Body odor

There was some earlier discussion in this topic about crystal deodorants. I tried one for a while, years ago, and had a strong allergic (skin) reaction that developed over several days. Someone else here also mentioned being allergic to it. Apart from that problem it worked well, but there is no way I can use it.
 
Megan said:
There was some earlier discussion in this topic about crystal deodorants. I tried one for a while, years ago, and had a strong allergic (skin) reaction that developed over several days. Someone else here also mentioned being allergic to it. Apart from that problem it worked well, but there is no way I can use it.

Yeah, I can't use the crystal deodorant either, I'm allergic to them, my skin gets very irritated and itchy. I use a herbal deodorant, Indian verbena (verveine des Indes).
 
I have the opposite problem. When I hit puberty and started using conventional deodorants I started getting an itchy fungal infection in my armpits. After struggling with it with medications for awhile, switching to the crystal deodorant proved the most effective remedy and I've used them ever since :)
 
I was happy to see the other day while perusing a pharmacy chain store, Shoppers Drugmart, that the deodorant section now has several alternatives to the traditional aluminum based anti-perisperants and deodorants beyond the alum crystal product.

Some of them are herbal based products while others are blends of herbs, chemicals I can't pronounce and alum.

I also noticed that none of the traditional manufacturers had alternative products. I wonder if they are concerned of the public's perception if they make products without aluminum, perhaps it might look like an admission that clogging one's pores with aluminum could actually have health risks.

However, since the tide is turning and we are seeing these alternative products in a big name pharmacy, obviously somebody sees an area from which they can profit. It might just be inevitable that the manufacturers get with the program. Shareholders will only tolerate lost market opportunities for so long, OSIT.

Gonzo
 
It's still difficult for me to buy the right deodorant; problem is, when I found a good one - usually with the vaporizer, not spray nor cream and no aluminum - after a couple seasons they're out of stock.

Then, after a year of detoxing enemas done sporadically and when needed, after the last one that was 3 days ago, my armipits stopped stinking at all. And it's summer and it's very hot these days here, 32°C and more during the day, sweating just by sitting on a chair. But nope, nada... it's like I'm 5 y.o. again and I'm only washing up 3 times a day, 2 of which with a neutral Marseille's soap as usual. Don't know how long it will last ;)

Well, next week I'll have another DMSA therapy, so maybe I'll have to use a deodorant anyway, lol.
 
Something that I do to improve the deodorant work is to clean my armpits with Iodine-povidone liquid soap "povidine". Leave 3 minutes and rinse while taking a shower. An deodorant/antiperspirant should be used just after the shower because you will put the bacteria in it if you are sweaty. Until now I have not found a aluminium free antiperspirant that works good for me. There are other products with antimicrobials based in triclosan but didn't work for me.
 
dantem said:
It's still difficult for me to buy the right deodorant; problem is, when I found a good one - usually with the vaporizer, not spray nor cream and no aluminum - after a couple seasons they're out of stock.

Dear Dantem,

I tried the Tom's of Maine brand deodorant, but found I still smelled my BO. In the grocery store I found an Arm & Hammer brand deodorant that was Aluminum and Paraben free. It worked well for me, but I have since switched to the Kiss My Face brand patchouli scent and my armpits smell so sweet now!! :D Here is a link to the Kiss My Face deodorants: _http://www.kissmyface.com/deodorantpages/deodorantpage.html#

I hope you find something that works well for you! :)
 
LOL! Any path that lead to not to stink should be greeted with flowers :flowers:

Whoa! Active Enzymes in there, has to be very powerful... Thanks Scarlet!
I'll check the 'erboristeria' for iodine-povidone... Thanks Galaxia2002!

Just reading about Paraben :shock:
 
Hi,
I use to use non-antiperspirants until I found the salt mineral roll on and to me works quite well, althoug I must confess that when I go to a party (weddings or simliar) and because I like to dance... I use whatever brand anti-perspirant, I try it once and also took-to-go the bar salt mineral deodorant -just in case :P and ... that was not a nice experience !! -I do sweat a lot while/after dancing, I suupposed it is not for that purpose either :P
 
Only just read through this thread, may have to try the crystal deodorants.
Wanted to mention (as I can't see it so far) that I've been using magnesium oil (magnesium chloride) in a spray bottle in the mornings all over my body....sometimes I'll wash it off, sometimes I'll leave it on for the day (my skin seems to have gotten use to it, no itching).
One thing I have noticed is that it does seem to work as a deodorant (a quick search of the internet and others report this too). Be warned however that magnesium chloride should be used with extreme caution on sensitive parts of your body, or cut/shaved areas (if you shave your under arms for example)....it stings like heck!
If its not a problem putting it on your underarms (i.e. no stinging or itching) the only down side I've noticed is occasionally smelling like a swimming pool! :lol:
Actually...thinking about the reaction between chlorine and biological organisms (i.e. that strong chlorine/swimming pool smell)...it may not be such a good idea, as it may be creating chlorine gas (even if in small quantities).....not sure. :huh:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deodorant

Aluminium-based complexes react with the electrolytes in the sweat to form a gel plug in the duct of the sweat gland. The plugs prevent the gland from excreting liquid and are removed over time by the natural sloughing of the skin. The metal salts work in another way to prevent sweat from reaching the surface of the skin: the aluminium salts interact with the keratin fibrils in the sweat ducts and form a physical plug that prevents sweat from reaching the skin’s surface. Aluminium salts also have a slight astringent effect on the pores; causing them to contract, further preventing sweat from reaching the surface of the skin.[16] The blockage of a large number of sweat glands reduces the amount of sweat produced in the underarms, though this may vary from person to person.



There is not a big difference to me between alum stone or other aluminium based perspirants because alum also form gels at pH (6-8) on the armpit (in fact alum is used as coagulant agent in water purification, it acts forming gels and trapping dirt ) as the upper paragraph points, and although these gels are very poor soluble, there is controversy if penetrate the skin (that's the big cuestion)
The deodorant action of the stone could be explained for the fact the Alum is a salt (is the former difference betweeen this compound and the normal aluminium hydroxide). Bacteria couldn't grow well in a very salty media because by osmotic preasure they become dehydrated and die. It is the same process when you put salt to fish to protect it. Of course if you cut off the sweat, bacteria doesn't have what feed on.


RedFox said:
Only just read through this thread, may have to try the crystal deodorants.
Wanted to mention (as I can't see it so far) that I've been using magnesium oil (magnesium chloride) in a spray bottle in the mornings all over my body....sometimes I'll wash it off, sometimes I'll leave it on for the day (my skin seems to have gotten use to it, no itching).
One thing I have noticed is that it does seem to work as a deodorant (a quick search of the internet and others report this too). Be warned however that magnesium chloride should be used with extreme caution on sensitive parts of your body, or cut/shaved areas (if you shave your under arms for example)....it stings like heck!
If its not a problem putting it on your underarms (i.e. no stinging or itching) the only down side I've noticed is occasionally smelling like a swimming pool! :lol:
Actually...thinking about the reaction between chlorine and biological organisms (i.e. that strong chlorine/swimming pool smell)...it may not be such a good idea, as it may be creating chlorine gas (even if in small quantities).....not sure. :huh:

I think it have to do with the salt effect I pointed above. It could be a good alternative!. Let me do a research in that chlorine odor you said.
 
Hi Guys,
I found this post on body odour and that it best to add to it rather than starting a new post..

About 4 weeks ago I decided to sop using anti-perspirants, and after a week or so of just bad BO, I decided to google natural anti-perspirants, and low and behold, i found bi-carb soda had yet another great use!

I've been using it ever since and I play sport, and it has worked better than any anti-perspirants.

The only issue is, I have felt crap ever since...I am not one who gets sick very often, if I get a bug, it's in and out of me in no time, but I can't but think it's no co-incidence..I have had headaches, congestion of the sinuses, there are times when I just shake, I feel weak etc..

I am guessing that my body is de-toxing from all the aluminum build up, or is it the use of bi-carb simply detoxing me...

Either way, I won't be stopping the use of it.....I put about 1/8 teaspoon in my palm, then the same of water, mix it to a runny paste, then rub my palms together and wipe it on to each underarm....done, and it lasts all day, even when playing sport in 35 degee days
 
Dingo, how is your condition now? I've changed to organic baking soda from using Lady Speed Stick this week.. it's working great, no smells at all. And that's after everyday work's aerobic sessions and whatnot, and I'm living in a hot tropical country - absolutely no smell. I'm quite in wonderment and regret not finding out about it sooner.
 
cubbie said:
Dingo, how is your condition now? I've changed to organic baking soda from using Lady Speed Stick this week.. it's working great, no smells at all. And that's after everyday work's aerobic sessions and whatnot, and I'm living in a hot tropical country - absolutely no smell. I'm quite in wonderment and regret not finding out about it sooner.

Much better thank you! My weak/ill spells really only lasted a few weeks.

It's quite amazing how well it works isn't it? I tell people about it and they shake their heads in amazement!
 
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