Canning meat/what Equipment is needed, how much canning is necessary
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Seppo Ilmarinen said:
Looks perfect to me ... buy a few and have a practice run. Leave them on the shelf for a few days and then check if the seal is still ok.
After that ... go mad!
Thanks for answers psyche and niclebleu. I'm getting half of pig from organic farm so there's some canning to do! :)
I had a bad experience with these kind of jars (II bought them at 2,50 Euros), which puzzled me because my mother was using the same many years ago with good results. As I took the lid of my canner pressure off, my jars looked perfectly clean but as I turned them upside down, some liquid started leaking out of them. I think the jars I got were not of the same quality, i.e. I found their sealing rings to be very rigid and much more flatter than the older one. As a side note, I don´t like very much buying at Ikea any more as they have been lowering so much their prices on kitchen material, besides other articles, that of course quality isn´t the same it was long time ago, at least in Spain. Maybe you could try starting with only a couple of jars, just in case.
Seppo Ilmarinen said:
The only negative side of those jars is that compared to the 'recommended' jars, you can't as easily see if the sealing has been compromised. In the other ones, it's easy to see if the depression of the lid has popped up. I don't know how one can be sure there's a vacuum inside with these jars with a clamp.
Goemon_
The Living Force
The cheaper jars I have find so far are those ones : _http://www.bouteilles-et-bocaux.com/shop/Pots-de-confiture-et-bocaux/860ml-pot-conserve-avec-twist-off-82.html?XTCsid=4665b811496cb5276e0eb23614d9ea9a
I have order 225 for a total of 184 € (including VAT and shiping) . I haven't received them yet.
They say you can re-use the lid, but can't say how many times.
They ship in severals european country but maybe not all.
For Finland and for the same quantity that must be 40 € more or so.
I have order 225 for a total of 184 € (including VAT and shiping) . I haven't received them yet.
They say you can re-use the lid, but can't say how many times.
They ship in severals european country but maybe not all.
For Finland and for the same quantity that must be 40 € more or so.
Aragorn said:
Okay, if it's not possible to be 100% sure about the vacuum then maybe I shouldn't take any risks.
Goemon_ said:
I checked these out. For 100 jars overall cost will be 125€ and it's still less than any jar I've found here. So those lids have inner seal and are good for canning meat? If so, I think I'll go with these, thanks!
Aragorn said:
My mother used this type of jars all her life - and I think that it is actually very easy to check, if there's a vacuum inside - open the clamp and try to lift the lid off the jar without pulling on the latch of the rubber ring. If you can't pull the lid off the jar like this, there's a strong vacuum inside. If it pops open without too much effort - no go!
I just canned 14 jars yesterday. From now on, I am planning to pack 40-50% meat and the rest is broth since I am eating broth almost with every meals. Also, I am just going to use pints jars, as I figured that the small size jars are easier to handle that we can easily finish eating the contents in a short period of time once we open them.
My partner just built a shelf for all the jars in a dark and cool place in the basement. We are going to try to do 300 jars by the end of this summer. So far, we are doing pretty well. ;)
My partner just built a shelf for all the jars in a dark and cool place in the basement. We are going to try to do 300 jars by the end of this summer. So far, we are doing pretty well. ;)
Seppo Ilmarinen said:
I hope it works out Seppo Ilmarinen, because the cost of jars has been pretty prohibitive in Finland.
Searching around I found this place in Finland, and I wonder what you think - would it be worthwhile to give them a call and see if they would have decent jars for a decent price and maybe get something closer to home?
http://www.savoset.com/index.html?n=21470&Lasipullon+korkki
Breton said:
Hi Breton,
Since I hadn't put my order yet I called there today and asked their prices for few jars, here's what I found out:
720ml jar total cost is 1,35€, minimum order is 130 pieces.
440ml jar total cost is 0.93€, minimum order is 80 pieces.
1500ml jar total cost is 2,41€, minimum order is 21 pieces.
Then there is shipping fee of 42€ but you can also pick the jars from their shop in Turku. I ended up ordering from there because there's always risks that jars will break during shipping and I thought it's easier to deal with domestic company if that happens.
Seppo Ilmarinen said:
Ok that is not too bad considering being in Finland. I suppose those total jar costs included lid (or else would be kind of useless).
What size(s) did you order?
I think I will consider driving there to get some when I have got my canner set-up.
Breton said:
Yes, it included lids too and they said the jars and lids are proper for canning meat. I ordered those 440ml jars, mainly because it had suitable amount of jars in one batch.
So far, I have canned about 120 half liter jars of bone broth. Most of the broth that I have made will have a bit of a residue of meat particles that get through the strainer, which I would think is normal (and good). But I'm wondering if that could be an issue when canning the broth because, as far as I know, broth is processed for 20 to 25 minutes and meat should be processed for 75 to 90 minutes. Could the "meat particles" in the broth be subject to bacteria because the process time was 20 to 25 minutes instead of 75 to 90 minutes? Should this be a concern? Any thoughts on this?
