Canadian Orwellian world: Lockdowns, vaccines passports and more

[iamthatis]

Some alleged data on the amount of money immigrants receive upon entering Canada.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837512062278553714

$1899.41/m monthly allowance.
$949.70/m employment incentive.
$,1800/m child tax benefit.
$500/m housing top up.
$8,326.14 for basic goods.

Total: up to $70,115.46 just in the first year. After that they can get other provincial and federal benefits.

RAP stands for Resettlement Assistance Program.

I looked for other information, as this seems insanely high. It could easily be fake. In 2015, there were claims of immigrants and refugees receiving a monthly stipend of "of $1,890, plus $580 in social aid, for a total of $2,470 per month or nearly $29,000 per year." This has been fact-checked, and said to be false by the government, but who knows if its true. The maximum yearly amount available was $25,000 per family through RAP:

Fact check: Do refugees get more financial help than Canadian pensioners?

As Canada's new Liberal government moves forward with its plan to resettle 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year, false claims about how much money will be spent to support them have been circulating online.

www.ctvnews.ca

This below suggests the total money available is waaay lower, even when adding both Federal and Provincial benefits. Seems more real to me.

Newcomer to Canada Benefits: What You Need to Know (2024)

Learn about the newcomer to Canada benefits you can receive, along with the helpful newcomers to Canada services offered by the government.

www.savvynewcanadians.com

The government website suggests support will only last for one year.

What kind of support do government-assisted refugees get?

ircc.canada.ca

Canada provides income support under the RAP to eligible refugees who cannot pay for their own basic needs. Support can include a:

• one-time household start-up allowance, and
• monthly income support payment.

The level of monthly financial support is generally based on the prevailing provincial social assistance rates in the province where the refugees settle. Financial support can last up to one year after a refugee arrives in Canada, or until they can support themselves, whichever occurs first.

So I think that Twitter page is disinfo.

 

[meadow_wind]

Talking with my neighbor today, I learned a few things regarding Canadian money in its cash form.

A friend of his won at Loto Quebec lottery 25 000$. He's been interrogated for 30 min in their office regarding how he would spend the said prize money, and he had to disclose exactly what he intended to do with it. From what I understood, he was not allowed to have it deposited in his personal account and spend it as he wished, which sounds weird to me. So I asked if it was maybe some special Loto or something? They said it was a ticket similar to 6/49.

In the end, the guy told them he would go to Walt Disney with his family. They replied to him: "was this something you thought about doing before? Or did you just come up with this idea now?"
I mean, what the hell is that? Has anyone else on the forum ever heard of something similar?

Then the conversation went about another guy they know who went to the bank to withdraw 4000$ from his account. The clerk lady asked what it was for. The guy replied: "it's none of your business". She called the police so when the guy walked out of the bank, the police told him he's not allowed to carry 4000$ cash, so either he deposits it back in his account, either he gets arrested.

Apparently there's a law that states it's illegal to have more than 2000$ cash on you.

No wonder why a lot of Canadians withdrew their assets and left.

 

[Lone herbal witch]

Talking with my neighbor today, I learned a few things regarding Canadian money in its cash form.

A friend of his won at Loto Quebec lottery 25 000$. He's been interrogated for 30 min in their office regarding how he would spend the said prize money, and he had to disclose exactly what he intended to do with it. From what I understood, he was not allowed to have it deposited in his personal account and spend it as he wished, which sounds weird to me. So I asked if it was maybe some special Loto or something? They said it was a ticket similar to 6/49.

In the end, the guy told them he would go to Walt Disney with his family. They replied to him: "was this something you thought about doing before? Or did you just come up with this idea now?"
I mean, what the hell is that? Has anyone else on the forum ever heard of something similar?

Then the conversation went about another guy they know who went to the bank to withdraw 4000$ from his account. The clerk lady asked what it was for. The guy replied: "it's none of your business". She called the police so when the guy walked out of the bank, the police told him he's not allowed to carry 4000$ cash, so either he deposits it back in his account, either he gets arrested.

Apparently there's a law that states it's illegal to have more than 2000$ cash on you.

No wonder why a lot of Canadians withdrew their assets and left.

This happened to me as well.
I withdrew an amount similar to pay up some repairs we needed done on our house. Because the repairs took some time, I had to provide a bit of money at a time to pay the workers when required.
I said to the teller the same thing: it is not of your business. She responded that because we hardly take any money out at one time, she needed to insure that we were not coerced into giving a large sum of money to someone without approval. I thought this went too far.
Eventually, I dealt with only one person who knew what we were doing and dealt only with him or her. I insisted upon that to ensure that we would not be subjected to any "interviews" about what we were doing.
Canadian banks are so controlled now that it is worse and worse for anyone to leave with a large amount of cash to store up or for vacation. All you can do is take away a small amount at a time, leave it in a secure place at your house and used it whenever you want or need.
The big banks such as TD or RBC are the worse. The small credit unions are more flexible. And even transferring money from one institution to another is a big hassle. I had loads for problems with TD in the past. It got so bad that eventually I decided to get the money out a little at a time and invest it into another bank every month just to be able to control my own resources. You want money? take out a line of credit! That is exactly what they want: more interest for them, more payments for us! Lovely set up, right?
I cannot vouch for what your friend winning a large amount of money experienced! Never heard of that! But then again, never been close to someone who did! What a bunch of bull!
More and more businesses are leaving our country because of too much regulations, too many taxes (even the individual takes a large hit), too much red tape. The policies are meant to keep us here and being bled to death with taxes and controlling all assets we have at their disposal.
Watch our PM and his gang: all policies are meant to make us pay more and continue the squeeze on our freedom (well, that is an oxymoron right there), our ability to make our own choices and to ensure that we continue to contribute to a leftist socialist gov who care very little about the individual. And the waste is outstanding! So long as we "demand" services that are not really necessary, all will go to them and the decisions they make are simply outrageous!
Just recently, our provincial PM along with the federal PM and other business partners have made a deal to purchase a large mall complex to upgrade it and build "affordable housing", a grocery store, medical clinic, and a few retail outlets right in the middle of the city. Does that sound familiar to you all? Remember the glass city in Arabia????

MSN

Please don't get me wrong, affordable housing and food is really needed! That mall was designed to attract people to shop downtown! Now it will be another "glass dome city"! And the crime rate in that location is outstanding. Will they fix that as well? We already have several store closures in other areas of the city(convenience stores who are opened until midnight, very popular here) who have packed up and left because of the crime rate. No crime resolution on that! Instead, let's revitalize the big shopping mall instead! That is where all our money goes: into 15 min. cities! And they do it in such a way that people don't even realize this is happening!

Sorry about my venting! So tired of all this. I try to keep an open mind, very difficult when you are aware about the control at every turn wherever you go!

 

[Lone herbal witch]

Here is the full article. It only recorded at MSN on my previous contribution and a few contributors here prefer to have the full article instead of searching for it. Here it is.

Federal government to support $650M Portage Place redevelopment​

The redevelopment plan for Portage Place calls for a residential tower above the pad at left, the removal of the glass atrium to the right at Edmonton Street and a health-care tower above the pad at the far right of this aerial image.© Trevor Brine/CBC
The final pieces are coming together to facilitate the redevelopment of downtown Winnipeg's Portage Place mall.

The real estate arm of the company that owns the Winnipeg Jets has until the end of this month to exercise its option to embark on a $650-million redevelopment of the underutilized property, which opened in 1987 as the centrepiece of an earlier downtown revitalization megaproject.

True North Real Estate Development intends to build a new health-care tower above the east side of the mall, construct a housing tower above the west, dismantle the glass atrium at Edmonton Street and create space for community programs in the middle of the structure.

The federal government is poised to contribute $10 million toward the community spaces, sources told CBC News on Thursday.

Dan Vandal, the MP for Saint Boniface-Saint Vital and the federal minister responsible for Prairies Economic Development Canada, has called a press conference for Friday morning at Portage Place.

The federal contribution would add Ottawa's support to a project that is already in line for $40 million worth of municipal grants and tax relief and tens of millions more in provincial lease commitments.

City council voted unanimously Thursday in favour of that package of assistance, which includes up to $14 million worth of tax increment financing over 25 years, $10 million worth of housing grants and $16 million worth of infrastructure commitments in and around the property.

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Mayor Scott Gillingham said the development is important, although it won't solve all that ails downtown.

"We're not that there yet. We haven't got everything sorted out," the mayor said before the vote. "But as we keep making these good decisions, incremental progress is being made."

Not all the new property tax revenue generated by the project will be rebated to the developer. The city plans to keep 20 per cent of the new tax revenue and provide True North with the remaining 80 per cent, but won't start remitting this money until the first September after the new residential tower has an occupancy permit and the entire property is reassessed by the city for tax purposes, said a report to council.

The $10 million worth of housing grants will be split into two payments in 2025 and 2026, using federal housing accelerator money, the report says. The money will flow to a new non-profit organization directed by the Southern Chiefs' Organization and True North, which are overseeing the housing component of the project.

Infrastructure development​

The $16 million worth of infrastructure work includes $7.5 million to extend Edmonton Street to the north, $6.5 million to build a new skywalk and upgrade existing sidewalks and $2 million to help build a community drop-in space in the middle of the mall.

City money for the drop-in centre was set aside in the 2023 budget.

The provincial government committed in February to lease space in the health-care tower for 35 years. Premier Wab Kinew said at the time those lease payments will add $77 million to provincial heath-care spending.

The city, province and Ottawa must also finalize their approval of True North's $34.5-million purchase of the parkade below the mall and the rights to build towers above it from The Forks-North Portage Partnership. All three levels of government are stakeholders in the non-profit organization.

The Forks plans to use that money to replace the revenue it will lose once the parkade is sold, the report to council stated.

True North has a separate deal to purchase the mall itself from Vancouver's Spruceland Mall Limited Partnership for an undisclosed price.

 

[meadow_wind]

Sorry about my venting! So tired of all this. I try to keep an open mind, very difficult when you are aware about the control at every turn wherever you go!

Don't worry; same here and same opinion too. I get so frustrated seeing so many people "asleep" but I try not to bother anymore. When possible, I insert some "interesting" subjects just to see their reactions and answers. It gives me clues to know who I might be dealing with. Otherwise, I just go home and keep on with my research.

 

[Natus Videre]

No wonder why a lot of Canadians withdrew their assets and left.

More and more businesses are leaving our country because of too much regulations, too many taxes (even the individual takes a large hit), too much red tape. The policies are meant to keep us here and being bled to death with taxes and controlling all assets we have at their disposal.

If you are an employee or self-employed in Canada, you don't have many fiscal options at your disposal to shield you from taxes. Each year, from January to May, you are basically a government partner, i.e. you work "for free," half of your money is taken away from you in exchange for deteriorating services! It's quite infuriating. Obviously, this "way of life" doesn't just apply to Canada; it's a well-thought-out global plan to keep the masses overwhelmed and stressed so they can't make good decisions.

 

[iamthatis]

The symbolic war in Canada is in full swing. Given the oil and gas speech ban above, I wouldn't be surprised if some bill is tabled making questioning the residential school narrative a hate crime.

Well I'm sad to say I called that one. It's not a bill that's been tabled yet, but with the Lib/NDP

Jamie Sarkonak: The slippery slope reality of criminalizing residential school 'denialism'

It’s pretty hard to trust the system when its major components get basic facts wrong — and insist on sticking to them years later

nationalpost.com

On Thursday, NDP MP Leah Gazan tabled a bill that would send the whole spectrum of residential school “denialists” — and downplayers — to jail for up to two years. Anyone who is caught publicly “misrepresenting facts” about residential schools, or “condoning, denying, downplaying or justifying” them, in the course of wilfully promoting hatred against Indigenous peoples, could be found guilty if Bill C-413 passes.

 

[Voyageur]

This is a post/video/interview by Dr. Trozzi from Ontario. The discussion largely deals with a Dr. Kustka (practicing for near 30 years), who suddenly runs up against a ponorized College of Physicians of Ontario (which could have just as well been the College of Physicians of BC, or in other provinces that I'm not sure of exactly. And yet in Canada, the Colleges seemed to have been pushed over like dominos, as the Colleges fell under weight of the spell of policies or Acts of the government different health departments/ministries demands).

The mechanisms of the case were similar to other doctors, although here crossing lines that delve into the patient doctor private relationship (Trozzi points out that patients are starting not to tell physicians certain things as they are beginning to figure out the shallowness of the relationship when Colleges can demand anything). Perhaps as a patient (Trozzi hints at this), it might be a good question to ask one's doctor, such as, if your College asked for my medical information, would you give it to them? What would they say? Some patients don't even want their doctor entering some of their medical information - which used to be in an office file and now, in many cases, is directly connected to a ministry electronic database.

Dr. Kustka's situation was born when she provided a 6 year old girl with a mask exemption (which was in her right to do), only to have a Girl Scout leader notify the College. The College became unhinged and demanded the medical file on who this patient was (and her parents would be securitized by default), along with the evidence of why the exemption. Krustka rightly refused, and then the College demanded all her medical files from 'all' her patients.

The medical College tyrants have not backed down, and the Canadian Medical Protective Association (CMPA), who doctors pay annual fees to, refused to mediate or enter the discussion at all (i.e., go seek private legal representation).

This is a Covid thread piece, however, it goes to the core of our times and askes some hard questions. In Canada, it was said that only 0.01% of doctors stood up and said no. That is not good.

Patient Rights and Confidentiality: Dead in Ontario?

The story of Dr Kustka reveals the erosion of patient rights and medical integrity in Ontario.

www.drtrozzi.news

Edit: one will note if connecting to the video directly, that Dr. Trozzi has interviewed a great many know people, with some interesting topics.

 

[meadow_wind]

What's new on the menu for Canada these days? Mmmm, let's see... Bill C-293!
I've dug 2 opinion columnists to see what it's all about.

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/11/01/loi-c-293-de-justin-trudeau--un-totalitarisme-sanitaire

Pandemic: Bill C-293 risks leading us towards a dangerous health totalitarianism
Justin Trudeau is clearly the worst plague Canada has known since Confederation! And if he stubbornly clings to power despite the tsunami of protests, it is probably because we still have a few freedoms that he has not locked away. I have already denounced Bill C-63 on so-called “online harms,” because it is fundamentally a Pandora’s box that will destroy freedom of expression and democracy.

But Trudeau seems to have more ambitions. A member of his government tabled private member’s bill C-293 on “pandemic prevention and preparedness.” This bill has made its way through the House of Commons, where it has already passed third reading. It is currently being studied in the Senate...

The title of the bill is bombastic. But with its vague language and numerous imprecisions, its quintessence is authoritarian and arbitrary.
Thus, under the pretext of “prevention and preparation” for future pandemics, the State will be able to “regulate commercial activities likely to contribute to the risk of a pandemic, including industrial farming.”

Could the State ban meat consumption as a “prevention” measure? It seems so. But what does it matter since the law also provides that the State will interfere in our plates by promoting “alternative proteins,” including lab-grown meat and insects.

The law also states that the state may “phase out commercial activities that contribute disproportionately to the risk of a pandemic.” By definition, any activity that requires human or animal interaction contributes to the risk of a pandemic. So, by “prevention,” could the state discretionarily ban any activity it deems risky? To be sure, the law provides no safeguards.

Ce projet de loi veut-il nous rendre tous végans?

POINT DE VUE / Le projet de loi C-293 risque de perturber non seulement nos chaînes d'approvisionnement alimentaires, mais aussi la base même du choix personnel dans notre alimentation, transformant ce que nous mangeons en une question régie par la loi plutôt que par la préférence ou même la...

www.lesoleil.com

It is almost inconceivable that Bill C-293 remains largely unknown to Canadians, given its potential to significantly expand government powers in response to future pandemics. A detailed reading of the bill not only sows confusion about its intentions; it reveals a troubling spirit at its core.
(...)
The ease with which this legislation was passed highlights a concerning disconnect and dysfunction in our Parliament, where normally proposals of this magnitude would be subject to extensive debate and scrutiny.

Currently, the Senate is receiving over 120 letters per day from concerned groups and citizens, all concerned about the broad regulatory scope of Bill C-293 and its implications.

One of the most alarming aspects of Bill C-293 is the discretion it would grant to officials to close agricultural facilities without clear and objective criteria.
(...)
As it currently stands, Bill C-293 poses significant risks to the stability and sustainability of Canada’s vital agriculture and agri-food sector. The Senate must reject this bill outright.

Beyond its implications for food policy, Bill C-293 also reflects broader concerns about the state of our democracy and the level of public awareness in Canada.

The fact that this bill has remained under the radar until now speaks volumes about the current state of public engagement and education. If more Canadians were informed, there is no doubt that this bill would face overwhelming opposition.

 

[Lyndi]

Sending email to the Senate to add to the hundreds they get. How, how, how did this get far. Thanks for this update meadow_wind.

 

[Voyageur]

How, how, how did this get far.

Like other commonwealth countries, the U.S. and on and on, it is coming from outside: ponerization, parasitically infecting the inside institutions.

For anyone who works, did work or knows people that work within said institutions, there are the true believers or those who look with horror at what the instructions have become. The latter don't know how to change it (perhaps by their being there they can help at some point), as the fear of saying anything, or leaving, stays their hand. Really sad.

The below may capture the issues if looked at in as wider context, on all levels.

Q: (Toronto group) Canada is still punishing the unvaxxed with unemployment, travel bans, even denying medical transplants. Why is Canada the outlier compared to the other countries, and will this end soon?

A: It will end when Canadians say so.

Q: (L) Well, why is Canada doing this?

A: Experiment on "tough" people.

Q: (L) So they're trying to see how far they can push people who are reputed to be tough and not pushable.

 

[Benjamin]

What's new on the menu for Canada these days? Mmmm, let's see... Bill C-293!

Oh, they're serious about this one. The current status of C-293, "An Act respecting pandemic prevention and preparedness," is at Second Reading in the Senate.




Instead of making two posts, I'm just going to lump this into one.

There is a Scottish journalist named Jack Webster who immigrated to Vancouver after WWII (rose to be a Major in the British Army). He had a show called Webster! where he would conduct interviews in his hard-as-nails style. I think I remember seeing him back in the early 80's when I was a kid, though I didn't pay any attention. He is not like today's tv hosts!

I ran into two of his old interviews on Canada and Khalistan. The first one, posted five years ago, is from Oct. 26, 1981, and you only need to watch up to 18:54 (after that are interviews with three feminists). It is an interview with Mohinder Paul Singh, a Sikh priest in a local temple who is fighting for a new Sikh nation called the Republic of Khalistan. And just as a reminder, this was recorded while Pierre Trudeau was PM for the second time.

@ 11:10


Webster: Why should Canada allow any group to build itself up, on what could be illegal immigrants, to plot separatism in India from Canada? Why should they?


Singh: It is not separatism in that sense as Indian authorities might look at. The situation is Sikhs fighting a battle, launching a movement for a justifiable, a just cause, a just establishment of their entity in India on Indian subcontinent.


Webster: (I) don’t argue.


Singh: And people outside Punjab, outside India, out of sympathy, being a member of Sikh community, is it their nature arriving to sympathize with them or not?


Webster: Just a minute. Right now your consuls for Khalistan are issuing so-called passports, so-called currency, setting up the appearance of a separate state here [Canada]. We can't tolerate this, can we?


Singh: Because the situation is, when some movement is launched it has to [belong?] for so many corners. (?)


Webster: So, you're going…


Singh: It’s a strategy. It’s a strategy.


Webster: So, you’re going to launch it here?


Singh: Uhhh, I am not in the picture. I am not well acquainted with what the developments are going on.

The second one, posted 3 days ago, says it's from 1983 but responders post that it has to be from at least 1984/pre-Air India bombing of 1985. It has Manmohan Singh of the IYSF (International Youth Sikh Federation) and Ujjal Dosanjh, a lawyer and politician (and later "Sikh traitor"), who is well spoken and intelligent, as opposed to Mohinder who admits to Webster of being a zealot and fundamentalist. Good interview.


(I've bookmarked the video to start at the right spot since the first part is a hacked version of the above interview.)

 

[meadow_wind]

Oh, they're serious about this one.

They are always serious when it's about doing nefarious agendas, hurting people, corruption, filling their own pockets, etc. and it's always with the cover of being benevolent or fixing a problem for the better of humanity... It's beyond frustrating.