loreta

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
I have noticed an increasing number of users on this forum supporting the official narrative of Covid-19 directly or indirectly. This is clearly correlated with the increase in propaganda in the MSM. I don't know what to think about it and I don't like it.
I will not give examples. Anyone who thinks sees them.
Maybe I am one of those who do not think, so can you give us some examples? Thank you.
 

loreta

The Living Force
FOTCM Member

COVID-19 Vaccine To Be Tested on 6-Year-Olds









Kids, with truth, are the first victims at war, always. Never forget the kids in the concentration camps, but not just in concentration camps, in the cities, in the villages, always we forget kids during wars. Poor souls! what happens to them is a shame, these little beings. Now again because we are in the same situation, we are at war, total war as they used to say during WW2. And kids are again victims of the folly that is present everywhere.

This is a propaganda video about children during war and I don't want to make noise but I think it is good to remember what happened in the past and the past is now here.

 

Lucius Lu

The Force is Strong With This One
Hi Lucius,

Could you elaborate a bit on this? I'm not sure why are you saying this. Is it because there are people who said the virus DOES exist, which is based on science and research, or are there other reasons?
Yes.Sir:
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Flu infections way down due to Covid precautions
It's a older video, but with our masks and social distancing, flu cases are plummeting.
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hlat

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Yes.Sir:
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Flu infections way down due to Covid precautions
It's a older video, but with our masks and social distancing, flu cases are plummeting.
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Who on the forum believes these lies? There's a difference between posting the outrageous lies from out there to ridicule and condemn on one hand, and on the other hand posting them as if they were the truth. Clearly what you quote are lies. However, your accusation is that people here support those type of quoted lies. Please quote a specific post on the forum that demonstrates your accusation.
 

jhonny

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Flu infections way down due to Covid precautions
It's a older video, but with our masks and social distancing, flu cases are plummeting

Oh yes, perhaps I missed this from the comments in this thread, but I also heard this from my boos. She thinks that reinforcing the measures and relying on the vaccine we could get rid of both Covid and the flu (!!!)
 

Metrist

Jedi Council Member
Here's a video talking about the flu season in the U.S. this season. I was interested in the flu season because I just got over a flu. It mentions the southern hemisphere also.

 

Niall

Administrator
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Flu infections way down due to Covid precautions
It's a older video, but with our masks and social distancing, flu cases are plummeting.

It is the case that 'flu cases' are 'way down'.

But as we've seen from reporting on what is and is not a 'Covid-19 case', what is and is not a 'flu case' is also unclear. They never did mass testing for 'flu'. In the past, it was largely down to self-reporting and/or doctors putting 'flu' (and/or related Influenza-like illnesses, 'ILIs', like pneumonia or other respiratory illnesses) down on patients' reports or death certificates. That's why, at the beginning of this madness, we initially said, 'Hang on, the numbers (of reported Covid-19 cases) are actually close to - or even lower than - past (even recent past) numbers of flu cases during the winter season'.

Then we realized that the 'flu baseline' against which everyone was comparing Covid-19 was weak (specifically, unreliable), so we instead looked 'beyond' that to see whether or not overall deaths ('all-cause mortality') increased during the 'Covid-19 pandemic'. They did, slightly, in countries that had the strictest lockdowns, but what that 'signal' in the data means is questionable because the case can be made that the initial 2-month lockdown last spring killed off - a little earlier than they might otherwise have gone ('dry tinder', epidemiologists call it) - a cohort of the elderly/chronically infirm by stupidly reorienting healthcare systems - in the worst possible way, as far as the most vulnerable to Covid-19 were concerned, and other larger cohorts because regular screening and primary healthcare went to hell.

One consequence of that reorientation is that we can't tell to what extent 'flu cases all but disappearing off the face of the Earth' is down to the fact that healthcare systems are under political-administrative orders to 'see only Covid-19', how much of that is due to actual biological factors whereby the SARS-CoV-2 variants are 'occupying the pathways' through which seasonal flu viruses normally enter and interact with their hosts, and how much of that is 'a happy and surprising by-product of successful public health measures' like social distancing.

We think the first explanation most likely accounts for most of the 'disappearance of flu'; it 'disappeared' into the 'Covid column' on Excel spreadsheets because of overwhelming tunnel-vision focus on SARS-CoV-2. Governments, on the other hand, would love for people to believe the latter explanation, which they can of course endlessly leverage to make the case for more lockdowns.

And that is what's chiefly farcical about this situation: if they're keeping everyone under lockdown and/or 'limited social bubbles', they're theoretically keeping Covid-19 herd immunity at bay, and regular seasonal flu herd immunity at bay, worsening the impact of each when things 'return to normal'... Unless, we never return to normal because Big Brother Govt will be there every step of the way to 'save us from suffering' by endlessly putting off the inevitable.

Here's a recent UK Telegraph report warning about 'the flu rebound':

Experts have warned the world may face a dramatic resurgence of flu next winter, after social distancing measures cut the virus to levels not seen for over a century.

Scientists fear that falling immunity levels to influenza - normally sustained by seasonal circulation of the virus - could now pave the way for one of the worst flu outbreaks for years.

“If I had to gamble on it, then I would guess that we are likely to get a more severe epidemic in the coming winter - assuming restrictions are fully lifted by then,” said Prof John Edmunds, of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine and a member of the government’s Sage committee of scientific advisors. [...]

If it's the case that "social distancing measures cut the [Covid] virus to levels not seen for a century," then - by implication - why not maintain such measures indefinitely to also 'prevent the flu from returning'?

In the very same article, further down, it is acknowledged why this was never attempted before The Covid came along:

Dr John McCauley, director of the Worldwide Influenza Centre at the Francis Crick Institute - one of five WHO collaborating centres that constantly track pandemic flu viruses and helps to update influenza vaccines - said the current situation is unprecedented.

“I don’t think we’ve been in a position with so little flu in circulation for over a century,” he said. “What that means is overall in the population there’s less experience and therefore there’s less boosting of immunity.”

Flu is ordinarily 'allowed' to circulate because IT'S NECESSARY FOR HUMAN IMMUNITY!

But not Covid-19. No, we must keep people from developing natural immunity to that virus - at the cost of collapsing civilization if necessary.
 
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Andrian

The Living Force
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Just saw the following video on Twitter, the guy is being fined after boarding at a Canadian airport after refusing to take the pcr test and for not wearing a mask (if I got it right).


Also, recently I've joined a channel on telegram run by an Italian lawyer who gives legal advice to people and business owners who are "breaking the law", that is, the draconian pathological measures imposed by draconian pathological individuals. He gives advice to those bar and restaurant owners who just can't afford anymore to rely on income from deliveries since the bars and the restaurants are open only till 6 pm in Italy and most of them rely on deliveryservices available till 10 pm.

So basically according to this guy and other lawyers who are fighting for the rights of the little guys who are defying the system for the sake of survival, the government regulations against covid-1984 don't have any legal weight if not enforced by the mayor of a county.

If the government restrictive measures aren't published on the official city's hall website as a mayor's law order than the said government regulations don't have any legal weight.

For example, on the telegram channel it has been reported by many members that by checking on the city hall website of their county they've noticed that there are none or just a few insignificant mayor legal orders based on the regulations issued by the government.

So basically it seems that by acting this way they are covering their asses against possibile futures legal repercussions. People on the channel reported that they have been fined for not wearing masks outdoors, didn't pay the fine, waited for 3 months for a legal notice from mayor's office for not having paid the fine and nothing arrived in the end because there are no mayor legal orders issued on the said matter. Even if the mayor's office sends you a legal note for not having paid the fine you still can dispute it in court if there are no mayor legal orders issued on that matter.

I'll be honest, when I've found out I've been astounded but not surprised considering how the government scared everybody with this invisible enemy through heavy propaganda 24h a day for a year now. In my case, I prefer to avoid any possible encounters with the police when I'm going outside and not wearing a mask, I never wear it outdoors, though I must admit that in order to avoid any unpleasant circumstances with the police I'm going outside in the evening and only for specific purposes.

Since March of last year I'm not going outside anymore for a walk or in the Parc for working out as I used to do, it's my choice though, I prefer to stay home instead of feeling like a criminal every time I'm going outside and not wearing a mask.
 

Lucius

The Living Force
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So in Poland there is a "survey of the ground" or the introduction of a ban on "cotton" masks or scarves, etc. Or in other words: the government should designate which masks are obligatory... Let's hope it doesn't go the way of Bavaria in Germany.

Prof. Horban: the government will ban the wearing of certain masks and covering the nose and mouth with anything
So....

Ministry of Health: From Saturday, ban on 'hard-on' visors, order to wear 'soft-on' masks
"We would like to introduce a ban on wearing visors or scarves from next Saturday," said Wojciech Andrusiewicz, spokesman for the Ministry of Health. He added that the government did not want to introduce the obligation to wear only professional masks, among others due to the fear of sudden increase in their prices.

Today, 10:36

Protective maskPAP/Darek Delmanowicz
A spokesman for the Ministry of Health explained that the ban on covering the face with a part of clothing or a visor would be linked to the recommendation of what we should use
What kind of masks should we wear? The government will not specify that. Andrusiewicz agreed with the statement that it would not do so for "purely economic reasons"
A gradual "professionalisation of face shields" is possible. Such a decision also depends on the stage of the epidemic
More similar information can be found on the homepage of Onet.pl
According to current regulations, the nose and mouth can be covered not only with a mask, but also with a part of clothing or a visor. In an interview with the WP portal, Andrusiewicz informed that "there is no turning back" when it comes to giving up covering the nose and mouth with something other than a mask.

See: Health minister: there will be a regional return to lifted restrictions
- The ban on the use of such covers will be categorical with a simultaneous recommendation of what we should use, he added, indicating that the recommendation will be "soft" and the ban will be "hard".

Asked when the ban would take effect, the MZ spokesman replied: "We would like to introduce it from next Saturday. - Wherever it was obligatory to cover the nose and mouth, there will still be such an obligation and there will be a categorical order to cover the mouth with a mask - he said. The wearing of chimneys, scarves, bandanas or visors will be banned, he stressed.

Coronavirus: which masks should we wear? "We don't want to put the whole society in front of such a fact"
- Obviously ideally we would all be using something from surgical masks upwards, going through FFP2 or FFP3 levels, but remember this is a commodity we are buying on the market and sudden demand will shape price and supply. Now, we would not want the public to suddenly pay a lot of money for a surgical mask because we are introducing solutions that will be in place in a few days' time. We do not want to put the whole society in front of such a fact - said a spokesman for the ministry.

Read: New information on Wednesday about the restrictions. When will the conference be held?
Andrusiewicz agreed, saying that the government would be happy to introduce such a solution, but is not doing so for "purely economic reasons". He stressed that when the law allowing people to cover their nose or mouth with a scarf came into force, there was a shortage of masks on the market. - Now there are many more of them, but the best-protecting ones are still not so many that one day we could all rush out and buy all the available goods - he said.


Tomorrow the Minister of Health will announce information about restrictions in Poland
Asked whether it is possible to introduce an obligation to wear only better quality masks when the market "adapts to the situation", the head of the Ministry of Health replied that "it is possible to gradually professionalise face shields". As he added, such a decision also depends on the stage of the epidemic at which we will be. - If this scale of infections unexpectedly explodes beyond the measure we have defined, there will definitely be such recommendations," the MZ spokesman said.
*** Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) ***

So in the next step they will probably say that Specialised masks, as there will be "more infected"

I feel like they are "training" me reward and punishment. Thank goodness I'm watching it from a distance, enjoying the whole show.
 

Candice

Jedi
In relation to the flu disappearing act, it would be interesting to compare different countries, since not all have put in place the same covid-19 mandates.

For example here in Taiwan, the flu has basically disappeared but we also don’t have covid-19 community spread. Cases are mostly confined to those in quarantine. Some might assume that since it’s Asia that everyone masks up and social distances, this is not true. I live in a rural area with a high population of elderly and most people don’t wear masks and social distancing never happens. I mention the elderly because we also have never had an official covid case in my county, never mind a death. Though I’m pretty sure I had it late Jan last year, so it must have been in the community but no cases were reported. At that time it was very difficult to get a test so those cases may have just been thought of as the flu.

The Taiwan CDC reports each week the number of influenza hospitalizations and since Oct 1st, there’s only been one severe case.

2020-2021 Influenza Season Week 7, Feb 14 – Feb 20, 2021
Synopsis
The number of medical visits for influenza-like illness was still low.
⚫ Influenza virus activity was low in community. Other respiratory viruses remained dominant during the past four weeks.
⚫ There has been one influenza case with severe complications since October 1, 2020.

As for the theory that flu cases are likely being counted as covid-19 cases, we don’t have covid-19. This could be true for other countries but not Taiwan. I’ve thought that the Gov could be hiding covid/“flu” cases but that would be incredibly difficult. We have a really affordable efficient healthcare system and the elderly will visit the doctor for any tiny issue because it’s so cheap, surely if they were dying of covid/“flu” it would have been reported. A reminder, we’ve only had 9 covid-19 deaths so far. Every case or death is a major deal so I can’t imagine how they’d cover it up.

There are still other respiratory viral infections, so the narrative that masks etc. has killed the flu is suspect. So where did the flu go? It’s a mystery 🤷‍♀️


During the past four weeks (week 2 - week 5, 2021), there was no influenza isolates, and the top three respiratory virus isolates were parainfluenza viruses (37.6%), RSV (27.5%) and HSV (18.3%).
 

Candice

Jedi
As for the theory that flu cases are likely being counted as covid-19 cases, we don’t have covid-19. This could be true for other countries but not Taiwan. I’ve thought that the Gov could be hiding covid/“flu” cases but that would be incredibly difficult. We have a really affordable efficient healthcare system and the elderly will visit the doctor for any tiny issue because it’s so cheap, surely if they were dying of covid/“flu” it would have been reported. A reminder, we’ve only had 9 covid-19 deaths so far. Every case or death is a major deal so I can’t imagine how they’d cover it up.
In addition I just came across this article based on a study that was done in Taiwan. They found that the all cause mortality rate of 2020 was lower than 2019, they concluded it was highly unlikely there were significant undocumented deaths due to covid-19. They however are trying to push the narrative that the low flu and covid cases is due to all the mask wearing etc. I just don’t buy this, as I’ve said in our region for the last year I didn’t observe a significant increase in mask wearing. Of course in the larger cities they were but our town is a popular tourist destination and the city people regularly visit during public holidays and weekends and weren’t wearing masks. Only recently did the gov mandate masks in stores but it’s not enforced. Only on public transport, in gov buildings and hospitals are people strict about the rules. We also never had lockdowns and “social distancing” is minimal at best.


The study, authored by Wayne Gao (高志文) and Mattia Sanna of Taipei Medical University's College of Public Health, set out to examine the possibility that undocumented COVID-19 deaths have occurred in Taiwan, and to assess whether behavioral changes made in response to the pandemic have affected the number of deaths from various causes.

To do so, the study collected government data from 2008 through 2020 on yearly population, all-cause deaths, deaths from pneumonia and influenza, and traffic deaths, and calculated the adjusted mortality rate per 100,00 people for each category in every year.

It found that the age and sex-adjusted all-cause mortality rate per 100,000 people in 2020 was 399.8, which is in line with the decreasing trend of recent years and notably lower than the 2019 rate of 417.6.

Meanwhile, the adjusted pneumonia and influenza mortality rate in 2020 was 48.7, which was significantly lower than the 2019 rate of 56.8 and a deviation from the increasing trend of such deaths in recent years, according to the study.

The 2020 death rate from those causes was also the lowest it has been at any point since 2010, the study showed.

Drawing on these statistics, the study's authors concluded that it was "highly unlikely" Taiwan experienced excess deaths in 2020, referring to a measure widely used to extrapolate the total number of deaths caused by COVID-19, including those that are undiagnosed.

Furthermore, the study said, although inadequate testing can cause COVID-19 deaths to be underreported or misclassified as pneumonia or influenza due to their symptomatic similarity, Taiwan's low mortality rate from those causes in 2020 suggests that this did not occur.

Instead, the results show that "mask wearing, physical distancing, and restricting large social events may have had a positive spillover effect," driving down the number of deaths from pneumonia and influenza, it said.
I find the following conclusion to the study to be rather disturbing:
Overall, the study concluded, Taiwan's experience during the COVID-19 pandemic has shown that "non-pharmaceutical measures and mass behavior changes facilitated by non-authoritarian governments" can successfully control the virus' spread, and can serve as an example for other countries until vaccines facilitate herd immunity.
I find it disturbing because Taiwan and other Asian countries are being touted as examples of how to deal with the virus. Every time I read an article, all the Asians are wearing masks and look like zombies. None of it depicts the reality I see or live in.

Surely these measures need to be implemented country wide to work, not only in cities. I can’t even debate this with my friends who live in the larger cities, they’re all brainwashed. They’ve been on vacation all over the island, I’ve seen the photos and they’re not wearing masks or social distancing.

My theory is that covid-19 was island wide at the start of 2020 and only 9 people died because there is community immunity from previous circulating coronaviruses and only the most immuno-compromised were susceptible.

However the early travel bans played the biggest role in stemming the spread of the virus, more so than masks.
 

Nucifera

Dagobah Resident

Synthetic mRNA Covid vaccines: A Risk-Benefit Analysis

Covid is the umbrella label for PCR “positive” people regardless of clinical presentation. Most are “asymptomatic,”some have generic cold/flu symptoms, and a few present with moderate or severe respiratory distress. Unfortunately, the PCR assays being used for diagnosis, are not fit for purpose. Most PCR assays are constructed based on the German Drosten et al. protocol.
Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) stats based on seroprevalence antibody studies are also inflated since T-cell immunity, is not measured in these studies. This may result in a 3-5X lower IFR for Covid. Regardless, the general IFR is on order of the seasonal influenza, approx. 0.2%.
Dr David Martin, emphasized that this technology does not meet the definition of a traditional vaccine as per the manufacturers’ claims. The trials do not test for reduction in transmission. These therapies do not prevent infection, merely reduction in one or more symptoms.

Interestingly, Moderna describes its technology as the “software of life,” not a vaccine.
This means, that someone who takes the Pfizer/BioNtech injection, has less than 1% chance of reducing at least one symptom of non-severe “Covid” for a period of 2 months. This means that someone who takes this injection has over 99% chance that it won’t work, regarding the efficacy. Over 100 people have to be injected for it to “work” in one person.
In previous SARS, MERS, Dengue fever and RSV virus vaccine trials the exposure of wild viruses to vaccine recipients resulted in severe disease, cytokine storms, and deaths in some animal and human trials. The phenomenon of ADE [antibody dependent enhancement] did not present initially in vaccine recipients, rather it presented after vaccine recipients were exposed to wild viruses.
In the longer term, [Dr. Mikovits] suspects we’ll see a significant uptick in migraines, tics, Parkinson’s disease, microvascular disorders, different cancers, including prostate cancer, severe pain syndromes like fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis, bladder problems, kidney disease, psychosis, neurodegenerative diseases such as Lou Gehrig’s disease (ALS) and sleep disorders, including narcolepsy. In young children, autism-like symptoms are likely to develop as well, she thinks.
To exercise informed consent, any recipient of this SGT [synthetic gene therapy] must be made aware that they are now participating in a clinical trial. There is no claim about reduction of transmission. All risk-benefit analysis must be focused on the individual, as is treatment with a drug therapy.
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