Am I the Bad Guy for Wanting a Revolution?

c0rv3n

Padawan Learner
Hello, my beautiful friends.

So, I need some help wrapping my head around something. Yeah, I've read the Wave series, and I'm almost done with the Amazing Grace book—well, the e-book, anyway. But I think I'm still a little confused about how this whole density thing really works.

The other day, I was deep in thought about the control system. You know, how the elites and dark forces are just crushing us more every day with all the violence, that tariff nonsense, the whole China/Russia/US drama, and how they silence anyone with the balls to speak out against their narrative.

I was talking to my brother and a friend about it all, and I straight-up asked them: "Would you ever want to see more attacks, but only targeting the politicians?" Because they seem to think they're untouchable. Look, I know I was or am upset, maybe that was my inner rage talking. I told them I think this is just how the 3rd density is designed. I don't think it's gonna change, and maybe that's the point. Maybe we need a revolution, just so these assholes back off and remember that we, the people, aren't going down without a fight.

Well, that backfired. Haaahhhh! They told me I was completely wrong. That I should just turn to the the way and focus on something else, stop giving my energy to it. But isn't that just... wrong? Isn't that just pretending and sweeping it under the rug? Like wishful thinking? am I getting it wrong?

Sometimes I feel like we should just grab a sword and... BOOM! Like in a hack-and-slash game. I know, I know, some of you are already saying, "This isn't a game, this is life! Are you nuts?" Hear me out or read me, don't judge me yet! It's not like I'm gonna grab my katana and go on a rampage, I can't do that. But I just can't believe we're millions, up against a few who think they can do whatever they want with us. That's not fair, right?

Am I just supposed to turn away and think about rainbows, unicorns, and how beautiful ladybugs are? Is that really it? I know these dark forces are doing a terrific job distracting us from our true path—whatever that is for you. But aren't we supposed to do something, other than just think happy thoughts about the planet? I mean, yeah, Earth has amazing places, but isn't focusing only on that just ignoring the problem? Making it worse?

Like I said, I need help. Maybe I'm being dragged to the dark side, but I just don't see a way out of this. All I see are more people in a "sleep state"—like rocks in a river, stagnant, not moving. They just want to have fun, get drunk, and stare at their phones. It feels like there's no help coming, and I seriously doubt some hairy dude and his friends are gonna ride in to save us. I think we are our own help. If that makes any sense.

Please don't hate me. I'm just a guy who thinks none of this makes any fucking sense. Maybe I just woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. I'm not a bad guy—I've helped people using the gifts God or the Creator gave me. I'm not wasting them. It's just... all of this is too damn much.

Thanks for reading my nonsense, LOL. All comments and suggestions are more than welcome.
 
Have you read this thread? It might offer some insight.
 
Please don't hate me. I'm just a guy who thinks none of this makes any fucking sense. Maybe I just woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. I'm not a bad guy—I've helped people using the gifts God or the Creator gave me. I'm not wasting them. It's just... all of this is too damn much.
You are getting stuck in 3rd density thinking. It’s all okay, no one will hate you. I remember feeling the same, as I continued to learn and apply knowledge the picture of what is occurring on this earth started to develop in my mind. Keep reading you will gain more insight as you learn. Everything is lessons, we reside in a school for our souls which are and subject to accelerated learning. We experience trauma until we learn to See and apply knowledge. So your task is to read, network and learn, everyone here is engaging in that process.
 
I wanna give two working concepts to keep in mind:

1) History cycles.
there are periods of prosperity and periods of unrest. Literature like Collingwood's "Idea of History" describe it as a spiral rather than cycles. Is not identical repetitions repetition per see, but progressive cycles , possibly as part of a larger cycle.

(Are we as individuals , spiritually speaking, trying to ACTIVELY learn HOW it all cycles or spirals and navigate or "ride the wave" , OR are we being swept by, and dragged by the tides)

2) Another concept i keep in mind is balance / imbalance.

We are in a period of imbalance as far as we can see, and revolution (recycle) , in my opinion, is inevitable. It is just a fact. It will happen and it is happening.

Things are not sustainable at a personal local or global level in the trajectory it is going. Say 10 years down the line without some sort of dramatic change for billions of people.

If we cannot fix it then the universe always balance itself out one way or another. (Which side of the fence are we sitting on when all is said and done?)




As far as wanting a revolution, it is a normal reaction, and the more one is online seeing all sorts of negativity the more people are inclined to seek other solutions, so i think i healthy amount of clarity is necessary when looking at the news.

Something else is, how you picture this revolution?
Are you picturing an armed domestic conflict type of scenario?
And to what extend?
will it fix the problems that you perceive?
who is fighting who?
And what else can be done at an individual level?
Are we even ready for slaughter?
What lessons from other revolutions can we look at for understanding and guidance?
Because this is not the first time govenrments and elites and kings go psychotic on their peoples..


I will tell you my personal view, of this "re-balancing" or "re-volution" (evolving or devolving spiral)
Chaos on every level INCLUDING of a hyperdimensional nature. And the C's have mentioned work on the self, and aquiring knowledge. FRV or Frequency resonance vibration (review that FRV concept, as the C's have made emphasis on it)

Can't really tell you what to think, if its right or wrong, my opinion is it is bound to happen, but those are questions and concepts that help me ground certain perspectives and have a clearer view when disoriented by the chaos.
 
I think your reaction is pretty ‘normal’ when you have to watch the psychos running rampant in the world … I have had at times similar thoughts. Just yesterday I had a quick browse through the Intervision song contest that happened in Moscow a few days ago, and it made me sad thinking that the world could be such a beautiful place to live, where differences are not cause for anger and aggression, but are celebrated, without giving up one’s own identity.

So - what does prevent me from going down that road? There are many factors, such as:

1. Revolutions usually don’t change anything substantially. They usually start with genuine aggravations of the population (eg French Revolution), but get quickly hijacked by pathologicals that vector the ‘grass-root’ movement to their ends - usually power and money (the Jacobins). So the only thing that is achieved is to exchange one set of elites with another, while for the common man nothing changes. Political Ponerology by Andrew Lobaczewski describes the mechanics of this process. in detail.

2. A corollary of the above is that once the mob is unleashed (madness of crowds), it’s basically a free-for-all, where very quickly people forget what they initially where fighting for, as one faction wages war on another faction. A (temporary) breakdown of civilisation is the result and carnage of unimaginable proportions ensues.

3. There is also a karmic aspect - while I think that taking the life of a fellow human being might be acceptable under certain circumstances (self-defense), I don’t think that killing political leaders fits that bill. And generally violence begets more violence (see above). And maybe to live in such times as ours is kind of a test - to see whether or not you can keep human in an inhuman world; be firm in your beliefs without foisting them onto others; to realise that after all, everything is a lesson; and that the body is not the important part of yourself, but your soul.

At the end of the day, sustainable change can only come via change in oneself - changing oneself is the hardest thing to do in life, while it is relatively easy to tell others how THEY need to change. And once you change, you will influence those around you, as you are leading by example. And that may well take more than one lifetime.

This harks back to the C’s “Knowledge protects!” - my suspicion is that the protection that knowledge confers is way more than simply increased awareness in hot situations and the ability to extricate yourself from strife. There must be another layer of protection that is conferred by knowledge, however that is achieved (I have no idea how).

That doesn’t mean that we need to take everything dished up by the elites without a fight - but the fight needs to be subtle: Be wise as serpents, and innocent as doves. This reminds me of Carlos Castaneda’s attributes of a warrior (from The Fire Within):

Don Juan said then that in the strategic inventories of warriors, self-importance figures as the activity that consumes the greatest amount of energy, hence, their effort to eradicate it.

“One of the first concerns of warriors is to free that energy in order to face the unknown with it,” don Juan went on. “The action of rechanneling that energy is impeccability.”

He said that the most effective strategy was worked out by the seers of the Conquest, the unquestionable masters of stalking. It consists of six elements that interplay with one another.

Five of them are called the attributes of warriorship: control, discipline, forbearance, timing, and will. They pertain to the world of the warrior who is fighting to lose self-importance. The sixth element, which is perhaps the most important of all, pertains to the outside world and is called the petty tyrant.

He looked at me as if silently asking me whether or not I had understood.

“I’m really mystified,” I said. “You keep on saying that la Gorda is the petty tyrant of my life. Just what is a petty tyrant?”

“A petty tyrant is a tormentor,” he replied. “Someone who either holds the power of life and death over warriors or simply annoys them to distraction.”
Don Juan had a beaming smile as he spoke to me. He said that the new seers developed their own classification of petty tyrants; although the concept is one of their most serious and important findings, the new seers had a sense of humor about it. He assured me that there was a tinge of malicious humor in every one of their classifications, because humor was the only means of counteracting the compulsion of human awareness to take inventories and to make cumbersome classifications.
The new seers, in accordance with their practice, saw fit to head their classification with the primal source of energy, the one and only ruler in the universe, and they called it simply the tyrant. The rest of the despots and authoritarians were found to be, naturally, infinitely below the category of tyrant. Compared to the source of everything, the most fearsome, tyrannical men are buffoons; consequently, they were classified as petty tyrants, pinches tiranos.

So self-importance is at the centre of this thinking - I am so important that I know what is good for the world, who deserves to live and who deserves to die. I am the ultimate judge and jury. Control, discipline, forbearance, timing and will are all attributes in service of shedding our self-importance.

On the topic of dealing with a petty tyrant Castaneda has the following to say:

He explained that one of the greatest accomplishments of the seers of the Conquest was a construct he called the three-phase progression. By understanding the nature of man, they were able to reach the incontestable conclusion that if seers can hold their own in facing petty tyrants, they can certainly face the unknown with impunity, and then they can even stand the presence of the unknowable.
“The average man’s reaction is to think that the order of that statement should be reversed,” he went on. “A seer who can hold his own in the face of the unknown can certainly face petty tyrants. But that’s not so. What destroyed the superb seers of ancient times was that assumption. We know better now. We know that nothing can temper the spirit of a warrior as much as the challenge of dealing with impossible people in positions of power. Only under those conditions can warriors acquire the sobriety and serenity to stand the pressure of the unknowable.”

And that’s what we are facing - petty tyrants wherever we look. The fight after all is within and through us …
 
Am I just supposed to turn away and think about rainbows, unicorns, and how beautiful ladybugs are? Is that really it? I know these dark forces are doing a terrific job distracting us from our true path—whatever that is for you. But aren't we supposed to do something, other than just think happy thoughts about the planet? I mean, yeah, Earth has amazing places, but isn't focusing only on that just ignoring the problem? Making it worse?

That's exactly how it works, in a way. It's one big stupid system, and if people actually knew how stupid it actually is, then their souls would get smashed.

But civilization's problems are the things it has given itself. Why would you want to help "save" something that isn't yours in the first place, and is always mathematically doomed to fail? Just use your effort to survive and thrive with as little reliance on the system as possible, and raise your kids in ways that they want to explore and you know to be true. That's it.

Let your current bunch of super successful, professional, slum-lord, ga-gillionaire psychos tear each others throats out, don't get enlisted into their fights, ignore the calls to arms from the next bunch who come in, and be ready to beat-up those who criminally trespass on your residence that seek to harm you. It's all you can do, and in truth it's what you must do. Otherwise the whole cycle will just start anew, books will be burned, kids will get brainwashed, and no one will know any better.

It's why the C's recommendations on STO candidature are simple, and rather sparse. They point you in the way, that gets you to a higher vantage point, such that you can see the error in every-"thing" that is by systemic-definition 3D STS.
 
Have you read this thread? It might offer some insight.
Oh I thought I was the only one feeling like this, well I guess I could just pray and have faith that the universe will somehow arrange things, or not, again, saying this sure feels like wishful thinking. I need to spend more time pondering about this.

Thanks for your reply @unkl brws ;-D
 
You are getting stuck in 3rd density thinking. It’s all okay, no one will hate you. I remember feeling the same, as I continued to learn and apply knowledge the picture of what is occurring on this earth started to develop in my mind. Keep reading you will gain more insight as you learn. Everything is lessons, we reside in a school for our souls which are and subject to accelerated learning. We experience trauma until we learn to See and apply knowledge. So your task is to read, network and learn, everyone here is engaging in that process.
Yeah I know all there is is lessons but I just feel like I'm not doing something meaningful, should I just hug a tree and meditate? I read that hugging a tree is great, I don't know, I thought I had the hang of it, I was wrong heheheheheh :-/
Thanks!!
 
I don’t think there is anything wrong with realizing the true nature of reality and wanting change. But, the PTB and negative forces also desire change to establish greater control some of which intend this via revolutions of a sort.
(Andromeda) Were the protests in Egypt orchestrated by the US and Israel?

A: No, but once started they certainly put their team in position. Global revolution is desired by them exactly as Reed described.

(Perceval) In urban centers in the US, there are a lot of people who are just completely dependent on supermarkets and the system in general from one day to the next.

A: Notice that the USA is exhibiting all the symptoms of a "Color Revolution".

Q: (Perceval) So, someone in a position of power somewhere in the US is planning to sort of stage-manage the social unrest or revolution after an economic collapse?

A: More or less. However all may not go as planned.

Q: (Perceval) Well, the whole Ferguson, Missouri shooting last year...

A: Outside influences may intervene.

Q: (L) What do you mean "outside"?

A: Cosmic.

Chairman Mao Tse-Tung "Introducing a Co-operative" (April 15, 1958).
“Apart from their other characteristics, the outstanding thing about China 's 600 million people is that they are "poor and blank". This may seem a bad thing, but in reality it is a good thing. Poverty gives rise to the desire for change, the desire for action and the desire for revolution. On a blank sheet of paper free from any mark, the freshest and most beautiful characters can be written, the freshest and most beautiful pictures can be painted.”
This seems to be the form of revolution desired by the PTB an opportunity to write the slate clean and start again reshaping the world as they desire. Consider also Mao’s comments about the value of poverty for encouraging revolutionary actions and the inevitable economic collapse looming over the global economic system.

Ultimately the battle is though us and choosing to align with truth and objective reality. When the time for change comes STS forces as they always have will seek to exploit it for their own gain, sacrificing a few pawns for the chance to adjust the control system and continue as before. Without development and understanding of STS dynamics and manipulation such as the nature and role of psychopathy people risk being dragged along with the next system of control until it too wears out its usefulness and time comes for it to be replaced.
As the sessions suggest all may not go according to plan for these forces limited by wishful thinking. So it may be more helpful to not get to caught up in the idea of revolution or too emotionally invested when eventually it occurs for as with most things these days it will likely be very chaotic with lots of room for 4d STS to try and foster hatred between groups of people.
 
I wanna give two working concepts to keep in mind:

1) History cycles.
there are periods of prosperity and periods of unrest. Literature like Collingwood's "Idea of History" describe it as a spiral rather than cycles. Is not identical repetitions repetition per see, but progressive cycles , possibly as part of a larger cycle.

(Are we as individuals , spiritually speaking, trying to ACTIVELY learn HOW it all cycles or spirals and navigate or "ride the wave" , OR are we being swept by, and dragged by the tides)

2) Another concept i keep in mind is balance / imbalance.

We are in a period of imbalance as far as we can see, and revolution (recycle) , in my opinion, is inevitable. It is just a fact. It will happen and it is happening.

Things are not sustainable at a personal local or global level in the trajectory it is going. Say 10 years down the line without some sort of dramatic change for billions of people.

If we cannot fix it then the universe always balance itself out one way or another. (Which side of the fence are we sitting on when all is said and done?)




As far as wanting a revolution, it is a normal reaction, and the more one is online seeing all sorts of negativity the more people are inclined to seek other solutions, so i think i healthy amount of clarity is necessary when looking at the news.

Something else is, how you picture this revolution?
Are you picturing an armed domestic conflict type of scenario?
And to what extend?
will it fix the problems that you perceive?
who is fighting who?
And what else can be done at an individual level?
Are we even ready for slaughter?
What lessons from other revolutions can we look at for understanding and guidance?
Because this is not the first time govenrments and elites and kings go psychotic on their peoples..


I will tell you my personal view, of this "re-balancing" or "re-volution" (evolving or devolving spiral)
Chaos on every level INCLUDING of a hyperdimensional nature. And the C's have mentioned work on the self, and aquiring knowledge. FRV or Frequency resonance vibration (review that FRV concept, as the C's have made emphasis on it)

Can't really tell you what to think, if its right or wrong, my opinion is it is bound to happen, but those are questions and concepts that help me ground certain perspectives and have a clearer view when disoriented by the chaos.
I get the cycle/balance/imbalance stuff but I'm not sure if the universe will do something, I can only hope, right?
The way I picture the revolution is not by killing innocent people. No, I would -and maybe this will sound crazy but what the hell -put all the world "leaders" inside a cage and make them fight, a bare knuckle fight, no weapons, if they are still standing, then I would open a discussion session and ask them to open their eyes and see how their greediness and lust for power has taken a toll on all of us, make them see this is the only planet we got, all this energy lust is just bananas, we don't own anything, nothing is ours, I would ask them what is the point of trying to amass large quantities of money/resources and why? You bastards are not taking anything with you, when you die you die, that's it!!!

At individual level, not sure what I can do, I just think that turning to the other way and think about how beautiful the stars are...that is just wrong, or maybe not, I don't know how to respond to that.
Regarding the lessons from other revolutions, I'd say the power of the people when we unite for a good cause, I know there has been a lot of collateral damage, I know, however, when we unite we can achieve pretty good things, right?

I'm sorry, I'm just disappointed-sad, maybe what I'm saying does not make any sense to you, it's just how I feel, thank you very much for replying, I will sit down and think about your questions carefully.
 
Am I just supposed to turn away and think about rainbows, unicorns, and how beautiful ladybugs are? Is that really it? I know these dark forces are doing a terrific job distracting us from our true path—whatever that is for you. But aren't we supposed to do something, other than just think happy thoughts about the planet? I mean, yeah, Earth has amazing places, but isn't focusing only on that just ignoring the problem? Making it worse?

Yeah I know all there is is lessons but I just feel like I'm not doing something meaningful, should I just hug a tree and meditate?

What you're supposed to do (if you want) is pay attention to all the stuff that is happening, learn from it, BUT not become identified with any particular outcome. See it all as a cosmic drama with all playing their respective parts. There WILL be an outcome, but you have to wait and see what it is. More to the point, the nature of the outcome (or at least your perspective of it) may depend on the extent to which, and how well you do the watching, learning and not becoming identified part.

At least that's the theory, and it works for me, so far.
 
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You aren't alone in that, c0rv3n This thread is a great read: Wierdly excited about the Apocalypse much?
Sweet mother of all that is good and pure!!!!! :jawdrop:
I mean, that blew my mind but I don't feel good with the possibility of living in an apocalyptic world, I just want peace but like I said, this density is the way it is for a reason and I guess all kinds of emotions like post apocalyptic-driven-emotion-I-feel-good thingy has been implanted in our brains by the bad dudes, right?
Thanks for the reply, really interesting post actually.
 
What you're supposed to do (if you want) is pay attention to all the stuff that is happening, learn from it, BUT not become identified with any particular outcome. See it all as a cosmic drama with all playing their respective parts. There WILL be an outcome, but you have to wait and see what it is. More to the point, the nature of the outcome (or at least your perspective of it) may depend on the extent to which, and how well you do the watching, learning and not becoming identified part.

At least that's the theory, and it works for me, so far.
Thanks @Joe I think I became identified with all the bad s***t happening in the world, need to stop doing that, I just need to figure out how. This reminds me of Seneca, he said pain is temporary but suffering is a choice, meaning, we spend so much time worried about bad things, hence choosing suffering, oh crap, this is hard.
 
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