Attack during sleep/Need help

[Serendipity]

Hi everyone. This is my first post here.
First I'd like to that Laura and others for the effort it took you to channel and then share the cassiopaean material with others. Reading it helped me through some tough times and I dint know 'where' would I be without knowledge I gained out of it in this last few years. Keep up the good work:)
I would like to describe my experiences on 'attacks during sleep' subject, maybe it will help someone.
So, I have been having 'attacks during sleep' for quite some time now.I will make 4 categories cause experience changed over time(more consciousnesses fear)
/1\ In beginning it were 'usual'symptoms, gaining consciousness while in a sleep and realizing I was paralysed and couldn't make a sound no matter how hard i tried plus high amounts of fear.Sometimes it was just 'waking up on left foot' as a symptom.I felt drained and big headache! (>3 years ago)
/2\Then, as I was gaining knowledge the experience itself was changed. It was still an attack but I perceived some 'creatures' that were causing it.Once it were gargoyles, then few days after it was ugly troll or something that gripped me from my back.Next day I became so sick that I thought I was dying,but a week later I was diagnosed a mononucleosis, but that's not the subject now.Some other types of creatures while having an attack in a sleep were :
- small creatures i never saw in my life but I was scared of,
- few dark shades that jumped on me,then i got launched in another dream where I was running from my 2 brothers but it were those shades I guess,
- animal like cat standing on my chest and as it was going to bite me i woke up from paralysis
In each above cases fear was main factor,and paralysis and feeling of being abused and deprived of free will. ( 3years - 6months ago )
/3\OK, so around 6 months ago I started reading the cassiopaean transcripts again, as a result I started to gain more and more knowledge and my life was changing before my eyes or more precise my looks on everything changed to better as my consciousness level grow.I was becoming more positive,energised, understanding etc.. But attacks were factor that remained, only I started to perceive them differently.
So , it was like this.Attacks were happening more often(or they were happening in about same amount as before , only I was aware of more accidents)I'll write down some of the cases.
Fear factor was missing in each of below cases but I had feeling of being in danger.
- something grabbed me from behind and squeezed me so tight that I was barely able to breathe.I wasn't afraid but i was again deprived of free will and id guess also 'eaten'
- i woke up 2 hours earlier then my alarm clock with feeling of being in danger.As I turned on right side I saw sort of a black tentacle praying upon me and it grabbed me for my neck immediately and I was awake at that time and it was real as hell , but again no fear (strange) even tho that thing was choking me in my own bed. Just few seconds after it let go of me(my guess is cause my awareness spoiled it's plans) I saw some round thing like jellyfish moving away in distance, i saw it in my third eye or maybe on screen on my eyelids
-Few weeks ago something disrupted my good dreams again and pulled me out of dream to new dream with me in bed and something holding me from behind and not letting go.I tried to fight it,then I found myself 'awake' going through hallway and going to explain my dad what happened, wanted to say:'dad something attacked me in bed , it was real but its gone now!'But then again that feeling..it wasn't my dad..immediately 'my dad' grabbed me and I was back in my bed consciousness and that event was ongoing, I was still paralysed, strange energy was embracing me , and then it finally let go.
As it let go I saw thing like squid in my 'third eye' moving away,Then I woke up feeling abused and deprived of some of my energy?
/4\Finally the last type of event, the reason why I registered and asked for help, It happened this morning,~1 hour before dawn.I went to bed around 2 am.I couldn't sleep, something didn't let me to fall asleep.I heard my brother sleeping on bed next to me snoring around 4:30 am so i was steel awake,I thought it must be his snoring not letting me fall asleep so I got up and shake him up a bit and he stopped.I had to get up early and I really wanted some sleep at least. And I fell asleep but not for long,only few minutes after i felt endangered and woke up! I saw something that made me know the attacks in sleep are real as they can be.I was awake, I heard my brother breathing loudly like he was few mins ago when I stopped his snoring, but when i looked in front of me, on my chest, there was thing on my chest! It was thrusted in my chest in area of solar plexus.It was long black thing with something like parrot's beak on top but it was black and most of all it was in me i felt it pitched in my chest , as I said I wasn't paralysed so i moved my left arm to touch it, when I touched it something disgusting happened and I'm still disgusted of it :S It began to creep out of my body. And i was feeling it moving inside me, in my right part of body to be precise.I felt it move in me from my right foot through my leg and stomach then exiting from solar plexus area.I'm still under impression brrrrrrr. After that i swear to myself i wont go to sleep ever again..but i fell asleep 20 mins after and woke up with headache and zombie sickness.I wasn't myself again but not as much as before when attack went from beginning to end.Maybe I stopped it in time.
I'll add that since I was little I was more or less psychic.Had astral projections as kid,thirst for knowledge,dreams that came true, also I can call on goosebumps/chills whenever I want, I can see air blinking/vibrating kinda like snow television screen, especially at night.And recently I started seeing tiny lights pop out of a thin air , also black dots and lines moving in vacuum.(saw lots of that after my experience this morning) I can feel energy/frequency level of other people and my own energy,that's how I recognize foreign energies on me during attack, and disgusting 'residues' the day after which results in headache and feeling like crap in general.
I wrote as much as I could remember and I hope it wasn't too long to read, and maybe it helps someone who has similar experiences, or someone helps me cause I'm sure attacks will continue and I guess I'll just have to gain more in knowledge cause knowledge protects :)

 

[Serendipity]

I made 2 errors while doing grammar correct.here they are corrected:
--First I'd like to THANK Laura and others--
--I will make 4 categories cause experience changed over time(more consciousnesses LESS fear)--

 

[manitoban]

Hi Improvise,

Welcome to the forum. :) We recommend all new members post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, and how they found their way here. You can read through the many newbie introductions to get a feel for how others have done it. Thanks.

 

[ana]

I wrote as much as I could remember and I hope it wasn't too long to read, and maybe it helps someone who has similar experiences, or someone helps me cause I'm sure attacks will continue and I guess I'll just have to gain more in knowledge cause knowledge protects :)

Hi Improvise :)

Maybe you can also start practicing the Prayer of the Soul Meditation of Éiriú Eolas before going to sleep, and see then if you find any difference in your sleep patterns and experiences.

The Prayer consists of affirmations that enter deeply into the subconscious and trigger deep body and soul level healing that may act as a protective measure.

 

[Slow Motion Mary]

Awww, Improvise, I feel your pain! As suggested by Ana, the EE program would be beneficial because such attacks leave you more fearful of sleeping because you will have an attack, not sleeping doesn't help you resolve issues, etc. It's a vicious circle. I am wondering, what is your age group? Psychic attacks seem to happen more readily to the young. Do you have unresolved issues and are wondering what to do? If so, making a decision might help. I only had one psychic attack, and it was similar to one of yours, that is a lizzie on my chest. Back then, I had no idea what it was! It had me pinned and after it left, I paced the apartment, smoking, trying to figure it out. What I came up with was that I had been mulling in my mind taking my children and leaving my husband and trying to figure out how I would support them on just my income. This attack spurred me on...I was left thinking, "I have got to get out of here!" I left my husband, my job, the apartment and the city! I took a $20,000/year drop in pay for a job in a rural area, moved me and my children and didn't look back.

 

[Serendipity]

I'm not much good with using words , it took me 3hrs to write above post but I'll try my best and say something about myself if that's allright.
I'm 21 years old human,and problems come with job description we can all agree on that.I was born just when the war started in my country, croatia.For almost 5 years my father was soldier in war defending my birth city from agressor, and my mother had to quit her good job to take me on safety, we were evacuees for almost 5 years.Story ive been told countless times is that whenever i heard siren even tho it wasnt (war siren) i would go and hide even tho I was 1-2 years old.That all must be the reason that all my life i've been runing from something or feeling in 'war' or battle.Dreamed about war many times and much more about running away from someone(thats my nightmare you can say).After the war ended we returned to my hometown, my mother started working as a maid in hotel, and housewife at home, raising me and my 2 little brothers on her own.My father was diagnosed PTSD, so you can add one more child on list for my mother to concern.I remember him back then when he was healthy.I remember him coming from the front and bringing packet of supplies from army and he saved for us, remember him telling bedtime stories to me and my brothers before sleep and going fishing together.Soon after he lost it.Can't blame him, he had terrible life and absolute zero of love in his family as he says. I am convinced his father is psychopate,enough said.All three of his children have serious psychial disorders.
My mother passed away 4 years ago.For months , maybe years she was more depressed, frustrated and above all tired.I couldnt notice that in time since I was damn teenager with,all the issues and not nearly enough knowledge.While my dad was spending his day on couch doing nothing but praying(he even convinced her and that means us children aswell to pray the rosary together every evening.He himself used to spend hours and hours on prayers and doing nothing for family,he had excuse for all those years he spend like a mindless zombie,like, "i'm on pills" or "i'm sick" or more often "i don't know" ...and that was the father I had to look up to for more than 15 years now.It was not till few years till I started to see more clearly how much bad influence he was on whole family for all these years vampiring around!
Few months before my mother passed away I started having this headaches, doctors here couldnt find the cause so she took me to bigger city;her birthtown where her father that left her mother lived and who I saw only 3 times in my entire life, yes she had bad childhood perhaps worse that mine,and it became by faar worse when she married my dad and moved to live in same house that owned his father(Imagine being surrounded by psychopates after coming back for being refugee to raise your 3 children by yourself)So back to my story.Poor finantial state we were in but she didnt hesitate a bit to spend her months wage for my headache.(This was just few months before she passed away)Nothing on the scan was found it was nothing wring with me(later i figured cause of my headaches were scoliosis, stress and maybe 'attacks at night')My mother was thrilled nothing was wrong with me.(if only she took that scan instead of me)She started having memory losses, kept forgeting more and more but didnt do nothing about it,likely because she didnt have time for it.Only time she had for herself was at night to sleep,even then she couldnt rest, psychopate had 'needs'.I saw that she became more and more disguisted with him,I can imagine that she saw no exit from the situation, she didnt have knowledge we have privilegue to have, she was most kind and giving person i met in my entire life and i realized that only after she died.If she only knew what i knew today.. she could have resisted the attack and saw that she was drained day by day and maybe found a way.In her last days I was sensing something is wrong with her, at that time i started my quest for knowledge, realized i can feel my energy and make my hands vibrate,even dreamt i could maybe heal people using it(whishfull thinking). I put my hands over her forehead many times in that few weeks when my hands were vibrating, told her about that 'ability' before and joked that i heal her,like i knew on some level that something is wrong.Few days before it happened she got a fever and felt week,it is just a flue she said, I'll be fine.When she felt even worse she went to hospital, they put her to bed to spend a night and let her out next day.Next night her state got worse and early in dawn I heard her my dad leading her to hospital.I was half asleep but awake and I heard her saying to my dad: "P_ take care of kids."Something struck me then, it was the the way she said those words or maybe it was that were her last words i heard. Few hours after I got called on phone to go to hospital and bring my brothers.When I came her mom was there, she said mom fell in a comma and doctors found out she has brain tumor only after that.But it was too late, she was braindead only her heart was still beating.She was transfered to same town we went for my head scan and switched on machines.Everyone knew she is gone except her children,for whole month her heart kept beating when they called again and said it is over.Night when she went from home last time i dream this dream.There I was runing on the road from zombies i found the black cat brought her home and put her in frot of my mothers face, and the cat scratched her head.Few days after i had astral projection or dream in which i was aware of myself where i talked with her and i woke in piece.Maybe it was opportunity to say goodbye through 5th density or could be my wishfull thinking and it was a mere dream.
I know that i didnt get over her death somewhere on some level i didnt, even tho I am becoming more and more certain and convinced that her soul lives that it was her mission and just a lesson and same applies to all of us,but it's so easy to foget that you know.Add this on my list of problems..living in strange world with strange people doing strange things and being percieved as strange by them.Well I learned to percieve that as a lesson so it's not much of a problem anyway.
It's long and with grammar errors i know, but you asked me if I had probles and I just knew I had to write this down.Many thx for help:)

 

[Mr Meowgi]

Re: t have Attack during sleep/Need help

Hello Improvise,

I have suffered from many night terrors/ sleep paralysis most of my life ( 48 years old). Peaceful sleep is hard to find for me but I have made some changes that have helped. I am not fond of being fed upon either! After a month of almost daily attacks in the 1990s I spoke from my mind to the creatures mind and asked "why are you here". It seemed to disrupt them and throw them off balance as I suppose it would be like a pig in a slaughterhouse starting to speak to the guy doing the killing. Anyway my sleep was restored to semi normal for quite sometime after that. I still have sleep paralysis and am currently re-reading the wave series which has some excellent information on psychic attack and other issues that may help. If you can get a copy of High Strangeness and look through the recommended reading list this may help as well. I thank you for your post as it helps me to see that I am not the only one out there that has sleep related problems. READ READ READ. STUDY STUDY STUDY. Find what works for you.

David

 

[Serendipity]

Thanks for advices, David. I will read and learn, always loved to learn. Like cassiopaeans say" learning is fun" and "learning is quest of a soul".
Two things I forgot to mentioned about my last attack.
First, Like I said I felt endrangered and couldnt fell a sleep that night. And I saw alien figures in my mind,and almost as I was sure that another attack and paralysis would happen cause, for once, I remembered having attack already before after seeing similar images and having trouble falling asleep,so the feeling was familiar to me already.And aswell, after 1st time I saw that images before sleep, I read this in Montalk's book "Fringe knowledge" - "Precursors to abduction include seeing visions of aliens when you close your eyes to go to sleep" , so that was 2nd sign.
Second thing I didnt mention is about my health condition.When I was kid I grew too fast in hight so I ended up with scoliosis,and with it slight but sensable deformation throught my whole body for example: headaches,toubles with neck,with my pelvis, elongated left leg, athlete's foot and my right pectoralis muscle is pulled inwards(left side of my chest is bit bigger you can say(when I breathe I feel the air going through left side of my lungs, I dont feel air going through right side of my lungs so I connected my health condition with the last attack in which, I'll repeat , I was aware and almost fully awake, that's why I managed to touch that thing that was sticking from me and when I did, same moment it started crawling out of my 'body', and I felt it going all the way from my foot to my plexus and then out.It wasnt in my physical body ofc but in 'ethereal' i think which is logical and when you think of it that could be the reason why we experience paralysis when under attack,our physical body is in sleep state and we are actually aware but not using regular awareness but that of 'etheral body' and since most people are not 'in touch' with their 'ethereal' body they feel paralised, cause they didnt learn or forgot how to use it.
Like I said I can feel 'energy' better then other people thats how I know that thing was in my other body, cause i feel that other body.And I managed to touch it, with my left arm(was it physical, most likely not)to get to the point.Why that thing was in my right part of my 'body' and why I touched it with my 'left arm'.Can it be connected with my health situation,that I feel air in my right part of lungs, and feeling left part of my body in general more then right side, right side feels numbed, that could be reason why attack came through there, I'm sure it's connected. I wrote much in detail but can't help myself, I'm theral and in hope someone will find similarity to own expirience and be able to share and help out thanks:)

 

[Slow Motion Mary]

In addition to Mr. Meowgi's suggestions about reading and studying, it appears some of your physical issues might be contributing, and I'd be willing to bet you experience physical as well as psychic pain. Yoga is wonderful for whole body health, and there are also some postures/positions which help strengthen targeted areas, whether internal or external. I would definitely discuss this with a physican or trained practitioner first, though, due to the scoliosis.

You have a ton of issues. Realize first that all situations (whether physical or mental) are interconnected and are a learning experience. Try working them out with baby steps: Tackle one of the smaller issues and work your way up to gain confidence. If you work out one issue, others may work themselves out or, at the very least, the answers will come more readily.

Be easy on yourself! It takes time to strengthen the mind, and it's a tough road!

 

[Serendipity]

Slow motion Mary thanks for advices(better late then never I hope :) )I admit I was hoping to get more solid answers but I have to work for it myself I guess for knowledge not to become a candy and thus dissolved.

I have some new things to write and I'll try to be short.
So I'm going to the colledge I feel no happy at all going to. I signed for it just cause it was the only colledge similar to what I wanted to do and learn since I was child.But as it turned out it was nothing like it(science) and i felt miserable attending it, this is my 3d year.Not to mention my that I never felt good ain groups,among many people.
OK, so I took 2 weeks off colledge and it was most wonderfull time.I was happy, I was doing what I enjoyed, reading watching movies , learning. I even became more positive, had positive dreams , and had some kind of what you might call spirit release experiencein semi dream semi awake (and on some other level aware) state. I even stopped having that unpleasent burning sensation in my naval area of stomack that is associated with STS thoughts and emotions.In 2 weeks period while reading about frequency resonant vibration I even connected it with it.During that 2 weeks I didnt had that unpeasent feeling but only few times and I began to learn to control it more, by becoming more STO. No attacks of any kind happened either!

But what happened, i decided to go to class this morning, one short class only.I thoght i was rdy to for it but wrong.Unpleasent burning sensation was charging on its own out of my controll, i wasnt able to hold frequency resonant vibration as good as during last 2 weeks. When I came back home I went to sleep and attack happened.
First, I saw black cat in same corner of my room as always(5 or 6 time that I remember this happened), i knew conciously this is attack/dream, i tried to wake up,but no deal.Cat jumped on me like always but guess what! Some invisible shield around me repulsed it! I was amazed but i knew it wasnt over. Then i woke up again in my dream and cat appeared again and this time got me and same thing that happened each time this happened, happened :P It's serious though First I felt giant pressure against me so I couldnt move at all and immediately got feeling like being milked,from naval area,something attached to me was draining something from me (i'm sure it was sexual energy) I could have just lied there and do nothing, but only my hands were free and I pinched both my hips and felt nothing(probably cause it was imaginary body), so I just lied and in hope it gets over and I survive.Then I 'fake awake' again (possible self defense mechanism against trauma of being eaten!) then after i fell asleep in a sleep i awoke for real. But except from remembering the attack, i felt something was wrong, messed with inside me. And most curious thing is that when I awoke it didnt took me 10 -15 mins to come to my senses and to rouse, but I felt like I had been awake for long time, and my eyes werent rested at all.
What is this burning sensation in naval area, and being 'milked' from same area in sleep? Is it possibly abduction scenario or some other astral being attack? What should I do with colledge,Who am I?
I wish the answers are just handled over but it doesnt go that way,does it? Everyone has to work hard and earn the answers in order to gain knowledge and knowledge protects. So , ergo I need more knowledge to be protected from attacks? maybe to recarge that shield at least i know it can be done,and 'they' whoever they are, dont want us to learn to get free,that i concluded , cause I was attacked first opportunity they had a chance,my moment of weakness.I still remember what were my thoughts when I was 'milk shake', I swore that I will never give up, that I will learn,fight,improve till I stop being served.
(but after waking up my intention faded like being stripped from it, probably one more dirty trick they got) Still I menage to wrote this post even tho I accidentely deleted it after coming to last word after 1hr writing :P

 

[Beorn]

On those dark nights I sometimes play the Prayer of the Soul audio on repeat throughout the night. What also seems to help is observing yourself during those moments of attack. I usually put my attention on the area of my third eye and just hold it there. I think this might be a clue to being able to deal with abduction scenarios also. They can torture you but they can't take away your awareness. You always have that freedom, OSIT.

 

[Serendipity]

Hi, JP, I'll definitely gonna try the Prayer of the soul. I must admit after rejecting cristian religion I stopped praying at all. Praying to my higher self should help defending against the attacks I just know it, thanks for reminding me of that.And if it comes to it,I'll center my attention in third eye area like you suggested, but I hope it wont.
I'll add to my yesterday expirience that after it, I felt pulse in navel area , like something beatining inside very strongly.It continued even when I woke up just few hours ago but now it stopped.In my opinion it's energy trying to replenish and balance itself after beind drained away for that same area.
I dont want to be food anymore! I guess I'll have to choose STO path and soundly hold to it,cause I guess that's the way it works in here.You choose STS you choose being lunch aswell

 

[bngenoh]

Hi Improvise,

Remember, as the C's say "from the fire comes the light."

As to this:

So I'm going to the colledge I feel no happy at all going to. I signed for it just cause it was the only colledge similar to what I wanted to do and learn since I was child. But as it turned out it was nothing like it(science) and i felt miserable attending it, this is my 3d year.

[...]

What is this burning sensation in naval area, and being 'milked' from same area in sleep? Is it possibly abduction scenario or some other astral being attack? What should I do with colledge,Who am I?

Your story is very similar to mine, even down to being surrounded by OPs, Characteropaths, Psychopaths, and a mother who performed incredible feats, giving of herself all that she had to raise me and my brothers and sisters by herself.

"I" cannot tell you what you should do, because that is your choice. But "I" am in my 3rd year of college to, but have decided to take an indefinite break."I" don't now when "I" will go back, but for me, it was the right decision, because "I" created the time "I" now know "I" needed inorder to clear myself, and draw closer to myself. Besides going to college just to get a useless piece of paper when all that that piece of paper is crumbling before our eyes is pointless, but that is just my perception. "I" also love Science and it is my major in college, but making the decision to break from college, "I" have actually learned way more than "I" would have learned if "I" didn't take the break, because "I" am not in tunnel vision mode anymore. "I" am also rested enough that "I" can focus on "The Work," and "paying attention to objective reality right and left."

"I" will end with a quote attributed to the man now known as Jesus Christ, "Find a place for yourself so that you are not killed and eaten."

 

[David Topi]

The way I use to deal with attacks from "Dracos" and other astral entities of lower category is expelling them in a sort of spirit release technique, similar of what Laura recounts having been doing for some time. I found a technique called soul-realigment in which you kind of "connect" with the entity and the higherself of the person being "attacked", and work on that level to release the person from the entity. For myself and the people I teach to do it works pretty well, almost instantly. Guess it is one of the many techniques available for that.

Over time, I am able to notice almost instantly the entities attached to my aura or subtles bodies, specially if I am to do any healing work, for that they come to try to block me from doing it. I know many people working with different energy techniques that suffer the same, they kind of "detect" that something is not going to be "good" for them. I have been ill for days with no reason just prior any training. Once I discovered I was under attack, I recovered suddenly as well.

The issue is to be aware, the "knowledge protects" motto of the C's is the most powerful advice you can have it here. The more you know about those entities, who they are, how they attach, why, etc the easier is for you to defend yourself. Dracos (never called them Lizzies myself, as I learned about Dracos before reading the Wave) are more difficult to "release" than a simple astral entity, they may go away, but half an hour after the session is over they are back on the person. So what it works is not just expelling them away, but working in your growing your awareness of the situation. Therefore, at least in my case, I spent much more time explaining all this to somebody when they come for a session that actually doing the releasing of the entity at such.

In any case, learn all you can, and you will be able to sleep peacefully again!

 

[ana]

Hi Improvise,

Remember, as the C's say "from the fire comes the light."

As to this:

So I'm going to the colledge I feel no happy at all going to. I signed for it just cause it was the only colledge similar to what I wanted to do and learn since I was child. But as it turned out it was nothing like it(science) and i felt miserable attending it, this is my 3d year.

[...]

What is this burning sensation in naval area, and being 'milked' from same area in sleep? Is it possibly abduction scenario or some other astral being attack? What should I do with colledge,Who am I?

Your story is very similar to mine, even down to being surrounded by OPs, Characteropaths, Psychopaths, and a mother who performed incredible feats, giving of herself all that she had to raise me and my brothers and sisters by herself.

"I" cannot tell you what you should do, because that is your choice. But "I" am in my 3rd year of college to, but have decided to take an indefinite break."I" don't now when "I" will go back, but for me, it was the right decision, because "I" created the time "I" now know "I" needed inorder to clear myself, and draw closer to myself. Besides going to college just to get a useless piece of paper when all that that piece of paper is crumbling before our eyes is pointless, but that is just my perception. "I" also love Science and it is my major in college, but making the decision to break from college, "I" have actually learned way more than "I" would have learned if "I" didn't take the break, because "I" am not in tunnel vision mode anymore. "I" am also rested enough that "I" can focus on "The Work," and "paying attention to objective reality right and left."

"I" will end with a quote attributed to the man now known as Jesus Christ, "Find a place for yourself so that you are not killed and eaten."

Although it is needed to disengage from obviously detrimental situations for our growth, it seems to me this place Jesus was talking about has more to do with a state of being and knowledge which allows us to be alive in the world, and not just a corpse, he also said:

Just then a Samaritan was going into Judea carrying a lamb. He <=Jesus> said to His disciples: "What <will> this man <do> with the lamb?" They answered: "He will kill it and eat it!" But he said to them: "He will not eat it as long as it is still alive, but only if he kills it and it becomes a corpse." They said to him: "In no other way will he hurt it!" <Then> he said to them: "You yourselves, then, seek a place of rest so that you do not become corpses and are eaten!

Then I think that cataloging most of those around us as OPs just because they are not aware of things we are and lack a specific kind of knowledge is pretty selfish and inconsiderate. Each soul is on a path of learning and they do not need to be aware of more than what is needed to carry on their destiny/lesson profile.

Even OPs are doing so in their own level, as do animals and the rest of beings :)