AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN INFECTION?
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Katie Jo said:
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Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
Yes, I mentioned that in this post also:
So this needs to be investigated just a bit more. As I mentioned, if only 80% of sufferers of RA are cured by the one protocol, and there is another protocol that claims to be effective in hard cases, obviously, we may be dealing with a range of critters. The critters that cause MS may be different or the same, what is significant, is the sites where they locate themselves and the methods for eradicating them and getting the waste out without harming the host.
The allopurinol made me feel a bit urpy too. And yeah, best to eat and THEN take the meds like the instructions say!!!! I remember when Sebastian was sick and we were giving him high doses of doxycycline. He was unable to get up so the vet told us to help him roll over every so often so the med wouldn't burn a hole in his stomach by staying in one spot. That stuck in my mind so when instructions say "take with food", I do.
Possibility of Being said:Gimpy said:
And you probably should be. I don't know, perhaps there are safe protocols nowadays, but just in case that's what Prosch had to say about MS:
You may want to check my previous post and the PDFs I linked, and other sources if you can find any, before you make a decision.
Yes, I mentioned that in this post also:
Laura said:
So this needs to be investigated just a bit more. As I mentioned, if only 80% of sufferers of RA are cured by the one protocol, and there is another protocol that claims to be effective in hard cases, obviously, we may be dealing with a range of critters. The critters that cause MS may be different or the same, what is significant, is the sites where they locate themselves and the methods for eradicating them and getting the waste out without harming the host.
nicklebleu said:
The allopurinol made me feel a bit urpy too. And yeah, best to eat and THEN take the meds like the instructions say!!!! I remember when Sebastian was sick and we were giving him high doses of doxycycline. He was unable to get up so the vet told us to help him roll over every so often so the med wouldn't burn a hole in his stomach by staying in one spot. That stuck in my mind so when instructions say "take with food", I do.
Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
This sure is a fascinating discussion!
Reading this thread, I felt that I first need to get more familiar wit the whole Bechamp-Pasteur debate over what makes us ill. For anyone who hasn't read on the subject, here's one book I found that's quite cheap as a Kindle-edition and looks like a good primer:
Bechamp or Pasteur? [Kindle Edition]
Ethel Hume (Author), R. Pearson (Author), David Major (Editor)
http://amzn.com/B003NNUVOQ
I've always been curious about the whole electro-medicine thing. I've built a couple of Hulda Clarck-zappers and also a 'Beck-blood purifier'. In light of the information discussed here, perhaps these gadgets aren't so dumb, after all? The most interesting character in all this is Royal Rife (that was mentioned in one of the C-sessions, too). I wonder if he was on to something big...?
This sure is a fascinating discussion!
Reading this thread, I felt that I first need to get more familiar wit the whole Bechamp-Pasteur debate over what makes us ill. For anyone who hasn't read on the subject, here's one book I found that's quite cheap as a Kindle-edition and looks like a good primer:
Bechamp or Pasteur? [Kindle Edition]
Ethel Hume (Author), R. Pearson (Author), David Major (Editor)
http://amzn.com/B003NNUVOQ
I've always been curious about the whole electro-medicine thing. I've built a couple of Hulda Clarck-zappers and also a 'Beck-blood purifier'. In light of the information discussed here, perhaps these gadgets aren't so dumb, after all? The most interesting character in all this is Royal Rife (that was mentioned in one of the C-sessions, too). I wonder if he was on to something big...?
Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
One interesting aspect about the treatment protocol from the arthritisrust.org website:
I waited until I had finished with the metro before taking the probiotics, but apparently they should be taken concomittently.
One interesting aspect about the treatment protocol from the arthritisrust.org website:
I waited until I had finished with the metro before taking the probiotics, but apparently they should be taken concomittently.
Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
I was looking for some history on the parasitic hypothesis of rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune diseases. The first available paper was published in 1922 or so (available here). The following one is the most recent one I stumbled with:
Seroprevalence of Acanthamoeba Antibodies in Rheumatoid Arthritis Patients by IFAT, Tehran, Iran 2007
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279823/
It might not be the culprit, but the example in the article does give an idea as to why several cycles of anti-parasitics are needed in such high doses.
I was looking for some history on the parasitic hypothesis of rheumatoid arthritis and other autoimmune diseases. The first available paper was published in 1922 or so (available here). The following one is the most recent one I stumbled with:
Seroprevalence of Acanthamoeba Antibodies in Rheumatoid Arthritis Patients by IFAT, Tehran, Iran 2007
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279823/
It might not be the culprit, but the example in the article does give an idea as to why several cycles of anti-parasitics are needed in such high doses.
riclapaz
Dagobah Resident
Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
Hello, thanks to Laura and all who have contributed more on this experimeto, not I have rheumatoid arthritis, as others have mentioned the possibility exists that these amoebae are causing a lot of problems, so I decided to give a chance to this protocol, General blood analysis have done recently, so normal, start last week, the dose of metronidazole and allopurinol I used are those recommended in this thread
First week:
The first and second day were strong symptoms, headache, extreme tiredness, nausea, yawning all day, vomiting at night, the strongest effects were for the afternoon and evening, as Laura mentioned, vitamin c, is quite good at this, quite helped me to calm many symptoms, I have taken some minerals, alpha lipoic acid, and the rest of the first week, the zinc, probiotics, selenium, symptoms were decreasing gradually, while taking the allopurinol, during the first week.
Second week
I'm on my second round yesterday and today, the symptoms are quite reduced, only a little nausea, mild headache, and nothing else, according to Laura I think allopurinol, made me quite miserable during the first week, I first noticed, not whether this related to the protocol, but the bowel movement has improved considerably, I have suffered from constipation all my life, in order to complete this protocol, and report any changes.
Hello, thanks to Laura and all who have contributed more on this experimeto, not I have rheumatoid arthritis, as others have mentioned the possibility exists that these amoebae are causing a lot of problems, so I decided to give a chance to this protocol, General blood analysis have done recently, so normal, start last week, the dose of metronidazole and allopurinol I used are those recommended in this thread
First week:
The first and second day were strong symptoms, headache, extreme tiredness, nausea, yawning all day, vomiting at night, the strongest effects were for the afternoon and evening, as Laura mentioned, vitamin c, is quite good at this, quite helped me to calm many symptoms, I have taken some minerals, alpha lipoic acid, and the rest of the first week, the zinc, probiotics, selenium, symptoms were decreasing gradually, while taking the allopurinol, during the first week.
Second week
I'm on my second round yesterday and today, the symptoms are quite reduced, only a little nausea, mild headache, and nothing else, according to Laura I think allopurinol, made me quite miserable during the first week, I first noticed, not whether this related to the protocol, but the bowel movement has improved considerably, I have suffered from constipation all my life, in order to complete this protocol, and report any changes.
Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
I start round 3 in the morning.
During the last week, I've had a lot more energy - maybe too much because I tend to get going and not stop. After my plant potting extravaganza, I had a backache that was REALLY bad but taping and a single prednisone knocked it out and I was fine the next day.
I've been having a few odd aches and pains that I haven't been bothered by in years - almost like things waking up here and there or something. But, like I said, otherwise, my energy is much better.
I start round 3 in the morning.
During the last week, I've had a lot more energy - maybe too much because I tend to get going and not stop. After my plant potting extravaganza, I had a backache that was REALLY bad but taping and a single prednisone knocked it out and I was fine the next day.
I've been having a few odd aches and pains that I haven't been bothered by in years - almost like things waking up here and there or something. But, like I said, otherwise, my energy is much better.
Gimpy
The Living Force
Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
Laura mentioned:
I've been on low dose doxycyline for the last couple years, ironically, of arthritis pain. Might explain why I got better on 100mg a day then lost some ground when I had to reduce it to 50mg.
(Had a flare up of IBS and the lower does fixed that.)
Laura mentioned:
I've been on low dose doxycyline for the last couple years, ironically, of arthritis pain. Might explain why I got better on 100mg a day then lost some ground when I had to reduce it to 50mg.
(Had a flare up of IBS and the lower does fixed that.)
Re: AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN AMOEBA INFECTION?
Thank you all for such valuable information, thank you Laura for sharing your experience by taking the medicine, i have pains in the spine, shoulders, and when i'm walking like 20 mins the legs are becoming heavy like they are made of iron, i barely can move them, it doesn't happen always though. I'm interested to follow this protocol, but first i would like to ask, the allopurinol and metronidazol requires a prescription from your doctor to be able to buy them from drug stores?
Thank you all for such valuable information, thank you Laura for sharing your experience by taking the medicine, i have pains in the spine, shoulders, and when i'm walking like 20 mins the legs are becoming heavy like they are made of iron, i barely can move them, it doesn't happen always though. I'm interested to follow this protocol, but first i would like to ask, the allopurinol and metronidazol requires a prescription from your doctor to be able to buy them from drug stores?
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It's been a couple hours since I took my first dose of Round Three and I'm feeling foggy in the head, mild headache, and low backache. I did manage to get some things done before the effects took over, but about now, I feel like I won't be worth much today!
It's been a couple hours since I took my first dose of Round Three and I'm feeling foggy in the head, mild headache, and low backache. I did manage to get some things done before the effects took over, but about now, I feel like I won't be worth much today!
