Atlantis

[axj]

One thing that is interesting is that a lot of ancient structures around the world seem to be oriented towards a hypothetical former North Pole in the Hudson Bay instead of the current one.

This is basically the Earth crustal movement theory that, among other things, explains why Siberia was ice-free and even temperate during the Ice Age. The arctic circle around a Hudson Bay North Pole covers exactly the glaciated areas during the Ice Age (and Siberia would not have been in the arctic region).

There is also this guy (Rick Pyle) who is pretty much one of the most experienced astral traveleres (out of body experiences) on the planet. He has been doing it since childhood for 50 years. Recently he visited Atlantis for the first time (12 thousand years ago). To his surprise, the city with the concentric channels was situated in Northwestern Africa on the coast - suggesting that the Eye of the Sahara was indeed the location of their main city.

The question is how the Richat structure ended up so far away from the coast though. He also fast-forwarded to the moment of the destruction of the city and saw a wall of water (something like 50 meters tall) coming towards it and wiping it out. This could have been done only by a large impact in the ocean or by something like a sudden crustal shift.

 

[irjO]

One thing that is interesting is that a lot of ancient structures around the world seem to be oriented towards a hypothetical former North Pole in the Hudson Bay instead of the current one.

This is basically the Earth crustal movement theory that, among other things, explains why Siberia was ice-free and even temperate during the Ice Age. The arctic circle around a Hudson Bay North Pole covers exactly the glaciated areas during the Ice Age (and Siberia would not have been in the arctic region).

There is also this guy (Rick Pyle) who is pretty much one of the most experienced astral traveleres (out of body experiences) on the planet. He has been doing it since childhood for 50 years. Recently he visited Atlantis for the first time (12 thousand years ago). To his surprise, the city with the concentric channels was situated in Northwestern Africa on the coast - suggesting that the Eye of the Sahara was indeed the location of their main city.

The question is how the Richat structure ended up so far away from the coast though. He also fast-forwarded to the moment of the destruction of the city and saw a wall of water (something like 50 meters tall) coming towards it and wiping it out. This could have been done only by a large impact in the ocean or by something like a sudden crustal shift.

The Cs already answered that is natural formation, but even without the Cs answer, it’s already proven that is a scar, there is also a richat structure found in Mars, most likely they appeared when mars came close to the Earth in the moment that lead to the younger dryas, which would explain why the area was covered by water before.
As the Cs pointed out Atlantis was like a global confederation or civilization, there must have been multiple cities and perhaps the main capital or big city was the one everyone refers to, including Plato, most likely is underwater, since they found structures in the Atlantic Ocean near the azotes and also outside the Bahamas.

 

[axj]

The Cs already answered that is natural formation

This does not mean that they could not have used this natural formation for one of their main cities. Plus, C's answers are not the gospel and have a certain percentage of inaccuracies, as they pointed out themselves. We are supposed to do the research and confirm everything ourselves.

Personally, I have been also leaning towards the center of the late Atlantean civilization being somewhere in the Azores or possibly Bahamas area. But I intend to keep an open mind if new evidence suggests otherwise.

 

[irjO]

This does not mean that they could not have used this natural formation for one of their main cities. Plus, C's answers are not the gospel and have a certain percentage of inaccuracies, as they pointed out themselves. We are supposed to do the research and confirm everything ourselves.

They are not gospel but they answer match with the overall explanation of the natural origin of the area, also there are zero stone blocks in that area neither on the way to the ocean, so that disproves the theories of a tsunami draging the buildings back the ocean; and if the pyramids survived earthquakes and floods, same for the sphinx as well, there has to be at least the base of a city or building still up there, there are none, more to that: if you look the richest structure from space you will see that is an interruption of a line of mountains formation, which validates that is a crater/scar of a cataclysmic event in that area, sorry, the richat structure has zero indicatives of being created or used as a city.
The YouTuber Jimmy who came up with the theory already is fully criticized about it because a lot of researchers already proved the flaws of his theories and he is been blocking everyone who shows something against it, also other researches already are talking about his closed minded attitude about it.

 

[axj]

They are not gospel but they answer match with the overall explanation of the natural origin of the area, also there are zero stone blocks in that area neither on the way to the ocean, so that disproves the theories of a tsunami draging the buildings back the ocean

How can you say there is zero evidence for that when there has been basically no archaelogical exploration of this structure at all? Plus, the local people have been finding and collecting strange stone artefacts, which may be the remnants you are talking about.

And again, natural origin of the Richat structure does not mean that it could not have been used as a city.

and if the pyramids survived earthquakes and floods, same for the sphinx as well

This sounds like a lot of assumptions you are making. Whether the Giza pyramids and the sphinx went through the Younger Dryas catastrophe or were built after is not really established.

If the crustal shift theory is true, then the pyramids being aligned to the current north pole points towards them being built after the 'deluge' catastrophe - while many other ancient sites seem to be aligned to other north pole locations.

The YouTuber Jimmy who came up with the theory already is fully criticized about it because a lot of researchers already proved the flaws of his theories and he is been blocking everyone who shows something against it, also other researches already are talking about his closed minded attitude about it.

His behaviour does not prove or disprove the theory itself. And have you considered that you may have a relatively closed minded attitude on this topic as well, instead of staying open towards wherever the evidence may lead us?

 

[Cosmos]

UnchartedX has a new video on the Egyptian vases. It is quite amazing. They take some vases to professional metrologists, and the precision on these things is mindblowing - like, less than the width of a human hair. If you're interested in precision technology (these measuring instruments are amazing in and of themselves), or ancient high technology, check it out:

Thanks! I'll take a closer look, at some point in the future. In my work as a tool-and-die maker, we have to be able to measure and produce highly complex precision metal tools/parts (also sometimes other types of hard materials) that need to have a tolerance level of +- 0.000041 inch (+- 0.001 mm) in the end. In reality, though, in most cases, we usually have to create and measure at the tolerance level of +- 0.0004 inch (+- 0.01 mm). It is basically the most precise mechanical/engineering profession in the world. I'm quite familiar with all the tools the guys are using for measuring and producing (such as milling and lathe, with or without CNC). IMO, the way they set it up is prone to significant errors in the results. So, in reality, the tolerance level of the vases could be more precise, or less so. Normally, if you want to measure things like concentricity accurately, you need to do it differently. In the way they did it, it is a harder to center it correctly. But if you do it in another way, you might run the risk of damaging the vases. Maybe that's why they did it in the way they did? I don't know how precise the 3D scans are, that they have used, but if they are precise enough, you might be able to get a more reliable result with that method. The straight-edge Alex Dunn is using is quite precise, yes, but we mostly use something that is more precise, like this or that one.

Having said that, from my perspective, especially considering the material the vases are made of, it is hard if not impossible to imagine that they did the Vases as mainstream archeology claims. Yes, it almost seems like something like "CNC machining" was used, judging from our perspective now. But on the other hand, depending on how precise the vases actually really are, it might be possible to make such vases pretty precisely in that way, without the need for things like CNC. If you know how to do such things, you might be able to do it with more "simple" methods; partly by hand and without necessarily needing something like CNC and/or electricity.

 

[seek10]

1997-05-31

Q: The Atlanteans? Were the Celts of India at war with the Atlanteans in the Atlantic?

A: Atlantis was merely a home base of an advanced civilisation of 3 races of humans occupying different sections of a huge Island empire, which, in itself, underwent 3 incarnations over a 100,000 year period as you would measure it.

Q: The 3 races were the Celts... and who were the second and third?

A: Or Kantekkians.

Q: Are the Kantekkians different from the Celts?

A: Only in the sense of long term racial and genetic blending.

Q: So, Atlantis had the Kantekkians and who else?

I was trying to understand this C' quote w.r.t 3 cataclysm happened for Atlantis - when happened are these 3, what contributed, what are the circumstances etc. I had some thoughts based on what C's said about cosmic events etc. But, I find it too many variables to fit into 3. some of the cosmic "events" as I understand:

• Last wave 309K.
• 100K pole shift
• Venus' entry into solar system 80K. Doesn't mean it impacted the solar system in any serious way as the boundaries of Solar system are too far away.
• explosion of Kantek - 80K years back.
  • C's mentioned lot of damage happened at that time. The current geographic boundaries of continents are formed around that time.
• Giant comet entry 20K years back entry, Its disintegrations (Clube, Napier paper)
• Younger Dryas event:
  • Flood of Noah' Event: C's mentioned Venus knocked Mars into earth orbit to dump water. Which comet are they talking about? Probably these comets are NOT related 3600 BCE events, may be related to Giant comet disintegration remnants.
    • If we go by Oort cloud comets periodicity, it doesn't fit ( 1600 BCE, 5200 BCE, 8800 BCE , 12400 BCE)
• Around 3000 BCE civilization destruction events: It looks there 3 events around this time Close together ( Venus , Mars, Comets) - C's
  • Venus interactions (around 3000 BCE Venus iterations to snuck in between Mercury and Earth).
  • As Velikovsky wrote, Mars being 1/8 the size of earth gets knocked out too easily and being a neighbor, it first interacts with earth too easily. It looks to me this Mars interaction is NOT related to 'Noah's flood event.
  • Comets: It was not clear whether this comet is related Giant comet disintegration remnant around 2300 BCE ( M.M. Mendhelkar) or 1600 year Oort cloud comets?. Because Oort cloud periodicity (1600 BCE, 5200 BCE etc.)
• Around 1100 BCE civilization destruction event - Giant comet integration remnant
• Around 540 AD event Europe burning dark ages kick start - Giant comet integration remnant

There are many others, I will ignore it as it may go into too much speculation. Any way too many variables to have definite conclusion to identify which are 3 Atlantean destructions C's are mentioning.

After reading this thread, I thought I will check it out what Cayce has to say. I never read Cayce's reading before, narrowed down to few books. One book named 'Cayce on Atlantis' edited by Cayce youngest son 'Hugh Lynn Cayce' who is his eldest son (who was a engineer) in 1959 after his father's death in 1945. I want to read it With out going into 'all or nothing' mode and see how the data points fit in. I was VERY SURPRISED about the content and clarified many things related to Atlantis. The book is openly available on archive, but in image format (so not searchable), but I made it searchable using a software and attaching it with the post. There is some minor differences w.r.t C's mentioned and will mention. I am not sure whether this book is discussed before or not. I will post it here. some differences:

• Atlantean civilization: 200K to 10K BCE as per Cayce, C's called 100K period.
• Lemuria: As per C's Lumeria died out at the end of last cycle, But Cayce seems to suggest people came from continent of Mu or Lumeria. People from Lumeria( Mu), land of oz , Atlantis came to central and south America mixed up to create mosaic culture, migrated to current central and south west America created 'Mound Culture'. This could even mean Lemurian survivors moved to south America survived ( Not part of Atlantis), got mixed up with Atlantean survivors etc. California is part of Lemuria.
• Little less clarity w.r.t time lines related to "Fall", but dynamics match.

We should also remember, most of the Cayce's readings are in response to Individual's specific questions. It is the details Hugh Lynn Cayce presented by combing through his father's 14,300+ life readings (each reading itself a mini session w.r.t C's), coherently organize it, correlating with contemporary findings of his time (1959) to tell a decent story of what happened related to Atlantean destructions. The story included, destruction timelines, energy devices for daily life (transportation, daily needs etc.), mind control technologies ( implants/appendages), multi faceted migration, inevitable human conflicts and challenges etc. Reading of it triggered LOT of thoughts w.r.t what C's said what is correct or not and gave better picture of it. I think there lot of data points we can discuss. In short, there are 3 destructions.

3 Atlantean Destructions hypothesized are

• Destruction 1: around 50,000 BCE
• Destruction 2: around 28,000 BCE
• Destruction 3: Crystal induced around 10,000 BCE - C's confirmed this.

I will write more in the next post.

 

[seek10]

I will write more in the next post.

Note: His reading are numbered in a specific format like this. 877-26; May 23, 1938 - 877 is reading number, 26 is the sub section in the reading and the date. The text that is not in quote is Editor's comment.

Destruction 1: little after 50772 BCE ?

Additional details of the first upheaval are found in this reading.
"The name then, was Deui (pronounced Dar, or D-R); and the entity was active in recording messages, and directing those forces. These were not only the rays from the sun, amplified by crystals, but were the combinations of these.

"For it was these gases, that were used for what we call today the conveniences as for light, heat, motivative forces; or radial activity, electrical combinations; themotivative forces of steam, gas and the like— for the conveniences. "Then this entity, Deui, was among those who attempted to make such influences a part of the experience of those who were—as indicated—the producers of food, clothing; for these ‘human machines’ as we would call them today (not the machines used for obtaining power from the crystals).
"The use of these devices by the Sons of Belial brought, then, the first of the upheavals; or the turning of the rays from the sun—as used by the Sons of the Law of One into the crystal for the activities of same produced, what we would call a volcanic upheaval; and the separating of the land into several islands— five in number.

"Poseidia, the place or the settlement of that particular entity— Deui—at the time, then became one of these islands. Hence the confusion that at times is seen by those who would interpret such records." (877-26; May 23, 1938)

Unfortunately, no dates were asked for or given to cover the period from man’s appearance on earth millions of years ago to the first of at least three destructions of, or land changes in, Atlantis. There are a number of readings that seem to refer to the same event, a meeting of nations to combat the animal life that threatened to overrun the earth. A date is given for this meeting—50,722 B.C.—but whether this is connected with the first destruction of Atlantis is not known. The meeting seems to have been held in Atlantis and scientific accomplishments, including airships and laser-like death rays, are mentioned. One reading mentions a “polar shift” that might have accompanied land changes.

"in Atlantean land during those periods when there were the first of the rebellions that brought the misapplication of the knowledge; or the forces that might have been used constructively but were used in destructive activities— entity joined with Sons of Belial who brought about destructive forces in the attempts to destroy the animal life that in other lands overran same." (1378-1; June 1, 1937)

A number of readings refer to a sort of world council that was held to cope with the animal problem.
"among those who came as messengers from foreign lands when people planned to protect themselves from beasts of field and fowls of the air." (2675-4; April 15, 1926)

"in days when the peoples of nations gathered together to defend themselves against fowls of air and beasts of fields, came to meeting in lighter-than-air machine" (2749-1; May 13, 1926)
"in that land where people came as representatives of those who would make the lands secure against the beasts of the fields and fowls of the air or the animals of the air in the second rule in the Atlantean period." (2470-2; Jan. 21, 1926)

"in Indian land when Said was ruler—among those who gathered to rid the earth of enormous animals which overran the earth but ice, nature, God, changed the poles and the animals were destroyed, though man attempted it at the time." (5249-1; June 12, 1944)

"of that country to which messengers came when there was gathering together of men to defend themselves against beasts of fields and fowls of the air." (2855-1; May 29, 1926) •

"in that land when there were gathering of nations to combat forces of animal world and kingdom that made men and men's life miserable, entity among those that stood for use of elements in the air, the elements in the ocean, the elements in the lands as applied to forces to meet and to combat those of the animal kingdom. Oft has the entity from this experience been able to almost conceive wherein the disappearance of those known as prehistoric animals came about." (2893-1; Aug. 13, 1929)

“—when Poseidian land was greater in power, when there was the meeting called for those of many lands to determine means and manners in which there would be control of the animals that were destructive to many lands. Entity in capacity of those who guided the ships that sailed both in the air and under the water, also maker of that which produced the elevators and connecting tubes that were used by compressed air and steam and the metals in their emanations—especially as to things controlled by the facet for the radiation activity of the sun on metals and control of such and airships." (2157-1; March 27, 1940)

Here are eight separate references to an event given in eight different life readings over a period of eighteen years. The least that can be said about Edgar Cayce is that when asleep he had a remarkable memory.
Due to the repeated references to this meeting specific questions were asked about it.
Q.13 HLC: "Please advise me regarding the preparation and presentation of the article or story which I am preparing on the Great Congress held during the age of the destruction of the enormous animals that once roamed the earth."

A.13: "In the period when this became necessary, there was the consciousness raised in the minds of the groups, in various portions of the earth, much in the manner as would be illustrated by an all-world broadcast in the present day of a menace in any one particular point, or in many particular points. And the gathering of those that heeded, as would be the scientific minds of the present day, in devising ways and means of doing away with that particular kind or class of menace.

"As to the manner in which these gathered, it was very much as if the Graf were to start to the various lands to pick up representatives, or those who were to gather, or were to cooperate in that effort. And, as this, then, was in that land which has long since lost its identity, except in the inner thought or visions of those that have returned or are returning in the present sphere, the ways and means devised were as those that would alter or change the environs which those beasts needed, or that necessary for their sustenance in the particular portions of the sphere, or earth, that they occupied at the time. And this was administered much in the same way or manner as if there were sent out from various central plants that which is termed in the present the Death Ray, or the super-cosmic ray, that will be found in the next 25 years.”
Q.14: "What was the date B.C. of this gathering?**

A.14: "50,722." (262-39)

• One Island first broke up into five pieces. one piece name is poseidon.
• reason : Technology created for destruction of big animals is misused by Son's of Belial ( Kantek). Technology used energy from Sun, stored in pyramidal structures, used as lasers to wipe out intruding animals. This technology some how got related to tectonic plates and got goofed up for the first destruction.
• Geography: Before this period, there is one island of Atlantis from Bay of Mexico what is the geography at that time?

"Then began that period when there were the invasions of this continent by those of the animal kingdoms. This brought about that meeting of the nations of the globe to prepare a way and manner of disposing of them, else they would be disposed of themselves by these forces. This animal invasion resulted in the development of destructive force as could be set and then meted out in its force or power. Hence the development of explosives that might be carried about, came with this reign, or this period, when man— or men—then began to cope with those of the beast form that overran the earth in many places.

Then, with these destructive forces, we find the first turning of the altar fires to the sacrifice of those that were taken in the various ways, and human sacrifice began. With this also came the first egress of peoples to the Pyrenees. Later we find there was the entering into the black or the mixed peoples, in what later became the Egyptian dynasty. We also find that entering into the Og, or these peoples that later became the beginning of the Inca, or Ohum, those who builded the walls across the mountains in this period, through those same usages of that power that was developed by those peoples. With the same power those in the other land became the first mound dwellers, in that land.” (364-4)

In spite of the awkward language used in the readings to describe these happenings, it is possible to decipher what was taking place. There is a reference to the use of explosives to combat huge and numerous animals which were threatening man’s existence. There are statements concerning emigrations to what is now South and Central America, Egypt, Spain and Portugal. The next paragraph suggests the basis for some of man’s early legends.

"With the continued disregard of those who were keeping the pure race and the pure peoples, man brought in destructive forces to be used by people that were rulers. These destructive forces combined with those natural resources of the gases, of the electrical forces made in nature, caused volcanic eruptions in the slow cooling earth, and that portion now near what would be termed the Sargasso Sea first went into the depths. With this there again came that egress of peoples. Hence, we find in various portions of the world, even in the present day, some form of legend of these events referring to an ‘Eden’ of the world.” (363-4)

• C's references: There are many references around this 50K BCE period.
  • Nuclear war between Paranthas and Kantekaneians, 50% of the land is destroyed. Not sure whether it is land of India or something else.
  • Mars pyramid structures
  • First instance of Psychopathy
  • Hindu God "Rama" as a Priest under the influence of good guys
  • Before this, the book of Enoch written by Sanskrit society in India. - This is interesting in the context of son's of God lusted over Human Female and debased themselves.

This raises some VERY interesting questions:
- C's mentioned the current continental configurations of Mainstream 250 Million to 100 Million is more like 80K. The Himalaya's supposed to have been formed when Indian plate hit Asia 50 Million years. Did Himalayas has any thing related to first Atlantean destruction. But we don't know how these tectonic plates dynamics ( break up, sinking, raising etc.) work happen. Interestingly Cayce also mentioned about Atlantean activity interrupted ( cooling of earth) just like C's also mentioned. I know too many questions which we are not capable of coming to conclusion.

Destruction 2: 28,000 BCE

• Most advanced , Island broke into further pieces
• People's migrations to East and West happened between 28K BCE to 10K BCE . step by step migration and they have advanced notice.
• As per Firestone's book, there is some Super Nova hit earth at that time based on his evidence. This raises more questions related to cosmic human connection. When ever some cosmic event happens people go bonkers, keep messing around or vice versa?
• Geography: current Caribbean geography is formed between 28K BCE to 10KBCE with lot of raisings and submerges.

"With the second and third upheavals in Atlantis, there were individuals who left those lands and came to this particular portion then visible.
"But, understand, the surface was quite different from that which would be viewed in the present. For rather than being a tropical area, it was more of the temperate, and quite varied in the conditions and positions of the face of the areas themselves.

“In following such a civilization as a historical presentation, it may be better understood by taking into consideration the activities of an individual or group—or their contribution to such a civilization. This of neces- sity, then, would not make for a complete historical fact, but rather the activities of an individual and the followers, or those that chose one of their own as lead- er. ‘‘Then, with the leavings of the civilization in Atlantis (in Poseidia, more specific), lltar—with a group of followers that had been of the household of Atlan, the followers of the worship of the ONE—with some ten individuals—left this land Poseidia, and came westward, entering what would now be a portion of Yucatan. And there began, with the activities of the peoples there, the development into a civilization that rose much in the same manner as that which had been in the Atlantean land. Others had left the land later. Others had left earlier. There had been the upheavals also from the land of Mu, or Lemuria, and these had their part in the changing or there was the injection of their tenets in the varied portions of the land, which was much greater in extent until the final upheaval of Atlantis, or the islands that were later upheaved, when much of the contour of the land in Central America and Mexico was changed to that similar in outline to that which may be seen in the present.

“The first temples that were erected by lltar and his followers were destroyed at the period of change physically in the contours of the land. That now being found, and a portion already discovered that has lain in waste for many centuries, was then a combination of those peoples from Mu, Oz, and Atlantis” (5750-1; Nov. 12, 1933)

As I understand the preceding, man had migrated to South and Central America and to the western part of North America from Atlantis and from lands in the Pacific Ocean. This had taken place from 28,000 B.C. (the time of the second upheavals in Atlantis) to around 10,000 B.C. (the time of the final destruction of Atlantis). During the final destruction, some of the settled portions of Central and South America sank and the Caribbean area assumed its present land contours.

The inhabitants of Central and South America were now a mixture of those who had come earlier from Atlantis and the Pacific area and those who had come at the final destruction of Atlantis, as indicated by the following paragraph from the same reading (5750-1).

“Hence, these places partook of the earlier portions of that peoples called the Incal; though the Incals were themselves the successors of those of Oz, or Og, in the Peruvian land, and Mu in the southern portions of that now called California and Mexico and southern New Mexico in the United States.”

This was not the end of migrations to the Americas, though, for the same reading continues with a statement suggesting a Mosaic influx.

“This again found a change when there were the injec- tions from those peoples that came with the division of the peoples in that called the promised land. Hence we may find in these ruins that which partakes of the Egyptian, Lemurian and Oz civilizations, and the later activities partaking even of the Mosaic activities” (5750-1)

The reading then discusses the type of ruins characteristic of each period. Some circular stones, used in connection with religious ceremonies, are said to date back to early descendants of the Atlanteans. The pyramids and altars before the doors of temples were associated with other groups. Much later there was supposedly a Jewish or Mosaic influence.

The intermingling of various groups resulted in a mixed civilization which developed in Yucatan and Mexico near where Mexico City stands today. Some of these people migrated to the southwestern United States. Others later moved into the central and eastern portions of America and became what is referred to as the Mound Builders.

An individual who, according to a life reading, had left Atlantis at the time of the second destruction and gone to what is now Peru, asked a question. This is one of the few readings that mention a date.

Q.6: “What was the date of the Peruvian incarnation as given in my Life Reading, and what was the disturbance in the earth as mentioned? Give such details as will clear up this period."

A.6: “As indicated from that just given, the entity was in Atlantis when there was the second period of disturbance which would be some twenty-two thousand, five hundred (22,500) years before the periods of the Egyptian activity covered by the exodus; or it was some twenty-eight thousand (28,000) years before Christ, see? Then we had a period where the activities in the Atlantean land became more in provinces, or there were small channels through many of the lands.

“And there were those, with the entity and its associates or companions, who left the activities to engage in the building up of the activities in the Peruvian land. For the Atlanteans were becoming decadent, or being broken up owing to the disputes between the children of the Law of One and the children of Belial" (470-22; July 5, 1938)

Destruction 3: Around 10000 BCE

• Planned People migration in advance before before sudden Final breaking. People moved through Air, Water to Pyrenees , Egypt, some from Pyrenees to Egypt.
• Initial migration intended to setup temple for documenting the events and rejuvenation of the later arrivals.
• Pyrenees, Egypt, and others, There is communication between these lands through crystals. Many first moved to Pyrenees , later go Egypt.
• Though exact breaking is unknown , it is planned migration through air and water. On Water ships migrated to Egypt. Local Egyptians at that time are NOT that advanced. Initial migration of Atlanteans created conflict. Carpathians led by Ra-Ta ( Cayce's past incarnation) fought with Egyptian elite, but kicked out of the land for 9 years. when Major migration happened, Ra-Ta was brought in back, given high priest post to make the smooth integration in to Egyptian society.
• "Weird world" of Temple of sacrifice and Temple of Beauty: More like educational institution, Healing center, Hospitals to heal: Purification of body/mind/soul , removal of the appendages that influenced them negatively , surgeries, drugs and so on for future pure life.
• Competition between son's of Belial and Law of one : Belial wants to have physical fun of materialism and it created conflict with son's of LOO ( Law of One).
  • C's mentioned the initial segregation is related to race (Kantek and locals) , philosophical differences are later.
  • Cayce too says locals are of "Red Race" - Native American race
  • There is not NO uniformity of American Indians as they are from many places, many time periods- who are the mound builders.

There many references to "things" , beasts, projections and so on. I think that needs some discernment and I will write it later.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

• Lemuria: As per C's Lumeria died out at the end of last cycle, But Cayce seems to suggest people came from continent of Mu or Lumeria. People from Lumeria( Mu), land of oz , Atlantis came to central and south America mixed up to create mosaic culture, migrated to current central and south west America created 'Mound Culture'. This could even mean Lemurian survivors moved to south America survived ( Not part of Atlantis), got mixed up with Atlantean survivors etc. California is part of Lemuria.

Maybe this is the Australasian signal in South American genetics that Graham Hancock talks about?

 

[seek10]

There many references to "things" , beasts, projections and so on. I think that needs some discernment and I will write it later.

Note: "entity" means soul (of its journey of relevance)of the person whose reading Cayce was doing.
Hindu God 'Rama':

And here began the major problem that has plagued man since his advent into materiality—the use of his free will for selfish purposes in opposition to God’s will. I am not at all sure of the period of time covered. From 10,500,000 years ago the readings next mention a date 100,000 years prior to an undated event

“In the period, then— some hundred, some ninety-eight thousand years before the entry of Ram into India, there lived in this land of Atlantis one Ameilius, who had first noted the separations of the beings who inhabited that portion of the earth’s sphere into male and female as separate entities, or individuals. As to their forms in the physical sense, these were much rather of the nature of thought forms, or able to push out of themselves in that direction in which their development took shape in thought— much in the way and manner as the amoeba would in the waters of a stagnant bay, or lake, in the present. As these took form by the gratifying of their own desire for that which builded or added to the material conditions, they became hardened or set— much in the form of the existent human body of the day, with that color as partook of their surroundings much in the manner as the chameleon in the present. Hence coming into that form as the red or the mixture peoples—or colors; known later as the red race. These, then, able to use in their gradual development all the forces as were manifest in their individual surroundings, passing through those periods of developments as have been followed more closely by that of the yellow, the black, or the white races, in other portions of the world; yet with their immediate surroundings, with the facilities for the developments, these became much speedier in this particular portion of the globe than in others—and while the destruction of this continent and the peoples was far beyond any of that as has been kept as an absolute record, that record in the rocks still remains. Also their influence extended to the lives of the people to whose lands they escaped. Even today, either through the direct influence of being reincarnated in the earth, or through mental effect on individuals’ thoughts, they may influence individuals, groups and nations in the present.” (364-3)

- C's say 5.3 Million for the oldest Human on the planet as Neanderthals. Cayce is saying 10.5 million. I guess there is some difference in conversion mechanism in the "sources" and not that important for the context.
- C's says Rama is Indian and story is 50,000 years old i.e. 48K BCE. Cayce says 'Ram into India' - which some in Cayce's site interpreted as 'Aryan Priest' linking to later Aryan invasions (As per C's 6K BCE invasion and as per main stream 2K-1K BCE Kurgan migrants).

How Crystal storage works: All sorts of use cases for the energy stored - remote communication, transportation, weapons, manufacture of items of daily need and so on. some of it through this quote.

The next paragraph sounds like a description of a magnetic bottle for containing hot plasma or a giant laser,

"As for a description of the manner of construction of the stone: we find it was a large cylindrical glass (as would be termed today); cut with facets in such manner that the capstone on top of it made for centralizing the power or force that concentrated between the end of the cylinder and the capstone itself. As indicated, the records as to ways of constructing same are in three places in the earth, as it stands today: in the sunken portion of Atlantis, or Poseidia, where a portion of the temples may yet be discovered under the slime of ages of sea water—near what is known as Bimini, off the coast of Florida. And (secondly) in the temple records that were in Egypt, where the entity acted later in cooperation with others towards preserving the records that came from the land where these had been kept. Also (thirdly) the records that were carried to what is now Yucatan, in America, where these stones (which they know so little about) are now— during the last few months— being uncovered.

"In Yucatan there is the EMBLEM of same. Let’s clarify this, for it may the more easily be found. For they will be brought to this America, these United States. A portion is to be carried, as we find, to the Pennsylvania State Museum. A portion is to be carried to the Washington preservations of such findings; or to Chicago.” (440-5; Dec. 20, 1933)

I interpret this last paragraph to mean that some part of a building or temple in Yucatan had an emblem, drawing, or carving of one of these crystals (or firestones) on it. Probably, in 1933, an archeological expedition was engaged in transporting portions of the temple or building stones to the U.S. Possibly, even now, the carving or drawing is reposing unrecognized in the basement of some museum.
The description of the crystals and the idea of the wireless transmission of power is not as fantastic now as it was in 1933, when this reading was given. Recent advances in solid-state physics have led to the development of masers and lasers which amplify light waves, a form of electromagnetic radiation.

Atomic power plants produce electrical energy. Atomic- powered submarines cruise the seas. Experiments give hope for the magnetic control of plasma that will make possible the production of energy from the fusion process. It has been proven possible to transmit a small amount of power without wires.

Perhaps further advances may create a similar device that can amplify and transmit larger quantities of energy. Anyone familiar with atomic power plants and the production of nuclear energy or with the construction and operation of lasers will probably agree that Edgar Cayce’s descriptions would do credit to a non-technical person today. That he was able to describe them to the extent that he did in 1933 is amazing.

At the height of this civilization there were statements about the misuse of power and warnings of destruction to come.

“in Atlantean land during the periods of exodus due to foretelling or foreordination of activities which were bringing about destructive forces. Among those who were not only in Yucatan but in the Pyrenees and Egyptian land, for the manners of transportation and communications through airships of that period were such as Ezekiel described at a much later date.” (1859- 1; April 7, 1939. See Ezekiel 1:15-25, 10:9-17 RSV.)

“in Poseidia—entity in household of peasant that gave information regarding the upheaval in the mountains that brought destruction to the land.” (4353-4; Nov. 26, 1924)

“in Poseidia when Alta ruled earth's forces— lost life in volcanic eruptions” (4219-4; Jan. 23, 1924)

“in Atlantis when there were activities that brought about the second upheaval in the land. Entity was what would be in the present the electrical engineer—applied those forces or influences for airplanes, ships, and what you would today call radio for constructive or destructive purposes.” (1574-1; April 19, 1938)

Evidently there was dissension among the people at the time of this second destruction as there had been during the first The following reading refers to this dissension and also mentions atomic energy specifically.

“in Atlantean land during those periods when there were those determining as to whether there would be the application of the laws of the children of One or of Sons of Belial in turning into destructive channels those influences of infinite power as were being gained from the elements as well as from what is termed spiritual -or supernatural powers in the present. Entity wavered between choices and when the destruction came about by the use of those rays as were applied for beneficial forces, entity misapplied ability—hence the influence of atomic energies or electrical force of any nature becomes a channel for good or bad today.” (1792-2; Feb. 11, 1939)

Note the last sentence. This was a warning to a particular person, but a similar warning was given to many who had Atlantean incarnations, and with the atomic capabilities of man today it is an apt warning for nations as well as for individuals.

“in Atlantean land in city of Poseidon when fires of rebellion caused activities of those in high authority that brought destruction to the land; in charge of communication with Om and Mu." (812-1; Feb. 4, 1935)

5 projections: I thought interesting, though it was not clear of what that means or when? Probably 309K YA

The answers to some questions in a later reading on the subject of Atlantis provide additional information about the earth’s surface in those early days.

Q.6: “Describe the earth’s surface at the period of the appearance of the five projections.”

A.6: “This has been given. In the first, or that known as the beginning, or in the Caucasian and Carpathian, or the Garden of Eden, in that land which lies now much in the desert, yet much in mountain and much in the rolling lands there. The extreme northern portions were then the southern portions, or the polar regions were then turned to where they occupied more of the tropical and semi-tropical regions; hence it would be hard to describe the change. The Nile entered into the Atlantic Ocean. What is now the Sahara was an inhabited land and very fertile. What is now the central portion of this country, or the Mississippi basin, was then all in the ocean; only the plateau was existent, or the regions that are now portions of Nevada, Utah and Arizona formed the greater part of what we know as the United States. That along the Atlantic Seaboard formed the outer portion then, or the lowlands of Atlantis. The Andean, or the Pacific coast of South America, occupied then the extreme western portion of Lemuria. The Urals and the northern regions of same were turned into a tropical land. The desert in the Mongolian land was then the fertile portion. This may enable you to form some concept of the status of the earth's representations at that time! The oceans were then turned about; they no longer bear their names, yet from whence obtained they their names? What is the legend, even, as to their names? • • • •

“You see, with the changes when there came the uprisings in the Atlantean land, and the sojourning southward with the turning of the axis, the white and yellow races came more into that portion of Egypt, India, Persia, and Arabia." (364-13; 1932)

Note this reference to “the turning of the axis.” Recent geophysical research has turned up the fact that the earth’s magnetic field seems to have changed direction a number of times in the distant past. Currently this is attributed to a reversal of magnetic polarity, but no reason is advanced for such a reversal. Of course either the tilting of the earth’s axis or the slippage of large surface areas upon a molten core would produce similar effects, but this idea has not seemed as logical to geologists as an unexplained reversal in magnetic polarity.* The reading just quoted, like an earlier one, refers to “five projections”—as if man appeared on earth in five places at once. It seems to associate these five projections with the five races, white, black, red, brown and yellow. There is even a flat statement that these five projections happened at the same time and developed into the five races. There is no statement about how long this took.

Q.5; “Did the appearance of what became the five races occur simultaneously?"
A.5: “Occurred at once" (364-13)

May be it is introduction of fragmented souls of super ancient legend Lucifer in to Ape like man at the beginning of wave cycle ( 309K YA).

Q.4: Why was the number five selected for the projection of the five races?"
A.4: “This, as we find, is that element which represents man in his physical form and the attributes to which he may become conscious from the elemental or spiritual to the physical consciousness. As the senses; as the sensing of the various forces that bring to man the activities in the sphere in which he finds himself." (364-13)

Prince of Peace: It was not clear who this 'Prince of Peace' is and his timing, but it is used many places. Probably mythical Jesus Christ (aka Julius Caesar). If we take Caesar as 1AD (approx.) , 10,600 years back , it is the time of Younger dryas period. Approximate enough to attract wrath of cosmos and later Crystals mess up.

The following reading sheds some light on the ancestors of the Maya, Inca, Aztec and other old civilizations of Central and South America. It indicates that many different influences have injected themselves into this area, some from Atlantis, some from the Pacific region, and thousands of years later a Mosaic influence. The mound builders of early America apparently came up from Central
America.

HLC: “You will give an historical treatise on the origin and development of the Mayan civilization, answering questions”

Mr. C: "Yes. In giving a record of the civilization in this particular portion of the world, it should be remembered that more than one has been and will be found as research progresses. That which we find would be of particular interest would be that which superseded the
Aztec civilization, that was so ruthlessly destroyed or interrupted by Cortez.

"In that preceding this we had rather a combination of sources, or a high civilization that was influenced by injection of forces from other channels, other sources, as will be seen, or may be determined by that which may be given.

"From time as counted in the present we would turn back to 10,600 years before the Prince of Peace came into the land of promise, and find a civilization being disturbed by corruption from within to such measures that the elements join in bringing devastation to a stiff-
necked and adulterous people.

"With the second and third upheavals in Atlantis, there were individuals who left those lands and came to this particular portion then visible.

"But, understand, the surface was quite different from that which would be viewed in the present. For rather than being a tropical area, it was more of the temperate, and quite varied in the conditions and positions of the face of the areas themselves.

Double sex: Reminds me of Obama's.

“in Atlantean land during period of changing of individuals from double sex or the abilities of progeneration of activities of self — priestess just before the activities of Sons of Belial that brought about period of second destruction; entity aided common people, its consideration brought about worshipfulness to the entity” (2390-1; Nov. 2, 1940) ;

So Atlanteans are doing these sex change operations( not only current 1 to 1, but also 2 to 1 for procreation)

 

[hlat]

• One Island first broke up into five pieces. one piece name is poseidon.
• reason : Technology created for destruction of big animals is misused by Son's of Belial ( Kantek). Technology used energy from Sun, stored in pyramidal structures, used as lasers to wipe out intruding animals. This technology some how got related to tectonic plates and got goofed up for the first destruction.

It's funny that the Kantekkians went from blowing up their own planet to blowing up part of Earth.

 

[seek10]

Maybe this is the Australasian signal in South American genetics that Graham Hancock talks about?

I think it is possible. But, I generally don't like his approach of fitting every thing to 10K YA but understandable. In a way many good authors does it.

• Graham Hancock tends to put it around the 10000 BCE - Younger dryas event.
• Velikovsky tend to fit all data points to 2nd Millennium BCE Venus interactions - Which C's puts it around 3000 BCE.
• M.M. Mendhelkar tend to fit into his 2300 BCE.

C's call "Australasian signal" as Paranthas, but mainstream calls it 'denisovan'. C's say they are destroyed in one of the 3 cataclysms. Which one? 50K or 28K or 10K?

In one session, they say "Island empire" and in another session, they say group of Islands like NATO. If we look multiple destructions, both are correct and makes sense.

31-may-1997

A: Atlantis was merely a home base of an advanced civilisation of 3 races of humans occupying different sections of a huge Island empire, which, in itself, underwent 3 incarnations over a 100,000 year period as you would measure it.

9-may-1998

Q: Yes. That we will be provided for. Yes, but it is hard because we have to be apart... Okay. I would like to know what the geographic coordinates, according to our current grid system, that would frame Atlantis. I don't need the exact shape, just a general box shape... the perimeter...

A: Like asking: "What are the geographic coordinates of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?"

Q: Okay, let me get more specific: the Atlantean land that was supposed to have existed in the Atlantic Ocean... what was the farthest north of any part of Atlantis that was in the ocean, that no longer exists?

A: It is "time for you" to know that Atlantis was not a nation, land, Island, or continent, but rather, a civilization!

C's seems to be saying Paranthas are also part of Atlantis home base in Atlantic ocean. Cayce seems to be saying the migration happened not just 10K YA alone, it has been happening between 28K to 10K BCE ( during this time current geology of Caribbean islands shape formed - submerged and raising). Cayce says it is planned and Atlanteans know about it well in advance and send advanced parties to create structures ( pyramids and so on) for recording, preparations for future migrations and healing and recuperation etc. In this sense, Australasian signal makes sense in South America too.

Any way, for with their transport capability and every changing plate status, moving is easy, if one knows when. With plates going up and down over time, hard to visualize what happened.

 

[axj]

Note this reference to “the turning of the axis.” Recent geophysical research has turned up the fact that the earth’s magnetic field seems to have changed direction a number of times in the distant past. Currently this is attributed to a reversal of magnetic polarity, but no reason is advanced for such a reversal. Of course either the tilting of the earth’s axis or the slippage of large surface areas upon a molten core would produce similar effects, but this idea has not seemed as logical to geologists as an unexplained reversal in magnetic polarity.

The magnetic field of the Earth flipped its polarity many times, but this cannot change the location of tropical or arctic zones. Only an axis tilt or a crustal movement can do that.

As I mentioned, there seems to be quite a lot of evidence of ancient structures being oriented towards earlier poles (Hudson Bay, Norway and Bering Strait). The idea is that even when ancient towns were rebult several times, the original orientation of many buildings was kept for potentially tens of thousands of years.

 

[Tycho]

UnchartedX has a new video on the Egyptian vases. It is quite amazing. They take some vases to professional metrologists, and the precision on these things is mindblowing - like, less than the width of a human hair. If you're interested in precision technology (these measuring instruments are amazing in and of themselves), or ancient high technology, check it out:

The most likely explanation for this mystery is that this kind of vases are cast geopolymer.

 

[Tycho]

The magnetic field of the Earth flipped its polarity many times, but this cannot change the location of tropical or arctic zones. Only an axis tilt or a crustal movement can do that.

As I mentioned, there seems to be quite a lot of evidence of ancient structures being oriented towards earlier poles (Hudson Bay, Norway and Bering Strait). The idea is that even when ancient towns were rebult several times, the original orientation of many buildings was kept for potentially tens of thousands of years.

The magnetic field is flipping as we speak. The magnetic north pole just passed "the point of no return" / after stalling for about 3 months at the "42' degree mark. A pole shift might but must not follow.