Dental Health

hlat said:
You put 25 drops of lugols in a bottle? How much saline did you put in the bottle? How much DMSO did you put in the bottle?
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You take a small empty bottle of Lugol( 12% Solution iodo-ioduree selon Lugol 30ml (iodine/iode): Amazon.fr: HygiÚne et Soins du corps ), if you kept one, of course! Then you poured two scoops of saline solution ( Physiodose serum physiologique unidose 40x5ml + 5x5ml gratis : Tous les Produits Physiodose serum physiologique unidose 40x5ml + 5x5ml gratis Pas Cher & Discount,
you add 25 drops of iodine and the amount of DMSO to make it about 50/50.

I think this explanation is clearer, please excuse me !
 
hlat said:
I'm scared by this. Did you use cloves for only a short time, or for a long time?
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Clove oil should only be used for temporary relief as prolonged use can deaden the nerve.
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If you use clove oil to get relief from a simple cavity please do no do so repeatedly as it is possible to do more harm than good in the long run - only use this remedy to make the wait for your dentist's appointment go by more easily.
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Apart from deadening the nerve, clove is a potent antibacterial. If you use it in the mouth you'll most likely end up ingesting it and prolonged use may disrupt your gut flora. Just like antibiotics, they shouldn't be taken for a long time either as long-term use will cause more problems than good.

That said, I heard many testimonials from people who used fresh clove and clove essential oil. During my recent dental issue a number of people said it really helped them with a toothache and most said the problem didn't come back. I suspect those who said clove solved the problem instead of just easing the pain may have had a bacterial infection. And come to think of this, cavities are caused by bacterial activity so it makes sense clove helps. And it's a bonus that it can numb the pain while at the same time resolving the issue.

Christine said:
For this mixture I use one of my small empty bottles of lugol, I put directly in it a dose of physiological saline + 25 drops of lugol and I complete it with liquid DMSO at 99,9 %.
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hlat said:
You put 25 drops of lugols in a bottle? How much saline did you put in the bottle? How much DMSO did you put in the bottle?
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I do something similar, minus the saline. I don't know if it applies to all salt or just Celtic/Himalayan varieties, but salt can carry iodine out of the body reducing it potency. I apply 12% iodine on a cotton bud, the same stuff I use to clean my ears, then I apply it on the gums around the affected tooth. After that I apply 99,99% pure DMSO, which is not only antibacterial but it also helps transport iodine into the tissue. It tastes vile but it doesn't burn as much as it does when it's applied anywhere else on the skin.

It resolved the problem overnight every time I tried it before, but recently this little combo didn't help and antibiotics were needed. I quickly developed symptoms of a systemic response to an infection so no wonder an internal action worked better. If your toothache only causes local symptoms and not a whole body reaction, then it may be worth a try I think.

That said, getting a scan of your teeth would be a good idea even if the toothache goes away, to not only find out what's going on with that tooth, but also check if others may be at risk of causing issues in the future. I must say that a tooth infection in the middle of a lockdown traumatised me somewhat, so I'll be getting a thorough check-up as soon as I can.
 
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Hi hlat, I'd also go for a scan just in case. You might also be interested in this mouthwash: Nature's Answer, PerioBrite, Natural Mouthwash Coolmint, 16 fl oz (480 ml)

Dentist formulated PerioBrite Natural Mouthwash contains soothing organic herbs well-known for their cleansing action, while Co-Q10, Folic Acid, Oregano, Cinnamon and Clove supports tissue and gum health.
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Based on my own experiences, whenever I have a tooth problem, vitamin C usually fixes it, though I haven't experienced the pain you mentioned. As others said I would have it checked out.
 
I saw an oral surgeon today. He's the brother of a former friend, so he did it as a courtesy for me. He found that a molar had a large, old filling that cracked and caught his dental tool. I didn't see a fracture in the CT scan, but he pointed at one cross section of the root and indicated that a fracture might have gone from the cracked filling up to the root. He mentioned getting a crown in place of the cracked filling, and cautioned that the tooth might be really sensitive after a crown, which might then require a root canal or extraction and implant. He said I should chew on the other side until this is taken care of. He recommended that I see a general practitioner and get a second opinion, so I've been playing phone tag with the general practitioner that I selected.

That cracked filling is a replacement filling that I got after having all mercury fillings removed. I'm also still wondering if this will resolve itself over time, like what happened on my right side several years ago.

My molar was really stained by I presume the Lugol's, and I was shocked by the discoloration. I'm not sure if I will continue swishing with Lugol's daily or cut back or stop.
 
I made an appointment today with a general practitioner dentist that I haven't seen before. The person making the appointment said that I would have to pay $80 for a COVID-1984 test before being seen. It would be a finger prick blood test that would show results within minutes.

After I got home from work and discussed this with my wife, I decided not to see this dentist if they insist on this test. The winning statement from my wife was that since we know this virus is no big deal, what other unnecessary and expensive tests and procedures will this dentist recommend?

So I will contact the dentist's office again to ask if I can be seen without a test, and cancel if necessary. I would be back to square one looking for a new dentist.

What do you think I should do?

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I started taking 300 mg of coenzyme Q-10 from CVS because I received some bottles for free. My concern is about the ingredients Soy Lecithin that is almost certainly GMO and Titanium Dioxide Color. Should I continue taking these, or throw them away?
 
I made an appointment with a new dentist, who does not require stupid COVID-1984 tests.

I also stopped with Lugol's for now and switched to Iodoral. I also started flossing.

A couple days ago, I noticed in the upper right a similar pain as the upper left, and it only happened a few times and also happened with less pain. So I'm thinking the problem is not a single tooth issue, but some kind of systemic problem. In the morning recently, I've been having a running nose and squeezing.

I'm still taking the CoQ-10 containing titanium dioxide and soy lecithin for now.
 
hlat said:
I made an appointment with a new dentist, who does not require stupid COVID-1984 tests.

I also stopped with Lugol's for now and switched to Iodoral. I also started flossing.

A couple days ago, I noticed in the upper right a similar pain as the upper left, and it only happened a few times and also happened with less pain. So I'm thinking the problem is not a single tooth issue, but some kind of systemic problem. In the morning recently, I've been having a running nose and squeezing.

I'm still taking the CoQ-10 containing titanium dioxide and soy lecithin for now.
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Not necessarily, because nerves are connected, so it may be just a "diffusion", I hope I'm clear enough !

It happened to my husband too, an inflamed tooth and he felt dolor parallel like you, but in fact, it was just this tooth and nothing on the other side, it was just the pain that diffused.
 
Maat said:
Not necessarily, because nerves are connected, so it may be just a "diffusion", I hope I'm clear enough !

It happened to my husband too, an inflamed tooth and he felt dolor parallel like you, but in fact, it was just this tooth and nothing on the other side, it was just the pain that diffused.
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Thank you. I will keep an open mind about this.

What did your husband do to resolve the inflamed tooth? Clove oil?
 
I saw the general practitioner dentist yesterday. She found on the lower left side a molar with an old filling that fractured and a cavity underneath. So I will be back in 2 weeks to get that fixed. Aside from that, examination (including biting on wooden sticks) and xrays on upper left and lower left showed no problems. She told me to chew on both sides again. There's still some intermittent sensitivity on my upper left when I chew food that is not soft. It's time to wait and see, if the problem goes away after the cavity and filling are fixed.
 
Do others who have sliver fillings ever experience a burning and/or stinging sensation of the eyes? Or is this something that others are experiencing more of lately, in general?

Another symptom I experience along with the stinging, is a metallic taste in the mouth. The most uncomfortable symptom is the stinging sensation which is not just of the eyes but around the eyes and it seems to affect my energy and concentration..It’s also worse during the day and alleviates for the most part, at night. It’s been going on too for a few years now..I don’t experience other accompanying symptoms like sinus pressure, itching, congestion or redness of the eyes that are associated with seasonal allergies.

I was told I have an abscess under an old root canal which doesn’t hurt. Getting this taken care of has been on my mind for a long while now as it could also be causing the inflammatory response.

The internet keeps cutting out as I write this..I’ve resorted to now writing this on my phone. Which reminds me..the symptoms seem worse after using the IPad or my phone. At my place we have Ethernet but since it’s not working right now I’m using our cellular data to connect to the internet.
 
I learned a lot through this thread those last days!

I've been in excruciating pain since Thursday as one of my wisdom teethes is on her way out. I've seen a dentist Friday after a sleepless (long) night, and the doctor diagnosed a pericoronitis. She gave me antibiotics (Flagyl 500mg + Clindamycine 300mg) and anti-inflammatory (Spifen 200mg) medications, and reassured me as she told me I apparently have the place in the jaw to keep them all.

Nevertheless, the pain is still very sharp and difficult to bear when it radiates fully. I take paracetamol in alternation with anti-inflammatory drugs. I take advantage of this to sleep at these times because I haven't been able to sleep more than 3 hours in a row since my first sleepless night.
I'm starting to wonder because the symptoms were supposed to persist for 24 hours at most.
The wisdom tooth is partially visible, but seeing the tissues on top of it, I doubt that it can totally go out.

Just wrote her an email update and hope to have her perspective tomorrow as we can't phone ANY dental cabinet because COVID, the struggle to actually find a dentist in urgency Friday morning was really a concern. They don't take new clients and all.

In addition to the treatment, I have been trying :
  • Clove essential oil on the tooth. Effective to partially numb it down.
  • Lugol on the tooth. No feelings but it has to help.
  • The protocol advised by Laura:
    • Hydrogen peroxide mouth wash.
    • DMSO + physiological serum/Isotonic Quinton + Lugol as a mouth wash. Several time already, but the last one made me nauseous.
    • Some DMSO on the jaw (mixed with coconuit oil + lavender essential oil / aloe vera)
  • Painkillers:
    • Paracetamol. Calms it down.
    • Paracetamol + codeine : once, did not feel extra relief so I stopped.
    • Tramadol: Makes you feel heavy and fuzzy but the pain is still there.
I'll continue next post with the symbolism behind. Suffering really makes you try to make sense of it all!

Edit : Posted without wanting too. I wanted to add my search for symbolism in this experience, but I'll do in another post then.
 
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The doctor advised stopping taking the anti-inflammatory (Spifen 200mg) and instead did a prescription for some corticoids (Solupred 5mg - orodispersible - 3 in a row) with aspartam in it. It mentions it should not be taken if one has an infection, which makes me wonder again.
What a fantastic cocktail! I read all the instructions, if I don't end up blue, or with bubbles all over my body, or psychotic, or breaking some bones or tendons I'll be lucky I guess :lol:
Lys had wonders about anti-inflammatory meds, her nurse friend too. I didn't even think about it, since the doctor considered it necessary as the inflammation was important. Well, after a sleepless night and with all this pain, I just accepted what was given without afterthought.
But I decided to stop based on those doubts and the ongoing pain last night anyway.
But corticoids also are anti-inflammatory meds... Anyway, it's a real workload for the body to process all those drugs...
This morning was intense, damn, I cried like a newborn. I am exhausted from poor sleep and my pupils must have reached a new state of being by now.
 
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