Ruth
The Living Force
Ok, so that's like never. Got it!
Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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Tauriel
Dagobah Resident
She didn't ask you for information, did she?
She told you that her mum tested positive and that's it. She's probably open for an ear and some solace. Thus she may or may not open up to alternative information.
I'm with Sottreader on this
WIN 52
The Living Force
In your conversation you could say something like I read where there are quite a few false positives with those tests. Recommend a second opinion?
Tauriel
Dagobah Resident
Yes, but the question was whether SevenFeathers should share an article with her workmate. Imo this wouldn't serve the purpose and wouldn't go along well with the background.
If in a normal conversation it appears proper to insert something as you proposed then I see no breach of free will.
I thought this article was quite good - it doesn't soft pedal the facts. It zeroes in on "cases", which are really test positives:
There's a chance she's ready and if not, then back to the way things were. Authoritarian followers are tough nuts to crack and most (?) never will . . .In the first two weeks of August there were 13,996 positive swabs in the UK. In the second two weeks of August there were 129 deaths. If you consider every positive swab to be a case, this represents a case fatality rate of 0.9%. Around one fifteenth of that seen at the start.
COVID - why terminology really, really matters -- Sott.net
When is a case not a case? Since the start of the COVID pandemic I have watched almost everyone get mission critical things wrong. In some ways this is not surprising. Medical terminology is horribly imprecise, and often poorly understood. In...www.sott.net
Corvus
Dagobah Resident
I meant prior to war and that they did not have so much tools as today they have and still the population accepted the totalitarian state so nothing really changes here, or it is really, realy slow change globally speaking.
It could also be that in a way she wanted to say in that way corona is serious because her mother got it.
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Saw the following twitter today:
Here is the link from one of the comments to this twitter: https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/co...w/Exports/partner/WLD/nomen/h5/product/902780
Smoking gun for the "plandemic" theory?
From the wikipedia page on Covid-19: Coronavirus disease 2019 - Wikipedia
Smoking gun for the "plandemic" theory?
From the wikipedia page on Covid-19: Coronavirus disease 2019 - Wikipedia
I was just lately preparing for a beach weekend with a small group of colleagues, 4 of us, work and geography-related friends for +/- 35 years. These occasional get togethers are nice for socializing and networking on all manner of topics. Truth is my stomach was in knots as I am not really co-linear with them politically, although there is one in the circle I can speak openly and respectfully with, without it affecting our friendship. And oh boy are people mean about politics lately. So for a couple of months I prepared myself to keep my mouth closed as to current events, and just talk about stuff of real importance like the latest in designer countertops. Then at the last moment, my dad died, so the trip was off.
But I found myself in the same situation, this time surrounded by family, going on and on about COV-idiots creating danger for everyone by not wanting to mask up, Orange-Man-Bad telling people to drink bleach, etc. These were medical professionals. Besides the sadness at the loss (father and sister), it was very lonely. I interjected once that POTUS didn't actually tell people to drink bleach, and I immediately felt like a character from Invasion of the Bodysnatchers. Jeez!
I do think these people are lost. SO smart on paper, but not able to think past the MSM spoon drip?
Unbelievable arrogance.
Or am I the arrogant one, projecting?
Anyway, I'm glad I prepared myself to mostly stay in observation mode.
Some good news is that there was no family bickering otherwise.
But I found myself in the same situation, this time surrounded by family, going on and on about COV-idiots creating danger for everyone by not wanting to mask up, Orange-Man-Bad telling people to drink bleach, etc. These were medical professionals. Besides the sadness at the loss (father and sister), it was very lonely. I interjected once that POTUS didn't actually tell people to drink bleach, and I immediately felt like a character from Invasion of the Bodysnatchers. Jeez!
I do think these people are lost. SO smart on paper, but not able to think past the MSM spoon drip?
Unbelievable arrogance.
Or am I the arrogant one, projecting?
Anyway, I'm glad I prepared myself to mostly stay in observation mode.
Some good news is that there was no family bickering otherwise.
Yupo - sorry to hear of the deaths in your family - to experience such surrounded by people with mindsets conforming to the propaganda must have been very hard to endure. That you prepared yourself in advance certainly served you well. Condolences.
An interview with one of the lawyers in the lawsuit challenging Ohio's Health Orders - worth watching:
More:
www.activistpost.com
An interview with one of the lawyers in the lawsuit challenging Ohio's Health Orders - worth watching:
More:
Ohio Citizen Group Files Federal Lawsuit to Remove State COVID-19 Emergency Order - Activist Post
Their aim is to "restore the Constitutional rights that have been stripped away by the State of Ohio’s unjustified actions regarding COVID-19"
www.activistpost.com
and every mention of Covid 19 has been removed, its all now "Medical Diagnostic Test instruments and apparatus", kind of confirms the scam? Just another clue that will be circulating for some time and memoryholed :(
The trading in PCR test kits since 2015 sure is interesting and of course it's a money-machine as they are in widespread use all over the world. So i find it noteworthy that on this Australian government's website COVID-19 testing in Australia - information for health professionals, it can be read that the test results from the PCR tests are dodgy and the serology tests useless. And while they clearly state this, every positive yield is called a "case" and the rise in so-called "cases" is being used as the rationale for abusive and absurd lockdowns in Melbourne.
From the Offguardian article:
Perhaps instituting the severe lockdown situation in Victoria could have something to do with Dan Andrews signing up to China's Road and Belt Initiative back in 2018. There was an interesting theory about that in a globalresearch article some time ago. Citing dangers to national security (what else?), The Federal Government was unhappy when Victoria made a deal with China under the country's Belt and Road Initiative, a scheme that sees China invest in huge infrastructure projects around the world, in October 2018. So could Andrews have been under pressure to halt all business dealings with China in Victoria resulting from the agreements by way of imposing a severe lockdown? Perhaps this connection is a long shot and i just read that Scott Morrison proposed an extraoridinary new law that will give the foreign minister sweeping powers to tear up agreements made by state and local governments and universities if they pose a threat.
So it could well be they drag out the lockdown until the end of the year, when the proposed Bill 2020 will become law if they have their way. It is put before federal parliament next week. So with the faulty tests they continue to find new "cases", MSM focuses people's attention elsewhere and during all this time, business is mostly non-existent so basically blocking any deals that have been entered into with Chinese companies so in line with that theory, perhaps this could be why the lockdown lasts as long as the law is not in place?
off-guardian.org
www.tga.gov.au
www.globalresearch.ca
www.dailymail.co.uk
From the Offguardian article:
Perhaps instituting the severe lockdown situation in Victoria could have something to do with Dan Andrews signing up to China's Road and Belt Initiative back in 2018. There was an interesting theory about that in a globalresearch article some time ago. Citing dangers to national security (what else?), The Federal Government was unhappy when Victoria made a deal with China under the country's Belt and Road Initiative, a scheme that sees China invest in huge infrastructure projects around the world, in October 2018. So could Andrews have been under pressure to halt all business dealings with China in Victoria resulting from the agreements by way of imposing a severe lockdown? Perhaps this connection is a long shot and i just read that Scott Morrison proposed an extraoridinary new law that will give the foreign minister sweeping powers to tear up agreements made by state and local governments and universities if they pose a threat.
So it could well be they drag out the lockdown until the end of the year, when the proposed Bill 2020 will become law if they have their way. It is put before federal parliament next week. So with the faulty tests they continue to find new "cases", MSM focuses people's attention elsewhere and during all this time, business is mostly non-existent so basically blocking any deals that have been entered into with Chinese companies so in line with that theory, perhaps this could be why the lockdown lasts as long as the law is not in place?
Australian Govt’s OWN WEBSITE admits Covid tests are totally unreliable
David James Imagine going to a doctor suspecting you may have a serious illness and being told that there are 2 tests available. With the first test, a swab, they do not know, should you record a p…
off-guardian.org
COVID-19 testing in Australia - information for health professionals
Information for health professionals about COVID-19 testing in Australia
www.tga.gov.au
Letters from Melbourne: A ‘Ghost Town Police State’ Under Brutal COVID Lockdown - Global Research
The citizens of Australia’s second most populous city are suffering under the harshest lockdown conditions of all Western democracies. Their voices need to be heard. In the last several weeks, Melbourne has introduced shockingly draconian anti-Covid measures, imposed on the metropolis of some 5...
www.globalresearch.ca
Victoria's Belt and Road deal with China could be SCRAPPED
The Prime Minister wants to stop states and territories signing deals with foreign powers that go against Australia's foreign policy and threaten the national interest.
shellycheval
The Living Force
Oh Yupo I am so sorry for your losses--that is so much to process emotionally--a big big hug and my sympathies to you. Trying to deal with emotional loss and grief is only compounded when almost everyone you associate with is living in a different reality!!! I know sometimes I feel like a ghost dropping in and observing but can only have minimal interactions with others. It is a weird sad feeling to have knowledge that protects but also isolates you at the same time. And yet we can't unknow--take a blue pill and go back--we must "be here now" and deal with it the best we can. When I find feelings of judgement or resentment creep up I remember how much these people mean to me and how grateful I am for them even if what we can share together is not the same anymore. Everything changes--our world is passing away before our eyes. I try to hang on to the love I have for it and let the rest go. Not always very good at it but it keeps me busy.
Big hug to you and know you are not alone really. Take care.
I'm so sorry about your father and sisters passing. And for the fact that the current events have hijacked so many others that it has widened the divide to the point where just being there for each other during times like these is almost impossible. Being in observation mode was probably the correct way to go about it, even if it was a lonely way to do so.
Eulenspiegel
Jedi Master
Here is an interesting shift I am noticing in German mainstream media:
netzpolitik.org
The article is mainly about their lack of satifisfaction with the fact that Amazon still is selling books that go against the mainstream Corona narrative, such as the book by Sucharit Bhakdi(the medical doctor who was interviewed by Ken Jebsen, featured somewhere in this thread).
What is disturbing(aside from the indirect call for censoring books) is how language has been changed to eerily correspond with Nazi denunciations of enemies.
People who do not accept the mainstream Corona narrative are called " Coronaleugner:innen", and directly compared to " Holocaustleugner:innen", making it sound as if the refusal to accept what is being presented is akin to denying the Holocaust.
Furthermore, every faction that is not aligned with the globalist agenda is given names that are designed to make people distrust them or not take them seriously.
They are unable to call people by their names only; Robert Kennedy Junior is called "Verschwörungsideologe Robert Kennedy Junior", meaning "conspiracy ideologist/demagogue". The same tag is given to "Verschwörungsideologe" Ken Jebsen.
Similarly, they are quick to put people in the category of "als rechtsextrem eingestuft", meaning "judged as extreme right".
I wonder how long it will take them to put badges akin to the Jewish/Yellow Badges on anyone who shows disobedience.
Desinformation: So penetrant empfiehlt Amazon den Kauf von Verschwörungsliteratur
Wer sich vom mächtigsten Buchhändler der Welt beraten lässt, bekommt schnell Desinformation vorgeschlagen. Unsere Recherche zeigt: Amazon ist eine Schleuder für Verschwörungsmythen – auch zur Corona-Pandemie.
netzpolitik.org
The article is mainly about their lack of satifisfaction with the fact that Amazon still is selling books that go against the mainstream Corona narrative, such as the book by Sucharit Bhakdi(the medical doctor who was interviewed by Ken Jebsen, featured somewhere in this thread).
What is disturbing(aside from the indirect call for censoring books) is how language has been changed to eerily correspond with Nazi denunciations of enemies.
People who do not accept the mainstream Corona narrative are called " Coronaleugner:innen", and directly compared to " Holocaustleugner:innen", making it sound as if the refusal to accept what is being presented is akin to denying the Holocaust.
Furthermore, every faction that is not aligned with the globalist agenda is given names that are designed to make people distrust them or not take them seriously.
They are unable to call people by their names only; Robert Kennedy Junior is called "Verschwörungsideologe Robert Kennedy Junior", meaning "conspiracy ideologist/demagogue". The same tag is given to "Verschwörungsideologe" Ken Jebsen.
Similarly, they are quick to put people in the category of "als rechtsextrem eingestuft", meaning "judged as extreme right".
I wonder how long it will take them to put badges akin to the Jewish/Yellow Badges on anyone who shows disobedience.
