Are there people biologically suited for veganism and is that ideal for them?

[Ancient Eyes]

I love this video by JP Sears! So funny!
If Meat eaters were like Vegans

 

[avivalevy3]

I've been 99% vegan for over a year cannot digest animal protein very well now gives me stomach cramps, gas, also nightshade veggies cause more tremors. FWIW.

 

[BHelmet]

If only for the sake of not exploiting other life forms?

Last time I checked, veggies were still life forms suitable for exploitation.

 

[Fluffy]

Last time I checked, veggies were still life forms suitable for exploitation.

Exactly, behold the beauty of nature, feel it resurrect your energy and life force, allow yourself to sink into and become the oneness of all that is and then go cut up all the plants and eat them and listen to them scream…. It’s absolutely no different from the vegan perspective on eating animals…

 

[Magnolia]

I find the blood type diet to work. I am an A blood type

I also was interested in investigating blood types and eating habits about 20 years ago. I almost had to bribe my doctor to get my blood type (she said it was none of my business), but I made an adequate case to obtain that "private" information. I discovered I'm a type A. My husband is type 0. Apparently, according to research, my body has vegetarian preferences and my husband is a meat eater. In fact, the opposite is what we each prefer and how we survive. My husband's O blood is also supposed to attract mosquitoes and mosquitoes are supposed to be uninterested in me. Again, the opposite seems to hold true in experiential life. He walks through the woods unmolested, and I am eaten alive. So where does that leave me/us? Either Gonzalo Lira is right, and one needs to twist the "facts" 180 degrees to get to a semblance of truth, or there are exceptions to every rule, or the food guidance we get is somewhat bogus and we can just as easily flip a coin and 50% of the time we get one answer or the other. So many "guidelines" in life have left me skeptical, and even if one happens to hold true for me, I figure it will may very well be the reverse for someone else.

 

[Kay Kim]

I understand that some of vegetarians never eaten meat in their life. And some of groups promote vegetarian lifestyle and they look down meat eaters as savage.
But anyway I noticed that meat eaters looks strong, healthy and taller than vegetarians, haha.

(L) Next question on the list: Is the fukushima radiation negligible compared to the radiation due to 2,000 + nuclear explosions that have happened since 1945?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) How badly will it affect people?

A: Cumulatively, it is already bad.

Q: (L) you mean cumulatively the 2,000 nuclear explosions? And now, this on top of all of that is like critical mass of exposure?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, what does that mean for us.

A: DNA changes and diet help to keep the frequency stable.

Q: (L) What about all the people who are vegetarians?

A: They are nuclear “toast” since so much of their energy must be expended to raise the vibrations of their food

A: Most vegetarians are such, believing that it is more "spiritual". This is a belief that eating a certain way will change the nature or destiny or tendencies of the soul. This is as effective as confessing one's sins to a priest and doing penance and then sinning again. Besides, as you have noted, the vegetarians you have encountered have been singularly "unspiritual".

Q: (L) Okay, let me try to ask it this way: Is the fact that we eat meat detrimental to us spiritually?

A: Absolutely not.

Q: (L) But I would say that just the eating of meat is not a spiritual issue at all. (Perceval) Eating food is a thing of the body. (L) Yeah, I mean we just try to eat in an optimal way to give our bodies the right fuel so that we can do our other work. That's our whole thing is to give the body optimal fuel.

A: There is the difference, see? You eat for optimal fuel, they eat to support an illusion.

Q: (L) Well, they don't all eat to support an illusion. A lot of them think that vegetables are an optimal fuel illusion. (Perceval) But they couldn't think that if they really objectively read all the details.

A: They lack objective knowledge.

Q: (L) Okay then. (Perceval) I was saying that in the scheme of things, plants eat rocks, animals eat plants, and some eat other animals. But from a physical point of view in the hierarchy that humans would eat... (Burma Jones) If only seems that way if you understand densities, but in terms of what they think, physically we're just animals to them. (Perceval) But I wasn't talking about them, I was talking about in respect of our understanding...

A: Yes, you just hit upon an important point: The genetic body tends toward the animal nature. Note that we said "tends". In those of the "fanatical" vegetarian nature, this tendency is very strong. In fact, you could even say that there is strong identification with the genetic body and all it is connected to energetically.

Q: (L) So what do you mean, "strong identification with the genetic body and all it is connected to energetically"? Is that what I was thinking, that these fanatical vegetarians do not want to eat meat because for them, it's like eating their own kind? For them, eating a cow is like cannibalism because they identify with the animal kingdom so strongly that...?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, that would lead to the next part of what I was thinking last night, which is that some - and I'm not saying ALL - really fanatical vegetarians of the slavish authoritarian follower type personality could be, can you say the word for me there, Belibaste? (Belibaste) OP's. (L) Organic portals?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay. (Galaxia) So basically they're people with the essence of an animal?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) They identify with the energetic... (Galaxia) They look like people, but they're not.

A: Yes.

Q: (Galaxia) They don't eat cows because they have the essence of a cow!

A: Yes.

Q: (Ark) They care more about the cows than about other human beings.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) That means they have empathy for animals - that is, their own spiritual kind - and not for humans.

A: Yes.

“Q: (___) What about the diet I'm eating now: mostly fruits and vegetables and a little bit of meat?

A: More protein needed for amino acids of a natural and balanced type.

Q: (____) So that means the amino acid supplements I'm taking aren't good?

A: Stop and eat meat. Your type needs the highest level and quality of protein.

Q: (_____) But I don't like meat! (C) You used to! (J) You do like meat. (____) No I don't!

A: Many of your current ideas and preferences may not be "yours."

Q: (A****) We all kind of knew that...

A: Do not underestimate the opposition. -January 3rd 2009.”

 

[Nienna]

For me I find the blood type diet to work. I am an A blood type which I thrive on more fruits,vegetables, nuts and certain grains. Pork, beef, dairy and wheat all have negative effects for A's. No meat is in the beneficial category! But chicken, turkey and some seafood are neutral not having a detrimental or beneficially factor. So I feel best when I avoid the detrimental foods listed which includes certain grains, fruits and vegetables. I don't know how the diet was developed. I just know it works for me when I stick to it.

I tried that diet. I'm a type A. It didn't work so well for me. I have found that meat, mostly red meat, is what I tolerate best. I can eat a few veggies without too much problems, but they do cause me back pain and more congestion. However, I do better eating meat with some form of carbohydrate than I do without. But, simply eating carbs keeps me hungry and inflamed.

We are all different so it's no surprise that no one diet works the same way for everyone. And, there are some people, probably a very few, who can live okay being vegan or vegetarian. Some just think they can and don't pay attention to any signs that it's not good for them.

fwiw

 

[BHelmet]

There is probably an element of the authoritarian follower in all theses dietary regimens. It’s a fertile ground for the work. Do you feel a certain way after eating a certain food because of what you believe you should feel? Can you get in touch with your true bodily relation to different foods in an objective way? Etc.

 

[Magnolia]

I just know it works for me when I stick to it.

Our differing experiences with food preferences remind me of the old saying: “I say tom-A-to” You say “tom-AH-to,” “I say pot-A-to” “You say pot-AH-to.” I would surmise that if the word communicates (or in this case if our diets work), let’s let ourselves be; don’t fix it.

I just read Luc’s lovely essay Gnosis Puffeth Up and he sums it up nicely:

“The seeker of truth is always faced with the danger of deluding himself into thinking that he has figured it out, has discovered the secrets of the world and the cosmos, knows how it all works…….”Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know.”[ Corinthians 8:2] That's a good description of where I am coming from.

“Experience has taught me” to “swear by” certain naturopathic interventions that heal me when I am “ill.” I have offered them to my family. They might work in one of them, but others think they are panaceas or downright harmful. They use pharma Rx and medical interventions that I abhor, and they are ‘healthy as horses,’ stronger than I am. Go figure. I know a woman who has not seen a doctor in 40 years, drinks a fair amount, and eats rich food. She is also ‘strong as horse,’ and much happier than I am. She thinks any illness is based on invalid thoughts. If she feels unwell, she figures out the invalid thought she is entertaining, eradicates it, and is consequently healed. These things work for them. They haven’t always worked for me.

So I’ll add to the biblical references above. Job 38:2 states “Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?" Sometimes one can shed darkness. "If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!" [Matthew 6:23]. My individual experience may not be light but (hopefully) it is not darkness……simply someone else’s experience. My experiences and my response to them have led me down certain paths (some good, some bad, some indifferent) but it is just my experience and my thoughts about those experiences. And (to be honest) I would not wish my path on even my worst enemy.

Can something be gained by sharing individual experiences and information? Obviously yes, or this website would not continue. Are sharing individual experiences “the door” – by them any man may enter and be saved, go in and out, and find pasture? Obviously not, or several thousands of forum pages back we’d be melding on a path of complete harmony and angelic like-mindedness. I would guess sharing experiences is like a Rosetta stone – where one person’s information could shed light on another’s; or like a koan – which Wikipedia defines as a story, dialogue, question, or statement which is used in Zen practice to provoke the "great doubt."

 

[Ancient Eyes]

It comes down to body consciousness really. You have to learn to pay attention to what is happening in your body when you eat and how it is affecting you mentally and emotionally too. It takes time to figure out what is best for you. As I said for me the blood type diet is the closest thing to a perfect diet. I have found other diet information helpful too. I have a very sensitive digestive system. I detox and cleanse my body at least twice a year sometime more if I feel I need it. Discover for yourself what works best for you.

 

[thisplacerocks]

I also was interested in investigating blood types and eating habits about 20 years ago. I almost had to bribe my doctor to get my blood type (she said it was none of my business), but I made an adequate case to obtain that "private" information. I discovered I'm a type A. My husband is type 0. Apparently, according to research, my body has vegetarian preferences and my husband is a meat eater. In fact, the opposite is what we each prefer and how we survive. My husband's O blood is also supposed to attract mosquitoes and mosquitoes are supposed to be uninterested in me. Again, the opposite seems to hold true in experiential life. He walks through the woods unmolested, and I am eaten alive. So where does that leave me/us? Either Gonzalo Lira is right, and one needs to twist the "facts" 180 degrees to get to a semblance of truth, or there are exceptions to every rule, or the food guidance we get is somewhat bogus and we can just as easily flip a coin and 50% of the time we get one answer or the other. So many "guidelines" in life have left me skeptical, and even if one happens to hold true for me, I figure it will may very well be the reverse for someone else.

The fact that mosquitoes do not attack your husband as much ... a hint from nature on which is the better diet. Experiment yourself and see if other diets work on you.