Chemtrails? CONtrails? Strange skies...

sleepyvinny Wrote:

"without the ability to chemically analyse the stuff its impossible to draw any conclusions, unfortunately."

Well you would think some one would analyse it and say what it definitely is wouldnt you, seeing how the govt has our security and health at the top of its priorities ...not.

I mean what if it was a bio attack, a new weapon,cloud bomb, a release of avian flu thingees......

probably pollen...Ha!
 
Um, maybe its just me, but couldn't you put some under a high school microscope and see if it looks like this:

pollen.jpg


or maybe this:

pollen.jpg
 
Normally the winds blow in the direction from england in the direction of denmark....not the other way any wind weather experts out there.
 
sleepyvinny said:
interesting. my car is covered in the dust - its dirty yellow-ish I suppose (more just dirty!), but then it often gets a bit like that these days and I just assumed it was fallout from the chemtrails which have been heavy and absolutely relentless over the last couple of weeks. maybe there's a connection?
without the ability to chemically analyse the stuff its impossible to draw any conclusions, unfortunately.
chemtrails?? youre not serious. its POLLEN! its spring!!!!!!!! wooo hooo spring.. and allergies! haha
 
pescado wrote

"Chemtrails?? youre not serious. its POLLEN! its spring!!!!!!!! wooo hooo spring.. and allergies! haha"

SleepyVinny said that there had been Chemtrails,not that the yellow cloud was chemtrails.Also the so called Experts used the word "probably" many times in there quotes not definites.Probably is such a lazy attitude dont you think?
 
yeah, I guess it could be pollen. However there is a lot of dust from polution all the year round. Most of the vegetation-related dust here comes in late summer from harvesting the arable crops, rather than springtime pollen. probably (being vague again :-) ) what I'm experienceing is nothing to do with the 'mega-cloud' in the article above, and is more a part of the 'normal' dust. but I wouldn't rule it out. Like they say, its only "probably" pollen. Too many variables: That's how the PTB like it - keep us guessing :-(
 
pescado said:
sleepyvinny said:
interesting. my car is covered in the dust - its dirty yellow-ish I suppose (more just dirty!), but then it often gets a bit like that these days and I just assumed it was fallout from the chemtrails which have been heavy and absolutely relentless over the last couple of weeks. maybe there's a connection?
without the ability to chemically analyse the stuff its impossible to draw any conclusions, unfortunately.
chemtrails?? youre not serious. its POLLEN! its spring!!!!!!!! wooo hooo spring.. and allergies! haha
Is pollen green too? Cuz my truck was covered in green dust for about a week.
 
I am almost convinced that we are dealing with pollen. The article adds that it is "probably" pollen from birch trees. Maybe this "probably" simply reflects the fact that there's many more trees that produce pollen.

Because of the exceptionally long winter, whereby the flowering of many trees has been postponed, the release of pollen has been packed together in a shorter time span. There has been an exceptionally high amount of pollen from birch, oak, and especially many fir trees. For those latter the exceptionally long winter has been more "productive" as many firs have been planted (also in a temperate climate) and are not growing in their natural "niche". In my small garden there are firs that even had a different color as the previous years because this time around they were fully covered with flowers.
The weather produced some local thunderstorms that were rather violent at times. This can produce stormy winds in the surroundings of such local storm centers that would release sudden bursts of pollen without them being rained down. The wind direction has been good as well, blowing it across the North Sea from east to west.
I've had my car covered as well, but I haven't put it under the microscope yet.
 
Found this at http://thegalacticpost.blogspot.com/ (it will move to the archives after a few days), which is a site that promotes disinformational "Galactic Federation" channeling. Real or CoIntelPro? Any thoughts? Maybe someone here can verify what he says about the actual work or the pecking order among mechanics.
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An Anonymous Email From An Airline Mechanic

For reasons you will understand as you read this I can not divulge my identity.

I am an aircraft mechanic for a major airline. I work at one of our maintenance bases located at a large airport. I have discovered some information that I think you will find important.

First, I should tell you something about the "pecking order" among mechanics. It is important to my story and to the cause to which you have dedicated yourself.

Mechanics want to work on three things. The avionics, the engines, or the flight controls. The mechanics that work on these systems are considered at the top of the "pecking order".

Next come the mechanics that work on the hydraulics and air conditioning systems. Then come the ones who work on the galley and other non-essential systems. But at the very bottom of the list are the mechanics that work on the waste disposal systems.

No mechanic wants to work on the pumps, tanks, and pipes that are used to store the waste from the lavatories. But at every airport where I have worked there are always 2 or 3 mechanics that volunteer to work on the lavatory systems.

The other mechanics are happy to let them do it. Because of this you will have only 2 or 3 mechanics that work on these systems at any one airport. No one pays much attention to these guys and no mechanic socializes with another mechanic who only works on the waste systems.

Fact is, I had never even thought much about this situation until last month. Like most airlines we have reciprocal agreements with the other airlines that fly into this airport. If they have a problem with a plane one of our mechanics will take care of it.

Likewise, if one of our planes has a problem at an airport where the other airline has a maintenance base, they will fix our plane.

One day last month I was called out from our base to work on a plane for another airline. When I got the call the dispatcher did not know what the problem was. When I got to the plane I found out that the problem was in waste disposal system. There was nothing for me to do but to crawl in and fix the problem.

When I got into the bay I realized that something was not right. There were more tanks, pumps, and pipes then should have been there. At first I assumed that the waste disposal system had been changed. It had been about 10 years since I had worked on this particular model of aircraft.

As I tried to find the problem I quickly realized the extra piping and tanks were not connected to the waste disposal system, at all. I had just discovered this when another mechanic from my company showed up. It was one of the mechanics who usually works on this particular type of plane, and I happily turned the job over to him.

As I was leaving I asked him about the extra equipment. He told me to "worry about my end of the plane and let him worry about his end!"

The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring schematic. While I was there I decided to look up the extra equipment I had found. To my amazement the manuals did not show any of the extra equipment I had seen with my own eyes the day before. I even tied in to the manufacturer files and still found nothing. Now I was really determined to find out what that equipment did.

The next week we had three of our planes in our main hanger for periodic inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look at the waste system on one of our planes. With all the mechanics around I figured that no one would notice an extra one on the plane.

Sure enough, the plane I choose had the extra equipment! I began to trace the system of pipes, pumps, and tanks. I found what appeared to be the control unit for the system. It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind.

I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.

The system had 1 large tank and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment, but it looked like the large tank could hold about 50 gallons. The tanks were connected to a fill and drain valve that passed through the fuselage just behind the drain valve for the waste system.

When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.

I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers.

If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires, about the size of your finger, extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces. These are the static discharge wicks. They are used to dissipate the static electric charge that builds up on a plane in flight.

I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks.

These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through the fake wicks. It was while I was on the wing that one of the managers spotted me. He ordered me out of the hanger telling me that my shift was over and I had not been authorized any overtime.

The next couple of days were very busy and I had no time to continue my investigation. Late one afternoon, two days after my discovery, I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork.

About 30 minutes later I was paged to see the General Manager. When I went in his office I found that our union rep and two others who I did not know were waiting on me. He told me that a serious problem had been discovered. He said that I was being written up and suspended for turning in false paperwork.

He handed me a disciplinary form stating that I had turned in false paperwork on the engine temperature sensor I had installed a few hours before. I was floored and began to protest. I told them that this was ridiculous and that I had done this work.

The union rep spoke up at this point and recommended that we take a look at the plane to see if we could straighten it all out. I then asked who the other two men were. The GM told me that they were airline safety inspectors but would not give me their names.

We proceeded to the plane, which should have been in the air but was parked on our maintenance ramp. We opened the engine cowling and the union rep pulled the sensor. He checked the serial number and told everyone that it was the old instrument. We then went to the parts bay and went back into the racks.

The union rep checked my report and pulled from the rack a sealed box. He opened the box and pulled out the engine temperature sensor with the serial number of the one I had installed. I was told that I was suspended for a week without pay and to leave immediately.

I sat at home the first day of my suspension wondering what the hell had happened to me. That evening I received a phone call. The voice told me "Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job! As it is, I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon." CLICK.

Again, I had to pick myself from off the floor. As my mind raced, it was at this moment that I made the connection that what had happened to me must have been directly connected to my tracing the "mysterious" piping.

The next morning the General Manager called me. He said that due to my past excellent employment record that the suspension had been reduced to one day and that I should report back to work immediately. The only thing I could think of was "what are they trying to hide" and "who are 'THEY'"!

That day at work went by as if nothing had happened. None of the other mechanics mentioned the suspension and my union rep told me not to talk about it. That night I logged onto the Internet to try to find some answers.

I don't remember now how I got there but I came across a site that talked about chemically-laced contrails.

That's when it all came together. But the next morning at work I found a note inside my locked locker. It said, "Curiosity killed the cat. Don't be looking at Internet sites that are no concern of yours."

Well that's it. Now I know 'THEY' are watching me.

While I don't know what THEY are spraying, I can tell you how they are doing it. I figure they are using the "honey trucks". These are the trucks that empty the waste from the lavatory waste tanks.

The airports usually contract out this job and nobody goes near these trucks. Who wants to stand next a truck full of sh--. While these guys are emptying the waste tanks, it makes sense that they could easily be filling the tanks of the spray system.

They know the planes flight path so they probably program the control unit to start spraying some amount of time after the plane reaches a certain altitude. The spray nozzles in the fake static wicks are so small that no one in the plane would see a thing.God help us all.
 
Hi AdPop,

I am a pilot and work for a major airline. In my line of work, we deal with them all the time. Yes it is true, that the mechanics are specialised in thier respective fields, eg avionics, airframe, engines, etc. I am not sure of the pecking order within thier ranks. But if as the article states
nothing for me to do but to crawl in and fix the problem.
that seems to imply that this guy was an airframe guy, so what was he doing replacing an engine temperature sensor, when that would be the job of a engineer specialised in engines?

The other thing to note is that there usually is an independent check if a job is done to a critical part of an aeroplane. What that means is that a mechanic or engineer works on a problem, after which his supervisor or another engineer will check and certify that the work was done according to specs. Therefore if a problem is found later, you would expect that both of the engineers would be called up. Engines are a critical part of an aeroplane. The article doesn't mention if his counter signing engineer was called up as well.
 
Guys, here's an interesting link showing a chemtrail 'spew plane'

http://timehascome.worldbreak.com/Pagez/spewplane.htm

This is wierd. I wonder if this could have been photoshopped?
 
wilecoyote said:
Guys, here's an interesting link showing a chemtrail 'spew plane'

http://timehascome.worldbreak.com/Pagez/spewplane.htm

This is wierd. I wonder if this could have been photoshopped?
The second looks like an air measuring device - possible pitot probe-ish (I've seen something similar somewhere in the past few years but can't remember)

The third looks like a pitot probe in similar to the above-mention.

The fourth looks like the interior of an aircraft kitted out for testing, lots of kit not fitted the way you would expect in a 'in-service' aircraft.

Edited 26/7/06 - i was shown these photo's in the late 90's by a 'spotter' friend I used to work with.
 
"Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't.
Don't be looking at Internet sites that are no concern of yours." - LOL, those conversations would never happen in reality. Especially if they monitor his internet activity, they would NEVER tell him that.
Someone was desperately trying to convince others to "chemtrails" theory. Maybe part of it happened and wac later "colorized".
By the way, I once observed a plane spraying on relatively low altitude, it was extremely fast and took 30 seconds to fly from horizon to horizon, it had to be a jet, I would never believe it's done with ordinary commercial airliners.

On the other hand we know it's happening, I see that on the sky myself. It's easy to spot, just wait for hot, dry weather with blue sky and no natural clouds - that's when they start doing this checkerboard on the sky.
Those who say it's just contrails are silly and prove the "selective amnesia" thing - if those are contrails we would have seen them more often (there is an airfield nearby, I see lots of planes everyday), during all kinds of weather, one trail one day, two trails next day, no trails next day, one trail next day and so on - but it's not like that. Someone noticed it could be due to newer engines, but the previous would still apply.
One thing makes sense - those artificially produced clouds are supposed to shield earth from sun thus lower the temps. But what else could be added to those chemicals... there is plenty of it on internet starting with population control ending with crowd control.
 
The US Military since the late 1990's has been observed engaged in a massive program of spraying aerosol particles into the atmosphere using primarily US Air Force KC-10 and KC-135 tanker jets. This appears to be happening primarily over NATO countries, and over the ocean to some extent. I have observed this spraying happening almost every day here in Central California. While this issue has broken through the local media, there is a national media black-out on this program, and official denial by the government, so it is obviously a covert operation. What is the opinion of Signs of the Times as to the purpose(s) of this massive program?
 
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