Cathedrals and churches

Tartarian fireplaces and chimneys

Tartar fireplaces were ornamentally magnificent, as were the buildings in which they lived. These fireplaces were used as a kind of pride, revealing the intricate architecture of the homeowner's taste to visitors and relatives.

Unlike the way we use fireplaces today, fireplaces themselves aren't designed to burn anything. Chimneys weren't used to remove smoke from the fireplace and outside the house, and reinforcement in the structure of the home wasn't primarily used to provide any structural support.

The reinforcing bar in the house was connected to the dome of the tower at the top of the roof (which was probably filled with various substances such as mercury, radium or quartz crystal and metal pillars protruding from the top and sides of the building. All this metal was then connected to metal wallpaper found inside the original Tartar fireplaces and chimneys.

Tartar fireplaces weren't designed to burn anything. The metal back plate inside the fireplace and chimney was connected to the armature, the upper dome of the tower and the outer metal pillars which concentrated the power of the ether and focused that free energy on the metal back plate inside the chimney which ionized the air inside the chimney. This ionized air, together with the rise and fall of hot and cold air currents, created an electric vacuum under pressure inside the chimney. During the winter, the chimneys acted as electric vacuum cleaners under pressure that radiate trapped heat inside the chimney through the fireplace.

During the summer, the process would reverse and the fireplace and ventilation ducts would suck heat into the fireplace and air ducts connected to the inside of the chimney from inside the house and through ionized air from ethereal electrically charged metal the back plate inside the chimney would force heat to heat the chimney.

Like crosses on the tops of churches, cathedrals and mosques… metal pillars protruding from the tops and sides of homes and other Tartar buildings acted as ethereal electric antennas that harnessed the power of the ether and directed that free energy into the chimney.

Ventilation shafts (air ducts) located in the premises of the house were connected to the chimney.

The reinforcing bar, the dome at the top of the roof and the metal pillars protruding from the sides of the house acted like a spider's web, attracting ether and concentrating etheric energy throughout the home. Much like spiders are able to grow and survive without food and water as long as they touch their web, Tartars were able to grow and survive without food and water as long as they remained inside their etheric home filled with energy.


How do they know that this was the true purpose of those fireplaces if they do not know how to make them work like that?
 

How do they know that this was the true purpose of those fireplaces if they do not know how to make them work like that?
A more mundane explanation is that non-functional fireplaces were included in expensive mansions as a design choice - it just "looks good" to have a fireplace like that.

These ideas about a hyper-advanced "Tartaria" in the recent centuries seem to be mostly disinformation or a deliberate psyop to muddy the waters regarding Atlantean history - which does seem to have been hyper-advanced in some ways.
 
A more mundane explanation is that non-functional fireplaces were included in expensive mansions as a design choice - it just "looks good" to have a fireplace like that.

That would make sense only if they had an alternative heating system.

These ideas about a hyper-advanced "Tartaria" in the recent centuries seem to be mostly disinformation or a deliberate psyop to muddy the waters regarding Atlantean history - which does seem to have been hyper-advanced in some ways.

I don't think that this has anything to do with Atlantis because Atlantis is an ancient civilization and these buildings are more recent. I think it muddies the waters of the lost knowledge of recent civilization.
 
That would make sense only if they had an alternative heating system.
Coal furnaces were widely used back then. They were most likely removed at some point in old mansions.

I don't think that this has anything to do with Atlantis because Atlantis is an ancient civilization and these buildings are more recent.
Popularizing a wrong theory about a supposed very advanced civilization in the recent past discredits research into actual very advanced civilizations in the more distant past. And just like "flat earth" this psyop also creates unnecessary confusion and tension among people who started to wake up and question everything (divide and conquer, basically).
 
Popularizing a wrong theory about a supposed very advanced civilization in the recent past discredits research into actual very advanced civilizations in the more distant past. And just like "flat earth" this psyop also creates unnecessary confusion and tension among people who started to wake up and question everything (divide and conquer, basically).

I think that research of more distant civilizations is a waste of time anyway, for the most part, because the further back in time that we go, the less information we will find. And for that reason, the more recent ones are potentially much more fruitful because they have left much more data to analyze.
 
I think that research of more distant civilizations is a waste of time anyway, for the most part, because the further back in time that we go, the less information we will find.
That is kind of a strange argument. Just because there is less to find certainly does not mean that it is "a waste of time". What we do find about the very ancient past can be very profound, eg. that very advanced civilizations existed and were destroyed or that modern humans apparently existed for hundreds of thousands of years.
 
That is kind of a strange argument. Just because there is less to find certainly does not mean that it is "a waste of time". What we do find about the very ancient past can be very profound, eg. that very advanced civilizations existed and were destroyed or that modern humans apparently existed for hundreds of thousands of years.

It can be profound, but not much practically useful. We can find much more useful things in studying recent times than ancient times. People should spend their time studying these things proportionally to the amount of information that can be found. But they are not doing that. They spend far too much time studying ancient civilizations which left us with just some pieces of rocks and far less studying recent civilizations from which we have a lot of written records. But just like in astronomy where it is easier to observe distant galaxies than some obscured object in our solar system, often is easier to observe remains of the ancient civilizations than something that is much closer to us in time. And it both cases, what is closer to us could be much more impactful on our civilization than those distant things.
 
We can find much more useful things in studying recent times than ancient times.
Maybe, but that is a far cry from claiming that studying the ancient past is "a waste of time anyway, for the most part". And I don't know who you think is studying the ancient past much more than the recent past - it is another very general statement with little validity in my view. Some people do that, others don't. Some or many do not study history at all.

And this discussion seems to be turning into arguing for the sake of arguing, so I will leave it at that.
 
I think that research of more distant civilizations is a waste of time anyway, for the most part, because the further back in time that we go, the less information we will find.
I understand that in the sense that we cannot do much with it to put together a more concrete story but fall back on theories and speculation which seems to coalesce into academic fact. I guess investing a lot of resources into the search has to pay off somehow so it is rubber stamped into fact.

the more recent ones are potentially much more fruitful because they have left much more data to analyze.
These, I think, are coming up to more resistance because findings may contradict the existing narrative to whatever degree. A lot of people and organizations may stand to lose in some way. FWIW
 
I understand that in the sense that we cannot do much with it to put together a more concrete story but fall back on theories and speculation which seems to coalesce into academic fact. I guess investing a lot of resources into the search has to pay off somehow so it is rubber stamped into fact.

Yes, it's the same as what Laura said about studying 4D. We can get some approximate ideas about 4D, but it is so much beyond our grasp that it is much better for us to focus on our world than trying to understand all the intricate details of 4D. Of course, it's always good to have a good overview of cosmic or ancient past things, but our present reality and time should be our main focus.

These, I think, are coming up to more resistance because findings may contradict the existing narrative to whatever degree. A lot of people and organizations may stand to lose in some way. FWIW

Of course, and you can say the same about findings about ancient civilizations, hence the many coverups in that regard. And in that case, the control is very easy. All they have to do is to ban further excavations, and they're done. But with more recent cultures, it is more difficult to make a cover-up because we also have many written records. So in that case, they have to make a disinformation campaign. And that is, in my opinion, a goal of current tartarian theories, to discredit the research of more recent times, not the research of Atlantis, which was already not progressing much.
 
Do you mind sharing a bit more of your thinking?

Your comment didn't make it clear to me why you posted this.

I posted it because stellar mentioned it:

Gives an interesting perspective to many old world structures and buildings, huge fireplaces and their chimneys, castle towers used for defensive lookouts and archers, etc.

Since I never heard about this before, I thought that there are probably others on the forum who also never heard about it and might want to know what is stellar talking about. Is there something unusual about those fireplaces? It could be, it's just that I don't trust tartarian proponents in their explanations.
 
Since I never heard about this before, I thought that there are probably others on the forum who also never heard about it and might want to know what is stellar talking about.

Was there a reason you didn't ask stellar to elaborate and explain what she meant?

Just trying to understand why you didn't ask her about it directly.
 
Was there a reason you didn't ask stellar to elaborate and explain what she meant?

Just trying to understand why you didn't ask her about it directly.

I didn't ask because I understood what she was implying. She already expressed that she believes in tartarian theory in another thread. And in that post she implied that if the ancient people knew how to build wind catchers for air cooling, then it is possible for them to had knowledge about other advance stuff. But the difference is that air cooling obviously works even today, but I don't see that anyone showed that air heating works today, as proposed by tartarian theory.

I do believe that a lot of interesting things can be discovered by studying that time period, and there are things that don't fit in with official historical narrative, but it would require much more in-depth study than what tartarian proponents are currently doing.
 
Q: (L) I have a couple of quick questions before we get into Ark's involved ones. The first question is: In this book, 'Fingerprints of the Gods,' the guy [Graham Hancock] talks about what the Maya call 'The Suns' or world ages. The first sun's duration was 4008 years; the second was 4010 years; the third was 4081; the fourth 4026; and the fifth and current sun is supposed to end in 2012 on the 23rd of December, and it began in the fourth millennium BC of the Christian calendar. So, what I would like to ask is: are these suns, as the Maya described them, are these the periods of revolution of the companion star of our Sun?

A: Well, this could be the case, or, it may be something else. Or it could be a combination of factors/events. It would not be prudent of us to provide you with a direct, definitive answer at this juncture. Signposts will provide the answers as you go along, if you are patient and open minded.

Q: It also says here that on this pyramid, at the time of the Spring and Autumn equinoxes, combined patterns of light and dark combine to create the illusion of a giant serpent undulating on the northern staircase. On each occasion the illusion lasts for 3 hours and 22 minutes exactly. What was this optical illusion created to convey?

A: Worship of serpentine deity.

Q: Was it created to convey or produce any other effect other than worship?

A: The key is in the reading of the geometric cycle.

Q: On page 80, the book talks about these statues at Tiahuanaco on Lake Titicaca. It says: 'Carved in red sandstone, worn and ancient beyond reckoning, the statue stand about 6 feet high and portrays a humanoid, androgynous being with massive eyes and lips. In it's right hand it clutches something resembling a knife with a wavy blade like an Indonesian kris. In it's left hand is an object like a hinged and case-bound book. From the top of this book, however, protruded a device which had been inserted into it as though into a sheath. From the waist down, the figure seemed to be clad in a garment of fish scales.' Okay, there is another statue with an object in its left hand that is like a case bound book, but from this one protrudes a forked handle. The right hand object was roughly cylindrical, narrow in the center and bigger at each end. It appeared to have several different parts. I would like to know what these objects, or devices, carved into these ancient statues represented?

A: Conductor.

Q: What did these conductors conduct? Were these the sound machines that you have described previously?

A: No.

Q: What did they conduct?

A: Quartzine energy from atmospheric source. [Atlantean crystals?]

Q: What was this energy used for?

A: All.

Q: Well you have described a lot of things that did all kinds of things... the pyramid, Stonehenge...

A: When one harnesses free energy, no limitations need apply.

Q: Why were these beings depicted with these fish-like garments?

A: Reptoids have that genetic profile to varying degrees.

Q: According to the Sumerian traditions, this was like the god Oannes. In the night time, he would plunge back into the sea, but in the daytime he would converse with men, giving them insight into letters and sciences and every kind of art. But, it was noted that he was never observed to eat. It says that he taught men how to construct houses, temples, to compile laws, and explained to them the principles of geometric knowledge. He made them distinguish the seeds of the earth and made them gather fruits. In short, he instructed them in everything that would tend to soften manners and humanize mankind. From that time, so universal were his instructions, that nothing has been added materially in the way of improvement. The surviving images of Oannes on Babylonian and Assyrian reliefs clearly portray him as a fish man. Is this another similar profile?

A: "El legato."

Q: Was this Oannes fish man similar to the Quinotaur that was supposedly the half-father of the Merovingian royal line?

A: Only if one considers losses in the translative quarry.

Q: Well, quin is five. Does it relate somehow to the pentagon, the pentagram, to five dimensional space?

A: No.

Q: Here it says: The Spanish Conquistadores and missionaries destroyed nearly everything that we could possibly use to learn about the South American civilizations. A sixteenth century eye-witness says that there was an emerald idol that was completely fantastic. Father Benito took this idol and had it ground up, stirred the powder in water, poured it on the ground and stomped on it. Cortez was given two circular calendars, one of gold and the other silver, as big as wagon wheels, with all kinds of hieroglyphs on them, which he immediately had melted down and cast into ingots. 'All over Central America, vast repositories of knowledge, accumulated since ancient times, were painstakingly gathered, heaped up, and burned by the zealous Catholic missionaries. In July, 1562, for example, in the main square of Monte, in the Yucatan, Father Diego de Landa burned thousands of Maya manuscripts, paintings and hieroglyphs inscribed on rolled up deerskins. He said: 'We found great numbers of books written in the characters of the Indians, but since they contained nothing but superstitions of the Devil, we burned them all, which the natives took most grievously, and gave them great pain.' Hancock says: 'Not only the natives should have felt this pain, but anyone and everyone then and now who would like to know the truth about the past. Diego de Landa participated in Spain's Satanic mission to wipe clear the memory banks of Central America. In the marketplace at Texcoco, they built a vast bonfire of astronomical documents, paintings, manuscripts, hieroglyphic texts, which the Conquistadores had forcibly extracted from the Aztecs during the previous eleven years. As this irreplaceable storehouse of knowledge and history went up in flames, a chance to shake off some of the collective amnesia that clouds our understanding was lost to mankind forever.' So, having read this sickening description about 'Spain's Satanic Mission' to destroy the past, I would like to have a comment on what was motivating the Catholic Church, the Catholic Missionaries, and Spain itself, since Spain has been designated as one of the areas where 'artifacts' may be still found. Could you comment?

A: You should not need commentary, as we have told you much about the desires of 4th density STS to obscure truth by manipulating 3rd density STS.

Q: Well, yes. But, Lord have Mercy! It just makes a person sick to think about it... all of this and the Library at Alexandria too! Was this the kind of stuff that was being done in Europe during the so-called 'Dark Ages?'

A: Yes.


Perhaps Europeans also knew about this technology?
 
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