Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[Joe]

Maybe these two statements sum up the result (whether intended or not) of the Kirk assassination.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969901870937411727

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969865121754394842

 

[Ricardo]

Maybe these two statements sum up the result (whether intended or not) of the Kirk assassination.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969901870937411727

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969865121754394842

Guess we'll see if Camacho Trump is doing another "crazy Ivan" with regards to Religion, and given his close family ties , may not be quite as some Americans will envision it , and even further how much of a pull he might have at doing it, as events have showed him not to be as free to do as he wills. ( my 2x cents)

 

[Ruth]

* Robinson was never on that roof. The individual in the stairwell and roof security camera footage was a look-alike who had no weapon and was there for one sole purpose: to make Robinson into a patsy.

There is also a posibility that it was him on the roof, with no gun (if he'd been told to drop it off at the location it was found, prior to getting up on the roof), but he did leave a screwdriver up there (I wonder if they tested that for prints?). This would only work if the shot came from another position and not up on that particular roof. It would also mean that the gun found, never fired. Is there a way of testing that? Also, having thought of that, could it have been fired on a prior occassion, just not on that one?

Honestly this is like playing "Cludo"! Nothing is simple or straight forward and yet it was in front of multiple people. In the end it looks like a conspiracy.

 

[Ruth]

I apologise, I could have written that better.
To be precise, I think the order of consideration for the type of shot (as a basic hierarchy for beginning each analysis) should be as follows:
1) shot came from the front, the wound we see is an entry wound
2) the shot came from the left, the wound we see is an exit wound
3) the shot came from the front, the wound we see is an exit wound

Hence, lower on the list of consideration.
Hope that makes it clear.

Sure! The shot has to come from somewhere, but there are other factors to be questioned (in my mind). The two other most important ones I think are: type of weapon, and type of bullet. Some experienced shooters have questioned all three!

1. Not the right weapon,
2. Not the right bullet,
3. Not the right direction - therefore not the right shooter!

Once you get these three sorted with some degree of certaintly (which is obviously not going to come from official sources if they were in any way involved or implicated), then you can explain the behaviour of the bullet once it hits it's target without having to resort to 'divine intervention' or 'magic bullets', cool though they are. Come to think of it, these two explanations might be used as a distraction?

I think the only thing that anyone can agree upon with any degree of certainty was that there was only one shooter and only one shot. There's a lot of disagreement on the internet about the three points above, mostly by experienced shooters.

 

[JEEP]

About that rifle photo: Why is the rifle on a cardboard box? Was it left in the box by the shooter?

I thought Tyler said something about putting the rifle in a cardboard box, but where did it come from and when did it happen? He obviously didn't have it when he was fleeing with the rifle in the towel. Was the box just laying there by the chicken coop? Was it at the preplanned drop off rather than just opportunistic? Certainly can't trust anything that's been said is actually true. I'm somewhat suspicious of the people whose homes were involved with the video and the rifle.

I think the bolded part is important. If the masses will not accept the cover story being put out (unlike what happened in past assassinations) and continue to investigate and demand the deep state perpetrators to be held accountable, there is less chance that the next stage of their plan will be able to manifest.

And can't that be said about the Epstein situation - he didn't kill himself and release the files! This latest distraction is helping to push it out of the public eye, and how likely that another even more sensational distraction is in the works to push the Kirk assassination out as well?!

 

[Approaching Infinity]

So Alex Jones spoke with Andrew Kolvet, and he (the surgeon?) specified that what happened was that the bullet went in at an angle, coming *down* into his body, then ricocheted from within the body upwards, where they then found the bullet. Maybe another instance of what @Niall was talking about - releasing tidbits to then retroactively get their story straight?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969612510635704750

Jones said pretty much the same thing, in a bit more detail, on his show (bullet entered neck at slight angle, deflected by spine toward heart/ribs, where it fragmented, one of which was found in the shoulder.):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969905525249749237

FWIW, this is a crazy story Grok directed me to, involving an AK47 (about half the power of a .30-06):

Atypical gunshot injury to the right side of the face with the bullet lodged in the carotid sheath: a case report - PMC

Gunshot injuries of the head and neck from the AK-47 rifle (a common assault rifle, submachine gun type) are a significant contributor to morbidity and mortality among civilians in Sub-Saharan Africa. They may cause significant damage to the closely ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

We present an unusual case of gunshot injury with an atypical bullet entry wound, profound injury to the face, lodgment in the right carotid sheath, and 'wandering’; a first of its kind in East Africa.

 

[Cosmos]

Some have suggested in the language of religion that “the devil has overplayed his hand“. I can’t help but feel that this might actually be what happened, or at least I hope so. What do you think?

I watched almost the whole memorial yesterday except the final words of Trump. What I found interesting is that there was almost no words of revenge against “the left“ although some might have tried to frame it in that way. As a whole it seemed like a large funeral/church gathering to me. Somehow it sounds/feels like a revival of coming back (or closer) to spirituality to me. And at times I couldn’t help to feel grateful and hopeful for some of the qualities humans possess in dark hours.

 

[Cosmos]

Maybe this is “the event“ that the C‘s predicted “that will reveal the man behind the curtain“ because of a “miscalculation“?

We already had many other events though that could fit that statement as well. And maybe it isn’t one singular event but a bunch of them.

 

[Bluegazer]

Although the idea of a shockwave "from below" doesn't seem impossible considering the movement of the shirt. At the very least, maybe we should consider different possibilities and that whoever planned this thing, ignoring some "cosmic angle" for the moment, might have done it in a more sophisticated way than we think, anticipating the "dot connecting" spree in the internet age.

What if it was some kind of airgun/air rifle at close range? Yes, I'm speculating, but at very close range and even at low speed, it can cause fatal damage.

https://airgunranger.com/what-can-an-air-gun-penetrate/

Can An Airgun Penetrate A Human Skull?

Yes, if you shoot a person at very close range, the round could penetrate the skull and even kill the person. Likewise, a bb or pellet can cause bone fractures in other parts of the body if it is shot. So, never shoot a pellet gun or BB gun at another person as this could lead to severe injury or death.

Can An Airgun Penetrate A Human Eye?​

Yes, an air rifle can penetrate a human eye and cause severe eye damage. This is why it is important to always wear safety glasses or goggles while shooting air guns and to never point the gun at another person.

Can An Airgun Penetrate Human Skin?​

Yes, a pellet gun can penetrate human skin quite easily, even at far distances. According to the U.S. National Institute of Health, a .177 air gun round can penetrate human skin if it achieves 331 FPS (feet per second), which is far lower than the average of 700-900 FPS produced by an airgun.

Even if the bb or pellet does not pierce the skin, it will cause a significant amount of pain to the victim. So, do not shoot a BB, pellet, or any other gun in the direction of another person or you risk seriously injuring them.

Compressed air. Think about it, that can produce a shock wave in a T-shirt. And if you aim at a soft part of the body (the neck) from a distance of about a meter and a half, you can cause a fatal injury. Years ago, I had the opportunity to use one of those air rifles. And the size of the chamber where the compressed air is stored is quite small.

 

[mkrnhr]

As a whole it seemed like a large funeral/church gathering to me. Somehow it sounds/feels like a revival of coming back (or closer) to spirituality to me

I would say it depends. The devil is in the details. What spirituality are we talking about in this case? If it is the worship of money it's business as usual. If Christianity, which one? The one worshiping the superior race? Or the demonic egregor of the ancient testament? The same words can mean different things to different people. Satanism can also be called spirituality "from a certain point of view". OSIT

 

[Ruth]

At the very least, it shows that they're feeling the heat and responding to public pressure. However, I don't have any faith that they'll actually deliver by (eventually) putting all the evidence on the table and answering every question to the best of their ability.

It can't be easy running one of the most corrupt, unreliable and shady organisations in America. If you were a decent guy, a. You wouldn't know what you're getting yourself into and b. What could you do about it once there? The people are definately fed up.

 

[Ruth]

Legit or not, the rifle would've had to have been boxed as evidence to be shipped to the nearest forensics lab, both to avoid contamination and preserve any loose parts.

I hope they put it in plastic first! Maybe the whole thing, towel included!