Here is an interesting interview of Juan Branco, which gives a very good understanding of the current situation
Fly rider/Maxime Nicolle (a well-known yellow jacket) also talked about him recently :
The interview in french: -https://
www.facebook.com/areski.atsada/videos/967003300176739/
Here is my google translate transcript of the video (40 minutes) if you don't understand french:
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- Ruan Branco, there are 23 million French people who watched President Macron on TV, 23 million ... and 23 million who think that this guy has all the powers, he alone
that everything rests on him, that everything comes from him, and you did a little book to say no, he is not alone
[R.B.] - What's interesting in this intervention is what happened after,
that is to say, there is a moment in the intervention where he announces that he will ask the bosses to pay a premium to their employees
Except that in fact there is something very interesting that happens after that is that in the hours that followed,
there are 4 bosses who announced that they would pay a premium because it was very important,
it's
Xavier Niel, Patrick Drahi, Stéphane Richard, and I forgot the last [
Bernard Arnault],
and in any case someone who is also very close to Macron,
and there we realize
that there is an operation that was mounted at the Elysee, where the Elysee asked those who allowed the election of Emmanuel Macron,
those who supported him very early, very early on, to allow him to come to power, and allow this person who was unknown a few months before the election, to be humbled by the French, to take the Elysee,
that these people there today remain linked with Emmanuel Macron to the point of co-constructing his speech
and to create links that make it possible that they will give ... organize together a communication operation
that will give the impression to the media, so to the French, that indeed the word of Emmanuel Macron produces magical effects
and that by his simple grace that he asks the bosses, all bosses of France, to distribute an exceptional bonus to employees,
well, it gives the impression that indeed Mr. Macron has this power, when in fact, obviously, all that is organized upstream,
that he asked for this service from his bosses, and that these bosses gave him by distributing some ... actually in short a few hundred thousand of euros each is nothing,
a few million euros possibly, which is nothing compared to their turnover
to do what ? to try to save the macron soldier
to try to save the one who allowed them to ... to preserve their interests within the state
- who is their "proxyholder" ...
[R.B.] - we could say that, in any case that's the expression used ...
- then there in 80 pages [
Crépuscule, by Juan Branco], you publish an unpublishable text, I do not know if you found a publisher ...
[R.B.] - not yet
- you have publishers who call you to tell you we publish?
[R.B.] - not yet
- not yet ... you think that's going to be done?
[R.B.] - I would be surprised
- it would surprise you ... and ... you do not beat around the bush. If it's the art of making friends .. you bump in all directions and you reveal things finally without particular genius [laughs] just you investigate, you read the books, you cut information, and one wonders what do the journalists do when it should be their job,
you explain why they do not, you recall something that is repeated over, that 90% of the media are in the hands of 10 billionaires ...
we repeat it all the time, but here we see how true it is
[R.B.] - I'm trying to motivate especially the effect it has
there is still a whole discourse from journalists in France that aims to pretend that despite this fact, there is no effect on their papers, on their work forgiveness, because they would not be censored, because there would be no direct intervention of these individuals
Well, it is true that there is no direct intervention
there are some in Le Figaro, there are some in Bernard Arnault's journals, there are none in Xavier Niel's
except that I'm trying to show that in fact
the operation is much thinner and insidious
in other words, there is a whole series of measures designed to create a very strong indirect censorship effect, notably through the control of recruitments, promotions, dismissals, all that ...
- social precarity too ..
[R.B.] - what will do ...
I show that in fact, how does it produce major political effects, how in fact these systems have caused the election of an individual within the presidency of the republic?
if we are in a "democratic space", in quotation marks
, which allows people from nowhere to emerge in the public space in a few months, because they are at the service of the interests of this or that billionaire, we enters a so-called oligarchic system
an oligarchy is when there are people whose fortune depends partly or totally on the state's command, or in any case on links with the state,
who decide to invest in the media to influence the state, to constitute or maintain, or increase their fortune by this means
this is exactly what became in France our political regime
that's why today Xavier Niel, Bernard Arnault, Pinault, Lagardère, etc., invest the media
Because they need these relays to influence the policy, so that this policy makes them the service in return
and that's put in place very specifically because so far right left cleavage was doing that there was a form of democratic breathing,
because we were certainly in an oligarchic system, but in which there were clans
and these clans had every interest, fighting each other, had every interest in getting information out of each other,
which allowed me to say a kind of breathing, in the sense that sometimes we could see things appear in the public space
and this is the source of what I explained in the text -
the source of the "at the same time" of Macron
It's not a political innovation in which we would leave partisan politics, with all that it can have negative, etc.,
on the contrary, it is the condensation of the various elites, the different networks of Parisian elites, which will in fact be unified,
and who are going to do that we will completely stifle the democratic space, because no one will have any interest in pulling in the paws of the other
because everyone will be served
and in fact the success of Macron is that
of successfully interconnecting networks that were previously opposed
and
in this coagulation of the French elite, he gets a kind of media glamor, which explains in particular the 29 newspaper frontpages he got
Paris Match and others in less than a year ...
all that sounds conspiracy when I tell it like that, but if you read me you'll see in detail in fact, that it happened like that
and sometimes even unconsciously for some of the actors who did not even realize they were participating in this game
between 2016 and 2017 there will be a famous celebrity factory, which will be set up through Mimi Marchand,
- so here it is Mimi Marchand's book called
Mimi, who is on this woman, Mimi Marchand, written by three journalists,
and we discover this character ....
=========== [video excerpt about Mimi Marchand] ===========
Who is Mimi Marchand, guru of the press people and close to Macron?
[Jean-Michel Décugis:] Mimi Marchaud is a true novelist. A Balzac character, who had several lives, she was ... she first had a typical normal life, before falling into delinquency, to be married to a thug, and then she was a mechanic, she held nightclubs, girls' clubs,
and then she landed, she tumbled into the press people when it was the big boom,
and she became the high priestess of the popular press, before being in the middle of power, as guardian, in a way, of the private image of the couple Macron
How did Mimi Marchand become indispensable to the Macron couple?
[Jean-Michel Décugis:] in the spring of 2016, the Macron couple is not known to the general public, it suffers from a lack of notoriety
there are rumors about Emmanuel Macron's homosexuality,
and there Brigitte Macron saw it very badly and appealed to his friend Xavier Niel
so he organizes a kind of ...
what he calls a little snack in his mansion, and Michelle Marchand will explain to Brigitte Macron how the media work,
and above all, will tell her, although her pictures that everyone is talking about, do not exist, there are no pictures of her husband with a man
and that, if they existed, she would have them
so he's going to have this an explosive news where there's going to be the macron couple in swimwear on this beach in Biarritz
I
t is May 2016, and will follow, during the whole campaign, about thirty newspaper frontpages almost
and each time it's the couple in love, in the mountains ... at the sea ... in the city ...
today her power is to put, as she says, the dust under the carpet
that is to say, in fact, today, her real power is to retain information
that is to say, she is aware 15 days before the others, of information, and this information can leak
so she will warn the interested parties, and she will offer her services
what is his service? it is neither stolen nor posed pictures, which look taken by paparazzi but which are not
today she has the power to retain information, to prevent the spread of a photo too wide, and even sometimes to stop investigations
=========== [end of the video] ===========
[RB] - In fact, Mimi Marchand is the intermediary, it's not the source of course, it's not this person who was convicted of drug trafficking, that was chopped with a 500 kg van of hashish, and that we find doing V victory at the office of the Elysee, following the election of Emmanuel Macron ...
- Niel had stories about pornography ...
[R.B.] -
that's him, in fact, who introduces Mimi Marchand to Emmanuel Macron, it's Xavier Niel ...
in fact
Xavier Niel will fund Mimi Marchand, who serves as an intermediary to the powerful, to get up or down this or that enemy
or this or that person to support
so Mimi Marchand is going to be financed by Xavier Niel, it is told indirectly in the book, because obviously one should not attract the anger ...
she will actually find an agreement with someone who is very close to the Macron clan, it's Ramzi Khiroun
Ramzi Khiroun, another shadowy man, who is
the henchman of Arnaud Lagardère in the press
=========== [Video: Game of Influences, Strategies of Communication - France 5] ===========
- some agents of influence systematically refuse to appear in the media, to better pull the strings behind the scenes
one of the most influential is Ramzi Khiroun
a long meeting without a camera was not enough to convince him to be filmed
he grew up in Sarcelles, the city of Dominique Strauss-Kahn, he did everything to work with him via the Havas agency
he has long fashioned and protected the image of DSK until the case of the Sofitel of New York
now he works for one of the most powerful French bosses, Arnaud Lagardère
Ramzi Khiroun takes care of the whole communication strategy
=========== [end of the video] ===========
[R.B.] - this is the second step. The first is cooptation, which is difficult to implement
the second step is now you have to sell the product
once you've got it, you have to sell it
So we do this very quickly, we impose with the means of the state too, we see that he puts the media ... we will use ...
this is where the scandal of Las Vegas is, so people do not really understand what it is, the more than 300,000 euros we say that it is not much thing finally,
this contract that is awarded outside the rules ...
actually it's
part of a whole series of events organized by the Macron cabinet,
which counts at the time 6 advisors in communication
and we now understand why macron wanted to reduce ministerial cabinets
it is because
he is afraid that he will be made the same blow he did to Holland
in short, with these 6 communications advisers he is organizing a whole series of events at the Ministry of Economy to try to get himself up
So
by using the means of the state, to try to be raised also by doing fundraising, so he invites all the entrepreneurs of France and everywhere,
he invites for official events, that he invites in the wake of fundraising, to recover in a few months, with 950 donors, 7 million euros
which allows him to have a sufficient floor
which is important, sorry, but you will see how all this is coherent
it looks like I'm jumping from cock to donkey - why it's important to do it like that and not get paid directly by an oligarch
Niel could directly put the 7 million euros, he has 7 billion of fortune
why complicate things like that?
because these people know that it is essential today to formally respect all the rules
do not get around ...
well, you have to get around it but you must not violate the rules on financing and campaigns
for funding and campaigns, it is said that the maximum donation per individual is 7500 euros to a political figure
so in fact they build this alternative, whereas they could have access to the funds directly, to stay in the nails
but in fact, in fact, it's still a form of corruption
so we first have the cooptation, then the propulsion of notoriety by these two biases, and the constitution of funds
it's what happens when you insert yourself in the public space as a reality TV star would do
because in the end that's it,
when you make yourself known by Gala, VSD, Paris Match, you make yourself known in a very superficial way
that is, what are we staging? it's not a journey as for Chirac - with all its faults and flaws, I do not want to be the one who distorts it - but 40 years to go across the country to present itself to the people and for a moment to be part of history ... in his flesh in fact, in relation to history
obviously, in Macron's case,
it is very superficial, which means what? it means that it's very friable, it can be discarded like a reality show celebrity
you love him the first week and ...
- is it what's going on right now?
[RB] - that's what actually happens, actually, it's very quick, as soon as we realize that
behind the glossy image, we actually have someone who is extremely arrogant, a man filled with a "class disrespect", which has nothing to do with the people contrary to what was claimed ...
someone who did not present a program during the 2/3 of the presidential campaign, and managed to make us believe that it was something innovative
- what's really new about it? I remember an expression, it was "the republic of pals and rascals", it was Poniatowski who had said that of the time of Giscard, Pompidou ... I can not quite grasp in what there is new
[R.B.] - There are three things for me that are new.
The first is that it can be said. it can be said, we can actually break this kind of media uniformity, so far in fact, create effects of censorship ...
there today, I can produce a text like this and it can circulate a lot without going through any of the filters that would have diminished, smothered, etc.
the second thing I've already said is that macronism is the specificity of stifling the democratic space, there is no alternative anymore
that is to say, the idea really is to coagulate all these networks, and it is not the Arnault network against Pinault,
it is not the chiraquie against the balladurien, where there is ... in fact ... or the Mitterandie against the Chiraquie, or the Giscardie ...
that is to say,
there is really, for the first time in France, the will to establish a unique system in fact, which will make nothing leaks, will create a very difficult damper to thwart
the third important point is where I connect it to the yellow vests,
it is that there is a will of predation of the State and the public good
and we see it especially with the Paris airport, but it's not the only one, which is extremely new or even unique, and therefore the only point of comparison, and I think that the origin that exists in relation to that, is
the Balladur regime, between 1993 and 1995, where we go for the first time to set up a system of complete predation in which, where basically, all this network of inspector of finance who after going to be successful like Nicolas Bazire, Jean-Marie Messier etc, not only
privatize mass assets of the state, but behind it will be named, be named at the head of these new instances,
where they will explode wages to create, in fact, a power of its own, outside the state, without any possible return in fact
they go from their position, within the state, to draw wealth for them that they will actually redistribute to shareholders elsewhere, but of which they will keep some,
they will integrate it in the private, to the detriment of the state, without any embarrassment, without any scruple, and without will at any time to return, ;
While so far, even in the corruption of the right, even in the violent corruption of the institutional right, there was a willingness to instrumentalize, to control the private
that is,
the state allowed private spheres to exist but still under control
and in fact it was parastatal, somehow
the big groups that existed at the time, somewhere, were still serving the political project that was inscribed by the state
there is an empowerment of the financial sphere and the private sphere, which will make these large companies that are privatized serve only their interests, shareholder interest, share ownership which is also more and more international and foreign, and there is no sovereignty anymore,
which is something felt by the people, which explains the impotence of political speeches
we can not do anything anymore, not only because there is the European Union, etc.
but simply because we have withdrawn the tools that until then ... because we went too far in the predation
So, in fact, all these networks that so far dominated, circulated in the public space of large state bodies, can't do anything anymore themselves
Macron makes a huge "revolving doors" by going from the general inspection of finances using networks he gets there, to return to Rothschild and earn a few million euros in a few years,
he is the last member of a species in danger of extinction, because the state has less and less power, so ...
in fact there is less and less interest in corrupting the staff of the state, the big bodies,
because these people have less and less to give to the private and to the financial sphere, because the financial sphere is already too powerful, we gave too much without return
and so we come to a point of narrowing the public action, which creates its impotence, which makes that
at a certain moment there is an awareness that there is a looting that is going on
there is excessive looting
=========== [Xavier Niel video] ===========
- I think ... I'm not fashionable, huh, when I say that. I think we have a great president who is able to bring things ... to reform France
he must reform on all sides
that is to say ... we have the feeling that he reformed it or did it to help the rich people.
But he is making fantastic laws. Today in France I won a lot of money, if I want to give this money to foundations, to associations, the day when (..?)
I do not have the possibility. They are working on a law that makes it possible to redistribute, for people like me, - if I wish, it's up to everyone's freedom, it's not an obligation - and so he changes France, he creates things that no president, no previous government wants to do ...
now to say that [laughs] it's a bit like being the only one to say that... but no, I'm not trying to be brave, it's just that we're looking at a whole thing, and as a whole it represents something that may seem negative, a president of the rich,
you have to change this marker, because I met him when he was at Holland, he was different, that's it! and I do not think he has changed, I think we have someone who wants to change, to change the country
we can make gaffes of both form and substance, life is not a long quiet river, but I hope he will continue ....
=========== [end of video] ===========
- How do you know this world from the inside? At one point
you say that in 2014 Xavier Niel announced that Macron will become President of the Republic. You were friends with ...?
[RB] - I was programmed to be part of this world, I was programmed to become one of the dominant, as I call them, that is to say that I did my schooling in this world. one of the most elitist high school in paris, the most positively more than elitist, the Alsatian school, in which there is a concentration of cultural and symbolic capital interesting, economic too,
and then I went through science po, normal sup, that is to say that I went in the schools of the republic that are supposed to bring you to positions of power in France
however access to power today in France is extremely limited
today there are only paths traced very early that allow to enter ...
- you're a traitor!
[RB] - and me, Xavier Niel meets me in 2014 because he meets all the young people from 20 to 25 years old, well, 25 to 30 years old who have these formations-the ones who are about to take positions of responsibility, he knows they will have positions of responsibility for almost 40 years, and he takes them almost to the nursery, that is to say that they are still a little malleable etc, to do them a number ... he goes ... he makes 3 lunches like this a week, to put on a show (...), he says... we could maybe work together one day etc, to make sure that these people - at all hierarchical levels then will be able to act with sympathy towards him
it's a soft corruption, in the sense that in fact ... we give them no money, he invites them like that to a nice restaurant like that to Madeleine [Paris], and he tries ...
then there is a bit of revenge, he tries to impose on them because he himself did not succeed his "grandes écoles", even if he tried ...
and so that's it, so when Xavier Niel meets me in January 2014 and at the end he tells me in the end, I have a text message from Emmanuel Macron,
I know at the time when no one knows him because I'm already in these small networks, so I've heard about him for 2 years, I see him going up, I see very well ...
- did you meet him Macron?
[RB] - I saw him at Science Po once, in 2013 at a conference, he gives a lecture ... which is a complete intellectual mush ... that's where we also see the mediocrity of our elites, they thought that guy was a genius
in addition he only slips intellectual references from the right
- As a student you realized, the students realized that he was not good?
[RB] - no, because in fact in science po the levels are relatively low intellectually speaking, as soon as you quoted 3 authors and a half that we learned from a manual of general culture it's ok, but if you did philosophy like me because it was my specialty, you actually see that 1, he cites them badly, sometimes confusing them, that 2, those he quotes - Aron, Tocqueville, Constant -, right liberal thinkers, while he is supposed to be socialist at the time, he says he was from the left, ...
there you say, the people who made it up .... because you could say, well, in any society it takes a hierarchy, it takes people that we will train, we will prepare, so that they take special responsibilities, but when we get to that level, ...
even if you believe in a system, even if you're not anarchist, there's still a problem
- Sarkozy, he was more cultured than that?
[R.B.] - no, but sarkozy did not play that card, that's what's interesting. Sarkozy has not tried to pretend to be the offspring of the elite, which is the card that Macron has played to seduce these people. But he managed to deceive them. That's it ... Sarkozy was going to see these people by being verbally dexterous, saying we'll do business ... I do a service ...
- verbally dexterous is the word that corresponds ... [laughter]
[R.B.] - he did it shamelessly, that's what he paid at the end. He had no complexes. Macron is the opposite, he's saying I'm going to show you that I'm really superior intellectually, etc., and he succeeds by saying that. He manages to make them believe that. While, again, I was 21 years old and I see that it is bouillabaisse, it's really ridiculous. So I see him at that moment, and from there I identify the sham and I say to myself, this guy we will have to deam with him for a long time.
I already wrote a text about him at the time, and indeed I saw him go up ... twice , i'm asked to work with him. Because what I'm describing here is also the science po networks, it's
how someone named Jean-Pierre Jouyet, who was director of the finance inspectorate, is very important. Why Jean-Pierre Jouyet is important, you may remember, he became Secretary of State for European affairs under Sarkozy.
Now this man, up to then, claimed to be of the left. From a deep socialist left, he was the best friend of his friend Hollande, who will not forgive him for a long time, except that he will eventually forgive him, he will appoint him secretary general of the Elysee
So see, he switches from right to left, from left to right, as if it was indifferent.
The
"at the same time" of Macron is that, it's people who are at the heart of the elite and who have only one interest is to preserve their power
Democratic suffrage, democratic appearances, are things that are annoying for them. These are things that at one point force them to go through periods of trough conditions and Macron solves this problem. He'll say, but no,
with me you'll be able to be right or left you'll still have power. That's the strength of Macron, that's why he seduces so much these elites. And so this Jouyet it augurs, in fact, going from the right to the left as if nothing had happened, it's going to be the matrix of the macronie,
it's him who will actually allow it to go up, especially with the help of Laurent Bigorgne, president of the Montaigne Institute, which is basically a kind of think tank that is lobbying for the CAC40 by making pseudo-studies that it distributes in the public space explaining that the allocations unemployed are too high and the SMIC too, and really, it is funded explicitly by the CAC40, there is nothing hidden, you go to the site, they tell you that it is the think tank CAC40
and
Birgogne who actually is very close to Jouyet and together ... there I go into details, I go a little fast, but ...
together they will provide Macron the second mammal
The first mammal is the notoriety with the oligarchs who propel you, the second mammal is the access to the technostructure, that is to say those who will actually give you relay in the state and among the secondary financial elites that will allow you to have the money to campaign,
this is what he will do after the Ministry of Economy, but also to have relays within the state to make you obey
because there is a moment when the state must also obey you
it is not obvious that this high public function is losing all its power by looting, by privatization etc,
theoretically if you look at this sociologically, you can tell, all these high officials, these enarques, they should rebel, they should say but wait, you are taking away jobs, you are taking away the meaning of our job,
how are we doing now to ...
we struggled to get through the ENA when we were 20 years old, to sacrifice our life etc, to be powerful, and there you are going to make us ... to make us whores.
these social classes do not rebel because there is going to be a whole system of prebends (advantages) that I detail, which has been put in place, notably by Jean-Pierre Jouyet, who comes from the biggest bodies of the state, and who will create a solidarity network around Macron
- what opposition to all this? for the first time, in any case, of my life, I see people who arrive at Place de la Concorde and who want to beat up Macron
=========== [video excerpt about yellow jackets] ===========
[R.B.] - why do yellow jackets exist? it is in reaction to the fact that
we no longer say what's real, that is to say, they no longer feel supported or represented, they feel that we are no longer telling them the truth
we talk to them about ecological transition, carbon tax, and so on, and at one point they say,
they do not give a darn about us, and nobody says that they do not give a darn about us, so what are we forced to do? we are obliged to speak, and to rebel against the system, and to make it fall
because this system ... that's why we have this kind of verticalization against macron and co, this obsession about the fall of macron
because they feel that the only possibility is to overthrow the table completely, it is to re-inaugurate all of this political, media and social space,
yellow jackets rebel because they feel betrayed by this political class, journalistic etc, because they see well that they no longer fulfill their role
that, on the contrary, t
hey have enslaved themselves to this system, either out of interest, or out of viciousness, or simply out of unconsciousness or stupidity, and that suddenly they no longer play their role either as spokesmen or representatives, or intermediate and, in fact, these people are people who must be removed
and what yellow jackets do? they take these subjects head-on, certainly in a clumsy way, certainly with a discursiveness that may appear limited at first, but precisely because it is those who have believed the most in the system, it is those who believed in representative democracy, it is they who agreed to delegate their word to journalists, to policies etc,
it is they who rebel, it is these people who were the heart of the regime
those who believed when we told them we will take care of you, it is for the best, it will allow you to free you, to live your life, without having to worry about these subjects
and at one point they were so betrayed, and Emmanuel Macron is really the epitome in fact,
- epitome?
[R.B.] - that is, we condense everything, we arrive at the ultimate point of corruption of this system,
at one point they are forced to get hold of politics, to say well, we went too far here
so we have to start talking on our own, because we do not trust you anymore
so yes it gives crazy speeches in the beginning, but very quickly that are structured, very quickly that begin to build links between the ISF and the fuel tax, things that the elites themselves had not succeeded to conceive, had failed to put into speech, because they had let themselves be garlanded, by the discourses on the ecological transition
- but still survives an opposition, there is still an opposition?
[R.B.] - but no ....
- Let's take "France insoumise", ... let's take .... uh .... who has your sympathy if I understand correctly
[R.B.] - my sympathy, we're going to say it like that, "France insoumise" was, paradoxically, one of the last chances of the system, one of the last chances of Macron. This ability to bring him the contradiction, to limit his propensity to enter into a kind of systemic conflict of interest, a catastrophic endogamy, and finally, policies that will actually serve only around them, because this loss of link with the people, the fact of being constituted only by oligarchs etc., obviously it has an effect in the end, you end up not knowing why you do politics, you do not feel the country, so you let yourself be influenced by those around you, and of course you put in place policies that are unfair without you realizing it
Emmanuel Macron did not draw the consequences, he said that we end up not seeing, and he ended up doing us his lacrimal speech about the retired woman, the divorced woman with children etc, he caricaturally tries to come back to a reality he never knew, because he was propelled from the very beginning into other environments ...
- he is not credible in this area ...
[R.B.] - of course, because he never knew that, he has no organic connection with all that, because he is built by these people
and so "France insoumise" has this capacity somewhere ... the strength of "France insoumise" is to have felt it, to have elected people who come from these popular layers, this social diversity, people like Quatennens, Panot , have a journey rooted in the real world
that's why I think they had such a social and political echo during this period despite their low number of MPs
it's because we felt that they were putting pressure on macronism by inverting ...
- but you speak in past tense, you say they had?
[R.B.] - yes, because obviously, today "France insoumise" is just paralyzed by the fear of being pushed out. Today "France insoumise" is afraid to leave with the system, so they are in a very very tense speech, which is to say, how do we manage not to appear as exploiting the yellow jackets, and in same time on their side playing an institutional game, that's what Jean-Luc Mélenchon is trying to do by saying that we need the dissolution of the Assembly, he wants a new Prime Minister, while people want the resignation of Macron, at least those who protest, who they want out first is not Edouard Philippe
Today if tomorrow you make people vote for new MPs, I think that nobody will vote, and that nobody will consider that it will change anything, because there is no representative able to carry these words, because people no longer trust them,
this is where I try to explain it in the text, why is it finally a regime crisis?
because we have damaged this representativeness, this intermediation that the political, the journalist etc was supposed to play ,
it was corrupted precisely by setting up this oligarchic system, which means that the media no longer are truthful, real etc, that it necessarily creates a break, a desire to break and not just reform
and it's interesting that ... the Macron speech is a reformist speech
it is someone who is in the system, who thinks that the system as it exists remains functional etc, or
what we see emerge with the yellow vests is people who say, it's not a reform that we want, it's a break, a fundamental break
and this rupture obviously it can not go through the people who are inside the system, including those who played the same role artificially because obviously they did not really believe it, as "France insoumise"
so this crisis is affecting everyone, and that's what I think explains ... that's why the violence that arises
because suddenly, how do you impose a break? it is by the balance of power
this violence is part of the mobilization, contrary to what was said ...
- who responds to another violence, finally ...
[R.B.] - I do not think so, I think they provokes it, and I think they are right to provoke it because it is essential today
today the only way to bring about change is to shake these people
it's actually showing that politics is not a game, it's not a career opportunity,
is that there are real physical bodies that are affected by it
and you told me earlier before the show that there is a study that showed that there were 15,000 deaths by unemployment
- by INSERM, this is a very serious study, by people quite serious, applied, and who take amounts of data, and who established the figure of 15,000 deaths that can be attributed to unemployment ; There you go. And that figure, they established that some time ago, two-three years I think, we made them come here, we talked about this topic... no success! we just had soft reactions as: "what a misfortune, what a big misfortune" ...
But 15000 people !! it's violence ...
[R.B.] - Above all, it is political violence, it is one of the violence that is not felt by the men who are in power today
that's what I'm trying to describe, especially in the second part, there is a system of nepotism instituted in which we make sure above all the preservation of our own interests, that goes with the fact that we will never be threatened with social precariousness, of ... this is where all corruption also has an insidious effect
it is not in itself, the loss of a few million euros of salary, which are paid to people who should not receive it,
it's the fact that suddenly you take these people out of society
these people no longer suffer the risks and consequences of the policies they apply, so suddenly for them it becomes a virtuality, politics, and the relationship to the real becomes virtual
- and here you mention the elite factory, the schools that manufacture the elites,
[RB] - ... so at 22 you are paid 6000 euros a month by the state, you know that until the end of your life, if you participate in the system, that is to say that if in the end you submit to the interests we described earlier, of these oligarchs,
... in fine ... it means indirectly, then you will always be protected
well, what I'm saying is that it's very important to make these people fear a form of violence, somewhere again
to be afraid,
it means that they feel in their flesh that the decisions they make have consequences and can involve important responsibilities including physical ones
that is to say, there must exist this tremor to make them aware
there I saw an interesting article in RTL that said that according sources of the élysée, macron had been traumatized by his visit to Puy-en-velay (in the french countryside) and that that would actually be the reason for this speech and this concessions that he made, the hundreds of euros he promised, which we know is fake
but that's not the question
these first real concessions since the beginning of the crisis, it would be the fact of this physical fear which it felt
for the first time he realized that it's not a game, that he too could be impacted
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=========== [Video excerpt yellow vests violence against police] ===========
=========== [video excerpt Irène Inchauspé] ===========
[Irene Inchauspé]: big companies will pay, they will distribute bonuses ... all major groups ...
because first, they were really scared to have their heads on peaks, they ...
Oh yes ... big companies, you know,
when there was the terrible Saturday with all the damage, they called the boss of the Medef, I believe Roux de Bézieux, telling him you let go everything. You let go everything because otherwise ...
They felt physically threatened, the big bosses.
[presenter]:
You mean that there was an approach of the big French bosses who physically thought they could objectively be attacked,
now saying "you're nice now, let go with the yellow vests"
[Irene Inchauspé]: There you are. They sent text messages, saying "you say ... we let go on the SMIC, we must distribute bonuses, you let go everything". Voila.
They distribute bonuses, it's not complicated either, they have 80% of their employees who are abroad so it does not cost much either, because it only concerns France, so ...
[presenter]: your remarks are true ...
[Irène Inchauspé]: here, a few tens of thousands of employees will not cost them much, and they can pretend to be the good ones and it avoids them to have their heads cut
[end video]
- what strikes us in the reports that were made for our show "là-bas si j'y suis", is that among the yellow vests, among all these demonstrators, these people often came from far away ... - one did things on paris, but also in the Sarthe (french countryside)... -
it is the extraordinary sincerity of their words
"là-bas si j'y suis" will return in its thirtieth year next year, so we interviewed many, many people, in popular circles, modest backgrounds, activists, ... not only huh but there is still anyway ... you see if you do something in a demo, well guys are there, they are a little CGT, a little ... they are unionized, so ...
[R.B.] - there is a discourse
- Here you are, come with your microphone, and they will tell you interesting things, but there is still an idea, they are driven by a ...
well, we know that journalism is a manipulator manipulated, but that accepts more or less manipulation
that's not like that here, not at all! people are totally sincere, ...
[R.B.] - they are learning to talk again ...
- absolutely, it's the conquest of the word, it's the homeland of the word, yeah ...
[RB] - that's why there was this scorn on the part of all the editorialists, all the journalists etc,
because they saw people who obviously are in a babble, because they have ... there is this contempt for a double reason, because on the one hand they feel threatened, because they feel that, who is targeted by the fact that these people start talking? Well, it's those who carried their word, finally who were supposed to carry their word, so it's journalists
and of course suddenly they want to censor them by saying, "no you are talking nonsense, you don't know how to speak, while we know that very well"
- it's up to us to speak for you
[R.B.] - You see how ... it's proof that we have to exist ...
because in fact ..
what this movement threatens is their very existence, so of course there is an extremely strong resistance, and of course again, I come back to that, their speeches is not necessarily very elaborate or anything at the beginning, because it's a thing that comes from the heart, which is impulsive and that will be built from precisely this relearning
- that comes from the heart and comes from life, because what brings them together is their experience, I earn this little money, the 10th is the end of the month ...
[RB] - this is the great discovery of this "movement", in quotation marks, for those who had wanted to forget it,
is that the experience is producing thought, the relationship to the reality is producer of thought,. .. it's not enough to go through studies to actually think
we can think very directly from the body,
from the immediate relationship to the real, and that's what these people do
they show that they are capable of association of ideas, of intelligence in the sense of making links, that were not capable of doing theoretically trained people, etc.,
to whom in fact we have learned to manipulate people, and even politicians, who have done the same studies a little better,
because at science po, where 3/4 of the journalists or the CFJ [Journalists Training Center] are trained, they added the ENA, so they added 2 more years of training in order to ...
they were selected to be just a little above the others, and so know how to manipulate them
Well, at one point we go back to the base, we say, very simply, stop with the PLF, with all the acronyms that are another thing to manipulate people,
we say no, very simply : there we take 5 billion, there we redistribute to 100 people, there is a problem
we tax 30 million people on one side to give them to 1000 people, you can tell me anything... you can hide all this as you want
, in fact there is a scam and it's as simple as that, and it's true
and what we try to disguise in the form of populism etc, it's not even a true talk, it's just the obvious,
we have forgotten so much the obvious, that we try to denounce the fact that it is said
- and then there are already achievements ... I consider that any struggle, as soon as it begins, is a already a victory, and there what we saw is the changes in the relationships between people
[R.B.] - it's joy, you don't feel lonely anymore,
- absolutely
[R.B.] - so far in fact there was a will - and I want to say that -
as the crisis of 2008 for example, was so under the radar of the media, in the sense that there was no political force that was able to put words on this crisis
there is no media force that has been able to describe it, to the point where we had people who were going to burn themselves in front of the french employment agency (pôle emploi) to try to put this word in the public space in action
there was so much that
there was an individualization of suffering
people started to make themselves responsible for their personal situation
- Yes that's it...
[R.B.] - because there was no longer any capacity to collectively ...
because in addition there was the collapse of great speeches, great ideologies, therefore,
and so
we had a moment when this violence turned against itself
and ...
- It bursts ...
[RB] - there is a break of this idea, now we say,
in fact we were not responsible for our misfortune, because we are millions to have suffered, we have millions to have suffered that, suddenly it's the happiness of feeling part of something, when you've been crushed, reduced to ...
and that affects all social classes, it's something that everyone can understand
and that's an extraordinary achievement obviously
and there was a second achievement, I don't remember which.. [laughs]
- Thank you, Ruan Branco.