Cryogenic Chamber Therapy / Cold Adaptation

[theos]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

I was in Phoenix last week and had 5 cryosauna sessions. I've been doing cold/ice baths for a couple of months so I didn't really notice much of a difference in how I felt. I'd already experienced the elevated mood and deep sleep when I first started the baths. I don't have any heath issues but I did have a muscle type pain in my left calf that remained with me throughout all the cryo sessions. Bummer. I didn't feel very cold at all after the first session. I shivered during the second but it wasn't until the last session that I really felt cold all over. My skin didn't turn pink as it does with the baths. I wonder if getting frozen then laying out suntanning afterwards are contraindicated?

Cryosauna is most certainly easier than the baths but I found myself craving the ice baths last week and took one the yesterday after I got back.

 

[MK Scarlett]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

Seven months on the paleo diet should be fine if you're net carb intake is below 50 grams probably. You're in ketosis right?

Thank you SeekinTruth for your answer, it helps as usual... ;)

My net carb intake is below 50 grams per day, some days it can be less... About ketosis, I did not make blood analysis yet and except the good feedbacks about this new diet I do not have especially 'bad answers' from where I am. But I am learning and I guess problems are able to come in the future, so I try to listen the most little 'message' my body or brain could send me.
About proteins, I usually consume it between 60 and 100g per day, which is maybe too much regarding my weight (before to start paleo diet I weighed 51 kg (112.2 lbs) and now 48 kg (105.6 lbs). I am sorry if the measures are wrong, so I hope be clear enough.
I should make a bigger report on the 'Life Without bread' thread, but I also take
L-Glutamine (1 500 g - 3.30690 lb per day) from 10 days now and I also increased,
Vit. D3 (from 1,000 iu per day to 5,000 iu per day).

Coming to strengthen the Vit. B, C (5 000 g - 11.02300 lb), D, E, and chloride of magnesium and citrate of magnesium already in my diet from several weeks, I also purchased Vit. A and Vit. K which I will certainly receive on the next days.

But as said previously, I will make a report on the 'Life Without bread' thread soon.

By the way and after have read the last comments here on yesterday evening, my cold shower this morning was easier! ;)

 

[SeekinTruth]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

Seven months on the paleo diet should be fine if you're net carb intake is below 50 grams probably. You're in ketosis right?

Thank you SeekinTruth for your answer, it helps as usual... ;)

My net carb intake is below 50 grams per day, some days it can be less... About ketosis, I did not make blood analysis yet and except the good feedbacks about this new diet I do not have especially 'bad answers' from where I am. But I am learning and I guess problems are able to come in the future, so I try to listen the most little 'message' my body or brain could send me.
About proteins, I usually consume it between 60 and 100g per day, which is maybe too much regarding my weight (before to start paleo diet I weighed 51 kg (112.2 lbs) and now 48 kg (105.6 lbs). I am sorry if the measures are wrong, so I hope be clear enough.
I should make a bigger report on the 'Life Without bread' thread, but I also take
L-Glutamine (1 500 g - 3.30690 lb per day) from 10 days now and I also increased,
Vit. D3 (from 1,000 iu per day to 5,000 iu per day).

Coming to strengthen the Vit. B, C (5 000 g - 11.02300 lb), D, E, and chloride of magnesium and citrate of magnesium already in my diet from several weeks, I also purchased Vit. A and Vit. K which I will certainly receive on the next days.

But as said previously, I will make a report on the 'Life Without bread' thread soon.

By the way and after have read the last comments here on yesterday evening, my cold shower this morning was easier! ;)

Well, if your carb intake is that low for that long, you should be in ketosis. Do you get hungry and do you have enough energy? I never get hungry. Basically, until I start eating, I don't have an appetite -- as I start eating, my appetite revives. So if you're the same way, that's a pretty good sign you're not burning sugar.

 

[RedFox]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

Coming to strengthen the Vit. B, C (5 000 g - 11.02300 lb), D, E, and chloride of magnesium and citrate of magnesium already in my diet from several weeks, I also purchased Vit. A and Vit. K which I will certainly receive on the next days.

Magnesium chloride is best not to be eaten. Mix it with some distilled water and use it as an oil on the skin - it gets safely absorbed that way.

 

[MK Scarlett]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

Seven months on the paleo diet should be fine if you're net carb intake is below 50 grams probably. You're in ketosis right?

Thank you SeekinTruth for your answer, it helps as usual... ;)

My net carb intake is below 50 grams per day, some days it can be less... About ketosis, I did not make blood analysis yet and except the good feedbacks about this new diet I do not have especially 'bad answers' from where I am. But I am learning and I guess problems are able to come in the future, so I try to listen the most little 'message' my body or brain could send me.
About proteins, I usually consume it between 60 and 100g per day, which is maybe too much regarding my weight (before to start paleo diet I weighed 51 kg (112.2 lbs) and now 48 kg (105.6 lbs). I am sorry if the measures are wrong, so I hope be clear enough.
I should make a bigger report on the 'Life Without bread' thread, but I also take
L-Glutamine (1 500 g - 3.30690 lb per day) from 10 days now and I also increased,
Vit. D3 (from 1,000 iu per day to 5,000 iu per day).

Coming to strengthen the Vit. B, C (5 000 g - 11.02300 lb), D, E, and chloride of magnesium and citrate of magnesium already in my diet from several weeks, I also purchased Vit. A and Vit. K which I will certainly receive on the next days.

But as said previously, I will make a report on the 'Life Without bread' thread soon.

By the way and after have read the last comments here on yesterday evening, my cold shower this morning was easier! ;)

Well, if your carb intake is that low for that long, you should be in ketosis. Do you get hungry and do you have enough energy? I never get hungry. Basically, until I start eating, I don't have an appetite -- as I start eating, my appetite revives. So if you're the same way, that's a pretty good sign you're not burning sugar.

No, I am not hungry, if I am in the morning for example, I take a big spoon of organic coco oil or an egg, but it is pretty function of the rest of my food for this day, and I do have appetite but not always and as you by eating, appetite comes alone. I also am fast satisfied. I have more energy than before but surely not at the top level even if I do consider I do not use my energy like I used to do it before, less moves more thoughts. So I should surely learn more and think about what is my energy exactly, how it works and how I can help it more than I started to do. I am doing this but I certainly need more informations about all the mechanism.
As the effort being awarded in Cosmos, at least my brain is clearly than before and step by step I get more concentration during work and researchs or readings...

 

[MK Scarlett]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

Coming to strengthen the Vit. B, C (5 000 g - 11.02300 lb), D, E, and chloride of magnesium and citrate of magnesium already in my diet from several weeks, I also purchased Vit. A and Vit. K which I will certainly receive on the next days.

Magnesium chloride is best not to be eaten. Mix it with some distilled water and use it as an oil on the skin - it gets safely absorbed that way.

Sorry for being not enough specify, yes I do use distilled water (or source water when I do not have distilled water) and I use drink it (125cc - 125 ml - 4.41 Oz, if I am not wrong) with citrate of magnesium. I also use it to look after small wounds (it works very well in this case from several little experiments), or under its crystalline shape in feet-bath, after have reading than the skin way was a good one. I did not yet tried mixed with an oil, but I surely will.

About drinking the solution of chloride of magnesium, I thank you for your warning and I pay attention of it even if I do not have cramps anymore from I use it but as I also take citrate in the same time, maybe it is this last one which would make effect and not the previous one. I should perhaps stop it during a while continuing citrate of magnesium and 'read' what is happening...

 

[MK Scarlett]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

I hope there is no confusion between the English word 'chloride' and the French one "chlorure". Is it really the same thing? To be more specific - and I would have think more before to post the previous one, I am working on it too... I use Nigari Salt, maybe this answer should be in my first one... Or it does not change anything?

 

[Sylvie]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

I use Nigari Salt, maybe this answer should be in my first one...

Nigari Salt comes from the sea of Japan, it seems?

 

[MK Scarlett]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

I use Nigari Salt, maybe this answer should be in my first one...

Nigari Salt comes from the sea of Japan, it seems?

Yes it seems, on the West coast... Would citrate of magnesium be enough?
Ok, I found a link to 'The Magnesium Miracle' thread here:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,2354.0.html
I gonna study it. Thank you again for your advertising RedFox and Sylvie.

 

[bngenoh]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

I was in Phoenix last week and had 5 cryosauna sessions. I've been doing cold/ice baths for a couple of months so I didn't really notice much of a difference in how I felt. I'd already experienced the elevated mood and deep sleep when I first started the baths. I don't have any heath issues but I did have a muscle type pain in my left calf that remained with me throughout all the cryo sessions. Bummer. I didn't feel very cold at all after the first session. I shivered during the second but it wasn't until the last session that I really felt cold all over. My skin didn't turn pink as it does with the baths. I wonder if getting frozen then laying out suntanning afterwards are contraindicated?

Cryosauna is most certainly easier than the baths but I found myself craving the ice baths last week and took one the yesterday after I got back.

Odyssey,

I take cold showers but I also go outside and bask in the sun while smoking, gardening, etc. I haven't noticed anything off in my body though, but it's an experiment so....

 

[Pierre]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

I hope there is no confusion between the English word 'chloride' and the French one "chlorure". Is it really the same thing? To be more specific - and I would have think more before to post the previous one, I am working on it too... I use Nigari Salt, maybe this answer should be in my first one... Or it does not change anything?

Hi MK Scarlett,

"Magnesium chloride" is exactly the same thing as "chlorure de magnésium". Nigari is the name given to magnesium chloride in Japan. The chemical formula is MgCl2.

It's better not to eat/drink magnesium chloride because it can be very laxative.

Safer solutions are magnesium citrate or magnesium maalate.

 

[Gawan]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

I hope there is no confusion between the English word 'chloride' and the French one "chlorure". Is it really the same thing? To be more specific - and I would have think more before to post the previous one, I am working on it too... I use Nigari Salt, maybe this answer should be in my first one... Or it does not change anything?

Hi MK Scarlett,

"Magnesium chloride" is exactly the same thing as "chlorure de magnésium". Nigari is the name given to magnesium chloride in Japan. The chemical formula is MgCl2.

It's better not to eat/drink magnesium chloride because it can be very laxative.

Safer solutions are magnesium citrate or magnesium maalate.

Buying directly Nigari is eventually not anymore the best solution, since the Fukushima incidence, unless it could be found out from where (in Japan) it is, when it was packed etc.

 

[MK Scarlett]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

I hope there is no confusion between the English word 'chloride' and the French one "chlorure". Is it really the same thing? To be more specific - and I would have think more before to post the previous one, I am working on it too... I use Nigari Salt, maybe this answer should be in my first one... Or it does not change anything?

Hi MK Scarlett,

"Magnesium chloride" is exactly the same thing as "chlorure de magnésium". Nigari is the name given to magnesium chloride in Japan. The chemical formula is MgCl2.

It's better not to eat/drink magnesium chloride because it can be very laxative.

Safer solutions are magnesium citrate or magnesium maalate.

Buying directly Nigari is eventually not anymore the best solution, since the Fukushima incidence, unless it could be found out from where (in Japan) it is, when it was packed etc.

Thank you both for your precisions, and so, even if I did not had a very laxative effect during all these weeks of use, I now continue with citrate and malate (I had in reserve) and without Nigari or chloride of magnesium which I will use for spraying on the skin or to look after small wounds. Laura talks about orotate here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,2354.msg237160.html#msg237160

I guess this one is good too, but I will know more after have finish to read this specific thread which will give me more informations, thank you again for your time and help.

 

[dantem]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

Indeed, the thing that is your brain that goes against the cold is perhaps the point here.

After a two weeks try of hot shower/cold shower I see that my body likes it, and I've got a terrific sensation of 'brightness' especially after washing the back of my neck and head. Makes me just 'light up', I can actually hear better and it's like my ears are tuning up themselves as I'm washing.

But damn if I'll ever go for a cold shower directly and without a blink :P

My psyche just won't go for it, that's it. I hesitate, have to start with a hot one, then lowering the temperature verrrry slowly. And then at a certain point it's like my body wants to feel refrigerated, like it needs a radiator to pull away all that fire that is burning the machine down.

Very odd. Then, at a certain point I have to switch/concentrate on belly breathing to 'keep up the energy flow', sort of...

The low-carbs diet definitely play a role here. This week the temperature went from 30 deg. C to 8 deg. C in 4 hours after a flashing storm. Usually I would go for a thick coat, but I've managed to walk around with a thin jacket safe and well. My digestion seems to have improved, and it's like wearing a new skin sometimes

I remember that I was used to associate cold to flu or a sore throat, it was automatic. Now it's like the reverse is right, I need cold to wash away the burning sensation of anything swelled up hot.

Looking forward for more.

Didn't have the time to read the whole research behind it, but it seems there's something to look at here

 

[bngenoh]

Re: Cryogenic Chamber Therapy

Indeed, the thing that is your brain that goes against the cold is perhaps the point here.

After a two weeks try of hot shower/cold shower I see that my body likes it, and I've got a terrific sensation of 'brightness' especially after washing the back of my neck and head. Makes me just 'light up', I can actually hear better and it's like my ears are tuning up themselves as I'm washing.

It's a useful exercise in consciously holding oneself when undergoing a shock. My hearing is also more sensitive and I also experience the radiation sensation & feeling.

But damn if I'll ever go for a cold shower directly and without a blink :P

My psyche just won't go for it, that's it. I hesitate, have to start with a hot one, then lowering the temperature verrrry slowly. And then at a certain point it's like my body wants to feel refrigerated, like it needs a radiator to pull away all that fire that is burning the machine down.

Very odd. Then, at a certain point I have to switch/concentrate on belly breathing to 'keep up the energy flow', sort of...

The low-carbs diet definitely play a role here. This week the temperature went from 30 deg. C to 8 deg. C in 4 hours after a flashing storm. Usually I would go for a thick coat, but I've managed to walk around with a thin jacket safe and well. My digestion seems to have improved, and it's like wearing a new skin sometimes

I remember that I was used to associate cold to flu or a sore throat, it was automatic. Now it's like the reverse is right, I need cold to wash away the burning sensation of anything swelled up hot.

Yep, breath is very important, it definitely keeps everything circulating at a good rate. My digestion has also improved, and I think a possible reason is because blood is forced into the viscera.

My skin is also looking awesome, smooth and all. I felt stuffy one day when I woke up, took a cold shower and voila, no more stuffyness.

On a side note, when I wash dishes which have to be done with warm/hot water, my body really starts to heat up and the sensations of eww come on. ;)