Cutting the thread

[Penderecki]

I wouldn't wish to "dissapoint" any of you, especially since I was convinced my stay on this forum would take awhile, but it seems my membership on this forum has really run its course this time.
Only very recently did I find out some things about the Cassiopaean project that don't agree with me.
Even aside from any other differences we may have, my main issue has to do with ethics.
I vaguely knew about Laura Knight Jadzick living in a mansion in Europe, but I had no idea she asked the members of the forum to contribute and support the purchase of said castle with donations.
I also wasn't aware of the fact she put up her ouija board, cut up in smaller pieces, for sale, selling them to the highest bidders.
Perhaps I could somehow ignore the cultish aspect if it wasn't for the fact that we have, I think, different notions about the Work.
The C. project is about "sociology", if I simplify this somewhat, while I am more interested in building a relationship with God.
That being said, I have no problems calling God with the name of Jesus Christ, but identifying Him with Julius Cezar that I find problematic.
Until I figure out how to disable my profile, if any of you would like to share some final words that would be fine with me.
I wish you well on your journey, especially the ones who have been so kind as to corresponded with me, I won't forget your generosity, may you be repaid tenfold for your efforts.

 

[Zzartemis]

@Penderecki Just wanted to say thank you for your kind words on my son's thread.
I've been a bit overwhelmed and not posting.

I did want to suggest that perhaps you could go back to the Orthodox monastery, not to join but to ask for a spiritual advisor. Maybe ask if you could stay for some time. They've good experience with intrusive thoughts which I gathered, from your other thread, seem to plague you. Whether they come from within or from the outside, from what I've read, a stay at the monastery may help you and deepen your relationship with God.
All the best to you and yours...
Michelle

 

[Esote]

Thank you Pendrecki for your honesty.
It's not about identifying Jesus Christ to Julius Caesar, it's much more than that actually. You have to dig much deeper into this subject if you want to know what it's really all about...
Take care

 

[heinrich]

I wouldn't wish to "dissapoint" any of you, especially since I was convinced my stay on this forum would take awhile, but it seems my membership on this forum has really run its course this time.
Only very recently did I find out some things about the Cassiopaean project that don't agree with me.
Even aside from any other differences we may have, my main issue has to do with ethics.
I vaguely knew about Laura Knight Jadzick living in a mansion in Europe, but I had no idea she asked the members of the forum to contribute and support the purchase of said castle with donations.
I also wasn't aware of the fact she put up her ouija board, cut up in smaller pieces, for sale, selling them to the highest bidders.
Perhaps I could somehow ignore the cultish aspect if it wasn't for the fact that we have, I think, different notions about the Work.
The C. project is about "sociology", if I simplify this somewhat, while I am more interested in building a relationship with God.
That being said, I have no problems calling God with the name of Jesus Christ, but identifying Him with Julius Cezar that I find problematic.
Until I figure out how to disable my profile, if any of you would like to share some final words that would be fine with me.
I wish you well on your journey, especially the ones who have been so kind as to corresponded with me, I won't forget your generosity, may you be repaid tenfold for your efforts.

dear penderecki, please do not judge too hard. nothing is perfect in this reality here. still, in their entirety, the cass remain of value.

 

[Mrs. Peel]

I vaguely knew about Laura Knight Jadzick living in a mansion in Europe, but I had no idea she asked the members of the forum to contribute and support the purchase of said castle with donations.
I also wasn't aware of the fact she put up her ouija board, cut up in smaller pieces, for sale, selling them to the highest bidders.

It's obvious you have been reading some of the "hate" websites spreading falsehood about Laura.

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

Only very recently did I find out some things about the Cassiopaean project that don't agree with me.

Hi Penderecki, The sentence above states that you found out some things. I'm not going to ask from where or how but I would like to ask you have you dug deeper or researched these things.? Who are behind these "things"?
It seems a case of obstacles being placed in your way to cause doubt and worry. The only real way to clear these doubts is to check what you have heard or read to see , in fact, if these things are true. Giving up at the starting post is tantamount to giving in so you'll never know the truth.

I hope you will give yourself some time to think it over. All the best and I think Zzartemis's idea would be a great break from your current situation, if only for a while.
Take care of yourself.

 

[hobnob]

The C. project is about "sociology", if I simplify this somewhat, while I am more interested in building a relationship with God.

I find that food for thought. To me it's the same thing: how one behaves around or with others (and understanding events in the world) reflects how one would behave towards God, if you will, and will likely to lead to treating oneself differently (either with more respect or more self-criticism, but either way with more knowledge).

(I always had different ideas about religion.)

The other things don't concern me; for one thing, maintaining the group, the work, the websites, or even just research requires financing; for another, though the part about the board sounds fabricated to me so far, I wouldn't mind buying a piece of it lol, but I'm sure it would prevent having future sessions. As for a reason for the latter, it could theoretically be a reminder of my values, or purer energies could theoretically transfer through it. That said, I don't want a piece of it; I'm merely illustrating how inoffensive the idea seems, whether or not it is slander.

Good luck to you, though we've not spoken.

 

[Maya]

I find that food for thought. To me it's the same thing: how one behaves around or with others (and understanding events in the world) reflects how one would behave towards God, if you will, and will likely to lead to treating oneself differently (either with more respect or more self-criticism, but either way with more knowledge).

That is right. Life is a religion. No matter where you are, your service to others is service to God.
And for that you must be a good desciple with guts and strenght, ready for the truth to
bite your ass sometimes even if you don't like it.

The best advice from me is maybe if you want to take time and read 'The Wave series'
( sorry, I do not recall if you have and mentioned it elsewhere) and then decide..?
Anyway wish you all the best

 

[Liliea]

You seem to be the one who is disappointed that supporters of the forum and its ideas receive voluntary donations, sell items at auction, write, publish, design and sell books based on controversial historical sociological and theological historical research in relation to the worldly education received at a university.
All of that seems perfectly acceptable to me. And I dare say that like many on this forum being part of the balance is an effort and an honor to the just the equitable and the true, the non-illusory.
So don't worry and go on your way maybe later you will see that the effort of others is worth the grief and the joy.

 

[SummerLite]

May clarity, insight and blessings accompany you on you journey. Perhaps you'll return again some day.

It's obvious you have been reading some of the "hate" websites spreading falsehood about Laura.

Yes, obvious for sure. Its seems like the same old stuff has been out there for a really long time now and as far as I know nothing new has popped up. Haven't heard about the Ouija board sell off though... how imaginative. Perhaps Laura has an old board she'd be willing to cut up and pass around, I'd frame it and hang it on my wall.

 

[Michael B-C]

To have gone from...

Hello Members of Cassioppaea Forum!
Some years ago I was a member here but somehow the whole thing related to LJK & her work with the C's faded away for me, don't remember exactly why, if there even was a why, but given my peasant background in things spiritual I am not all surprised. By peasant I mean unarticulated, infantile, my spiritual quest having started some 30 years ago in, alas, the milieu of Aleister Crowley's Thelema. Nowdays I consider the experiance as some sort of a payment of karmic debts, although the possibility of having incurred new ones exists and is far from pleasant. Eventually, I revolted and cut my ties with the o.t.o. (one of Crowley's organizations), as far as those ties are amenable to cutting. They are. But forging new ones, better ones? Not so easy. I won't bother you anymore with this, let us look ahead. Out of sheer despair I re-read, yesterday night, The Secret History of the World vol.1, to galvanize myself into some thinking at l(e)ast. I guess it went well for here I am.
A person who used to be a friend of mine once said that "I have antennas for the negative". He meant things negative in general, but especially negative energy.
I have positive ones as well, otherwise I wouldn't be here, and, believe me, this just might be about the sanest environment for me at he present time, trying as I am to deal with a severe onslaught of depression, the worst thus far, hence my choice of words for this thread.
How can one quit, I mean really quit? Suicide is on my mind, but I don't have a sucidal mind.
Ugly agony.
Some years ago I had to test myself for hiv/aids. The test came negative. That was the essence of positive news for me. Yes, I wished to live.
Somehow, though, the desire seems to be fading. You could easily add to that by offering formal encouragement. Not that I wouldn't appreciate it, far from it, it is just that I am the type of idiot that values content over form when it comes to "these" things.
But receive my sincerest thanks for giving me the chance to even speak about myself, to present what I feel is increasinlgy becoming a worthless existence. The world should have put this dog to some use long ago. It is not that I resist, something is simply wrong. Has been from day one.
Hendaye, a referrence from Fulcanelli's writngs, is not just "wave", i.e. "onde", but also end-day, but I am sure you have all figured out that one long ago. I am a big smoker and lover of tobacco!
On the forum I read about certain protective Crystals that can be acquired in exchange for a donation. As it is, I willing to invest in anything that keeps me alive. Would someone be so kind and offer a few words about them by way of explanation? Thank you so much!
Gently, I embrace you, stay strong!
But also "weak"!
Much love, Penderecki

To...

I wouldn't wish to "dissapoint" any of you, especially since I was convinced my stay on this forum would take awhile, but it seems my membership on this forum has really run its course this time.
Only very recently did I find out some things about the Cassiopaean project that don't agree with me.
Even aside from any other differences we may have, my main issue has to do with ethics.
I vaguely knew about Laura Knight Jadzick living in a mansion in Europe, but I had no idea she asked the members of the forum to contribute and support the purchase of said castle with donations.
I also wasn't aware of the fact she put up her ouija board, cut up in smaller pieces, for sale, selling them to the highest bidders.
Perhaps I could somehow ignore the cultish aspect if it wasn't for the fact that we have, I think, different notions about the Work.
The C. project is about "sociology", if I simplify this somewhat, while I am more interested in building a relationship with God.
That being said, I have no problems calling God with the name of Jesus Christ, but identifying Him with Julius Cezar that I find problematic.
Until I figure out how to disable my profile, if any of you would like to share some final words that would be fine with me.
I wish you well on your journey, especially the ones who have been so kind as to corresponded with me, I won't forget your generosity, may you be repaid tenfold for your efforts.

... in just under 10 days.

So Penderecki, you were here sometime ago. You went away. You came back. And up until 7:25am this morning you were happily sharing on your welcome page . And now you're off again.

Of course its your absolute right to leave - no one expects anyone to remain who doesn't choose it freely for themselves (though you might want to ponder upon this as you throw around that ultimate failure of an accusation, 'cult'). No one here is interested in persuading you otherwise. But as others have suggested, one is led to assume that you stumbled upon something somewhere out on the wild-west-internet, took it for the absolute light of truth, and came to this mighty conclusion without thinking of asking a single question here today concerning what it was you found and why it troubled you so easily...

I think you are right in your choice. I wish you well on your way. The deeply considered decision to open this thread rightly tells you that you don't in truth belong here.

Best of luck with chasing the same tail of a dog as ever elsewhere.

 

[Mrs. Peel]

Haven't heard about the Ouija board sell off though...

Somebody else will have to chime in here, I sort of remember them cutting up old boards but I'm pretty sure they didn't auction them off...

 

[seek10]

I wouldn't wish to "dissapoint" any of you, especially since I was convinced my stay on this forum would take awhile, but it seems my membership on this forum has really run its course this time.

This is free will world. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

Only very recently did I find out some things about the Cassiopaean project that don't agree with me.

Fair enough. Doors are open who wants it.

Even aside from any other differences we may have, my main issue has to do with ethics.
I vaguely knew about Laura Knight Jadzick living in a mansion in Europe, but I had no idea she asked the members of the forum to contribute and support the purchase of said castle with donations.
I also wasn't aware of the fact she put up her ouija board, cut up in smaller pieces, for sale, selling them to the highest bidders.

I am not sure where you read that BS. did you care to validate whatever you read is correct?

Perhaps I could somehow ignore the cultish aspect if it wasn't for the fact that we have, I think, different notions about the Work.

did you care to validate whatever you read is correct?

The C. project is about "sociology", if I simplify this somewhat, while I am more interested in building a relationship with God.

did you care to validate whatever you read is correct?

That being said, I have no problems calling God with the name of Jesus Christ, but identifying Him with Julius Cezar that I find problematic.

Fair enough. It is takes some burning to know the truth.

I wish you well on your journey, especially the ones who have been so kind as to corresponded with me, I won't forget your generosity, may you be repaid tenfold for your efforts.

same to you.

 

[SHNAGFNAY]

Obviously, there is nothing wrong with receiving donations. If Laura sold pieces of her boards, I don’t see that as a problem either, if that is the case.

Nobody is perfect and it is important to keep going forth. If a person claims to not have made any mistakes, I would be suspicious.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with ensuring that one’s financial and living condition along with soul, body and mind is taken care of, even if sometimes, “impending situations” require that we do what we must do, to get from where we are to where we want to be.

What one can do is be a better person when one is on the learning cycle now and not feel bad over past mistakes. It is enough to realize them, but feeling overly bad is not worth being disturbed throughout the rest of days by.

In my case I had to quit my job. I was not mentally stable enough to keep up with all the folks at work. And I have lived of the system since. And you may say I am parasite but, it is more complex and not that simple.

I watched a friend of mine drug himself heavily. Eventually he drugged himself to death, and there were a lot of personnel around him that should have done something. He was on many medications as well and saw personnel morning and evening, every day, yet they let them be used by his charisma.

All the while I was sent by police to the psychiatric ward, being drug tested and facing questioning doctors, it was in fact the people around me who were more in trouble than me where I lived at the time. I chose not to speak up about any of my neighbors there, because I would get in trouble myself and because the people there had their own problems, and I just didn’t want to snitch on them.

All I take from that hell time is that I won’t associate with other people who do deadly drugs.

So, in comparison I am worse than Laura cutting up her boards. Yet I don’t consider myself a bad person.

There is usually more than on the surface of a story. Sometimes we do make mistakes, the important thing is to grow and learn from it and think ahead instead, the best we can.

 

[forest_light]

Dear Penderecki, you have to do what feels right and natural for you.

There are so many falsehoods out there about Laura and this group, they actually make me laugh, so many of them are so utterly ridiculous outright lies or complete distortions.

Long before I joined, I researched this group 'like my life depended on it' before I joined (because it did!) taking my time to observe this group and Laura very closely, scrutinising everything. Online, I too have seen many 'perspectives' slandering Laura personally and the group collectively - but I also know the sources of where those lies/distortions come from. I took the time to research them as well as paying close attention to what Laura had to say (and others).

I will always be grateful for my own guidance / willingness to look deeper at this group... for so many reasons... because of their relentless unfailing commitment to research, rational investigation, astute highly objective observation, powerful discernment, their genuine integrity, the way they conduct themselves as an organisation, the support they offer those who ask, their diversity of thoughts and perception, their inspired, insatiable curiosity to explore a multitude of subjects and issues (I could go on). They have amassed a huge amount of genuine knowledge which they make freely available through this site. This has supported others to apply this knowledge in their own lives, liberating many from great suffering, myself included. It requires sustained effort to learn and apply this knowledge, but the rewards speak for themselves.

People have to be able to support themselves financially, so yes, people buy products and/or donate whatever they are able to, in reflection of their gratitude and appreciation for all they have received and continue to receive. There needs to be balance in the giving and receiving.

I understand it can be hard to trust any source in your journey to be closer to God, you have been taken to so many dark places through your personal path and challenges, it is clear you have been deeply wounded through these experiences and many here can relate to that. It is good that you are questioning things on a deeper level, however if you are willing to take the time to explore your concerns more deeply and research thoroughly, you may come to realise that what you are hearing 'out there' is a distortion, designed to sabotage your connection here. I completely understand and respect that you may feel 'uncomfortable', that this is not a path you want to continue to explore, it may simply be a 'frequency mismatch' - from what I have observed on this forum, it does not take long to reveal itself.

Michelle's thoughtful and loving suggestion sounds like it might bring you some grace to help centre yourself and work out what you feel you can trust.

I wish you wellbeing, light and clarity on your path.