Documentaries on psychopathy

[Buddy]

Re: Online documentary film about psychopaths

I can confirm the transcript matches the video. I was happy to see Robert Hare in it.
The documentary only mentions the possibility of psychopaths in politics a couple of times, and only in passing, so I posted a comment to help draw attention to the political angle.



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August 2nd, 2009 at 20:33

If psychopaths can be politicians, then maybe we ought to figure out a way to get them tested. After all, aren’t our politicians responsible for more human deaths and sufferings than any particular psychopath in prison?

Check this out for some eye-opening information:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/159686-In-Memoriam-Andrzej-M-obaczewski[/quote]

 

[gaman]

Re: Online documentary film about psychopaths

I watched this a short time ago, and it was really interesting to see how convincing they can be. Even knowing (or assuming because the documentary says so) that one of these guys is a psychopath doesn't stop them from being easily perceived (at least by me) as being reformed or working towards reform, trying to help others, showing remorse and regret, etc. It is really scary to think about.

Hopefully a way will evolve to detect them easier but I doubt that the PTB would let that happen :(

 

[Guardian]

Dailymotion posts psychopath vid

Dailymotion just posted the documentary about psychopaths ...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe1cv0_psychopath-psychopaths-documentary_shortfilms

Awareness is spreading and Dailymotion has a HUGE following. If someone googles the word "psychopath," cassiopaea.com gets the #2 & #3 hits ..so we are likely to see an increase in visits from people who have been victimized by psychopaths


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[Laura]

Re: Dailymotion posts psychopath vid

Yup, awareness is spreading since I made that first post about it on October 2st, 2002 - after which I started getting death threats.


Edit: that should be 1st, not 2st.

 

[Guardian]

Re: Dailymotion posts psychopath vid

I started getting death threats.

Always a clear sign that you're doing something right

 

[Guardian]

Re: Dailymotion posts psychopath vid

Yup, awareness is spreading since I made that first post about it on October 2st, 2002 -

Angry sts forces aside...if you can get mass saturation of the concept in under 10 years...that's OUTSTANDING!

 

[OneSoul]

Re: Dailymotion posts psychopath vid

Guardian, I agree completely, word is getting out more and more exposing the dangers facing everyone, from the individuals involved and the agenda they promote, to the way important issues are misrepresented intentionally.

When the first report came out about the East Anglia climate emails I told a fellow I work with, "This is what I live for, to see these gigantic lies exposed!" ( We've worked together for years so he knew how to take that. ) I pointed him in Dave McGowan's direction with the Laurel Canyon material; now he's reading the SOTT page all on his own!

If I remember correctly, I think the very first time the C's said anything protects that they said "awareness," and then they started to say "knowledge." I think what we're striving for is the best way to tip over the little apple cart the STS forces are pushing!

 

[Guardian]

Re: Dailymotion posts psychopath vid

If I remember correctly, I think the very first time the C's said anything protects that they said "awareness," and then they started to say "knowledge." I think what we're striving for is the best way to tip over the little apple cart the STS forces are pushing!

Yup! It's almost like doubling a penny, then 2 pennies, then 4 pennies...etc. Before you know it, ya got a whole lot of pennies :D

 

[realitybugll]

hi guys. so I thought I would post this here.

Yesterday I was visiting: http://raising-a-psychopath.blogspot.com/

I think its another useful primary source-document on psychopathy. So far I am finding the father sane. The story this father shares is very intriguing, probably a distraction for me, but at the same time I am learning about psychopathy in detail. I have not read any books on this subject. hopefully I am learning the truth. Also I find it encouraging that, in dealing with his son, the father did stumble on to the work of Robert Hare... some of his books are recommended on the reading list.

I am going to add some additional info. this is the first post the guy did in 2008 (he is still writing by the way, and I am only through october 2008)

Today is September 18th, 2008, the 5th anniversary of our “Gotcha Day” and we will likely celebrate with a cake. Except for my wife and me “Gotcha Day” isn’t a celebration. It is another reminder of how our choice 5 years ago has devastated our family. The only hope it offers is knowing that we are one year closer to being able to kick him out of our house: one year closer to normalcy.

“Gotcha Day”, for those who don’t know, is the day that Lucas (not his real name) joined our family. Five years ago today we welcomed this cute, hyper, hurt 6-year-old boy into our home. A boy who was “at risk for Reactive Attachment Disorder”.

 

[realitybugll]

interesting... I just read the tuesday november 18 2008 post on the blog mentioned above. here, I'll quote it. he is just providing some answers to the question 'how do you deal with a psychopath", from things he has read I believe.

If you can’t treat a psychopath, how do you deal with one?
“Once you know or suspect what they are, avoid them. Any further contact with a psychopath will be truly damaging.”
-- www.cassiopaea.com

“Whenever you interact with a sociopath, you not only risk yourself, you risk others. If you desire to have a relationship with a known sociopath there is something wrong with you.”
-- Dr. Liane Leedom (_http://www.lovefraud.com/blog/2008/01/11/ask-dr-leedom-are-there-psychological-tactics-for-dealing-with-a-psychopath/)

“Cut your losses. Rather than make fruitless attempts to adapt to a hopeless situation – usually by giving in, accepting your lot in life, or losing your self-identity – it may be better to recognize that your emotional and physical survival requires that you take charge of your life.”
--Robert D. Hare, PhD in “Without Conscience”

“If you suspect there is a psychopath causing havoc in your life then you need to avoid them as much as possible.”
-- Mark Tyrrell in No strings on me: Is there a psychopath in your life?

"Psychologists do not usually like to recommend avoidance, but in this case, I make a very deliberate exception."
-- Martha Stout in The Sociopath Next Door



“Of course, if you are the parent of a young psychopath, you cannot simply give up on your child.”
-- Robert D. Hare, PhD in “Without Conscience”

I found that startling! on of his sources is cassiopaea.org, I wonder in what ways he may be aquatinted with the forum. sorry not that important really

 

[Hildegarda]

_http://raising-a-psychopath.blogspot.com/

I think its another useful primary source-document on psychopathy. So far I am finding the father sane. The story this father shares is very intriguing [..]

One of his very first posts says:

During the first 8 years of our marriage one of us would occasionally ask, “Do you want a kid?” Each time the answer came back from the other, “No.”

In September 2002 one of us (I don’t even remember which) asked again and the answer came back, “Maybe.”

So we went to the local Wendy’s restaurant and discussed it.

Neither one of us wanted to give up our careers to raise an infant. We didn’t want to use fulltime daycare. Plus neither one of us was really interested in a baby, just a kid. So we said, “What about adoption?” We both seemed to like the idea and started looking into it.

So we contacted a local agency that specializes in “older-child adoptions”. [..]

I have seen and heard this line of reasoning before -- within the extended family even, so it's close to home -- and it always disturbs me.

First, if you are this busy with your career, and if the "voice" calling for having a kid is a tiny "may be", then perhaps you are not ready for the commitment of parenting and shouldn't have a child of your own. If you value spending quality time with older children, there are plenty of opportunities for that: teaching, leading a local Boy Scout troop, volunteering for homeless families, etc.

Second, for life of me I don't understand why anyone would think that parenting a biologically unrelated older child with a host of behavioral problems will be EASIER than parenting a baby, either born of oneself or likewise adopted, and base their choices on that. Really, with all the modern conveniences, changing diapers and bottle-feeding is not that hard, and babies sleep a lot. While a verbal and active first-grader is a fully-formed and intense individual that requires a lot more attention and conscious response from a parent. On the other hand, the public school is free, unlike full-time infant daycare, so is it a question of cheaper accommodations for the child while both parents continue to concentrate on their careers?

All this suggests certain disconnect from basic common sense, which IMO has a strong component of aloofness / flat emotional affect in many cases, from the part of the parent. It is important because it makes it harder to distinguish whether the child's problems are independent of any issues that the parents have.

In this case, I will not disagree with the statement that the father is sane, he certainly is a sane and rational human being. His son definitely has a problem with psychopathy. In view of the above though, I wonder whether the parent's own aloofness and unpreparedness had something to do with how things turned out. Attachment is a two-way street. Not to forget, the child did begin to attach to his first foster family before the adoptive parents got him, so there was additional trauma of that.

I agree that the blog is an interesting source on psychopathy, but it might be useful to keep the above in mind, IMO.

 

[Laura]

Thanks, Hildegarda, you pretty much expressed the same things I was thinking. I mean, they went to Wendy's to discuss the life of another human being????

 

[anart]

Sounds like he's talking about adopting a dog. They didn't want a puppy since they're too messy, they wanted it already housebroken so it would be 'less work' for them. It's really chilling, actually.

 

[Nević Nenad]

During the first 8 years of our marriage one of us would occasionally ask, “Do you want a kid?” Each time the answer came back from the other, “No.”

In September 2002 one of us (I don’t even remember which) asked again and the answer came back, “Maybe.”

So we went to the local Wendy’s restaurant and discussed it.

Neither one of us wanted to give up our careers to raise an infant. We didn’t want to use fulltime daycare. Plus neither one of us was really interested in a baby, just a kid. So we said, “What about adoption?” We both seemed to like the idea and started looking into it.

So we contacted a local agency that specializes in “older-child adoptions”. [..]

This sounds to me like some imagination characters from the movies, this does not sounds like a humans. Totally unconscious, dead mater playing their roles how they are thought to do. I can assume that they saw some movie or some show or something on TV with that topic (children) just before they "made a decision" to adopt child. Without empathy and any emotions. Very scary.

 

[Hildegarda]

This sounds to me like some imagination characters from the movies, this does not sounds like a humans.

you'll be surprised

The whole things reminds me very much of that lady, Terry Hanson, who put her 7 y.o. adopted son back on the plane to Russia and had a stranger deliver him to a government office with a note saying that she relinquishes him. She claimed that the child had severe behavioral problems which his home orphanage never informed her about. This is a known and huge problem, and I do not doubt that what she said was true. On the other hand, look at the circumstances: she is a single mom, busy working and always out of the house; the kid and his brother are under latchkey all day, with minimum supervision. No psychologists were visited and no special arrangements for this child appear to have been made. After a few months only, she and her mom just sent him back as a piece of unwanted merchandise. Is this a person who was not only ready and able to parent such a child, but also actually promoted attachment by modeling it with her own behavior? Not really, doesn't look like it.

This guy, he says all the right things about psychopathy and makes these seemingly accurate observations about his son. Until one sees that his writing is not real-time and not sequential. At the time when he started writing his blog, he already threw in the towel; so now he is using this information to dissociate himself from his son by presenting him in a certain way.

This is always very sad to see.