Defense against the psychopath

It is really worth a watch and summarizes lots of things imo. Also as others have already stated, it sounds really sometimes like Laura, Lobaczewski or the QFG work. Unfortunately on his page (of the book) he doesn't give references in the book preview nor in the recommended reading section, to get a clue from where he got the thoughts.

Also as noted it is not available on amazon, but here: _http://www.lulu.com/product/file-download/the-art-of-urban-survival-a-family-safety-and-self-defense-manual/15831380

You can also by a pdf which sounds interesting (fast and cheaper) to get into that book and behind the background sources, but on the first glance of the book (style, formatting) it is not well set up and looks cheap imo.


Laura said:
Just wrote the following email to the author of the text:

[…]

Did you receive an answer yet?

And is anybody going for the book?

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Gawan said:
Laura said:
Just wrote the following email to the author of the text:

[…]

Did you receive an answer yet?

Yes, I did. It's satisfactory to me since, in the end, the important thing is to get the information OUT THERE!

Hi Laura

Thank you for writing and the kind words about the video.


Let me explain first that the video is taken from 15 pages of a short chapter from my book The Art of Urban Survival. This book is a glorified self-defense manual and was written in response to the many questions I received from my students during the many years I taught martial arts. The most common question was about defending oneself realistically, and while they always expected an answer that involved breaking someone’s neck, the answers I gave them were quite a disappointment to them. You see I have been around the block a few times and I know the true key to being safe is being smart, and especially street smart. However, I could never teach them much about street smarts in the context of a ten minute Q&A at the end of class. So I wrote this book in an attempt to give young people, those still the most naïve and vulnerable, a fighting chance.


Because of my many years of readings into psychopathy, I thought it essential to begin any book on self-defense with an examination of our most common predators, in the same way that, if rabbits conducted self-defense courses, their first subject would be the recognition and understanding of foxes.


The study of psychopathy is of course much too complicated to cover in detail in the context of a safety manual, so I created a Reader’s Digest version combining the key points from all the authors you mentioned, and filtered slightly through my own experience.


For example, I took the terms, partial psychopath, sub-clinical psychopath, sub-criminal psychopath, created psychopath, and several other terms I don’t even remember now, and used the phrase Secondary Psychopaths to describe those general principles. Again, it is not my intent to offer a debate on the semantics and definitions of these terms, but to give new readers to the subject a general idea of what is going on. I also taught First Aid and CPR and I could have explained to my students the anatomy and mechanics of arterial bleeding, or I could tell them to put direct pressure on a deep cut.


My purpose in writing about psychopathy in this book to is to address the subject outside the clinical context as though it were common knowledge to know these things, in a similar way that first aid and CPR should be common knowledge even outside the medical profession.

I know you agree that the study of this subject is vital for our survival as a species. My aim was to introduce this subject into the general discourse through the venue of self-defense and crime prevention, rather than the usual channels of psychology and sociology. The more often people come into contact with this subject, through whatever channel, the better our chances of warning humanity.


If it sounds as though I have borrowed words you have written I can only say that is was accidental or coincidental. I have not personally read your writings however, I do know of them. My wife and I often read to each and I know she has read to me from your website. She was always telling me to go to your website, but having so many interests and so little time I never got around to it. She councils child abuse victims and is my co-researcher on psychopaths so I may have absorbed something she read to me from your pages and I used similar phrases in writing the chapter, that’s quite possible.


As to lifting entire body of ideas from Lobaczewski’s "Political Ponerology" that I did not do. I arrived at similar conclusions long before I even heard of Mr. Lobaczewski.


When I was researching my first published book, The Thirty Six Strategies of Ancient China, my research took me through Machiavelli and Clausewitz to Sun Tzu and Miyamoto Musashi. I began to realize that I would have made a terrible general because I did not have the ruthlessness and lack of conscience needed to rule. In looking for historical anecdotes to illustrate the various strategies, I read the complete histories of China, Japan, and as counter balance, ancient Rome. Throughout their histories, the same pattern repeated itself, dynasty after dynasty, emperor after emperor, always the biggest psychopath won. (With a few rare exceptions)


This spurred further research into psychopathy and it wasn’t long before I concluded that our entire culture is infected. As I said, I’m street smart and I recognize propaganda when I see it. Now I clearly see all the subtle cues urging everyone to idolize psychopaths and to try to become a psychopath too. I recognized the impossibility of ordinary people competing against ruthless psychopaths and how psychopaths would end up ruling the world. Personally, I think this is the logical conclusion most intelligent people would come to on their own after studying the subject for a couple of years.


I began making notes for a manuscript I tentatively titled Narcissus Rex, or Psychopath the King, in which I go through major historical figures from varied times and cultures, and assess them according to the psychopathy checklist. I had planned to show how these same psychopaths would devise devious systems of control and manipulation to feed off their populace.


It was only after I had written the current chapter; Defense Against the Psychopath, which included my thoughts from Narcissus Rex as well as a chapter on group and mob mentality, which I wrote, but left out of the final edit, that I read two articles about Mr. Lobaczewski. I could see that his ideas matched my own, and that he provided a clinical explanation, whereas my ideas were based on history and street smarts. I have included Mr. Lobaczewski’s Political Phonerology in my bibliography, although I have not actually read his book. I did so to provide supportive evidence to my own ideas and to promote his book as well, since I do feel that it is an important book for people to read.


In making the video, I merely read the chapter, but added my own counter-propaganda to send a secondary message as well. I am so sick of seeing these narcissists and psychopaths lionized by the media so I decided to use their very own propaganda against them. Same images, but now under the light of truth. It has been a very interesting experiment to see how people respond to the hidden meaning.


I hope you do not see me as being in competition with you, that we are on the same side, and that I did not intentionally plagiarize either yours or Lobaczewski’s works, but rather I’ve shown you how I came to these overall thoughts independently.


Finally, I never personally take credit for these ideas, but rather in my references, bibliography, and blog posts, I readily admit that the source material comes from smarter men than I and that further study should be directed to professionals such as Hare and Checkley et al.


I’ve attached a word doc of the offending chapter, where you can see that I reference everyone you mentioned except Mr. Lobaczewski since I had already completed the chapter by the time I read about his work. I was able to list his book in the bibliography however.


It never occurred to me to reference the video itself, and I don’t recall seeing any other video that does either.


While I have never proposed a theory or taken credit for any of my thoughts, because I believe in the scientific principle of providing the clinical research to back up any such theory which I do not have, and because I feel my ideas are frankly unremarkable, and easily discoverable, I will not, however, stand accused of plagiarism because that’s simply not true.


Perhaps great minds think alike, or maybe it’s because I’m half Polish?


I hope this letter answers your questions and feel free to write me with any thoughts or concerns,


Stefan
 
great video !
another one for my favourites :D

it's bracing and encouraging to see what Stefan created and understood without really knowing the work of Lobaczewski and this forum :thup:
 
I've been seeing information on psychopathy more and more on various websites. It does seem as if the word is spreading.
It's one of the few subjects that actually makes sense and is accepted and agreed on by most people. :)
 
Thanks Stefan! ;)

The best thing of all is seeing someone else joining forces by popping out from an entirely different background.
 
cassandra said:
I've been seeing information on psychopathy more and more on various websites. It does seem as if the word is spreading.
It's one of the few subjects that actually makes sense and is accepted and agreed on by most people. :)

I agree. It's spreading. In my country there's much more information available now than five years ago. (The same is happening to low carb diets.)

Seems to me that the information comes from a diversity of people, I have no idea whether some of them has read on SOTT or this forum. Or get the inspiration to seek information elsewhere, and maybe end up here afterwards, looking for more details (google search, I did, and it was a joy to find so much interesting in one place).
 
Laura said:
Yes, I did. It's satisfactory to me since, in the end, the important thing is to get the information OUT THERE!

Yes, that's the spirit that people get known to the subject of psychopathy.

I also find his way interesting, that he discovered things through studying history and could connect the dots from there to current events.
 
Gawan said:
Laura said:
Yes, I did. It's satisfactory to me since, in the end, the important thing is to get the information OUT THERE!

Yes, that's the spirit that people get known to the subject of psychopathy.

I also find his way interesting, that he discovered things through studying history and could connect the dots from there to current events.
Speaking of that, Dr Hare has what appears to be an extremely comprehensive "Key References Related to Psychopathy and the Hare Scales" page here: _http://hare.org/references/main.html

They are also offering training for "Assessing Psychopathy with the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R)" in December in Los Angeles, USA: _http://www.specializedtraining.com/p-125-los-angeles-ca-december-7-10-2011.aspx

Edit: The SSSP (Society for the Scientific Study of Psychopathy) is planning to hold a conference in Colorado, USA next year, one in New York, USA in 2013 and one in northern California, USA in 2014: _http://www.sssp1.org/index.cfm/m/23
 
Very informative video!!

The author made a comment a day ago which is currently at the top of the comments page which states:

The narrative is read from the book The Art of Urban Survival and is only a very short chapter in that book. It is a 'Reader's Digest' style chapter that combines the essential points from the writings of various experts such as Robert Hare, Hervy Checkley, Andrzej Lobaczewski, and several other researchers. I wrote it as a quick and dirty introduction to human predators. Further readings into the subject should be directed to the above mentioned authors.
 
Laura said:
Curiously, I heard a number of almost entire sentences (one complete one) that have come from my mouth/keyboard in years past as well as an entire body of ideas that are apparently derived from Lobaczewski's "Political Ponerology", sections that come almost directly from Hare's "Without Conscience" and Hare & Babiak's "Snakes in Suits" as well as Cleckley, but did not notice any citations of these sources.
Unfortunately, I think this is what holds people back from thinking videos like these contain valuable information whether or not they do. IMO every statement that cannot be labeled as "general knowledge" should be cited for authenticity purposes.
 
I had an idea recently. I also think this video to be really good and it certainly should be spread far and wide. So I thought whether we could not ask the creator of it whether he could not send us the transcript of the video's spoken text, so the translation group can make it available in many other languages and reach even those who don't speak English. What do you all think about this?
 
Enaid said:
I had an idea recently. I also think this video to be really good and it certainly should be spread far and wide. So I thought whether we could not ask the creator of it whether he could not send us the transcript of the video's spoken text, so the translation group can make it available in many other languages and reach even those who don't speak English. What do you all think about this?

I had a similar thought in my mind recently, it would be a huger project then.
 
Hubby and I watched the full length version together a few nights ago.

He had a negative reaction to it, and said it struck him as just more propaganda to make people turn on one another, and that he really didn't like the notion that psychopaths are not human.

"That just gives people the excuse to start killing anyone they don't like." He said.

I asked him how different that was from what we are seeing now across the world: The wars, cruelty, genocide, and rampant destruction. Where would he draw the line? Is it human to do these sort of things?

He said that yeah, he thought humans were quite capable of those things, but that didn't mean it was inhuman.

He then said he didn't know anyone that could be described as inhuman, and I had to call him on that.

"Think over the signs listed in the video, who have you known that fits almost all of them?" I asked.

He immediately listed about three to five names of people he'd known over the course of his life that fit the criteria. I knew most of them, and was threatened by at least one before we cut all contact off from him.

I understand why he can't accept the inhuman aspect of psychopaths. He can't imagine committing any of the atrocities these predators do without blinking, but he still can't bring himself to cut them out of the human family.

Its not something I push him on, because I had a real hard time accepting it myself, and I don't see psychopaths as separate from the human family, as they are our predators. That means we, as a species, have to learn how to deal with them as communities, families, always in groups, so that no one is separable from the whole to be attacked/damaged. That is the reason networks like this are so very important, and why knowing what predators are is invaluable.

I used to think of psychopaths as the human version of lions on the Serengeti, and I was taught by different spiritual mentors that human predators are unwitting teachers if you survive long enough to 'grok' the lessons they stand for.

Anyway, wanted to share this before I go back to cleaning and forget to. ;)
 
Yup. For people brought up on the psychopathic religious programming that everyone has a soul and "all have sinned and come short of the glory of god", it's a tough idea to take onboard.

I'm reading up on evolution and Sir Alister Hardy, the guy who came up with the aquatic ape theory, is just now talking about how predators drive evolution. It's not so much the fittest in terms of strongest or whatever, but the ones who are able to develop strategies for avoiding being eaten. There's more to it than just that, but basically, that's a significant idea. I'll be writing about the ramifications of it in terms of humans soon.
 
It's not so much the fittest in terms of strongest or whatever, but the ones who are able to develop strategies for avoiding being eaten. There's more to it than just that, but basically, that's a significant idea. I'll be writing about the ramifications of it in terms of humans soon.


Agreed! Its something human beings have forgotten, and we need to re learn it asap.
 

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