In fairness, the BBC is the national broadcasting service and they have an agreed policy with Buckingham Palace to broadcast all important events or matters pertaining to the Royal Family. This includes royal marriages and deaths. When the Queen Mother died, there was lengthy broadcasting of her lying in state and people coming to pay their respects as well as her state funeral. The same was true of Princess Diana. From what I saw of the broadcasts, many of the programmes seemed to be recycled documentaries on Prince Phillip. Hence, I don't see anything ghoulish in it.
Death of Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh at 99 years of age.
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JeanSchemit
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The youtube link is working for me,
BUT Snopes say it's a fake video for a promotion.
"That clip, in turn, was a stealth promotion created for the upcoming premiere of the E! Entertainment television series “The Royals,” a “drama about a fictional British Royal family who inhabit a world of luxury and regal tradition that also involves intrigue and unexpected twists, revealing the complexities faced by royals trying to maintain high-profile relationships under scrutiny"
Weird stuff. I searched for it directly on YouTube and nothing came up. Same thing goes for a google search. But I could open it on YouTube from your post without issues
Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And Snopes can't be all fake becuase they'd be too obvious. The trick is to sandwich lies in between truth. This way they're much easier to swallow. So I wouldn't jump to conclusions that it's not fake just because Snopes says it is.
Here is the show, it was recorded for American prime time tv. Good way to advertise it, that video above was viewed by millions.
Sometimes Snopes is right. Just like how sometimes the government doesn't lie. It might be surprising and rare, but it does happen.
Like Ant22 said, they have to be right at least some of the time in order to have some semblance of reputability.
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Does it look like a child to you? There was a story a while back about a man that broke in (or stayed in) the palace and got into the queen's bed chamber at night, woke her up. But that would have been at night. Not sure how he got out, probably with a heavy escort.Weird stuff. I searched for it directly on YouTube and nothing came up. Same thing goes for a google search. But I could open it on YouTube from your post without issues
Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And Snopes can't be all fake becuase they'd be too obvious. The trick is to sandwich lies in between truth. This way they're much easier to swallow. So I wouldn't jump to conclusions that it's not fake just because Snopes says it is.
happyliza
The Living Force
Last year I felt the need to read up and study more about our Queenie and Prince Philip. I had heard all the negative and far fetched slurs and deep inside it just did not resonate with how I felt about the royal couple and the adoration they had from the public - including the Queen mother on old TV programmes. Plus I guess there was some feeling of sentimentality there too as they seemed to be a 'constant' in my whole life and upbringing and I was named after her - who I respect the same as I do my own mother.
I found an appopriate book in our library here and got so engrossed I just could not put it down! Plus most of the way through I was thinking to myself what great role models these people are for me and others - just like you are reading romantic fiction for the same reasons atm. Well, to me, I think this book should also be added to your reading list! I benefited from so many angles of service, duty, patience, virtue - a huge list that also luckily did not dig up any dirt but also attempted to objectively explain the accusations to the contrary. True ow not was totally irrelevant due to what I gained from understanding the sacrifices this incredible couple made of their entire lifetime imo. It was truly a very moving and stoical learning experience for me.
Plus I will keep them up there with Putin and Caesar as my role models - as each contributed different aspects of their personalities for me to learn and benefit from emulating.
For those who are strong enough to contain their ideas about this royal couple and both their parents, I hope you gain as much as I did from genuinely wishing to 'know' more about these human beings, as I did as I realized last year they would not be with us sadly much longer.
I also much enjoyed the Songs of Praise dedication to Prince Philip this Sunday and all the hymns Aled Jones chose.
Needless to say the book has gone viral and is going for silly prices but you may find one in a library:
Enjoy
Philip and Elizabeth: Portrait of a Marriage: Amazon.co.uk: Brandreth, Gyles: 9780712661034: Books
Buy Philip and Elizabeth: Portrait of a Marriage First Edition by Brandreth, Gyles (ISBN: 9780712661034) from Amazon's Book Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.
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Medieval Ireland elected its kings. Candidates were drawn from an elite pool though, usually 'the ruling family'. Attention was paid to ensuring that the elected king was "free from all personal deformities or blemishes likely to impair his efficiency or to lessen the respect of the people for him."
Source: libraryireland.com
happyliza
The Living Force
Forgot to mention the huge role that FAITH played and encompassed the Queens life. I feel this was exceedingly important especially at a time when most were deserting faith of any kind. How important it is to know that her decisions were based on this faith too!! She was incredibly devout and Prince Philip too really explored all religions and a huge percentage of his library was on such and other very serious and in depth subjects. Shame they did not know about Caesar but still her faith was fundamental and that is what is important imo.
Getting back to the passing of Prince Philip, here's the interesting twist regarding his funeral:
Prince Philip's funeral arrangements have been announced with the proceedings scaled down due to coronavirus restrictions.
The Duke of Edinburgh was said to have wanted little fuss at the service and he is not having a state funeral in line with his wishes.
He will not lie in state and his body remains at rest within a private chapel in Windsor Castle.
Watch and follow live coverage of Prince Philip's funeral service on Sky News from 12.30pm on Saturday
His funeral arrangements are codenamed Forth Bridge, after the Scottish landmark and UNESCO World Heritage Site.
The plans have been in place for many years and were often updated and reviewed by Buckingham Palace staff in consultation with the Queen and Prince Philip himself.
Final alterations were made to Operation Forth Bridge to ensure proceedings were in line with coronavirus measures.
Where will the funeral take place?
Buckingham Palace has announced that the Duke of Edinburgh's ceremonial royal funeral will take place on Saturday 17 April in St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle.
What coronavirus measures will be in place at the service?
The arrangements will be fully in line with government guidance and guests will be adhering to social distancing rules.
Coronavirus measures mean only 30 people will be allowed to attend.
Around 800 people were set to be invited under planning that took place before the pandemic.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said he will not attend in order to free up a space for others.
No public processions will take place and people are being urged not to turn up at royal residences.
Who will be attending?
Prince Harry is in quarantine in the UK after flying over from Los Angeles, The Sun reports.
Buckingham Palace had confirmed he would be making the journey, but Meghan has been advised not to travel because she is heavily pregnant.
There is no confirmation yet on the rest of the guest list.
What proceedings will take place on the day itself?
Buckingham Palace has shared the following timeline of what will happen on the afternoon of the funeral.
Palace officials have said Sky News and other broadcasters will have positions in Windsor allowing them to provide "dignified media coverage".
READ FULL TIMELINE
The coffin will emerge and the Bearer Party will place it onto a specially modified Land Rover, which Philip helped to design, to transport it to St George's Chapel.
The procession from the state entrance to the West Steps of the chapel will take eight minutes.
The Prince of Wales and members of the Royal Family will take part in the procession on foot, immediately behind the duke's coffin, together with staff from Philip's household.
The route of the procession will be lined by representatives drawn from the Royal Navy, the Royal Marines, the Highlanders, 4th Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland and the Royal Air Force.
Minute guns will be fired by the King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery from the east lawn of Windsor Castle for the duration of the procession, and the Curfew Tower Bell will toll.
[...]
In keeping with coronavirus guidelines to limit guests inside the chapel, most of the procession will not enter the chapel, except for members of the Royal Family, and the duke's private secretary Archie Miller Bakewell.
The funeral service will begin as the coffin enters St George's Chapel.
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news.sky.com
Prince Philip’s Casket Will Ride to His Funeral in a Custom Land Rover He Helped Design
Additionally, other aspects of his funeral will be green:Prince Philip loved Land Rovers so much one will serve as a hearse during his funeral procession next weekend.
Prince Philip’s custom Land Rover Defender 130 Gun Bus
The casket carrying the body of the Duke of Edinburgh, who died last week at the age of 99, will be driven to its final resting place at Frogmore Gardens, on the grounds of Windsor Castle, in a custom Defender 130 Gun Bus, reports The Drive. And this isn’t just a vintage Land Rover that Queen Elizabeth II’s late husband loved, it’s one he helped design.
The green Gun Bus was hand built by Foley Specialist Vehicles and delivered to the queen’s private home, the Sandringham Estate, in 2016. Crafted to Prince Philip’s exacting specifications, this model is a decidedly luxurious take on the utility vehicle. It features an extra-long, 130-inch wheelbase, reinforced frame, entirely new rear passenger cabin, loads of hinged storage, large opening windows, two roof vents, LED lighting, a green leather interior and French Oak trim. The hulking 4x4s are used by the British Army, but we would assume the royal, who was an avid hunter, likely used his while shooting game.
It should come as no surprise that Prince Philip had such an affinity for the English SUV maker; the marque is a royal family favorite. Queen Elizabeth’s father, George IV, was presented with the 100th Land Rover after it rolled off the line in 1948, according to The Drive. And in 2016, the Queen and Prince Philip rode around Windsor Castle in a special convertible Range Rover waving at the the thousands of adoring onlookers who had gathered to wish her a happy 90th birthday. Next weekend’s procession will, of course, mark a far more somber occasion, but it seems only fitting that the prince’s final ride will in his beloved Defender.
More funeral details including CV restrictions:The public will not be allowed to view the procession due to COVID restrictions.
Prince Philip will reportedly be carried in wool coffin on electric Land Rover
In a nod to his longstanding environmentalism, Prince Philip will reportedly receive an eco-friendly send-off – lying in a $1,200 wool coffin carried by an electric Land Rover. The funeral Saturday…nypost.com
Prince Philip's funeral arrangements have been announced with the proceedings scaled down due to coronavirus restrictions.
The Duke of Edinburgh was said to have wanted little fuss at the service and he is not having a state funeral in line with his wishes.
He will not lie in state and his body remains at rest within a private chapel in Windsor Castle.
Watch and follow live coverage of Prince Philip's funeral service on Sky News from 12.30pm on Saturday
His funeral arrangements are codenamed Forth Bridge, after the Scottish landmark and UNESCO World Heritage Site.
The plans have been in place for many years and were often updated and reviewed by Buckingham Palace staff in consultation with the Queen and Prince Philip himself.
Final alterations were made to Operation Forth Bridge to ensure proceedings were in line with coronavirus measures.
Where will the funeral take place?
Buckingham Palace has announced that the Duke of Edinburgh's ceremonial royal funeral will take place on Saturday 17 April in St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle.
What coronavirus measures will be in place at the service?
The arrangements will be fully in line with government guidance and guests will be adhering to social distancing rules.
Coronavirus measures mean only 30 people will be allowed to attend.
Around 800 people were set to be invited under planning that took place before the pandemic.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said he will not attend in order to free up a space for others.
No public processions will take place and people are being urged not to turn up at royal residences.
Who will be attending?
Prince Harry is in quarantine in the UK after flying over from Los Angeles, The Sun reports.
Buckingham Palace had confirmed he would be making the journey, but Meghan has been advised not to travel because she is heavily pregnant.
There is no confirmation yet on the rest of the guest list.
What proceedings will take place on the day itself?
Buckingham Palace has shared the following timeline of what will happen on the afternoon of the funeral.
Palace officials have said Sky News and other broadcasters will have positions in Windsor allowing them to provide "dignified media coverage".
READ FULL TIMELINE
The coffin will emerge and the Bearer Party will place it onto a specially modified Land Rover, which Philip helped to design, to transport it to St George's Chapel.
The procession from the state entrance to the West Steps of the chapel will take eight minutes.
The Prince of Wales and members of the Royal Family will take part in the procession on foot, immediately behind the duke's coffin, together with staff from Philip's household.
The route of the procession will be lined by representatives drawn from the Royal Navy, the Royal Marines, the Highlanders, 4th Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland and the Royal Air Force.
Minute guns will be fired by the King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery from the east lawn of Windsor Castle for the duration of the procession, and the Curfew Tower Bell will toll.
[...]
In keeping with coronavirus guidelines to limit guests inside the chapel, most of the procession will not enter the chapel, except for members of the Royal Family, and the duke's private secretary Archie Miller Bakewell.
The funeral service will begin as the coffin enters St George's Chapel.
READ MORE
Prince Philip: What we know about Duke of Edinburgh's funeral arrangements - codenamed Operation Forth Bridge
Prince Philip's funeral arrangements have been announced with the proceedings scaled down due to coronavirus restrictions.
Sol Logos
The Living Force
For me it helps to put other people’s conclusions about the British Royal Family into the I don’t know basket. It’s an uncomfortable place to have many things in that basket. My sense of certainty and subsequent feeling of control goes away with each new thing I put into it.
In fact the more I learn, the more stuff goes there. I can better come to terms with that or fight against it. That fight i see like punching into an unbreakable wall of reality. It is a fight I predict I’ll always come out second best - at worst, I might find out how far I can push my own personal suffering. Is that really a lesson worth learning? There’s likely a lot more productive and helpful things I might learn instead.
I’ve been on this forum for a little while and remaining has lead me to put many of my firmly held beliefs, or sacred cows aside and question myself about how I know those to be true.
One principle that has helped me is to consider the premise of what is a fact. A fact requires both compelling evidence and at least 2 but preferably more credible first-hand sources / witnesses / testimonies. Most of my sacred cows fall far short from that level of scrutiny. What tends to remain is hearsay upon hearsay and opinions, some more or less valuable.
This is not to say I don’t have opinions or lead to believe things to be true and act accordingly. I acknowledge I will unlikely have all the facts at hand, and even if I do, that I have the capacity to understand them fully. There are others that do in their areas of expertise who I might lean on. But sometimes I’ve got to figure things out firsthand. It’s perhaps the reason it’s important to get better acquainted with what people call gut instinct or conscience etc. And I suppose it’s also about being comfortable with the unknown. Perhaps that goes together.
Anyway, not exactly on topic. Was some of my reflections on this topic, for what’s that’s worth.
In fact the more I learn, the more stuff goes there. I can better come to terms with that or fight against it. That fight i see like punching into an unbreakable wall of reality. It is a fight I predict I’ll always come out second best - at worst, I might find out how far I can push my own personal suffering. Is that really a lesson worth learning? There’s likely a lot more productive and helpful things I might learn instead.
I’ve been on this forum for a little while and remaining has lead me to put many of my firmly held beliefs, or sacred cows aside and question myself about how I know those to be true.
One principle that has helped me is to consider the premise of what is a fact. A fact requires both compelling evidence and at least 2 but preferably more credible first-hand sources / witnesses / testimonies. Most of my sacred cows fall far short from that level of scrutiny. What tends to remain is hearsay upon hearsay and opinions, some more or less valuable.
This is not to say I don’t have opinions or lead to believe things to be true and act accordingly. I acknowledge I will unlikely have all the facts at hand, and even if I do, that I have the capacity to understand them fully. There are others that do in their areas of expertise who I might lean on. But sometimes I’ve got to figure things out firsthand. It’s perhaps the reason it’s important to get better acquainted with what people call gut instinct or conscience etc. And I suppose it’s also about being comfortable with the unknown. Perhaps that goes together.
Anyway, not exactly on topic. Was some of my reflections on this topic, for what’s that’s worth.
LOL and there was me believing that they had a big punch up on the Hill of Tara and the last man standing got the crown.
Yeah, first of all, that's clearly a man, and secondly, it's a promo video for a US soap opera. It's this kind of thing that has, over the years, led to the "satanic royals" nonsense.
@Joe it is the video they linked above, allegedly it was shot by Swedish tourist on a tour of London.
The fact that Snopes “debunked” it made me even more suspicious- how appropriate would it be to use Buckingham palace for a marketing stunt of this kind? IMO highly unlikely.
Not sure - these days you can not trust anything.
On the other hand I am aware that my highly unfavourable bias towards any British royal stems from unspeakable atrocities committed in the name of British crown. I always see any member of royal family through these glasses.
Prince Phillip’s uncle Mountbatten - who was assassinated by IRA was a proven pedophile and likely a psychopath too. His persona and different statements over the years dont help.
So its very hard for me to muster any compassion for them.
But this thread was a big learning curve for me.
On more trivial note - my big bone of contention with them is the fact that they make use of homeopathy both fthemselves and their animals yet they did nothing to defend veterinary homeopathy which has been under egregious attacks in UK for the last decade or so.
The fact that Snopes “debunked” it made me even more suspicious- how appropriate would it be to use Buckingham palace for a marketing stunt of this kind? IMO highly unlikely.
Not sure - these days you can not trust anything.
On the other hand I am aware that my highly unfavourable bias towards any British royal stems from unspeakable atrocities committed in the name of British crown. I always see any member of royal family through these glasses.
Prince Phillip’s uncle Mountbatten - who was assassinated by IRA was a proven pedophile and likely a psychopath too. His persona and different statements over the years dont help.
So its very hard for me to muster any compassion for them.
But this thread was a big learning curve for me.
On more trivial note - my big bone of contention with them is the fact that they make use of homeopathy both fthemselves and their animals yet they did nothing to defend veterinary homeopathy which has been under egregious attacks in UK for the last decade or so.
It reminds me of couple of videos I saw shared on FB of "Israeli atrocities against Palestinians". Mind you, there is plenty of evidence of this really happening, so this issue is definitely not in question. But these particular videos didn't portray Israeli soldiers. But people shared them without checking, and also due to lack of knowledge or understanding.
I also saw other examples of a similar approach with weather events and other things.
That's what happens in the era of insta-sharing and liking.
On one hand, don't have sympathy for Israel if once in a while something being shared that they didn't actually do. On the other, this kind of thing can also be used to later debunk authentic stuff.
