Colorado Theater Shooting

[Ekios]

I wondered about that too. Someone suggested that his nose might just be 'flared' in the left image. The question is whether or not people's faces can really change that much depending on their expression?

Then we need to consider what Greenbaum programming would do to a person. Spilt personalities can supposedly be radically different, so one could be a geeky researcher and another could be imbued with apparent superhuman strength.

If they are the same person, it does look like his eyebrows were shaved and are growing back in - or he seriously plucked them. Gaby Gifford's shooter also shaved his eyebrows, so that's a little odd.

I made you a little comparison between a few details that fits and that don't, the royal blue circles are here to define the areas that are not really matching and which made me think about weight loss.

In cyan you can see that the eyebrows (that I copy pasted from the old pic over the new one) have their patterns which seems to coincide :)

Edit : correcting my bad english

 

[loreta]

I wondered about that too. Someone suggested that his nose might just be 'flared' in the left image. The question is whether or not people's faces can really change that much depending on their expression?

Then we need to consider what Greenbaum programming would do to a person. Spilt personalities can supposedly be radically different, so one could be a geeky researcher and another could be imbued with apparent superhuman strength.

If they are the same person, it does look like his eyebrows were shaved and are growing back in - or he seriously plucked them. Gaby Gifford's shooter also shaved his eyebrows, so that's a little odd.

I made you a little comparison between a few details that fits and that don't, the royal blue circles are here to define the areas that are not really matching and which made me think about weight loss.

In cyan you can see that the eyebrows (that I copy pasted from the old pic over the new one) have their patterns which seems to coincide :)

Edit : correcting my bad english

Good job Ekios! Now I can see more that I think it is the same man. Thank you!

 

[Joe]

Well, I just had a really frustrating few minutes. As I wrote here

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/248727-Suspect-Eyewitnesses-From-9-11-to-the-Colorado-Massacre

Emergency exits in theaters are usually locked and can only be opened from the inside. It is possible of course that Holmes first came in to the theater without his weapons and opened the door himself, left it ajar, walked back out to his car and then came back in. Whether or not this was the case could perhaps be answered by an eyewitness like Corbin Dates. One reporter actually asked Mr. Dates this question, but a short period of noise on the line lead to Corbin simply repeating his statement about the guy going to the emergency door to take a call.

Check out the interview (short). That was the only question he was unable to hear in the whole interview!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MW_qhAPAU

 

[Guardian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MW_qhAPAU

Something else in that interview doesn't make sense. The guy mentions that "the movie was cut off but the lights didn't come on" so they were in total darkness.

Now why would whoever turned the movie off not turn on the lights? Why keep a panicked crowd in complete darkness, without even the light from the movie screen to help them get out?

 

[Gonzo]

I have to say, this reminds me a lot of the Paul McCartney died and was replaced meme. Lots of energy has been invested in uncovering the clues in Beatles lyrics and before-and-after facial comparisons. We may never know the truth.

Regarding the link I provided in the other thread (Batman US cinema shooting: Fourteen dead in Denver - http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,28530.msg356802.html#msg356802) to some loony's website that had the recording of police and fire response to the theatre (_http://wellaware1.com/ - scroll down to the section with the heading: Breaking news the Shooting in Aurora is a drill.), I forgot to mention something odd I heard.

At 21:11 on the first recording, the dispatcher said:

Any unit. Unknown problem. 1690 South Moline st., 1690 South Moline st. We have a report of an unknown problem, at least three people dragging a person into an unknown description vehicle and last seen northbound on the street.

In terms of the timeline, this was after units arrived at the scene but before they had apprehended the suspect.

I looked up 1690 South Moline Street, Aurora, CO, and noticed it was approximately 2 miles (as the crow flies) from the location of the shooting. Could be total coincidence though.

All of the recordings are quite fascinating to listen to, especially the second group, where the left channel has fire/paramedic response and the other is the police band.

I also found other recordings:
Aurora movie theater shooting Police Audio 7/20/12
http://youtu.be/eFuNDOQ3b-0

Aurora Co Movie Theater Shooting FD audio 7/20/12
http://youtu.be/iZRNEHSZkYc

Gonzo

 

[FireShadow]

I wondered about that too. Someone suggested that his nose might just be 'flared' in the left image. The question is whether or not people's faces can really change that much depending on their expression?

Then we need to consider what Greenbaum programming would do to a person. Spilt personalities can supposedly be radically different, so one could be a geeky researcher and another could be imbued with apparent superhuman strength.

I used to work at a halfway house where we had a couple of patients with Multiple Personality Disorder. Yes, a change in personality can most definitely radically change how someone looks. The first time I witnessed someone "switching" was eerie. My stomach did a tumble, and I had a sense of unreality for a moment. The person in question seemed to transform/morph right under my eyes.

So, it is difficult for me to tell for sure if this is two different people or one person with different personalities.

 

[The rabbit]

Well, I just had a really frustrating few minutes. As I wrote here

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/248727-Suspect-Eyewitnesses-From-9-11-to-the-Colorado-Massacre

Emergency exits in theaters are usually locked and can only be opened from the inside. It is possible of course that Holmes first came in to the theater without his weapons and opened the door himself, left it ajar, walked back out to his car and then came back in. Whether or not this was the case could perhaps be answered by an eyewitness like Corbin Dates. One reporter actually asked Mr. Dates this question, but a short period of noise on the line lead to Corbin simply repeating his statement about the guy going to the emergency door to take a call.

Check out the interview (short). That was the only question he was unable to hear in the whole interview!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MW_qhAPAU

How far is the car park from the exit doors? Surely if it takes a little time to open the door , go to the car , get the ammo etc come back. There is a chance that some one may have closed the door on him.Which makes me think that there was some assistance.

 

[Guardian]

I've listened to the 2 hours of radio calls, allegedly unedited, TWICE, and I still haven't heard when they arrested him "behind the building" They find his car, and keep yelling for the bomb squad, but no "suspect in custody"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeNpRCR3l00


This image also showed up on Facebook. I have NO idea how many, if any, of these claims are true...but it would be interesting to check out.

 

[Ekios]

I've listened to the 2 hours of radio calls, allegedly unedited, TWICE, and I still haven't heard when they arrested him "behind the building" They find his car, and keep yelling for the bomb squad, but no "suspect in custody"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeNpRCR3l00


This image also showed up on Facebook. I have NO idea how many, if any, of these claims are true...but it would be interesting to check out.

Well this is quite something "if true"

 

[Niall]

Well this is quite something "if true"

It's probably not true. The source for this angle on the shooting is Sorcha Faal aka David Booth:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/221635-Intelligence-Briefs-or-Disinformation-How-to-Tell-the-Difference

It does appear that his father Robert Holmes worked in the US government, but only as a middle-manager. There is no evidence that he was due to "testify before congress" about the so-called "LIBOR scandal".

Which, by the way, is another manipulation by the banksters to make it seem like they are cleaning house. Interest rates have been fixed in their favour since the private central banking system was created 100 years ago. The scandal is probably also masking intra-banking clan struggle for control.

 

[Ekios]

Well this is quite something "if true"

It's probably not true. The source for this angle on the shooting is Sorcha Faal aka David Booth:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/221635-Intelligence-Briefs-or-Disinformation-How-to-Tell-the-Difference

It does appear that his father Robert Holmes worked in the US government, but only as a middle-manager. There is no evidence that he was due to "testify before congress" about the so-called "LIBOR scandal".

Which, by the way, is another manipulation by the banksters to make it seem like they are cleaning house. Interest rates have been fixed in their favour since the private central banking system was created 100 years ago. The scandal is probably also masking intra-banking clan struggle for control.

I frankly agree with you on that idea of "diversion" for both of those subjects since, in a way, we just did put our attention on two pictures of that person, wondering if they are the same, and then after that we put our concern over his pretended family/pedigree.

I wonder what we are missing here in the whole portrait (not sure of my english, I mean "le tableau dans son ensemble" )

 

[Niall]

The bigger picture is that these "random acts of terrorism" are deliberately conducted in order to remind people why they need powerful leaders to protect them from all the evil things that happen around them.

 

[Ca.]

The bigger picture is that these "random acts of terrorism" are deliberately conducted in order to remind people why they need powerful leaders to protect them from all the evil things that happen around them.

Slowly but surely, step by step, inch by inch, until there loading everyone on cattle cars while telling them it is for there own good, and they will be well taken care of in the confines of barbwire camps , and watch towers, with armed guards.

Hmmm now when did that happen in the past?

 

[Ekios]

The bigger picture is that these "random acts of terrorism" are deliberately conducted in order to remind people why they need powerful leaders to protect them from all the evil things that happen around them.

Yes on a large scale, I'm just curious here to know what that "little" event, so to say, was meant for. As said, the devil hides in little details ;)

Edition : how funny is that, I just got my weekly newsletter from a french newspaper/magazine and its first main title was : The dark night rises, the devil is in the details.

_http://www.marianne2.fr/The-Dark-Knight-Rises-le-diable-est-dans-les-details_a221043.html

Irony of a coincidence ;)

 

[Joe]

The bigger picture is that these "random acts of terrorism" are deliberately conducted in order to remind people why they need powerful leaders to protect them from all the evil things that happen around them.

Yes on a large scale, I'm just curious here to know what that "little" event, so to say, was meant for. As said, the devil hides in little details ;)

As Kniall said, it was probably meant to instill fear and anxiety in the American population and make them more dependent on their leaders for protection.