Can STO initiate first contact ?

ScioAgapeOmnis said:
jeremyg said:
Since I'm "on call", the messages come through when needed. I'm fine with that. I agree that if a non-healer began getting messages out of the blue, I'd advise careful discernment too. But I really don't think we can make up a set of rules for everyone to follow, least of all around psychic phenomena. There's just too much individual variation.
I could be wrong but it sounds to me that you're making an assumption that you, being a "healer", do not need to practice careful discernment as much as someone who is not a "healer"?
Nope. Read what I said in the rest of that post again. "Trust and verify", which happens to be a policy originally described that way for international arms-reduction treaties. I like it and use it.

What I said, IOW, is that with non-healers, there may not be the express request to other beings to make contact as needed. Therefore the mere reception of messages that were not "asked" for at that time can have different meanings for healers and others. It's also possible for non-healers to ask to be contacted as needed in the future, in which case such contacts do not in themseves constitute STS "leading". See the distinction there?

ScioAgapeOmnis said:
I think there are many things that go into achieving STO contact. Your intentions are only one part - but just because you have good intentions in no way increases your chances to contact good guys, and this is proven by the entire new age movement and the majority of religious people in the world - vast majority of both of those groups just want to "help humanity" and "heal" and "save" people. But as Ark said, by their fruits shall you know them.
I totally agree with Ark. In fact, I agree with every post of his I've read so far. :) And that's what I was trying to say; we can't judge the experiences of others by a few simplistic rules. Sure, good intentions are "necessary but not sufficient". I don't agree that they don't "increase your chances", they do, and radically so, from zero to something, an "infinite" increase. Nor do I agree that the "entire" New Age movement is derailed; that's exactly the sort of unverifiable generalization that many (but not all) of the religions you also object to make. Our Work calls for more precision from us.

ScioAgapeOmnis said:
jeremyg said:
"By their fruits ye shall know them." All communications I've received have been helpful, never harmful, never negative.
Yeah but how do you define "negative" and "helpful" and "harmful"? Vast majority of new age sources also would describe their communications exactly as you just described yours. I'm not saying they are similar, I'm just saying it to emphasize how important it is to be critical and objective at all times, especially in light of such generally misunderstood/distorted concepts like negative/positive/good/bad/helpful/harmful etc.
Absolutely right! I think we all arrive at our own definitions of polarities, but mine are pretty much identical to the definitions of STO/STS Laura uses in the Wave. STO is motivated to seek the highest good for the community at large, broadly defined (for me, all life, period), and does so without infringing in any way on Free Will. I could go on, but I hope I don't need to... I've always held this view, from childhood on, to the consternation of my relatives, who wondered where I could have gotten such strange ideas... I wondered where they got theirs... ;)

ScioAgapeOmnis said:
jeremyg said:
When they include information about 3d events, I always check, and the info is always correct. No exceptions, ever. With that sort of track record, since childhood, I really don't question what I get; I trust, and verify. YMMV. ;)
Also, I'm curious, what do you mean when you say you are a "healer"? What sort of healing do you do?
Glad you asked! ;) I didn't want to go that far off topic before, in a post that was already long. First, I'd like to qualify the word "do". I use it for lack of a better one, but in a very real way I do not "do" anything. I'm like a faucet. The faucet doesn't create the water that comes from it, it just is the last bit of the channel. Likewise, all healing is from Source, and my role is to be a sort of "transformer" that matches the energy to the person in need of it. I firmly believe that everyone can be a healer. I've taught others the basics, many times, and children are really good at it because they don't know yet that it's impossible. They just try it, it works, and they use it. Adults have more baggage.

Every healer needs to find their own process. Mine is to get "authorization" from Source, then to ask if healing is wanted, then ground myself, ground the healee, and start examining. There's always some leading as to focus, and I use my left hand as the receptive one to sense problems. Then often I use my left to draw out, and ground, the negative (or alien) energy, while using my right to project Source energy into that area. It feels like using a hose (right hand) to wash out a wound, and a vacuum cleaner (left hand) to collect and remove the debris, which then passes into the Earth for recycling.

That's a very brief summary. I could write a book, but then many already have. Here's a short list:
- Rosalyn L. Bruyere, Wheels of Light, ISBN 0-671-79624-0
- Jack Schwarz, Human Energy Systems, ISBN 0-525-47556-7
- Donna Eden, Energy Medicine, ISBN 1-58542-021-2
- W. Brugh Joy, M.D., Joy's Way, ISBN 0-87477-085-8

My wife is reading the first one now; I took a workshop with Rosalyn back in 1983. She was the technical director for Ellen Burstyn's film Resurrection, one of my all-time favorites. She told me that every single thing they showed Ellen's character doing was really being done by someone, verifiably... the one liberty she took was having a single person do them all. She also told me that Ellen insisted on learning how to heal, herself, for real, before she would do the film... I had a very positive sense of Rosalyn's own energy and integrity.

There are many more, and each has a slightly different perspective. You might go to your New Age bookstore ;) and look at the Healing section. What calls to you? That's where your own discernment is essential to lead you to the source most appropriate for you.

Thank you all for an interesting discussion here!
 
As for the "voice," let me just say that on a number of occasions I have heard a voice. It is actually not something that I hear with my ears - that is clear - but it seems to stimulate the part of the brain that "reads" auditory signals. This is kind of hard to explain, but I hope that you'll understand. It is like it is so "mine" that it is stronger than anything that might come from "out there," and this "mine-ness" gives it that extra quality that allows it to be interpreted by the auditory signal reading part of the brain.

In any event, the only thing I can say about it is that I think it is the "mind talk" of the higher intellectual center, using Gurdjieff's and Mouravieff's system.

This has happened only less than a dozen times in my entire life, and when it happens, I do sit up and pay attention! It most often happens in dreams or just as I am going to sleep or awaking. When it happens, it is startling enough that it wakes me up instantly!

Reading Castaneda, I was interested that he described something similar and called it "The Voice of Seeing."

Now, the above is not to say that there aren't other influences that could produce this effect from the outside, but somehow, I think that a person can get a feeling about it the same way you know that your body is your own and not someone else's. Even if it may sometimes seem "foreign" because most people have so little connection to the higher centers, there is still a "taste" of the self.
 

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