April Drop Dead Date

I think this quote by G is worth keeping in mind.

There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the
beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose
their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and
millenniums of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with
geological cataclysms, climatic changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary
character, releasea very great quantity of the matter of knowledge. This, in its turn,
necessitates the work of collecting this matter of knowledge which would otherwise
be lost. Thus the work of collecting scattered matter of knowledge frequently
coincides with the beginning of the destruction and fall of cultures and civilizations.
 
Anthony said:
I think this quote by G is worth keeping in mind.

There are periods in the life of humanity, which generally coincide with the
beginning of the fall of cultures and civilizations, when the masses irretrievably lose
their reason and begin to destroy everything that has been created by centuries and
millenniums of culture. Such periods of mass madness, often coinciding with
geological cataclysms, climatic changes, and similar phenomena of a planetary
character, releasea very great quantity of the matter of knowledge. This, in its turn,
necessitates the work of collecting this matter of knowledge which would otherwise
be lost. Thus the work of collecting scattered matter of knowledge frequently
coincides with the beginning of the destruction and fall of cultures and civilizations.

Indeed. And since I suspect that Gurdjieff was exposed to a surviving Stoic school, I think that perhaps this was part of the knowledge handed down in that philosophical line.
 
Laura said:
The whole situation that we find ourselves in today makes me think over and over again of that October session in 1994 when the Cs predicted all of it though we had absolutely no way of conceptualizing how we could get from there to here. It took 20 years - well, actually it kicked off on 9-11-2001, so it's actually been only 12 years in the active process. But damn! Who else was predicting this sort of thing? That what was covert would become overt?

16 Oct 1994 said:
Q: (L) What is the meaning of the number 666 in the book of
Revelation?
A: Visa.
Q: (L) You mean as in credit card?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are credit cards the work of what 666 represents?
A: Yes?
Q: (L) Should we get rid of all credit cards?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) Would it be more to our advantage than not to
disconnect ourselves from the credit system?
A: Isn't just credit also debit.
Q: (L) Is that an affirmative.
A: How are you going to do this?
Q: (L) Well, do you have any suggestions?
A: World will soon have nothing but credit and debit have you
not heard of this new visa debit cards this is the future
of money as controlled by the world banking system i.e.
the brotherhood i.e. Lizards i.e. antichrist.

Q: (L) If I don't have a credit card then I don't have to
belong to this system?
A: No. You will have no choices: belong or starve.
Q: (L) What happened to free will?
A: Brotherhood aka Lizards aka antichrist has interfered with
free will for 309000 years. They are getting desperate as
we near the change.

Q: (V) It has always been my nature to rebel against that
which I did not feel was good for me. Is rebellion
against this system possible?
A: If you are willing to leave the body.
Q: (L) Leave the body as in death, croak, kick the bucket?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) If we were to move...
A: Changes will follow turmoil be patient.
Q: (L) We would like to move into the country. Will it be
possible to get along without this credit/debit card
leading that kind of life?
A: No.
Q: (L) Are they going to have the kind of capability of
controlling everything and everybody no matter where they
are?

A: Yes.
Q: (L) Even if we moved to Guyana and built a log hut in the
rain forest and didn't bother anybody, we'd still get
sucked into this thing?
A: Laura you will feel the effect of the Lizard beings
desperate push for total control no matter where you go.

Q: (L) That is inexpressibly depressing. Do you understand?
A: Why? Change will follow.
Q: (L) Will it follow soon?
A: You are slipping a bit. Refer to Literature "Bringers of
the Dawn". Challenge will be ecstasy if viewed with proper
perspective which is not, we repeat: not of third level
reality, understand?
Q: (L) In the reference cited, Joan of Arc is described as
feeling ecstatic while burning at the stake. Is that what
you mean?
A: Sort of, but you need not burn at the stake.
Q: (L) That's small comfort. There's other ways to die.
A: We are not speaking of death, Laura.
{...}
Q: (L) What do you mean "Challenge will be ecstasy"? What
sort of challenge?
A: Living through the turmoil ahead.
Q: (L) Several books I have read have advised moving to rural
areas and forming groups and storing food etc...
A: Disinformation. Get rid of this once and for all. That
is 3rd level garbage.
Q: (L) We feel pretty helpless at the mercy of beings who can
come in and feed off of us at will. Do we have someone on
our side, pulling for our team, throwing us energy or
something?
A: Who do you think you have been communicating with?
Q: (L) Are you going to be able to assist us through this
turmoil?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are you going to?
A: Up to you.
Q: (L) If we call, can we get your assistance?
A: All you have to do is ask.
Q: (L) Will we go through any periods when we may be cut off
from help?
A: You are never ever cut off.
Q: (L) Oh, I don't want to suffer!
A: You need not suffer. Stop thinking 3rd level.
Q: (L) I don't want anybody I love to suffer either. I don't
want any pain. I've suffered enough!
A: You are stuck at 3rd level tonight.
Q: (L) It's not just that. There is so much disinformation
you just don't know who to believe... I mean, how do we
know we can believe you? There are so many sources out
there deceiving and they do it so cleverly. Look at the
Bible... for 2,000 years people have been believing
that...
A: They deceive when you allow it.
Q: (L) I know you are supposed to take some things on
faith... but, do you see my problem here?
A: Yes, but you don't.
Q: (L) What is my problem?
A: Mental block.
Q: (L) In the recent past you indicated that chapter 24 of
Matthew and chapter 21 of Luke, were given by Jesus after
his extended sleep state. Now, both of those chapters
refer to the present time as being like the days of Noah.
Is that a correct assessment?
A: In a sense and individual events are as yet undetermined.
Q: (L) Well, the story of Noah tells us that Noah was told to
build an ark.
A: Symbolic.
Q: (L) Yet Noah built an ark. Was it true that certain
individuals, whoever they were, built boats or did things
to survive that terrible cataclysm?
A: No. Look at it this way. Noah built a boat because it
seemed like an enjoyable enterprise and when the flood
came it came in handy, see?

Q: (L) So, you are saying that if we do what we do because we
enjoy it that we will be in the right place at the right
time, doing the right thing when whatever happens happens,
right?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Are you saying that we will be led to do what we
should be doing and be where we should be?
A: You will just fall into it but if you force things you run
the risk of going astray.
{...}
Q: (L) Let's go back to the subject of the beast and the
number 666. You say that following the enforcement of
control by the Lizzies on the entire world that the change
is going to take place, is that correct?

A: Yes.
Q: (L) How long following?
A: Open.
Q: (L) Several prophetic works have said that this period is
going to last 6.3 or 7 years. Is that correct?
A: Open.
Q: (L) On the subject of the 666, I was given an insight into
this several years ago as to another meaning of it, is
that interpretation also correct?
A: Maybe. VI is 6 in Roman Numerals. S was 6 in ancient
Egypt. A was 6 in Sanskrit. VISA, see, is 666.
Interesting that to travel for extended periods one needs
a "visa" also, yes?
Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, "I
stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of
the sea with ten horns and seven heads. On his horns he
had ten royal crowns and blasphemous titles on his
heads..." What does this verse mean?
A: Many meanings. Monetary control. 10 represents
universal control of whole units of value.

Q: (L) So, the ten horns represent units of value, so we are
talking about money here. What are the blasphemous titles
on his heads?
A: In God we trust.
Q: (L) "And the beast that I saw resembled a leopard..."
A: New World Order.
Q: (L) "And to him the dragon gave his might and power and
great dominion..." Who is the dragon?
A: Read again please.
Q: (L) "And the beast I saw resembled a leopard..." What does
the leopard signify?
A: Leopard is fast moving and distinctly patterned.
Q: (L) "His feet were like those of a bear..." what do the
feet represent?
A: Russia.
Q: (L) Why are the feet like those of a bear?
A: Hidden power center in that geographic location.
Q: (L) What nature this power center?
A: Same as USA. Feet are not so easily seen.
Q: (L) Does this mean that Russia and the US are secretly
united?

A: Under same control.
Q: (L) Are these the Lizards?
A: At the root.
Q: (L) "His mouth was like that of a lion..." What does mouth
represent and why is it like a lions?
A: Noisy and boastful.
Q: (L) Who is noisy and boastful and how is this going to
manifest?

A: Economic power structure. Lion is powerful and commands
attention by roaring. Who has been speaking loudly about
a new world order?
Q: (L) The United States?
A: Close. Elements of same.

{This next part is yet to manifest itself UNLESS we think of "aliens" as psychopaths.}

Q: (L) "One of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound, but
his death stroke was healed and the whole earth went after
the beast in amazement and admiration..." What does it
mean that one of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound?
A: Aliens.
Q: (L) The aliens will seem to be a deadly wound to the
Beast?
A: Initially.
Q: (L) "But his death stroke was healed, and the whole earth
went after the Beast with amazement and admiration..."
What does this mean?
A: Initial fear gives way to worship and admiration.
Q: (L) "They fell down and gave homage to the dragon because
he had bestowed on the beast all of his dominion and
authority..." Who is this dragon?
A: World Body Politic.
Q: (L) And who is this Beast?
A: New World Order aka Brotherhood aka Lizzies aka
antichrist.
Q: (L) "The Beast was given the power of speech uttering
boastful and blasphemous words and was given freedom to
exert his authority and exercise his will during 42
months..."
A: Timing is open. Power of speech is self explanatory in
terms of audio and video media.
Q: (L) "And he opened his mouth to speak slanders against God
blaspheming his name and his abode even vilifying those
who live in heaven..." Does this mean that this group,
this beast are going to...
A: Disseminate disinformation with respect to encouraging
worship, loyalty and obedience to antichrist.

Q: (L) "He was further permitted to wage war on God's holy
people and to overcome them and power was given him to
extend his authority over every tribe and people and every
tongue and nation..." Does this means trials and
tribulations of those who refuse to submit?
A: No. See previous answer.
Q: (L) "And all the inhabitants of the earth will fall down
in admiration... everyone whose name has not been recorded
from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of
the Lamb that was slain in sacrifice from the foundation
of the world..." What are "those whose names are recorded
in the Book of Life... what is the Book of Life?
A: Supercomputer.
Q: (L) The Book of Life of the Lamb... everyone whose name
has not been recorded... it is saying that the people who
are going to worship the Beast are names that have not
been recorded... does that mean that there is a
supercomputer recording the names of those who do not
worship the beast?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And who has this supercomputer?
A: Beast. All names will be recorded as being either obedient
or disobedient.

Q: (L) Who is this "Lamb?"
A: Beast.
Q: (L) "If anyone is able to hear let him listen: whoever
leads into captivity will himself go into captivity; if
anyone slays with the sword, with the sword will he be
slain... herein is the call for the patience and fidelity
of the saints (God's people)... "Who are God's people?
A: All.
Q: (L) What does it mean: "Whoever leads into captivity will
go into captivity?"
A: Follow the leader.
Q: (L) If they follow the leader they will become captive and
if they fight with the leader they will be killed?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) "Then I saw another Beast rising up out of the land;
he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke like a
dragon..." What does this signify?
A: Other faces of the same entity.
Q: (L) What does it mean that he had two horns like a lamb?
A lamb doesn't have horns. Why does it say he has horns?
A: Confusion by contradiction.
Q: (L) And what does the lamb represent?
A: Same face of the Beast.
Q: (L) What does it mean he "spoke like a dragon"??
A: Same.
Q: (L) "He exerts all the power and right of control as the
former beast in his presence and causes the earth and
those who dwell upon it to exalt and deify the beast whose
deadly wound was healed and worship him..." Well, it seems
to say that there is a second beast that is different from
the first beast but you are saying that it is just another
face of the beast...
A: Yes. Look at it this way, aliens one face; God another;
government another et cetera.

Q: (L) Did you mean to say that God was another face of the
beast?
A: As represented by religion.
Q: (L) "He performs great signs, startling miracles, even
making fire fall from the sky to the earth in men's
sight.." What does that mean?
A: Aliens perform "miracles".
Q: (L) And what is the "image" of the Beast?
A: Aliens.

{I'm still thinking this refers to psychopaths in positions of power.}

Q: (L) What does it mean to have been wounded by the sword
and still live?
A: Perceived as scary then Godlike.

{This would certainly apply to psychopaths.}

Q: (L) "And he was permitted to impart the breath of life
into the Beast's image so that the statue of the beast
could actually talk and to cause all to be put to death
that would not bow down and worship the image of the
beast." What does this mean?
A: Total control once deception is complete.
Q: (L) "Compels all alike, both small and great, rich and
poor, free and slave, to be marked with an inscription on
their right hand or on their foreheads...." What is this
inscription?
A: Visa ID number.
Q: (L) Is this going to be actually physically put on our
bodies?
A: Encoded.
Q: (L) How? Is that what the aliens do when they abduct
people?
A: No.
Q: (L) How is it going to be done?
A: Stamped.
Q: (L) By what technical means?
A: Electronic encoding. A series of numbers.
Q: (L) Are they going to put these on our skins or imbed them
in the skin on our heads or hand...?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does that mean that you will have to place your hand
on an electronic scanner in order to conduct any type of
monetary transaction?
A: Precisely.
Q: (L) Okay, it says: "Here is room for discernment, a call
for the wisdom of interpretation, let him who has
intelligence, penetration, insight enough calculate the
number of the Beast, for it is a human number, the number
of a certain man, his number is 666. What does this mean?
A: Visa as explained previously. Everyone will get their own
number and it will be a Visa number, the number of the
Beast.
Q: (L) "Then I looked and Lo! the lamb stood on Mount Zion
and with him 144,000 men who had his name and his father's
name inscribed on their foreheads..." What does that mean?
A: ID. The Lamb is the Leadership council of the world bank.
Many will think they are taking the "mark" of God when
actually being marked by the Beast.

Q: (L) "And I heard a voice from Heaven like the sound of
great waters and like the rumbling of might thunder and
the voice I heard seemed like the music of harpists
accompanying themselves on their harps..." What is this
voice from heaven and the sound like great waters and
mighty thunder?
A: The return of Christ.

{Which probably refers to cometary bombardment.}


Q: (L) "And they sing a new song... No one could learn to
sing that song except the 144,000 who had been ransomed
from the earth... you said the 144,000 are the leaders of
the world bank and here it says they have been ransomed
from the earth at the coming of Christ... it says the
144,000 have not defiled themselves by relations with
women for they are pure as virgins. These are they who
follow the Lamb wherever he goes...they have been
ransomed..."
A: Symbolism added later and this is not entirely accurate
point. The symbols have been mixed. Tends to encourage
elitism and divisiveness.

Q: (L) Are the 144,000 good guys or bad guys as we would term
them?
A: Both. But they are ones who have supreme knowledge.
Q: (L) Are these human beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) There will be 144,000 people on the earth who have
supreme knowledge?
A: Approximately.
Q: (L) Now, this 144,000, are we among that number? Just
curious.
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) "No lie was found to be upon their lips for they are
blameless, spotless, untainted without blemish. And I saw
another angel flying in midair with an eternal gospel to
tell to the inhabitants of the earth, every race and tribe
and people, and he cried with a mighty voice: Revere God
and give him glory, for the hour of his judgment has
arrived, fall down before him, pay him homage and
adoration and worship him who created heaven and earth and
the sea and the springs of water..." What does this tell
us?
A: Added later by questionable source.
Q: (L) "Then a second angel followed declaring: Fallen,
fallen is Babylon the Great, she who made all nations
drink of the wine of her passionate unchastity..." Who is
Babylon and what does it mean she has fallen?
A: Same as previous answer.
Q: (L) "Another angel followed, a third, saying with a mighty
voice saying whoever pays homage to the beast and permits
his stamp to be put on his forehead or on his hand he too
shall have to drink of the wine of God's indignation and
wrath poured undiluted into the cup of his anger, and he
shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence
of the holy angels and in the presence of the lamb..."
A: Disinformation. Intended to create fear and resistance so
that the aliens can feed off of these emotions.

{Later response about the Mark of the Beast was that it applied to anyone who accepted torture as justifiable.}

Q: (L) "Again I looked and lo! I saw a white cloud and
sitting on the cloud one resembling a son of man with a
crown of gold on his head and a sharp scythe in his
hand..." Is that further additions?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) "Another angel came out of the temple saying with a
mighty voice to the one sitting on the cloud: put in your
scythe and reap for the hour has arrived to gather the
harvest for the earth's crop is fully ripened..."
A: More fear based disinformation.

{But it is not fear-based disinfo if it is really a description of cometary bombardment!}

Q: (L) Now, I have compared certain passages of Revelations
to the work of Immanuel Velikovsky, were those sections
accurate in what they describe?

A: Yes.
Q: (L) And those are events that will transpire after the
Lizzies have done their thing, after the Visa is in place,
and before or after Christ returns?
A: Before.
Q: (L) So the cluster of comets is going to come before the
return of Christ??

A: Yes. But return is just one event not the whole thing.

Q: (L) Is there going to be massive disruption on the planet
and maybe a lot of people transitioning out of the body
simultaneously because of the interaction of this cluster
of comets and the earth.
A: Close.
Q: (L) And, shortly following this event, Christ will return?
A: As part of the whole.
Q: (L) That is going to be part of the cluster of comets
activity?
A: After.
Q: (L) What is Christ going to do after he returns?
A: Teach.
Q: (L) How many people are going to be on the planet to
receive this teaching?
A: Open.
Q: (L) May we assume there will be six billion?
A: Assume as you please.
Q: (L) You keep saying that the return of Christ is a part of
the whole as though there is some important thing that I
am missing the question to discover. Consider that
question asked... tell me what it is I am missing, please.
A: Obvious if you have been paying attention.
Q: (L) And that is...?
A: The transition to 4th density.
Q: (L) Is the transition to 4th density going to happen
before the comets or after?
A: After.
Q: (L) Is the interaction of the comets and the planet earth
going to....
A: Precede the transition.
Q: (L) Is it going to generate this change in some way?
A: No.
Q: (L) It's not going to have anything to do with
electromagnetic interactions which would heighten the
atomic vibrations of the planet?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the comets are going to make a mess of things and
then the transition is going to come as Christ comes?
A: Before.
Q: (L) The transition will happen and we will all be standing
around glazed in the eyes or whatever, wondering what to
do with ourselves, because we are finding ourselves in a
new estate we have not been in before, and then Christ
comes?
A: More or less.
Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back
and everything is sort of straightening out and he is
teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be
gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
A: Technology.
Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media,
television and radio and so forth?
A: Some.
Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to
this transition, going to leave in large groups with the
Lizzies?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving
into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with
the Lizzies?
A: Close.
Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on
the planet and areas under the control of Christ?
A: Christ does not control.
Q: (L) Will the Lizzie people come out of their cities from
time to time and "molest" the followers of Christ from
time to time?
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) So, in other words, we will have a greatly reduced
population, people here and people there, none of whom are
totally united on the planet?
A: Goodnight.


So we have:

1) the push for total control, the VISA business, the Mark of the Beast,

2) and THEN cometary bombardment

3) followed by the transition to 4th density

4) of which a part is the "return of Christ" which could actually be a global state of mind.

So we seem to be in stage 1 moving into stage 2.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
16 October 1994 excerpt said:
Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back
and everything is sort of straightening out and he is
teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be
gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
A: Technology.
Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media,
television and radio and so forth?
A: Some.

Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to
this transition, going to leave in large groups with the
Lizzies?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving
into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with
the Lizzies?
A: Close.
Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on
the planet and areas under the control of Christ?
A: Christ does not control.
Q: (L) Will the Lizzie people come out of their cities from
time to time and "molest" the followers of Christ from
time to time?
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) So, in other words, we will have a greatly reduced
population, people here and people there, none of whom are
totally united on the planet?
A: Goodnight.

Yes, thanks Laura for the reminder about this particular session. Interesting that the book Revelation apparently comes from a lizzy or 4th density STS source and is full of half-truths and dis-info.

I thought the idea that we would still have access to media through technology even in 4th density was kind of fascinating, (I know I will not really understand much about 4th density unless I'm there). The C's have said that there is indeed a very physical aspect to 4th density. Cities or groups of both STS and STO living on the planet - wow. All manner of things to think about here.
 
I tried to find the page she is talking about in FB, but couldn't. So I don't know if this page exists at all. And regarding the rest of what this woman says.... :rolleyes:

The page on Facebook was removed, but she copied it onto her hard drive before it disappeared. And yes, she has that Heavy Christian vibe happening, but lots of people are like that now. I have only seen her material for a day, but it certain matters she has does some interesting research. Best to take her with a grain of salt. I ultimately think something like that is going to happen-either a false flag or the real intent of some nation-but politically it seems premature. You don't need missiles to do big damage which would lead to financial implosion, WWIII etc.

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Laura said:
16 Oct 1994 said:
Q: (L) What is Christ going to do after he returns?
A: Teach.
Q: (L) How many people are going to be on the planet to
receive this teaching?
A: Open.
Q: (L) May we assume there will be six billion?
A: Assume as you please.
Q: (L) You keep saying that the return of Christ is a part of
the whole as though there is some important thing that I
am missing the question to discover. Consider that
question asked... tell me what it is I am missing, please.
A: Obvious if you have been paying attention.
Q: (L) And that is...?
A: The transition to 4th density.
Q: (L) Is the transition to 4th density going to happen
before the comets or after?
A: After.
Q: (L) Is the interaction of the comets and the planet earth
going to....
A: Precede the transition.
Q: (L) Is it going to generate this change in some way?
A: No.
Q: (L) It's not going to have anything to do with
electromagnetic interactions which would heighten the
atomic vibrations of the planet?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the comets are going to make a mess of things and
then the transition is going to come as Christ comes?
A: Before.
Q: (L) The transition will happen and we will all be standing
around glazed in the eyes or whatever, wondering what to
do with ourselves, because we are finding ourselves in a
new estate we have not been in before, and then Christ
comes?
A: More or less.
Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back
and everything is sort of straightening out and he is
teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be
gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
A: Technology.
Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media,
television and radio and so forth?
A: Some.
Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to
this transition, going to leave in large groups with the
Lizzies?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving
into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with
the Lizzies?
A: Close.
Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on
the planet and areas under the control of Christ?
A: Christ does not control.
Q: (L) Will the Lizzie people come out of their cities from
time to time and "molest" the followers of Christ from
time to time?
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) So, in other words, we will have a greatly reduced
population, people here and people there, none of whom are
totally united on the planet?
A: Goodnight.

When I first read that part a while back I though it could be taken literally as I've been interested in AJ Miller's stuff for about the same time I first heard of the Cassiopaeans. He BTW claims he's Jesus. Most of his material is disseminated through youTube, which fits the above, so might be a hit for the C's only if he is Jesus of course. That I don't know. However I've found what he talks about highly valuable, so it's why I've kept listening and there's quite a few things that I feel don't steer so far from what's discussed here. Anyway I came across a clip recently with him responding to a Christian saying - if he was Jesus, he would return with the clouds which was stated in Revelations. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsS7eljJKWE I thought that's relevant to this quote, but overall I can't verify this, I just see the similarities that made me consider that this C's session has the potential of being seen as literal in that respect.
 
alkhemst said:
When I first read that part a while back I though it could be taken literally as I've been interested in AJ Miller's stuff for about the same time I first heard of the Cassiopaeans. He BTW claims he's Jesus. Most of his material is disseminated through youTube, which fits the above, so might be a hit for the C's only if he is Jesus of course. That I don't know. However I've found what he talks about highly valuable, so it's why I've kept listening and there's quite a few things that I feel don't steer so far from what's discussed here. Anyway I came across a clip recently with him responding to a Christian saying - if he was Jesus, he would return with the clouds which was stated in Revelations. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsS7eljJKWE I thought that's relevant to this quote, but overall I can't verify this, I just see the similarities that made me consider that this C's session has the potential of being seen as literal in that respect.

Why would you think that some random guy on the internet who claims that he is Jesus actually is Jesus? Did you read the Cs transcript that you quoted? It would be a hit if he wasn't (which he's not).

You're projecting your beliefs onto this transcript because you like this AJ Miller guru (apparently he's one of your preferred forms of hypnotism/disinformation), and so are subjectively interpreting and projecting your beliefs when the Cs said that Christ would teach with technology (which doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with the digital technology of today) and through the media (which doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with youtube or the "media" as we understand it today), while ignoring their timeline of the arrival of Christ (note that they don't even say Jesus, so "Christ" may be something entirely different from some guy named Jesus--and probably is) and that Laura had many assumptions at the time, so some discernment is needed with regards to the Cs answers.

Laura said:
16 Oct 1994 said:
Q: (L) What is Christ going to do after he returns?
A: Teach.
Q: (L) How many people are going to be on the planet to
receive this teaching?
A: Open.
Q: (L) May we assume there will be six billion?
A: Assume as you please.
Q: (L) You keep saying that the return of Christ is a part of
the whole as though there is some important thing that I
am missing the question to discover. Consider that
question asked... tell me what it is I am missing, please.
A: Obvious if you have been paying attention.
Q: (L) And that is...?
A: The transition to 4th density.
Q: (L) Is the transition to 4th density going to happen
before the comets or after?
A: After.

Q: (L) Is the interaction of the comets and the planet earth
going to....
A: Precede the transition.
Q: (L) Is it going to generate this change in some way?
A: No.
Q: (L) It's not going to have anything to do with
electromagnetic interactions which would heighten the
atomic vibrations of the planet?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the comets are going to make a mess of things and
then the transition is going to come as Christ comes?
A: Before.

Q: (L) The transition will happen and we will all be standing
around glazed in the eyes or whatever, wondering what to
do with ourselves, because we are finding ourselves in a
new estate we have not been in before, and then Christ
comes?
A: More or less.

Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back
and everything is sort of straightening out and he is
teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be
gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
A: Technology.
Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
A: Yes.

According to this timeline from the Cs, the order is: comets, 4D, Christ. Unless I missed the first two, this guy is not Christ (whoever or whatever that may be).

Furthermore, Matthew 24, which Laura brought up earlier, states:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24&version=NIV
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
...
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.

26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

It shouldn't really have to explicitly say "29 If there's a guy claiming to be Jesus on Youtube, he's full of it" to make it obvious that some random guy on youtube talking about spirit guides (yikes!) and claiming that he's Jesus is a total charlatan.

Have you read The Wave? It should go a long way in aiding one to detect charlatans and false "messiahs".
 
alkhemst said:
When I first read that part a while back I though it could be taken literally as I've been interested in AJ Miller's stuff for about the same time I first heard of the Cassiopaeans. He BTW claims he's Jesus. Most of his material is disseminated through youTube, which fits the above, so might be a hit for the C's only if he is Jesus of course. That I don't know. However I've found what he talks about highly valuable, so it's why I've kept listening and there's quite a few things that I feel don't steer so far from what's discussed here. Anyway I came across a clip recently with him responding to a Christian saying - if he was Jesus, he would return with the clouds which was stated in Revelations. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsS7eljJKWE I thought that's relevant to this quote, but overall I can't verify this, I just see the similarities that made me consider that this C's session has the potential of being seen as literal in that respect.

I don't know alkhemst, but have you not read through the feedback you recieved in this thread http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=26901.0 about AJ Miller?

I find it a bit troubling that you still follow this guy and think that there is anything of value there.

Disinformation is always mixed with truths, as you should know as a member of this forum, so if I were you, I would take a careful look at my thinking processes.
 
AJ Miller is Jesus?

Ah man, all this while I thought it was this guy:


Bean.jpg



Because of Da Vinci’s coded prophecy:


BeanLisa.JPG
 
I can understand its a crazy notion that Jesus would be reincarnated as an Aussie Queenslander, I mean as far as I know Jesus might never have existed in the first place. When I first heard about it from a friend who I know to be much more discerning, I went to expose the obvious fraud, but I couldn't fault the logic when I listened to what AJ was saying. Because of that I figured I'd try the type of personal work he was advocating, because if what he's saying didn't work - all the better for me, as what sane person would actually want to go down the path were they say they listen to a guy who claims he's a reincarnated Jesus on YouTube!

Anyway, I saw the value in the personal changes I was making in myself, I became much more real, my marriage was better, generally things all round got smoother. But it was very difficult too, confronting all the crap in me, one of which was (and still is to a lesser degree) self importance as has been picked up here as well.

So yeah, it's not this C's session or bible prophecies that I'm needing to justify what I find valuable in AJs stuff, I just found it interesting given my current position. That session as you say Foxx can be interpreted a number of ways and I can't claim to know what exactly the C's mean't.

Generally it would have been far easier to listen and practice some of AJ methods if he didn't claim to be Jesus, as for one its sounds crazy and I cant verify that claim, apart from evaluating his sanity and sincereness. It just happened that from my own investigations, truth be told (unfortunately at the time), I found him to be one of the most sane and sincere people I've heard in a long while.

Foxx, I missed a couple of chapters in the Wave series, most of it read. On the Matthew 24 verse, AJ talks to it specifically: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwwJMkxS0CI&sns=em From memory he was saying he agrees with the warning, and suggests how a person might go about investigating a person's claim of being Jesus.

Pashalis, I did consider the feedback on AJ, which was basically saying he's promoting a love and light / feel good type of thing, I just still disagree with that assessment.

Mr Bean is Jesus, you just never know...
 
Jerry said:
AJ Miller is Jesus?

Ah man, all this while I thought it was this guy:


Bean.jpg



Because of Da Vinci’s coded prophecy:


BeanLisa.JPG

:rotfl:

***

Thank you Laura for bringing up that transcript. It gives a lot to think about.

I also think of "Christ" more as a state of consciousness, though I guess we will wait and see...
 
Gold is being withdrawn.
JPM's eligible gold plunged from 402.4K ounces to just 141.6K ounces, a drop of 65% in 24 hours
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-25/jpmorgans-eligible-gold-plummets-65-24-hours-all-time-low

Which brings me back to this:
Session 13 October 2001
Laura said:
Q: (L) What did they want the gold for?
A: 4th density uses gold for technology.

It looks to me as if there is a last ditch attempt going on to corral gold for the use of the PTB.
Not good.

Apologies if I mangled the links :-[

mod: links fixed
 
Why did it the price drop? If we try to use "4th density uses gold for technology" to make sense
of it, then either they are hoping to get people to sell it before the price drops even more,
or is it because they gathered enough and are discouraging people from selling?
 
Hi Anthony,

The bullion banks don't seem to want to deliver. Germany is told to wait 7 years for the return of their gold. The Dutch ABM AMRO advised it's clients that they would not get their gold - instead to be paid out in dollars
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-24/another-gold-shortage-abn-halt-physical-gold-delivery & http://silverdoctors.com/dutch-bank-abn-amro-halts-physical-gold-delivery/

There is every chance the PTB dropped the gold price in paper to try to loosen the grip on the real metals & get people to sell.
The opposite reaction occurred when the public went after the lower cost physical. Why? I don't really know, but I guess that there are more people awakening & feeling out the truth of the matter despite what they are fed through MSM.
Also consider that the reaction of the supposed sheep is now like lightening compared to say, the speed of realisation that 9/11 had a few unanswered questions.
Maybe there is growth in the psyche worldwide. I hope so. :)
 

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