Boston Marathon Bombs

Kniall said:
Well yeh, there's common sense, but that's in short supply these days. You might try reading up on the Sandy Hook actors BS and noticing the pattern?

Exactly...so why wouldn't they use that pattern if they wanted a "victim" they could parade around later?
 
Perceval said:
meta-agnostic said:
An SOTT piece that did a point-by-point countering the supposed evidence for such things (and avoided name-calling, since misguided truth seekers generally don't like it any more than sheeple) could go a long way toward keeping some of them from veering down the wrong path.

There'll be one coming this weekend.

Looking forward to it!

Perceval said:
The point being, there is NO NEED for "actors" when you easily plant a real bomb among real people and get the real thing.

Why fly something... else into the Pentagon when there is no need to fly something other than a Boeing 747 into the Pentagon?

What I am saying is that there may be some interesting aspects to Boston that have not been looked into, the same may go for Sandy Hook and the Batman shootings as well. I am not saying that there definitely were actors at any of these events, at this point, I seriously doubt it, but I'm still not ruling anything out. All these acts were planned, (and executed), by "people" that are not normal by a long shot.

I suppose another name for misguided truth seeker is "food". Like Arc once said, "I don't want to believe anything, I want to know". Not believe lies.

To say: "only a fool would believe, (or even entertain), something like that", may have some truth, not the best argument to counter supposed evidence that can be diffused through more objective, and even scientific argument.


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Guardian said:
Anyone with any traumatic injury training at all knows you keep the amputated limb above the heart, so placing him in the chair that way was a serious mistake, and it would have resulted in a trail of blood....yet there is not one drop to be seen in the path, or on the chair?

I agree that it's weird that there's no trail of blood. However, the wheelchair does appear to have blood on it (on the foot rests).
 
Megan said:
From where I sit, things are pretty well "contained." People seem generally to have swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker, including pretty much everyone I know. The ongoing staged events serve to maintain the illusion as well as tighten the hold.

Agreed, at least in terms of the MSN and what appears (and I don't live there) to be the general mood of people after this event in the US. However, not all other peoples in other places will accept it, osit. What also appears on the surface may not exactly square with what is in all peoples heads, especially since Kennedy or 9/11 etc., as people started to question after, and many did not swallowed it. Fear of speaking on the other hand contains many a voice, so in that sense, it is containment, helped by the MSN and attacked if one does speaks out in the main. Perhaps though, it is as you say in maintaining "the illusion", they may just think that if the majority follows, who cares what the others think, especially if it is just in their heads.

This brings up a memory of driving across the boarder down to San Francisco after 9/11 and after the start of the pathological Gulf War, no one talked openly, it was only in whispers if they did at all. Almost every car on the road seemed to have flags and ribbons of support in a posthypnotic way - it was rather scary.
 
Mark said:
Perceval said:
The point being, there is NO NEED for "actors" when you easily plant a real bomb among real people and get the real thing.

Why fly something... else into the Pentagon when there is no need to fly something other than a Boeing 747 into the Pentagon?

Because when it comes to the Pentagon you couldn't afford an indeterminate amount of damage, so a 'surgical strike' was in order, hitting only a section that was safe or convenient to hit? On the other hand, when it comes to normal people, why would mass murderers stay their hand?
 
Approaching Infinity said:
I agree that it's weird that there's no trail of blood. However, the wheelchair does appear to have blood on it (on the foot rests).

Yeah, I saw the discoloration on the edge of the footrest in this picture, but even blown up, it doesn't look like blood to me? Even if it is blood, there's NOT enough of it.

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I've looked at this part of the "drama" from a lot of angles, and at this point I agree that it's faked. Even the guy's hand is only smudged. If he'd been holding on to his bleeding stumps for all that time, he would be DRENCHED in blood, his hands, cloths, face, etc. and so would the guy in the cowboy hat... and I know this from experience.

This is a video showing "amputee actors train solders for combat"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSLm_yWqADc

so we know the US Military has "amputee actors" Look at the "blood" they use and tell me it doesn't look like what we're seeing on Wheelchair guy?

I think the guy is a plant, perhaps to be used as the Poster Child for the "War on Terror" at a later date?

If the ptb started the whole "They're using crisis actors" dis-info campaign at Sandy Hook and other prior tragedies, perhaps they did so because they were planning on inserting actors at a later date, once the initial dis-info had been discredited?

I don't know, all I do know with absolute certainty at this point is when a guy looses his leg in an accident, there is a LOT of blood, and it sprays on everyone around him...I'm talking feet, not inches. The stump does NOT stop bleeding when the tourniquet is applied, in fact, the stump is STILL bleeding substantially after it's been totally packed off....which was never done for wheelchair guy. The packing is soaked within seconds in a real traumatic amputation, and that's with a tourniquet applied first.

Wheelchair guy does not have enough blood on him to account for one leg being blown off, much less two. If this was real, he would be soaked in his own blood, his pants, shirt, hair, everything...and I mean SOAKED. So would his rescuers...they would have to throw everything they were wearing at the time away, including underwear. The tourniquet could have saved his life, but it is not possible that it could have prevented massive spraying before it was applied, nor significant leakage after it was.
 
Windmill knight said:
Mark said:
Perceval said:
The point being, there is NO NEED for "actors" when you easily plant a real bomb among real people and get the real thing.

Why fly something... else into the Pentagon when there is no need to fly something other than a Boeing 747 into the Pentagon?

Because when it comes to the Pentagon you couldn't afford an indeterminate amount of damage, so a 'surgical strike' was in order, hitting only a section that was safe or convenient to hit? On the other hand, when it comes to normal people, why would mass murderers stay their hand?

Also when considering that the offices of Naval Intelligence may have been targeted in that strike.
 
LQB said:
Windmill knight said:
Mark said:
Perceval said:
The point being, there is NO NEED for "actors" when you easily plant a real bomb among real people and get the real thing.

Why fly something... else into the Pentagon when there is no need to fly something other than a Boeing 747 into the Pentagon?

Because when it comes to the Pentagon you couldn't afford an indeterminate amount of damage, so a 'surgical strike' was in order, hitting only a section that was safe or convenient to hit? On the other hand, when it comes to normal people, why would mass murderers stay their hand?

Also when considering that the offices of Naval Intelligence may have been targeted in that strike.

It might have been an area of the Pentagon that at one time was assigned to Navy Intelligence, but on 9/11 the offices were being used by auditors tracing $1 trillion in missing DoD expenditures that disappeared under Dov Zakheim and Donald Rumsfeld, as announced on 9/10/01, coincidentally.
 
Of all the photos I've looked at this appears to be the most damning, and it's also been removed from the site I originally got it from, so I uploaded it to photobucket.

To the left you can clearly see wheelchair guy, with what appears to be two well healed stumps in the air and NO blood on him, the rescuer or the ground ...yet.

When someone looses a leg, it only takes them a minute or two to bleed out without a tourniquet, and whoever applies that tourniquet gets soaked... I know because I've watched it happen (I was holding the flashlight) and I will NEVER forget what I saw.

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This photo shows wheelchair guy with NO tourniquets yet. If this was real, he would already be unconscious, if not dead. People bleed out VERY fast with injuries like this.

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Here's another where he's magically stopped pumping blood without a tourniquet.

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It's also interesting that the guy in the boots just walked through the "fresh blood" and left no heal print?
 
I do realize how bizarre it sounds to say this scene is faked, and I would happily like to hear any other explanations for what I'm seeing with my own two eyes?

In this one the "bloody bone" is pointed directly towards a woman's white shirt. No blood and no tourniquet?

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griffin said:
It might have been an area of the Pentagon that at one time was assigned to Navy Intelligence, but on 9/11 the offices were being used by auditors tracing $1 trillion in missing DoD expenditures that disappeared under Dov Zakheim and Donald Rumsfeld, as announced on 9/10/01, coincidentally.

That makes even more sense. Thanks for upgrading me on the facts. :)
 
Guardian said:
Perceval said:
This shredded clothing/skin can later be seen in the "iconic" picture of him in the wheelchair.
Anyone with any traumatic injury training at all knows you keep the amputated limb above the heart, so placing him in the chair that way was a serious mistake, and it would have resulted in a trail of blood....yet there is not one drop to be seen in the path, or on the chair?

I remember that from a first aid course that I did 25 years ago and I have never forgotten it.
Guardian said:
I do realize how bizarre it sounds to say this scene is faked, and I would happily like to hear any other explanations for what I'm seeing with my own two eyes?

In this one the "bloody bone" is pointed directly towards a woman's white shirt. No blood and no tourniquet?

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Nothing is bizarre in this world. I think you are right. The victim and by-standers should have been soaked in blood.
 
Guardian said:
Of all the photos I've looked at this appears to be the most damning, and it's also been removed from the site I originally got it from, so I uploaded it to photobucket.

Indeed. Michael Rivero at www.whatreallyhappened.com has a nice collection of photos from the false flag bombing in Boston. Go to https://startpage.com and enter "host:whatreallyhappened.com Boston photos" (without the quote marks) in the search request to list those. Some of the entries there have critical analyses of the circumstances and photos that conflict with the evolving propaganda narrative.

He notes that the 'blood' on the ground looks like movie special effects (he previously worked in film production), and it does look fake. Blood is never that orange-red color, and only fresh human blood is bright red - it soon darkens upon exposure to air as it coagulates, and then it quickly turns brown.

If you've ever accidentally cut yourself, you've seen this. Crime scene and war photos clearly show this. It takes only a minute for spilled blood to darken, therefore that is not real blood in the pictures.

In the runup to this latest "terrorist attack" security theatre production the FBI was coming under fire for orchestrating a series of ridiculous so-called "terrorist conspiracies", in which disgruntled patsies were entrapped by FBI handlers into aborted plots. Perhaps the FBI decided to let one such project kill a few people and maim a few dozen more, in order to ramp up public fear and appear competent.

It would seem so. It likely also got enthusiastic encouragement, and help, from its Zionist instructors.
 
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