Do some French people see what's going on? Yellow Vest Protests
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Gwelan (too)
Jedi
It is still the holiday season when traditionally, families gather quietly around the fireplace... It is obvious that the French do not only have a revolution to do. The mainstream media minimized participation from the beginning, and now claim that the movement is over, whereas it is of an obvious dishonesty when watching videos of demonstrations all over France. In any case, it would be prudent to let the holidays pass, and then observe what happens in January. It would be very surprising that a movement which is so determined and designed to last, stops on such a good path. These are not strikes, people are working, and so they can hold out as long as they want. The mobilization in Paris is the least significant sensor because, for many people, going to Paris has a significant cost that can't be commited every week. We have seen, as time went on, the mobilization in Paris weaken while the mobilization in the provinces was growing, which the Parisian media do not report because they are only looking through their windows, when it is not their own navel.
Yes, and they don't count the few people that you can encounter at this or this roundabout in the armpits of France. Also, in january, we will have the traditional rise of costs of all sorts, plus the new tax deducted at source that will reduce a lot of people already small budget. An explosive blending in an already hot situation !
isparnid
Jedi Council Member
This morning, I came across this information:
My very first thought was: "wow, they made it strong!" because in the collective unconscious, this Hitler poster is a very strong image of power and submission.
Then immediately, my second thought was: "Still! Macron can't be as ignoble as this "Le Monde" coverage wants to make it look like!"
Then my suspicious brain immediately said "WTF, where's the scam?" and a scenario came up in my mind:
1 - "Le Monde" is a left-wing newspaper, one of the most widely read in France
Le Monde
And look out of curiosity at the pedigree of the owners of this newspaper: Xavier Niel (father-in-law Bernard Arnault) and Matthieu Pigasse (Sciences Po, ENA). Isn't it strange? These people really don't want to hurt Monarc !
2 - Richard Ferrand (Président de l’Assemblée nationale) was extremely fast (too fast) to reply. And I found him alone on the Internet to be offended by this article.
3 - Finally, I know that I have a spirit of contradiction. I don't know if it's typically French, but here's what Jean DUTOURD from the Académie Française wrote:
L’esprit de contradiction, fondement de la vertu. Séance publique annuelle | Académie française
So, I suppose that on the eve of Macron's presentation of the vows, this article in "Le Monde" is only intended to condition the most refractory of the French to be more tolerant towards their "King".
Hmm? Maybe I'm just paranoid and see evil everywhere?
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My very first thought was: "wow, they made it strong!" because in the collective unconscious, this Hitler poster is a very strong image of power and submission.
Then immediately, my second thought was: "Still! Macron can't be as ignoble as this "Le Monde" coverage wants to make it look like!"
Then my suspicious brain immediately said "WTF, where's the scam?" and a scenario came up in my mind:
1 - "Le Monde" is a left-wing newspaper, one of the most widely read in France
Le Monde
And look out of curiosity at the pedigree of the owners of this newspaper: Xavier Niel (father-in-law Bernard Arnault) and Matthieu Pigasse (Sciences Po, ENA). Isn't it strange? These people really don't want to hurt Monarc !
2 - Richard Ferrand (Président de l’Assemblée nationale) was extremely fast (too fast) to reply. And I found him alone on the Internet to be offended by this article.
3 - Finally, I know that I have a spirit of contradiction. I don't know if it's typically French, but here's what Jean DUTOURD from the Académie Française wrote:
L’esprit de contradiction, fondement de la vertu. Séance publique annuelle | Académie française
. The whole session is interesting but too long to translate here.
So, I suppose that on the eve of Macron's presentation of the vows, this article in "Le Monde" is only intended to condition the most refractory of the French to be more tolerant towards their "King".
Hmm? Maybe I'm just paranoid and see evil everywhere?
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Hi_Henry
The Living Force
Fake news, fake scientific research papers etc. It is all around us in various forms but has one objective ,to lie to the People anyway possible.
Who else is lying ?
Who are the "breakers"?
Every time the rich break social security, it is the poor who must bear the brunt.
There are those who have nothing, or almost nothing - those whom the edictocracy overwhelms with its contempt when they express their frustration, and whose anger sometimes overflows when they take to the streets, with or without a yellow vest. Those whom the dominant press then calls "breakers" and whom the police are repressing these days with unprecedented brutality.
And then there are the others. Those who, even before the abolition of the ISF, never had any problems at the end of the month. Those who have never needed to return half of Paris several Saturdays in a row to get what they want (or demand) - and who can perpetrate the worst social violence without ever being worried.
These are, in truth, the real "breakers". For forty years, they have systematically - and systematically - destroyed all public services. And almost every time, their "reforms", also carried out in the name of the need to improve managerial efficiency, cause deaths - as has been seen, in particular, at France Télécom or La Poste. Are these acts, which are infinitely more serious than the erection of a barricade on a Parisian avenue, worth tense police fire, like those that have been targeting yellow vests for the past two weeks? Never (Quite the contrary: they are applauded by the same editors who are also so quick to reprimand the demonstrators that this ransacking of social security enrages them.)
It is the same people who pollute - much more than the modest employees who protest against the rise in the price of diesel fuel will ever do. "The rich pollute" up to "2,000 times more than the poor": even Paris Match, which is not exactly an anarchist burner, has noted this (1). But does this mean, for example, that they will have to pay targeted taxes in proportion to their CO2 emissions? Not at all: as a reprimand, they are subject, like everyone else, to the carbon tax - and the important words here are "like everyone else. "Because, of course, this taxation, which thus mutualizes the inconsistency of the biggest polluters, is extraordinarily unequal: it is on the poor, and on them alone, that it really weighs. (Because the same increases in fuel prices that so significantly burden small budgets leave the owners impoverished: they have enough to cope with these random menus.)
In short, every time the rich break social security, or continue to aggravate global warming, it is the poor who must somehow bear the cost of these misdeeds. And Mr Macron, who has just granted the employers - and under the guise of the "transformation of the CICE into a reduction in social security contributions (2)" - a new tax gift of 20 billion euros, knows this perfectly well: that is why, at the same time as he pledged the bosses of this magnificent event, he gave another major blow with an axe to hospital budgets.
(1) Paris Match, 5 November 2015.
(2) L'Humanité, 4 December 2018.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (source : Politis)
Every time the rich break social security, it is the poor who must bear the brunt.
There are those who have nothing, or almost nothing - those whom the edictocracy overwhelms with its contempt when they express their frustration, and whose anger sometimes overflows when they take to the streets, with or without a yellow vest. Those whom the dominant press then calls "breakers" and whom the police are repressing these days with unprecedented brutality.
And then there are the others. Those who, even before the abolition of the ISF, never had any problems at the end of the month. Those who have never needed to return half of Paris several Saturdays in a row to get what they want (or demand) - and who can perpetrate the worst social violence without ever being worried.
These are, in truth, the real "breakers". For forty years, they have systematically - and systematically - destroyed all public services. And almost every time, their "reforms", also carried out in the name of the need to improve managerial efficiency, cause deaths - as has been seen, in particular, at France Télécom or La Poste. Are these acts, which are infinitely more serious than the erection of a barricade on a Parisian avenue, worth tense police fire, like those that have been targeting yellow vests for the past two weeks? Never (Quite the contrary: they are applauded by the same editors who are also so quick to reprimand the demonstrators that this ransacking of social security enrages them.)
It is the same people who pollute - much more than the modest employees who protest against the rise in the price of diesel fuel will ever do. "The rich pollute" up to "2,000 times more than the poor": even Paris Match, which is not exactly an anarchist burner, has noted this (1). But does this mean, for example, that they will have to pay targeted taxes in proportion to their CO2 emissions? Not at all: as a reprimand, they are subject, like everyone else, to the carbon tax - and the important words here are "like everyone else. "Because, of course, this taxation, which thus mutualizes the inconsistency of the biggest polluters, is extraordinarily unequal: it is on the poor, and on them alone, that it really weighs. (Because the same increases in fuel prices that so significantly burden small budgets leave the owners impoverished: they have enough to cope with these random menus.)
In short, every time the rich break social security, or continue to aggravate global warming, it is the poor who must somehow bear the cost of these misdeeds. And Mr Macron, who has just granted the employers - and under the guise of the "transformation of the CICE into a reduction in social security contributions (2)" - a new tax gift of 20 billion euros, knows this perfectly well: that is why, at the same time as he pledged the bosses of this magnificent event, he gave another major blow with an axe to hospital budgets.
(1) Paris Match, 5 November 2015.
(2) L'Humanité, 4 December 2018.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (source : Politis)
Yellow vests: the roundabout, symbol of the debacle of French society
Did you know that there are more roundabouts than municipalities in France? 40,000 more precisely, a world record. Each of these works will have cost between 200,000 and 1 million euros for a total spent of more than 20 billion ! Ironically, this roundabout, which has become a symbol of the waste of public money, has become the main focus of the Yellow Vests movement's demands.
This picture has more symbols than can first meet the eye : even the dog, even orange, even no YV, and with "Carrefour" supermarket which means "crossroad".
Did you know that there are more roundabouts than municipalities in France? 40,000 more precisely, a world record. Each of these works will have cost between 200,000 and 1 million euros for a total spent of more than 20 billion ! Ironically, this roundabout, which has become a symbol of the waste of public money, has become the main focus of the Yellow Vests movement's demands.
This picture has more symbols than can first meet the eye : even the dog, even orange, even no YV, and with "Carrefour" supermarket which means "crossroad".
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Breitbart News
29 Dec 2018 Oliver JJ Lane Tweets / Video / Pic's
Pictures: France Yellow Vests March on 'Collaborator' MSM Headquarters
Anti-government protesters turned out in Paris and other French cities for the seventh Saturday running, as activists called for direct democracy — to take power out of the hands of political elite — and protested against the mainstream media.
As in previous weeks, many protestors carried placards with the abbreviation ‘R.I.C.’ — “Citizens’ Initiative Referendum”, a demand for popular referendums that would be automatically triggered by any referendum calling for a change in government policy getting 700,000 signatures.
If enacted, the introduction of referendums triggered by the public rather than given as a gift by politicians would likely see a massive reorientation of political power in France away from the political elite and even traditional political parties, a clear desire of the Yellow Vest movement which has reacted strongly against Emmanuel Macron’s globalist government.
Published on Dec 30, 2018
Switzerland already has a system of citizen’s initiative referendum, and Italy has a similar system. French Prime Minister Édouard Philippe said last weekend the government was considering debating such referendums in the future.
The number of demonstrators out was fewer than in recent weeks, but more protests are expected in Paris on New Year’s Eve.
The route of Saturday’s march took hundreds of protestors to the doors of mainstream French television stations, which the Yellow Vests accuse of having aligned themselves with President Macron against the French people.
Demonstrators shouted “Journalists — collaborationists!” and threw stones reports the Associated Press. Police pushed back protestors from the tourist favourite Champs Elysee, where clashes have taken place on recent weekends.
The protests originally began in November over green policies of President Emmanual Macron, who was moving to wean France off automobiles by making buying fuel unaffordable.
After weeks of intense and at times violent protests through which Macron insisted there could be no deviation from his course, the President eventually relented and cancelled the tax hikes, also introducing a rise in minimum wage and a tax cut days later.
Translated from French by Microsoft
She's a funny coincidence. March for#Climat: 27 January at 2 pm place of the Republic walking support to #Macron: 27 January at 2 pm place of the Republic they think we're idiots #MarchePourLeClimat #LaffaireDuSiecle #affairedusiecle #ecologie.
There is a simple way to oppose those#médias who dislike: we do not read them, do not listen to them, do not look at them. But we don't pretend to dictate to the reporter what he has to write or say. Except to be tempted by the dictatorship, so desired by those who advance hidden.
Translated from French by Microsoft
We know who the donors are!
29 Dec 2018 Oliver JJ Lane Tweets / Video / Pic's
Pictures: France Yellow Vests March on 'Collaborator' MSM Headquarters
Anti-government protesters turned out in Paris and other French cities for the seventh Saturday running, as activists called for direct democracy — to take power out of the hands of political elite — and protested against the mainstream media.
As in previous weeks, many protestors carried placards with the abbreviation ‘R.I.C.’ — “Citizens’ Initiative Referendum”, a demand for popular referendums that would be automatically triggered by any referendum calling for a change in government policy getting 700,000 signatures.
If enacted, the introduction of referendums triggered by the public rather than given as a gift by politicians would likely see a massive reorientation of political power in France away from the political elite and even traditional political parties, a clear desire of the Yellow Vest movement which has reacted strongly against Emmanuel Macron’s globalist government.
Switzerland already has a system of citizen’s initiative referendum, and Italy has a similar system. French Prime Minister Édouard Philippe said last weekend the government was considering debating such referendums in the future.
The number of demonstrators out was fewer than in recent weeks, but more protests are expected in Paris on New Year’s Eve.
The route of Saturday’s march took hundreds of protestors to the doors of mainstream French television stations, which the Yellow Vests accuse of having aligned themselves with President Macron against the French people.
Demonstrators shouted “Journalists — collaborationists!” and threw stones reports the Associated Press. Police pushed back protestors from the tourist favourite Champs Elysee, where clashes have taken place on recent weekends.
The protests originally began in November over green policies of President Emmanual Macron, who was moving to wean France off automobiles by making buying fuel unaffordable.
After weeks of intense and at times violent protests through which Macron insisted there could be no deviation from his course, the President eventually relented and cancelled the tax hikes, also introducing a rise in minimum wage and a tax cut days later.
Translated from French by Microsoft
She's a funny coincidence. March for
There is a simple way to oppose those
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We know who the donors are!
Gwelan (too)
Jedi
Concerning the cars set on fire in front of the premises of the Parisien libéré, it now seems clear that there is no involvement of the yellow vests. It's a common mechanical incident and the fire has spread to adjacent vehicles.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
If Macron and his "friends" win, the French people will not be allowed to walk on beaches or anywhere where they are deemed potential "terrorists".
Peasants not wanted
zak
The Living Force
Emmanuel Macron talking about spirituality...
Kassovitz to the Yellow Vests:
"You guys travel and you'll see that we're in one of the best democracies in the world"
Mathieu Kassovitz, you need to make more effort? ( to the Yellow Vests)
The author of the video, claiming to be part of the yellow vest movement, reacts to the video of Kassovitz "who managed to convince a whole television set of the need for us all to make an effort and help Macron in his program (reforms), he was applauded..."
He says that celebrities like Kassovitz have a certain responsibility for what they say in front of an audience or speakers who do not have certain information to reason with. Which may ultimately give reason to biased arguments.
And from his position Kassovitz does not have the same problems as a yellow vest and that he lives in another reality and again and again asked the poorest to make an effort makes no sense, and takes advantage of his status to defend his high standard of living under good and noble words.
That is why, to clarify things, the author of the video asks for a confrontation with Kassovitz.
For him Macron is "a narcissistic pervert, delusional about his mission.
That he is contemptuous of the people, which leads to violence on the streets, the narcissistic pervert instrumentalizes the ignorance of others, he divides others, he uses these divisions."
Like the Minister of the Interior Castaner who sets himself up on stage. " it's no longer politics, it's businessmen, they are manipulators who use the same method as you (addressing Kassovitz), you are specialist in images and communication, you know how to put people on stage to let us think one thing or another, and they do exactly the same thing.
In the end, we are victims of manipulation, of propaganda.
We can now have no charismatic leader and express ourselves for ourselves.
We don't care about our religion, our origins, our age, our sex, our political parties, everyone comes together, unification.
Faced with a narcissistic pervert, people end up uniting against the pervert because he instrumentalizes division and you (to Kassovitz) participate in this division between immensely rich people and immensely poor people and who are still being asked to make an effort."
(...)
Kassovitz to the Yellow Vests:
"You guys travel and you'll see that we're in one of the best democracies in the world"
Mathieu Kassovitz, you need to make more effort? ( to the Yellow Vests)
The author of the video, claiming to be part of the yellow vest movement, reacts to the video of Kassovitz "who managed to convince a whole television set of the need for us all to make an effort and help Macron in his program (reforms), he was applauded..."
He says that celebrities like Kassovitz have a certain responsibility for what they say in front of an audience or speakers who do not have certain information to reason with. Which may ultimately give reason to biased arguments.
And from his position Kassovitz does not have the same problems as a yellow vest and that he lives in another reality and again and again asked the poorest to make an effort makes no sense, and takes advantage of his status to defend his high standard of living under good and noble words.
That is why, to clarify things, the author of the video asks for a confrontation with Kassovitz.
For him Macron is "a narcissistic pervert, delusional about his mission.
That he is contemptuous of the people, which leads to violence on the streets, the narcissistic pervert instrumentalizes the ignorance of others, he divides others, he uses these divisions."
Like the Minister of the Interior Castaner who sets himself up on stage. " it's no longer politics, it's businessmen, they are manipulators who use the same method as you (addressing Kassovitz), you are specialist in images and communication, you know how to put people on stage to let us think one thing or another, and they do exactly the same thing.
In the end, we are victims of manipulation, of propaganda.
We can now have no charismatic leader and express ourselves for ourselves.
We don't care about our religion, our origins, our age, our sex, our political parties, everyone comes together, unification.
Faced with a narcissistic pervert, people end up uniting against the pervert because he instrumentalizes division and you (to Kassovitz) participate in this division between immensely rich people and immensely poor people and who are still being asked to make an effort."
(...)
Gwelan (too)
Jedi
zak
The Living Force
There is a similarity between the "can do better" of Macron, and the Kassovitz "you need to make more efforts".
In these times of festivities, by dint of coughing to vomit, I came across this video that made me come out of big mucus:
Le Temps des bouffons
"Let's give it up for each other! »
The Time of the Jesters
A characteristic feature of the ruling classes, the certainty that one's position is based solely on one's own merits is accompanied by intense self-satisfaction: out of the ordinary, one fry fly over the small fry. But, knowing from experience the irritability of the working classes, bosses, senior officials and intellectuals try, to the best of their ability, to limit public manifestations of condescension. This satisfied arrogance displayed by the young French president Emmanuel Macron, the more sophisticated notables know how to reserve the expression for closed circles: clubs, committees and councils where no parade of "yellow vests" will pollute the atmosphere with vulgar considerations on diesel and the end of the month (see the dossier "Le soulèvement français" in the January issue, on newsstands).
Quebec filmmaker and pro-independence activist Pierre Falardeau (1) (1946-2009) seized one of those moments of happiness in Montreal in 1985 when the elite unbuttoned. Gathered at the Queen Elisabeth Hotel, members of the Beaver Club are celebrating the two-hundredth anniversary of this cenacle founded in 1785 by the masters of the fur trade. The first half of this short documentary (15 minutes) borrows from the register of ethnography: Falardeau observes the Canadian colonial bourgeoisie as anthropologist Jean Rouch (2) studied the tribes, with their rites, hierarchies and costumes. He is doing what so many journalists have stopped doing as they set up their cots in the vestibules of power: making public this inner self designed precisely to escape the outside world. The vision of these images arouses in the viewer a kind of incredulous anger which, as if out of sympathy, gradually gains the voice of the commentator himself. "The whole raptor is there: bosses and boss's wives, finance barons, frozen pizza kings, real estate mafiososos, (...) creeping journalists dressed as servile editorialists, crooked lawyers, dressed as judges at $100,000 a year, ass-kissers who think they are artists," fulmine Falardeau in popular Quebec language. "They shout out loud and clear, without embarrassment, their right to profit, their right to exploitation, their right to the sweat of others. They drink to their successes. They sing that everything is fine, that nothing must change, that it is forever... always the same, always the same. »
The Time of the Buffoons was not finalized until 1993, but its distribution was initially clandestine: VHS tapes were exchanged under the cloak. "Falardeau himself duplicated them one by one, specifying on the jacket that everyone was free to copy them as they pleased," recalls Quebec journalist Jean-François Nadeau, the director's friend. "The demand became so strong that several bookstores and specialized sales outlets decided to market the film. It eventually attracted the attention of the press and programmers of art and essay festivals. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. Yet when the president of the Beaver Club concludes the ceremony with a shout: "To all of you, our members, to all of us, let's applaud each other! ", how can we fail to perceive the echo of another presidential voice that has long been infatuated but suddenly worried about the idea that crowds are forcing the doors of the banquet?
DeepL.
In these times of festivities, by dint of coughing to vomit, I came across this video that made me come out of big mucus:
Le Temps des bouffons
"Let's give it up for each other! »
The Time of the Jesters
A characteristic feature of the ruling classes, the certainty that one's position is based solely on one's own merits is accompanied by intense self-satisfaction: out of the ordinary, one fry fly over the small fry. But, knowing from experience the irritability of the working classes, bosses, senior officials and intellectuals try, to the best of their ability, to limit public manifestations of condescension. This satisfied arrogance displayed by the young French president Emmanuel Macron, the more sophisticated notables know how to reserve the expression for closed circles: clubs, committees and councils where no parade of "yellow vests" will pollute the atmosphere with vulgar considerations on diesel and the end of the month (see the dossier "Le soulèvement français" in the January issue, on newsstands).
Quebec filmmaker and pro-independence activist Pierre Falardeau (1) (1946-2009) seized one of those moments of happiness in Montreal in 1985 when the elite unbuttoned. Gathered at the Queen Elisabeth Hotel, members of the Beaver Club are celebrating the two-hundredth anniversary of this cenacle founded in 1785 by the masters of the fur trade. The first half of this short documentary (15 minutes) borrows from the register of ethnography: Falardeau observes the Canadian colonial bourgeoisie as anthropologist Jean Rouch (2) studied the tribes, with their rites, hierarchies and costumes. He is doing what so many journalists have stopped doing as they set up their cots in the vestibules of power: making public this inner self designed precisely to escape the outside world. The vision of these images arouses in the viewer a kind of incredulous anger which, as if out of sympathy, gradually gains the voice of the commentator himself. "The whole raptor is there: bosses and boss's wives, finance barons, frozen pizza kings, real estate mafiososos, (...) creeping journalists dressed as servile editorialists, crooked lawyers, dressed as judges at $100,000 a year, ass-kissers who think they are artists," fulmine Falardeau in popular Quebec language. "They shout out loud and clear, without embarrassment, their right to profit, their right to exploitation, their right to the sweat of others. They drink to their successes. They sing that everything is fine, that nothing must change, that it is forever... always the same, always the same. »
The Time of the Buffoons was not finalized until 1993, but its distribution was initially clandestine: VHS tapes were exchanged under the cloak. "Falardeau himself duplicated them one by one, specifying on the jacket that everyone was free to copy them as they pleased," recalls Quebec journalist Jean-François Nadeau, the director's friend. "The demand became so strong that several bookstores and specialized sales outlets decided to market the film. It eventually attracted the attention of the press and programmers of art and essay festivals. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. Yet when the president of the Beaver Club concludes the ceremony with a shout: "To all of you, our members, to all of us, let's applaud each other! ", how can we fail to perceive the echo of another presidential voice that has long been infatuated but suddenly worried about the idea that crowds are forcing the doors of the banquet?
DeepL.
