Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia

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Ukraine Crisis: Nato plans east european bases to counter Russia

Nato is to deploy its forces at new bases in eastern Europe for the first time, in response to the Ukraine crisis and in an attempt to deter Vladimir Putin from causing trouble in the former Soviet Baltic republics, according to its secretary general.

Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the organisations's summit in Cardiff next week would overcome divisions within the alliance and agree to new deployments on Russia's borders – a move certain to trigger a strong reaction from Moscow.

Rasmussen said: "We will adopt what we call a readiness action plan with the aim to be able to act swiftly in this completely new security environment in Europe. We have something already called the Nato response force, whose purpose is to be able to be deployed rapidly if needed. Now it's our intention to develop what I would call a spearhead within that response force at very, very high readiness.

Article continues here _http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/26/nato-east-european-bases-counter-russian-threat


My first question to this was: Will they really be that stupid??
What will this achieve besides escalating the conflict to yet another level, with unpredictable consequences?
Maybe they are beginning to realize that people and other countries are beginning to see through their lies and outcry, so they feel they have to back it with some substantial actions.
Like saying: See! This is very real! Look what we have to do!

Do not know if its connected, but I think that it is weird that the secretary general goes out with this statement and pushes for it, right before the replacement with the new one(Jens Stoltenberg).
 
Torstone said:
Ukraine Crisis: Nato plans east european bases to counter Russia

Nato is to deploy its forces at new bases in eastern Europe for the first time, in response to the Ukraine crisis and in an attempt to deter Vladimir Putin from causing trouble in the former Soviet Baltic republics, according to its secretary general.

Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the organisations's summit in Cardiff next week would overcome divisions within the alliance and agree to new deployments on Russia's borders – a move certain to trigger a strong reaction from Moscow.

Rasmussen said: "We will adopt what we call a readiness action plan with the aim to be able to act swiftly in this completely new security environment in Europe. We have something already called the Nato response force, whose purpose is to be able to be deployed rapidly if needed. Now it's our intention to develop what I would call a spearhead within that response force at very, very high readiness.

Article continues here _http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/26/nato-east-european-bases-counter-russian-threat


My first question to this was: Will they really be that stupid??
What will this achieve besides escalating the conflict to yet another level, with unpredictable consequences?
Maybe they are beginning to realize that people and other countries are beginning to see through their lies and outcry, so they feel they have to back it with some substantial actions.
Like saying: See! This is very real! Look what we have to do!

Do not know if its connected, but I think that it is weird that the secretary general goes out with this statement and pushes for it, right before the replacement with the new one(Jens Stoltenberg).

I don't know either, the whole thing is ridiculous. Look at their whole effort to stop
Russia from integrating closer with EU, they indeed got what they wanted, Russia is turning
around and forming other alliances. But it will ultimately hurt EU and Russia doesn't seem to be
hurting much, at least to my understanding, which ultimately shows that EU is nothing but a US controlled vassal.
It's appears to me that every move they made so far has backfired and is bringing about the changes
they want, but in a strange way that ultimately benefits Russia. They don't think ahead much.

The whole rearising cold war propaganda could be just to divert attention from the real
problems. I don't know much about the Cold War, but the whole thing seems to have been nothing
but a way to control the masses and keep states subjugated to the imperial agenda,
the communist boogeyman resembles the 'terrorist threat' we have today, and it's used as a way
to justify their goals, more oppression, less freedom, all done "for our own benefit".

Also worth reading: Daily Mail Caught in War Hoax

_http://journal-neo.org/2014/08/25/daily-mail-caught-in-war-hoax/
 
Oh, wow, NY Times totally lost their mind and credibility. I think tabloids post more credible info than them. That's the latest news alert that landed in my mail box:

BREAKING NEWS Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:48 PM EDT

Russia Opens 3rd Front With a New Offensive, Ukrainian and Western Officials Say

Tanks, artillery and infantry have crossed from Russia into an unbreached part of eastern Ukraine in recent days, attacking Ukrainian forces and causing panic and wholesale retreat not only in the small border town of Novoazovsk but a wide swath of territory, in what Ukrainian and Western military officials are calling a stealth invasion.

The attacks outside Novoazovsk and in an area to the north essentially have opened a new, third front in the war in eastern Ukraine between Ukrainian forces and pro-Russian separatists, along with the fighting outside the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk.

READ MORE »
_http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/world/europe/ukraine-russia-novoazovsk-crimea.html?emc=edit_na_20140827
 
What a load of horse hockey! The definition of insanity.
Do these people really think they're going to get away with this?
I really hope that Joe six-pack is a lot smarter than these pathocrats give them credit for. :mad:
 
Alot of people believing this stuff from the MSM especially here in Northern Europe. Or maybe that is just how it feels as I've started going through more local articles and subsequent comments from the mainstream media.

I opened the article on the Ukraine crisis below and it was hard read, as I could feel that tightness in my stomach when I see western MSM accusing "Russian media" of what THEY are doing:
_http://www.examiner.com/list/russia-s-top-20-lies-about-ukraine

I wonder if we could "re-debunk" this article in a clear simple package, or if it is worth it - the social media campaign and the continuing flow of articles will be available for those who care and really want to know. I'm feeling for the average citizen who just does not know what to 'believe' or think anymore, particular when such blatant lies are being promoted (as Keit mentioned in the post about the NY Times "Breaking News" which, by the way, has been translated and cut and pasted from Reuters to our local papers - sheesh!)
 
Even reading that headline "Russia's top 20 lies about Ukraine" made me want to throw up. Reading it was worse. They really just say whatever they want. Seriously, they're taking pictures from someone's Twitter account and claiming that it's "Russian propaganda". A random person's Twitter account!

Meanwhile the fascists are blowing up kindergartens and apartment buildings in Ukraine.

_http://rt.com/news/183220-ukraine-donetsk-shelling-civilians/

Kiev forces have shelled residential areas in the center of the rebel-held town of Donetsk, killing at least three people and damaging several apartment blocks, a kindergarten and a cultural center.

On Wednesday, Kalininsky District in the center of the city came under artillery fire from the government forces.

RT’s Paula Slier arrived on the scene less than half an hour after the shelling when the local residents were “still in shock”.

One of the missiles directly hit a passenger car on Shevchenko Boulevard, turning the vehicle into a torch.
 
It is sickening, look at this one, they're openly calling out for people to retweet
their propaganda.

Ukraine says it's being invaded by Russia, and can you please retweet

_http://www.theage.com.au/world/ukraine-says-its-being-invaded-by-russia-and-can-you-please-retweet-20140828-109dbc.html
 
I wonder who this Ella Polyakova is supposed to be, as she is mentioned a bit further down in the article:

_http://mashable.com/2014/08/28/russian-forces-entered-ukraine/

She is apparently some member of Putin’s advisory council and AP is claiming she has stated Russia is “invading” - this item is also being picked up on the wires, and translated neatly in my home country :rolleyes: .

More horse hockey, and right now I'm not sure if it is AP, this Ella, or what is the BS generation source.
 
The German edition about "ATO"

"No Russian propaganda videos are necessary to understand that "anti-terrorist operation" of Kiev actually is terrorist. Figures, photos and the facts speak for themselves", - writes der Freitag.

Here shoot at the civilian population and terrorize it that in the cities as soon as possible didn't remain inhabitants. Only this way this anti-terrorist operation which the president Poroshenko calls "an action of cleaning" and which actually is terrorist operation "will work".

During this operation the civilian population deprive of the most necessary: waters, drugs, money, food, electricity and freedom of movement.
Generally, it is possible to tell that no promotion including promotion of Putin administration to understand that the president of Ukraine Poroshenko is the war criminal is necessary.

Author of the text: Sönke Paulsen
https://www.freitag.de/autoren/soenke-paulsen/poroschenko-ist-ein-kriegsverbrecher
 
European Commission: "There is a danger that Ukraine will start stealing gas"

Eurocommissioner on power Ettinger: "During the long and cold winter to Ukraine won't get gas, at it won't be in enough of own gas, and then there will be a danger of that gas will be stolen, danger of that on a way from the East to the west it will be simply lost".

New "brother" in a big close-knit European family very strongly respect :cool:

http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1404997
clowns. there was "Captain Obvious" :ohboy: :lol2:
 
There is another emergency meeting of the UN Security council regarding rumors that Russia invaded Ukraine. Live now.
http://rt.com/on-air/unsc-ukraine-crisis-russia/

Sigh... :rolleyes:
 
Keit said:
There is another emergency meeting of the UN Security council regarding rumors that Russia invaded Ukraine. Live now.
http://rt.com/on-air/unsc-ukraine-crisis-russia/

Sigh... :rolleyes:

Yeah... I am watching it right now and made the mistake of not having a sick bag handy. My kitchen is a mess now.
 
Patience said:
Keit said:
There is another emergency meeting of the UN Security council regarding rumors that Russia invaded Ukraine. Live now.
http://rt.com/on-air/unsc-ukraine-crisis-russia/

Sigh... :rolleyes:

Yeah... I am watching it right now and made the mistake of not having a sick bag handy. My kitchen is a mess now.

I agree. Talk about a set-up and snow job!

Do those jokers have a twitter page where I can tell them so?
 
Laura said:
Do those jokers have a twitter page where I can tell them so?

No separate page for the Security council, but here's UN page and the post about the emergency meeting _https://twitter.com/UN/status/505057658563747840
 
Patience said:
Keit said:
There is another emergency meeting of the UN Security council regarding rumors that Russia invaded Ukraine. Live now.
http://rt.com/on-air/unsc-ukraine-crisis-russia/

Sigh... :rolleyes:

Yeah... I am watching it right now and made the mistake of not having a sick bag handy. My kitchen is a mess now.

Great news! The more they live in their imagined psycho world the shorter it will last. How things goes in the last couple of days seems that Prasenko’s (little pig actually :lol: ) days are more or less coming to end.
 
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