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Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
You can tell him he wasn't banned, but just prevented from posting. He can still read at his leisure, and surely reading the forum is a good 50% of involvement? Well, at least for those who are actually interested in the information here rather than the sound of their own keyboard.
Spiral Out said:
You can tell him he wasn't banned, but just prevented from posting. He can still read at his leisure, and surely reading the forum is a good 50% of involvement? Well, at least for those who are actually interested in the information here rather than the sound of their own keyboard.
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
Ben, on the topic of psychopaths, you might want to read the following (though I doubt you will).
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/182/1/5.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18327824
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/biological_explanation_psychopaths
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090804090946.htm
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/159877.php
You will notice that all of this research directly contradicts that twisted nonsense that TS concocts.
Ben, on the topic of psychopaths, you might want to read the following (though I doubt you will).
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/182/1/5.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18327824
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/biological_explanation_psychopaths
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090804090946.htm
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/159877.php
You will notice that all of this research directly contradicts that twisted nonsense that TS concocts.
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
What I find highly entertaining (read funny) is that he keeps using terms like "logical fallacy" while engaging in serious and repetitive logical fallacies. It's like one of those guys who hears the term 'quantum' and then uses it in all sorts of inapplicable ways. At first, I thought that he just wasn't very bright and I think that's part of it, but his tenacity in his ignorance is fascinating. I mean, who really thinks they're right all the time when they're that far off? The complete lack of self-doubt speaks to pathology, pure and simple, and perhaps that's the real issue here - he lives in a world populated only by himself and "hopes" others will follow him and when they don't, they're wrong. Sott only carried his one article after it had been heavily edited by Perceval to make it readable, so it's not like he's even good at that. Must be a terrible way to live. I honestly had hopes that he'd just read and maybe learn something, but now we know that was not why he was here in the first place, he was here to "help us" - dear lord...
What I find highly entertaining (read funny) is that he keeps using terms like "logical fallacy" while engaging in serious and repetitive logical fallacies. It's like one of those guys who hears the term 'quantum' and then uses it in all sorts of inapplicable ways. At first, I thought that he just wasn't very bright and I think that's part of it, but his tenacity in his ignorance is fascinating. I mean, who really thinks they're right all the time when they're that far off? The complete lack of self-doubt speaks to pathology, pure and simple, and perhaps that's the real issue here - he lives in a world populated only by himself and "hopes" others will follow him and when they don't, they're wrong. Sott only carried his one article after it had been heavily edited by Perceval to make it readable, so it's not like he's even good at that. Must be a terrible way to live. I honestly had hopes that he'd just read and maybe learn something, but now we know that was not why he was here in the first place, he was here to "help us" - dear lord...
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
Isn't it fascinating how it plays out exactly the same every time? You've only seen it live a couple of times. Just wait! It gets more interesting when other pathologies get exposed.
I think Approaching Infinity could give us the Dabrowski run-down on it but basically, the Dunning-Kruger thing applies rather well.
Spiral Out said:
Isn't it fascinating how it plays out exactly the same every time? You've only seen it live a couple of times. Just wait! It gets more interesting when other pathologies get exposed.
I think Approaching Infinity could give us the Dabrowski run-down on it but basically, the Dunning-Kruger thing applies rather well.
Gimpy
The Living Force
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
What I find amazing (as in, I can't wrap my head around it) is the consistent refusal to read...anything! I mean, the guide lines cannot be made any clearer...the research is all here....what is up with this basic refusal to read it?
Why is that so impossibly hard?
Perceval said:
What I find amazing (as in, I can't wrap my head around it) is the consistent refusal to read...anything! I mean, the guide lines cannot be made any clearer...the research is all here....what is up with this basic refusal to read it?
Why is that so impossibly hard?
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
I think it's because he had an agenda. He never sincerely wanted to learn, nor did he have any interest in truly understanding the foundations which this forum is based on. He wanted to "help us", to teach us the error of our ways. Anything else beyond that just got in his way.
Gimpy said:
I think it's because he had an agenda. He never sincerely wanted to learn, nor did he have any interest in truly understanding the foundations which this forum is based on. He wanted to "help us", to teach us the error of our ways. Anything else beyond that just got in his way.
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
It is always fascinating to observe weirdos who try to force their way into others. There was also that weird attitude toward new members to say: I'm here if you have any questions, or something like that. It can be conscious or unconscious, but it looks like those instances where a predator isolates a pray in order to feed on it. In any case, it is always a good opportunity to learn about others and about some mechanical aspects of ourselves. The pathological persistence and cognitive dissonance are some other aspects that are obvious from the above exchanges too IMHO.
It is always fascinating to observe weirdos who try to force their way into others. There was also that weird attitude toward new members to say: I'm here if you have any questions, or something like that. It can be conscious or unconscious, but it looks like those instances where a predator isolates a pray in order to feed on it. In any case, it is always a good opportunity to learn about others and about some mechanical aspects of ourselves. The pathological persistence and cognitive dissonance are some other aspects that are obvious from the above exchanges too IMHO.
truth seeker
The Living Force
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
Personally, I found the above in bold to be almost jaw dropping.mkrnhr said:
Tempus Fugit
Jedi
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
I wonder if (because it seems so) sometimes one's attachments go into overdrive when someone is on the brink of learning something that would potentially threaten the food supply - the head gets noisy, the various I's get louder and louder; General Law ups the ante, regardless of whether or not the person is even aware of such things.
It seems that he doesn't have the tool of Self Observation, in which case isn't he then dominated by and subjected to the reactions of the predator's mind and potential attachments? If that's the case, then it appears there really isn't any 'He'....rather a compilation of I's, programs, and interjected thoughts by who knows what that he probably has no way of differentiating. It seems then that he's sort of in his in his own way (provided we're not dealing with an agent intentionally placed here for shenanigans).
Had some exchanges with this person on the fb thread, basically to see whatever there is to see - how he reacts, how he responds, does he go on the attack, etc, and why I would speak in the first place. I don't doubt that it gets more interesting and that I have much to learn. Time will tell I suppose and all is lessons.
Gimpy said:
I wonder if (because it seems so) sometimes one's attachments go into overdrive when someone is on the brink of learning something that would potentially threaten the food supply - the head gets noisy, the various I's get louder and louder; General Law ups the ante, regardless of whether or not the person is even aware of such things.
Heimdallr said:
It seems that he doesn't have the tool of Self Observation, in which case isn't he then dominated by and subjected to the reactions of the predator's mind and potential attachments? If that's the case, then it appears there really isn't any 'He'....rather a compilation of I's, programs, and interjected thoughts by who knows what that he probably has no way of differentiating. It seems then that he's sort of in his in his own way (provided we're not dealing with an agent intentionally placed here for shenanigans).
Laura said:
Had some exchanges with this person on the fb thread, basically to see whatever there is to see - how he reacts, how he responds, does he go on the attack, etc, and why I would speak in the first place. I don't doubt that it gets more interesting and that I have much to learn. Time will tell I suppose and all is lessons.
obyvatel
The Living Force
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
Some of the stuff Lobaczewski wrote about may be applicable here:
[quote author=Political Ponerology]
Pathological egotism derives from repressing from one's field of consciousness any objectionable, self-critical associations referring to one's own nature or normality. Dramatic questions such as "who is abnormal here, me or this world of people who feel and think differently?" are answered in the world's disfavor. Such egotism is always linked to a dissimulative attitude (hiding one's true intentions), with a Cleckley mask over some pathological quality being hidden from consciousness, both one's own and that of other people. The greatest intensity of such egotism can be found in prefrontal characteropathy.
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Lobaczewski states that the dominant factor in prefrontal characteropathy is a damage to the psychological function which "enables us to grasp a certain number of imaginary elements in our field of consciousness and subject them to internal contemplation." This capacity does not have a strong correlation with general intelligence and does not impair associative capacity or memory or instinct based feelings and functions like the ability to intuit a psychological situation. The non-damaged psychological functions become overdeveloped to compensate the short-coming.
[quote author=Political Ponerology]
In the thought process of such people, a short-cut way develops which bypasses the handicapped function, thus leading from associations directly to words, deeds and decisions which are not subject to any dissuasion. Such individuals interpret their talent for intuiting situations and making split-second oversimplified decisions as a sign of their superiority compared to normal people, who need to think for long time, experiencing self-doubt and conflicting motivations.
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Such characters are also inclined towards exerting influence on others through spellbinding.
It seems at least some of the above qualities were on display in this situation. It is likely that the "dissimulative attitude" was at play right from the beginning which was covered up by a mask of being curious and questioning everything. The reluctance to do the reading as well as cherry-picking certain data to cast aspersions on what is done here was apparent.
As one example among others, after being asked to do the required reading which is asked of every member here, among other things there was this thread on hypnosis Summary of Hypnosis Capabilities: No use in recovering memories . Here he wrote
[quote author=benbuehne]
I bring this to light because of some healthy skepticism. As I read through some of the material I see hypnosis is relied upon a decent amount. I wonder about some of the information provided due to hypnosis. I was hoping that some of these concerns could be put to rest by some forum members.
[/quote]
yet from the title of the thread it seemed that the conclusion had already been reached. Good faith attempts by forumites to address the issues raised was largely brushed off with a perfunctory agreement moving on to other topics.
Some of the stuff Lobaczewski wrote about may be applicable here:
[quote author=Political Ponerology]
Pathological egotism derives from repressing from one's field of consciousness any objectionable, self-critical associations referring to one's own nature or normality. Dramatic questions such as "who is abnormal here, me or this world of people who feel and think differently?" are answered in the world's disfavor. Such egotism is always linked to a dissimulative attitude (hiding one's true intentions), with a Cleckley mask over some pathological quality being hidden from consciousness, both one's own and that of other people. The greatest intensity of such egotism can be found in prefrontal characteropathy.
[/quote]
Lobaczewski states that the dominant factor in prefrontal characteropathy is a damage to the psychological function which "enables us to grasp a certain number of imaginary elements in our field of consciousness and subject them to internal contemplation." This capacity does not have a strong correlation with general intelligence and does not impair associative capacity or memory or instinct based feelings and functions like the ability to intuit a psychological situation. The non-damaged psychological functions become overdeveloped to compensate the short-coming.
[quote author=Political Ponerology]
In the thought process of such people, a short-cut way develops which bypasses the handicapped function, thus leading from associations directly to words, deeds and decisions which are not subject to any dissuasion. Such individuals interpret their talent for intuiting situations and making split-second oversimplified decisions as a sign of their superiority compared to normal people, who need to think for long time, experiencing self-doubt and conflicting motivations.
[/quote]
Such characters are also inclined towards exerting influence on others through spellbinding.
It seems at least some of the above qualities were on display in this situation. It is likely that the "dissimulative attitude" was at play right from the beginning which was covered up by a mask of being curious and questioning everything. The reluctance to do the reading as well as cherry-picking certain data to cast aspersions on what is done here was apparent.
As one example among others, after being asked to do the required reading which is asked of every member here, among other things there was this thread on hypnosis Summary of Hypnosis Capabilities: No use in recovering memories . Here he wrote
[quote author=benbuehne]
I bring this to light because of some healthy skepticism. As I read through some of the material I see hypnosis is relied upon a decent amount. I wonder about some of the information provided due to hypnosis. I was hoping that some of these concerns could be put to rest by some forum members.
[/quote]
yet from the title of the thread it seemed that the conclusion had already been reached. Good faith attempts by forumites to address the issues raised was largely brushed off with a perfunctory agreement moving on to other topics.
Bernhard
Jedi Master
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
I just received this message from benbuehne:
I have no idea why he apologizes to me and asks for "forgiveness". He could have posted this on the post he made on my wall or even mention this on the forum today. I also don't think that his "fever" is the only issue here.
I just received this message from benbuehne:
I have no idea why he apologizes to me and asks for "forgiveness". He could have posted this on the post he made on my wall or even mention this on the forum today. I also don't think that his "fever" is the only issue here.
Re: Re: Scans that show Brain of neglected child is smaller
Well he's been demonstrating this behaviour ever since he got here, pretty long fever if you ask me!
Plus, imagining that it was all caused by illness, someone who lacks the insight to see how this 'illness' is consistently affecting their heads and still continues to post noise is not cut out for this, imo.
The mod's analyses seem spot on right now.
Spiral Out said:
Well he's been demonstrating this behaviour ever since he got here, pretty long fever if you ask me!
Plus, imagining that it was all caused by illness, someone who lacks the insight to see how this 'illness' is consistently affecting their heads and still continues to post noise is not cut out for this, imo.
The mod's analyses seem spot on right now.
