Boston Marathon Bombs

JGeropoulas said:
Bim said:
JGeropoulas: interesting. Maybe soon we'll see another attempt at controlling the internet. Since "the internet is teaching people evil things, it needs to be regulated!"

Speaking of regulating the internet, I just saw these articles that don't bode well for internet freedom:

Police Scanner Live-Tweeting Complicates Manhunt For Second Suspected Marathon Bomber
_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/boston-police-scanner-live-tweeting-manhunt_n_3118253.html?ref=topbar

CISPA legislation passed in the house the day after the Marathon bombings
_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/cispa-vote-house-approves_n_3109504.html?utm_hp_ref=technology&ir=Technology&utm_hp_ref=technology

Anonymous Calls For Internet Blackout On April 22 To Protest CISPA
_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/anonymous-blackout-cispa_n_3116509.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Yes, that a;so caught my eye. See this link regarding the implications of CISPA:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2417993,00.asp

It still needs to go through the Senate but with the curent state of distraction who knows what might happen. Gold collapse, Internet Censorship....what else are they hiding in this planned chaos??
 
Bear said:
Laura said:
A few more angles to consider:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWUB4MCLsHg&feature=player_embedded

This video where he ways in about Boston makes me suspicious considering his background and that he pimps Infowars and Alex Jones, because although he comes across as very emotional and genuine if you watch his eyes closely, and I didn't really notice and decide to go back and rewatch until closer to the end, he is on a continuous basis looking down and to his right with small eye movements and bigger head and eye movements like he is reading or at the very least referring to some kind of notes or something.

Hi Bear,
I think the Lt Col is pretty genuine. His eye movements are consistent with someone accessing strong feelings
(here's an example and you can find lots of others http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCrEGb8KOwo), and he's definitely very emotional about the "terror of the situation". What struck me as really interesting was how he claims that the Black Ops boys got messed up because of the huge amount of video footage thats flying around the net. Sounds very plausible to me and those same boys were pointed out here on an earlier post complete with arab/asian types ready to fit into whichever stereotype the sheep will buy. Even though the guy says he's been around and sees the big picture, I think it suddently struck him that this is a major inflexion point for America. Any time now tanks will be rolling into the streets Waco style to "secure" the good ol' peace lovin members of the land of the free and home of the brave. The rest of the world to follow shortly through economic collapse and intro of cashless society. Interesting times that we live in indeed!
 
sort of reaction brewing over the poem Amanda palmer wrote for dzhokhar.

_http://amandapalmer.net/blog/20130421/
a poem for dzhokhar
you don’t know how it felt to be in the womb but it must have been at least a little warmer than this.

you don’t know how intimately they’re recording your every move on closed-circuit cameras until you see your face reflected back at you through through the pulp.

you don’t know how to stop picking at your fingers.

you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.

you don’t know how many times you can say you’re coming until they just stop believing you.

you don’t know how orgasmic the act of taking in a lungful of oxygen is until they hold your head under the water.

you don’t know how many vietnamese soft rolls to order.

you don’t know how convinced your parents were that having children would be, absolutely, without question, the correct thing to do.

you don’t know how precious your iphone battery time was until you’re hiding in the bottom of the boat.

you don’t know how to get away from your fucking parents.

you don’t know how it’s possible to feel total compassion in one moment and total disconnection in the next moment.

you don’t know how things could change so incredibly fast.

you don’t know how to make something, but the instructions are on the internet.

you don’t know how to make sense of this massive parade.

you don’t know how to believe anyone anymore.

you don’t know how to tell the girl in the chair next to you that you’ve been peeking at her dissertation draft and there’s a grammatical typo in the actual file name.

you don’t know how to explain yourself.

you don’t want two percent but it’s all they have.

you don’t know how claustrophobic your house is until you can’t leave it.

you don’t know why you let that guy go without shooting him dead and stuffing him in some bushes between cambridge and watertown.

you don’t know where your friends went.

you don’t know how to dance but you give it a shot anyway.

you don’t know how your life managed to move twenty six miles forward and twenty eight miles back.

you don’t know how to pay your debts.

you don’t know how to separate from this partnership to escape and finally breathe.

you don’t know how come people run their goddamn knees into the ground anyway.

you don’t know how to measure the value of the twenty dollar bill clutched in your hurting hand.

you don’t know how you walked into this trap so obliviously.

you don’t know how to adjust the rearview mirror.

you don’t know how to mourn your dead brother.

you don’t know how to drive this car.

you don’t know the way to new york.

you don’t know the way to new york.

you don’t know the way to new york.

you don’t know the way to new york.
 
Kinyash said:
Hi Bear,
I think the Lt Col is pretty genuine. His eye movements are consistent with someone accessing strong feelings
(here's an example and you can find lots of others http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCrEGb8KOwo), and he's definitely very emotional about the "terror of the situation".

These two videos below show what someone looks like when they read from a teleprompter. In the two videos the person on camera eyes shift regularly to the teleprompter which is to their left (to the right of the camera).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si6bsurCJ78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X_ISV7BPQ

What I’m thinking and seeing is that in the video we’re talking about the teleprompter is down and to the right of him (down and to the left of the camera) and that he looks to it regularly. I don’t know, he looks to be acting and using a teleprompter to me. Whether or not what he describes in terms of conflict within groups, etc I guess we’ll have to see if anything else comes out.
 
From this article at SoTT by Michael Snyder here (http://www.sott.net/article/261193-17-Unanswered-questions-about-the-Boston-Marathon-bombing-the-media-is-afraid-to-ask):

Michael Snyder said:
Will we ever learn the full truth about the Boston Marathon bombing? Personally, I have been looking into this attack for days, and I just keep coming up with more questions than answers. At this point, I honestly have no idea what really happened. Why was a bomb drill being held on the day of the attack? Why have authorities denied that a bomb drill was taking place?

1) Why were runners being told that a bomb squad drill was taking place during the Boston Marathon
2) Why did authorities deny that a bomb squad drill was being held?
3) According to The Mirror, the FBI is reportedly "hunting" a 12-strong terrorist "sleeper cell" that Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were allegedly a part of...If that is the case, why are authorities in Boston adamantly insisting that the two brothers were acting alone?
4) CBS News is reporting that the FBI interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev back in 2011. The mother of the two Tsarnaev brothers insists that the FBI had been in contact with them for up to five years. At first, the FBI denied any previous contact with the two suspects
5) Debka is reporting that the Tsarnaev brothers were "double agents" which had been "hired by US and Saudi intelligence to penetrate the Wahhabi jihadist networks which, helped by Saudi financial institutions, had spread across the restive Russian Caucasian
6) According to their uncle, there were "mentors" that "radicalized" the Tsarnaev brothers. So precisely who were those "mentors"?
7) What happened during Tamerlan Tsarnaev's trip to Dagestan and Chechnya last year?
8) Were the Tsarnaev brothers in contact with a rebel leader named Doku Umarov who is known as "Russia's Bin Laden"?
9) Did Tamerlan Tsarnaev post a video on YouTube last summer that expresses a belief that the 12th Imam, Mahdi, will soon come and that an Islamic army with black flags with arise out of a province in Iran known as Khorasan?
10) Why aren't we being told that the "pressure cooker bombs" used in the Boston Marathon attacks are very similar to the kind of pressure cooker bombs that are commonly used in the Middle East?...
11) Initially we were told that Saudi national Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi was a "person of interest" in the case. But now he is scheduled to leave the country with the full blessing of the U.S. government
12) Why aren't we being told that Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi was photographed with two other Saudis in the vicinity of the Boston marathon bombings?
17) Why did numerous mainstream media outlets openly suggest that "right-wing extremists" were behind the bombings in the immediate aftermath of the attack?

I hadn't come acrooss the Saudi connection until I read the above article, and I'm not sure if this a red herring or not. From what I gather these two boys did have some prior connections to the FBI, but where is the evidence and better yet, what was their motive?
 
Why the Marathon organization accepted that a drill will be in action during the Marathon? Why? If I was in the Marathon organization surely I would refuse. Very strange. :shock:
 
Saieden said:
Why did Ed Davis from Boston PD call them actors? :rolleyes:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4khUbXc5oGs

I don't know, Police departments can use terminology in a way that that is unique to their operations.

One definition of the word 'actors' is "a person who does something; participant." _http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/actors Which is technically true.

He could have been using that term in that context, recognised its other meaning and backtracked to 'individuals'. I don't think it is WoW smoking gun in itself.
 
Pob said:
Saieden said:
Why did Ed Davis from Boston PD call them actors? :rolleyes:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4khUbXc5oGs

I don't know, Police departments can use terminology in a way that that is unique to their operations.

One definition of the word 'actors' is "a person who does something; participant." _http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/actors Which is technically true.

He could have been using that term in that context, recognised its other meaning and backtracked to 'individuals'. I don't think it is WoW smoking gun in itself.

Indeed, I agree it's no smoking gun at all. Looking at it closely though, his corrected phrase was repeated faster. I've seen and been in a few high school plays, and this is very characteristic of someone who hasn't practiced their lines well enough or is still reading from the text. Also he used the word 'individuals' instead of 'brothers' which is how they were referred to in whole of the rest of the news clip. To me this suggests unintentional improvisation and 'feeling the heat'.

Come to think of it they keep repeating the fact they're brothers all over the media.. "The Boston Brothers" has quite a psychological ring to it. Perhaps part of the psy-op attack is on 'brotherhood'? Also there sure are a lot stories involving brothers and crime..

This is one has some interesting touches:
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_(1997_film)

and more recently:
_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765010/synopsis?ref_=tt_stry_pl

Not going to post quotes, enough of us here should know this old trick by now, but really, tPTB seems to love a good public priming.
 
loreta said:
Why the Marathon organization accepted that a drill will be in action during the Marathon? Why? If I was in the Marathon organization surely I would refuse. Very strange. :shock:

All large public events bring together lots of $$, media attention and Authoritarian Followers - the ideal platform for 'testing' things:

Marathon as dry-run disaster

The Boston Globe
April 21, 2008 - Arnold Bogis

TODAY thousands of runners and hundreds of thousands of spectators are unwittingly taking part in a planned disaster. Yet, they are not just safe from harm (except for the variety brought on by running 26.2 miles), they also are participants in an event that will make the citizens of Greater Boston safer in case of a natural catastrophe or terrorist attack.

Primary responsibility for the health and well-being of both runners and spectators in Boston rests with Boston Emergency Medical Service (BEMS), along with the Massachusetts Department of Public Health and Emergency Management Agency. According to BEMS chief Richard Serino, his department considers events like the marathon and the Fourth of July celebration as "planned disasters" - safe, controlled environments that present "an opportunity to test some things you would never want to test in a real disaster."

Although the principal goal during such events remains the safety of everyone involved, organizers have realized that these annual gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people present the perfect opportunity to evaluate new technologies, exercise disaster plans, and build vital relationships between public safety agencies and the private sector.

For example, a tracking system that utilizes barcodes and hand scanners to log a patient's condition and location has been tested during past races. During a real disaster, this technology could provide authorities quick access to the location and condition of casualties, information that currently takes hours, if not days, for friends and families of the injured to ascertain.

This year, as always, even more important than testing new technologies is the development of relationships between various public safety and medical communities, as well as with the private sector. Homeland security specialists often talk about the importance of not waiting to "exchange business cards at the scene of a disaster." This means that counterparts from different agencies meet each other before a disaster thrusts them together for the first time.

Treating these large, annual events as opportunities to test the disaster response system accomplishes exactly that. Personnel from public safety and health departments meet regularly during the year to plan these events. New officials will quickly meet their counterparts in other agencies. As described in a recent Globe story about how close the 2007 race came to being cancelled due to weather, a unified command is established where all the relevant organizations can monitor the event and react together if something goes wrong.

This cooperation extends beyond Boston. Thousands of runners pass through eight different towns on their way to the finish line. Coordinating medical care and security for the runners and spectators strengthens connections that will be relied upon when Boston requires mutual aid to deal with a crisis such as a natural disaster or terrorist attack.

To successfully manage the marathon, BEMS and other public safety agencies must have relationships not just with the Boston Athletic Association, which organizes the race, but also with a diverse set of private organizations. These include, but are not limited to, private ambulance services that back up BEMS, and hotels and other businesses along the route that help make the behind-the-scenes operation of the marathon run smoothly. When a real disaster strikes, these contacts can be called upon to lend needed supplies and other assistance.

This type of innovation is not limited to Massachusetts. In Washington, D.C., the city's evacuation plan is tested during the mass exodus of people after the fireworks finale at the Fourth of July festivities. California has developed medical surge plans to be used after catastrophes such as an earthquake in San Francisco or a nuclear terrorist attack in Los Angeles. The New York Police Department has created robust intelligence and counter-terrorism divisions to protect its residents.

Massachusetts is better prepared for a real disaster because every Patriot's Day and Fourth of July is treated as a "disaster." Instead of constant warnings about the inevitability of another terrorist attack or natural catastrophe, the public would be better served if this type of local homeland security innovation were promoted and adopted elsewhere.

Arnold Bogis is a research fellow at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government.

Note that highlighted sentence. It's not a question of "why this event and not some other one?" The default setting is 'everything is a drill' because the U.S. is on a 'permanent war footing' since 9/11. The whole of the U.S. in the Age of Terror has basically become one big ongoing 'drill'...
 
Sorry if this was already posted but it looks like Tamerlan was taken alive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kcNAsCynBnU#!

So, what happened?
 
Laura said:
Sorry if this was already posted but it looks like Tamerlan was taken alive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kcNAsCynBnU#!

So, what happened?

Very interesting. According to his aunt, it's him:

_http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspects-aunt-ids.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0-C6Z0YEGM&feature=youtu.be
 
Much of this story still has holes. Why is it that they're not allowing the public to see the videos that show these men leaving the bags behind, however everything they said to investigators today, including the suspect's confession (without an attorney or Miranda rights given), can be made public before the trial begins?
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Laura said:
Sorry if this was already posted but it looks like Tamerlan was taken alive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kcNAsCynBnU#!

So, what happened?

Very interesting. According to his aunt, it's him:

_http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspects-aunt-ids.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0-C6Z0YEGM&feature=youtu.be
Interesting, aunt's machine crashed when she is verifying the photo of the journalist who want to interview.
 
Re: Report of 2 Explosions At The Boston Marathon Finishline

JGeropoulas said:
Bim said:
JGeropoulas: interesting. Maybe soon we'll see another attempt at controlling the internet. Since "the internet is teaching people evil things, it needs to be regulated!"

Speaking of regulating the internet, I just saw these articles that don't bode well for internet freedom:

Yeah. Seems indeed to be going into that direction:

New details emerged Tuesday from U.S. officials and family members about how the two Boston Marathon bombing suspects may have been swayed by a radical, anti-American strain of Islam. A U.S. senator said they had been radicalized by sources on the web, not through direct contact with terror groups. In Washington, Republican Sen. Richard Burr said after the Senate Intelligence Committee was briefed by federal law enforcement officials that there is "no question" that older brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev was "the dominant force" behind the attacks, and that the brothers had apparently been radicalized by material on the internet rather than by contact with militant groups overseas.

Authorities believe neither brother, both Russian-born ethnic Chechens, had links to terror groups. However, two U.S. officials said Tuesday that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26 — who died last week in a gunbattle — frequently looked at extremist websites, including Inspire magazine, an English-language online publication produced by al-Qaida's Yemen affiliate. The magazine has endorsed lone-wolf terror attacks.

After befriending Misha, Tamerlan gave up boxing, stopped studying music and began opposing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to family members, who said he turned to websites and literature claiming that the CIA was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
"Somehow, he just took his brain," said Tamerlan's uncle, Ruslan Tsarni of Maryland, who recalled conversations with Tamerlan's worried father about Misha's influence.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/04/23/boston-marathon-bombing-suspects-islamist-motives.html
 
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