Am I the Bad Guy for Wanting a Revolution?

[c0rv3n]

That's exactly how it works, in a way. It's one big stupid system, and if people actually knew how stupid it actually is, then their souls would get smashed.

But civilization's problems are the things it has given itself. Why would you want to help "save" something that isn't yours in the first place, and is always mathematically doomed to fail? Just use your effort to survive and thrive with as little reliance on the system as possible, and raise your kids in ways that they want to explore and you know to be true. That's it.

Let your current bunch of super successful, professional, slum-lord, ga-gillionaire psychos tear each others throats out, don't get enlisted into their fights, ignore the calls to arms from the next bunch who come in, and be ready to beat-up those who criminally trespass on your residence that seek to harm you. It's all you can do, and in truth it's what you must do. Otherwise the whole cycle will just start anew, books will be burned, kids will get brainwashed, and no one will know any better.

It's why the C's recommendations on STO candidature are simple, and rather sparse. They point you in the way, that gets you to a higher vantage point, such that you can see the error in every-"thing" that is by systemic-definition 3D STS.

I get that, I see all the errors and the BS. I wish I could do more to help, but I know I can't. The frustration is real. And I guess... this is where you let go.

 

[Joe]

Thanks @Joe I think I became identified with all the bad s***t happening in the world, need to stop doing that, I just need to figure out how. This reminds me of Seneca, he said pain is temporary but suffering is a choice, meaning, we spend so much time worried about bad things, hence choosing suffering, oh crap, this is hard.

Yeah, it's not easy. One thing that helps, I think, is to get to the point where you realize that the particular outcome - the time-frame and the way it happens - that you are hoping for is probably not gonna happen. Then you realize that the reason you are getting increasingly angry or depressed or both, is because the outcome you are hoping for is based on too limited an understanding of the whole shebang.

Luckily, we don't have to go searching for that new understanding, at least not here, because we've already been given one that seems to fit pretty well.

It's not easy to reframe it and make it stick, it requires changing our beliefs about what is 'moral' and 'right', but that can be done with that broader and more 'cosmic' perspective. OSIT. Maybe it's like something that "Don Juan" said to Castaneda about the 'Seers' of old facing the "infinite with impunity" (or words to that effect).

 

[Ben]

No, I would -and maybe this will sound crazy but what the hell -put all the world "leaders" inside a cage and make them fight, a bare knuckle fight, no weapons, if they are still standing, then I would open a discussion session and ask them to open their eyes and see how their greediness and lust for power has taken a toll on all of us, make them see this is the only planet we got, all this energy lust is just bananas, we don't own anything, nothing is ours, I would ask them what is the point of trying to amass large quantities of money/resources and why? You bastards are not taking anything with you, when you die you die, that's it!!!

Might as well ask a crocodile to show more empathy towards their prey. Those people do what is in their nature to do. They also play an important role, even though we rightly detest them from our level. I'm not sure how much you know about psychopathy and political ponerology. It gives a sobering but essential perspective on this kind of thing. As Lobaczewski put it:

"Germs are not aware that they will be burned alive or buried deep in the ground along with the human body whose death they are causing." - Political Ponerology; p199

 

[c0rv3n]

Might as well ask a crocodile to show more empathy towards their prey. Those people do what is in their nature to do. They also play an important role, even though we rightly detest them from our level. I'm not sure how much you know about psychopathy and political ponerology. It gives a sobering but essential perspective on this kind of thing. As Lobaczewski put it:

Well I don't know much about it, a psychopath is a human predator, they see social bonds and morality as a system to be manipulated for their own gain, amusement, or sense of power, something like that, maybe that's not accurate but I see your point.
I do not know anything about political ponerology but I'll investigate about it, sounds intriguing, I guess there's a connection between these two and the current situation or something. Thanks!