Cutting the thread

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You know, I always find it so interesting how people can believe the lies they see by various people who have posted their trash online. I understand how upsetting it is to read it, too. The thing is, nowhere on the internet do you find anyone saying all of the really great things Laura has done for so many, many people. Not just with the Cassiopaean sessions, but with her books, like The Wave series, all the way through so many books she has written to From Paul to Mark: PaleoChristianity in finding the real truth about so many things. She has done a HUGE amount of research over a lot of years to find the answers to questions that are very important.

A lot of people's beliefs keep them blinded because they simply can't "go there" and drop the veil of lies from their eyes and minds.

Laura does not only support herself and those who live in here community with those donations that some people think is horrible; she als help others with various things. Laura and Ark and those at the Chateau (it's no a mansion, by the way) do so much for so many and are NOT splashing it all over the internet. They do it quietly and for no other reason than that's the type of people they are....they help others.

I know that if I had not stumbled upon Laura and Ark and all of the research they have done finding the truth of things and sharing it, and a lot for free, that I would be in a very bad place now in many ways.

It is true that this forum and our ways are not for everyone so there is no problem with people deciding that this is not for them. It's just really sad that they can't see the lies for what they are, or can't open their minds and drop the blinders to see what is really going on in this world. Believing lies really isn't good for the soul.
 
C'est dommage que vous nous quittiez sans avoir pris le temps de vous faire une idée par vous même de tous les bienfaits qui se trouvent sur ce forum... Toute la connaissance offerte si généreusement et depuis si longtemps par Laura...
Les livres qui lui ont pris du temps, de la fatigue, des recherches impressionnantes, tout cela offert gracieusement...
Les dons ne sont pas obligatoires, certains donnent, d'autres non, c'est indifférent pour Laura car Elle ne compte pas car Elle nous AIME d'un amour inconditionnel, n'attendant RIEN mais ouvrant toujours ses bras pour chacun...
Dommage que vous passiez à côté de tout cela...
Ce forum, c'est un phare, une famille qui s'entraide, Laura montre un chemin de Lumière, de Connaissance, d'Amour...
Libre à Vous de saisir les mains qui vous sont tendues, c'est votre droit, votre choix, votre Libre Arbitre que nous respectons par dessus tout...

It's a pity that you are leaving us without having taken the time to get an idea for yourself of all the benefits that can be found on this forum... All the knowledge offered so generously and for so long by Laura...
The books that took him time, fatigue, impressive research, all offered free of charge...
Donations are not obligatory, some give, others don't, it's indifferent for Laura because She doesn't count because She LOVES us with an unconditional love, expecting NOTHING but always opening her arms for everyone...
Too bad you missed all of this...
This forum is a beacon, a family that helps each other, Laura shows a path of Light, Knowledge, Love...
You are free to take the hands that are stretched out to you, it is your right, your choice, your Free Will that we respect above all...
 
heinrich said:
dear penderecki, please do not judge too hard. nothing is perfect in this reality here. still, in their entirety, the cass remain of value.
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of course they do, i think they have done, and are doing, tremendously important work, but i find myself at a point where i can't see any benefit from digital forums, it is too limiting, i have little energy left and don't wish to use it all up "counting likes" etc. it is suffocating, for years i've depended on the interent for my contact and meaningful interaction with likeminded people, now i need a pause,
 
Tuatha de Danaan said:
Hi Penderecki, The sentence above states that you found out some things. I'm not going to ask from where or how but I would like to ask you have you dug deeper or researched these things.? Who are behind these "things"?
It seems a case of obstacles being placed in your way to cause doubt and worry. The only real way to clear these doubts is to check what you have heard or read to see , in fact, if these things are true. Giving up at the starting post is tantamount to giving in so you'll never know the truth.

I hope you will give yourself some time to think it over. All the best and I think Zzartemis's idea would be a great break from your current situation, if only for a while.
Take care of yourself.
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you are right, i will look into it, thank you.
 
Michael B-C said:
To have gone from...



To...


... in just under 10 days.

So Penderecki, you were here sometime ago. You went away. You came back. And up until 7:25am this morning you were happily sharing on your welcome page . And now you're off again.

Of course its your absolute right to leave - no one expects anyone to remain who doesn't choose it freely for themselves (though you might want to ponder upon this as you throw around that ultimate failure of an accusation, 'cult'). No one here is interested in persuading you otherwise. But as others have suggested, one is led to assume that you stumbled upon something somewhere out on the wild-west-internet, took it for the absolute light of truth, and came to this mighty conclusion without thinking of asking a single question here today concerning what it was you found and why it troubled you so easily...

I think you are right in your choice. I wish you well on your way. The deeply considered decision to open this thread rightly tells you that you don't in truth belong here.

Best of luck with chasing the same tail of a dog as ever elsewhere.
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Thank you. What questions? Are you telling me those are fabrications? I am not going anywhere, I decided to stay, at least for a while but i find your reaction too vehement, as if you were offended (???), i apologize if i ofended you in any way,
point is, even if i did leave - my "frequency" would continue transmitting on the same wavelength(s), i don't see any essential "falling out" between me and the rest of them members.
but i feel tired all the time, i can't write, or even read any computer stuff any more, it is making me agressive and nervous, i don't particularly like this digital business, and, to tell the truth, i think this website/forum, intricate as it is, would benefit from some refreshing design wise, it is too abstruse, at least for me anyway.
i intent to read in peace and quiet the paleochristianity material, until then i won't be posting, that's all.
"in just under 10 days"...yes the past ten days have been the most intense of my life so far, they were not pleasant but they were intense, to put it mildly.
and you say..."you don't in truth belong there"
maybe i don't, is that a crime? it is precisely these macho energies that make me cynical, for all their peadogogic potential, politicians and gym goers, god's children all.
 
Nienna said:
You know, I always find it so interesting how people can believe the lies they see by various people who have posted their trash online. I understand how upsetting it is to read it, too. The thing is, nowhere on the internet do you find anyone saying all of the really great things Laura has done for so many, many people. Not just with the Cassiopaean sessions, but with her books, like The Wave series, all the way through so many books she has written to From Paul to Mark: PaleoChristianity in finding the real truth about so many things. She has done a HUGE amount of research over a lot of years to find the answers to questions that are very important.

A lot of people's beliefs keep them blinded because they simply can't "go there" and drop the veil of lies from their eyes and minds.

Laura does not only support herself and those who live in here community with those donations that some people think is horrible; she als help others with various things. Laura and Ark and those at the Chateau (it's no a mansion, by the way) do so much for so many and are NOT splashing it all over the internet. They do it quietly and for no other reason than that's the type of people they are....they help others.

I know that if I had not stumbled upon Laura and Ark and all of the research they have done finding the truth of things and sharing it, and a lot for free, that I would be in a very bad place now in many ways.

It is true that this forum and our ways are not for everyone so there is no problem with people deciding that this is not for them. It's just really sad that they can't see the lies for what they are, or can't open their minds and drop the blinders to see what is really going on in this world. Believing lies really isn't good for the soul.
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i am too tired to write, and don't even wish to defend myself, yes, i fell for what you say were lies, but it is all a matter of perspective, laura has helped me through her work as well, and rest assured that "cutting the thread" was not meant in a political way, you guys are with me, in my heart, i feel you, you are in my prayers, both as a collective and individually - those that helped me with their answers, suggestions, or simply replied in a kind way.
 
Liliea said:
You seem to be the one who is disappointed that supporters of the forum and its ideas receive voluntary donations, sell items at auction, write, publish, design and sell books based on controversial historical sociological and theological historical research in relation to the worldly education received at a university.
All of that seems perfectly acceptable to me. And I dare say that like many on this forum being part of the balance is an effort and an honor to the just the equitable and the true, the non-illusory.
So don't worry and go on your way maybe later you will see that the effort of others is worth the grief and the joy.
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what is tiresome as well is this: please, understand that english is my second language, IT TAKES ME LOTS OF ENERGY TO EXPRESS MYSELF SUCCINTLY, AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS SOUND THE WAY I INTENDED, NOT THAT THAT IT COMES OUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT OR WRONG -BUT AN EMPHASIS I FAIL TO ARTICULATE MAKES ME STAY UP AND PONDER GRAMATICAL ISSUES AT HAND, i wish i was able to express myself with less struggle, yes, i struggle with gramatics, and the dictionaries are so heavy 🙃:lkj:🤣
 
hobnob said:
I find that food for thought. To me it's the same thing: how one behaves around or with others (and understanding events in the world) reflects how one would behave towards God, if you will, and will likely to lead to treating oneself differently (either with more respect or more self-criticism, but either way with more knowledge).

(I always had different ideas about religion.)

The other things don't concern me; for one thing, maintaining the group, the work, the websites, or even just research requires financing; for another, though the part about the board sounds fabricated to me so far, I wouldn't mind buying a piece of it lol, but I'm sure it would prevent having future sessions. As for a reason for the latter, it could theoretically be a reminder of my values, or purer energies could theoretically transfer through it. That said, I don't want a piece of it; I'm merely illustrating how inoffensive the idea seems, whether or not it is slander.

Good luck to you, though we've not spoken.
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Thank you, much appreciated!
 
Shnagfnie said:
Obviously, there is nothing wrong with receiving donations. If Laura sold pieces of her boards, I don’t see that as a problem either, if that is the case.

Nobody is perfect and it is important to keep going forth. If a person claims to not have made any mistakes, I would be suspicious.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with ensuring that one’s financial and living condition along with soul, body and mind is taken care of, even if sometimes, “impending situations” require that we do what we must do, to get from where we are to where we want to be.

What one can do is be a better person when one is on the learning cycle now and not feel bad over past mistakes. It is enough to realize them, but feeling overly bad is not worth being disturbed throughout the rest of days by.

In my case I had to quit my job. I was not mentally stable enough to keep up with all the folks at work. And I have lived of the system since. And you may say I am parasite but, it is more complex and not that simple.

I watched a friend of mine drug himself heavily. Eventually he drugged himself to death, and there were a lot of personnel around him that should have done something. He was on many medications as well and saw personnel morning and evening, every day, yet they let them be used by his charisma.

All the while I was sent by police to the psychiatric ward, being drug tested and facing questioning doctors, it was in fact the people around me who were more in trouble than me where I lived at the time. I chose not to speak up about any of my neighbors there, because I would get in trouble myself and because the people there had their own problems, and I just didn’t want to snitch on them.

All I take from that hell time is that I won’t associate with other people who do deadly drugs.

So, in comparison I am worse than Laura cutting up her boards. Yet I don’t consider myself a bad person.

There is usually more than on the surface of a story. Sometimes we do make mistakes, the important thing is to grow and learn from it and think ahead instead, the best we can.
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thank you ❤️
much love, penderecki
 
Penderecki, I am glad that you may be staying a bit longer. And I am so sorry that it is so difficult for you to converse digitally. I decided I had a few more things to say about the ugly things people say about Laura, but I don't want you to think they are aimed at you. This is for anyone interested and who may be wondering about these lies said by others.

It should be known that those people who have said such ugly things about Laura are mostly people who have wanted to control Laura and her connection with the Cassiopaeans for their own selfish reasons. When Laura would not let that happen, they started their lies about her in order to hurt her credibility. Some were regular people who just wanted the fame. But there were/are those who practice magic or are into witchcraft. Yes, they do exist and many are into the evil aspect of those groups. If you have read The Wave series you know about this. If you haven't read The Wave series, maybe you should, especially if you want to find out the truth of matters. Also, quite a bit has been told in Amazing Grace that talks about Laura's early life.

A question, or statement, in anthers thread asks why the Cs would "lie" to Laura in the early sessions. It was explained that the Cs won't go against anyone's free will and since Laura, and/or others at those sessions held firm beliefs about certain things, the Cs had to be very creative in what they answered in those sessions. I don't say they were lies that's what someone else called them.

Many of us here have read the Ra material. I did and I owned all 5 books that were published. Ra also did the same thing. The Ra group mainly and mostly focused on "love and light". Don Elkins did try to ask questions about the "bad guys" (STS beings), but the questions were always steered away from it as the others wanted to only focus on good and nice things. Hence, Don Elkins ended up taking his own life. If the questions were asked about things going on, he could have been warned that he was under attack by the STS forces, but, as a group, they decided they didn't want to focus on the "bad" stuff. Well, why didn't Ra wanr him anyway? Because he was repecting their free will, just as the Cassiopaeans do.

fwiw
 
I too, am glad you are staying and have decided to reassess how you felt about what you read on the internet. I often see people double down when presented with information opposite to what they had initially believed, so well done on that front.
Penderecki said:
I won't forget your generosity, may you be repaid tenfold for your efforts.
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In terms of donations (which people give gladly of their own free will) I think this is the perfect way to view what it is they are donating for. Everything on this forum, and all Laura's work has been generously offered for free, and that energy has been offered back in the form of financial help to keep the whole show running by many of the members here. Long may it continue.

Edit: spelling
 
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