Doing this over and over again forever is kinda ass; my humble opinion

[Evan]

I always find myself falling back to the idea that time doesn’t exist, but rather is like records in a jukebox. Pondering the implications of that is endlessly fascinating to me. The idea that God could grow “bored” with the endless possibilities of songs, playlists, performances, performers, projects, eras…All spread out not only over time, but worlds upon worlds in places known and unimagined…rhythms of peoples, of the spheres, of the universe. So completely endless and full of possibilities and surprises. How could anyone possibly hit a wall, when walls are being torn down constantly? Over, under, around, or through. Just when you think every possible chord and note has been played out a million times, someone finds a way to make it new. Bored? Impossible.

 

[JGeropoulas]

Great topic for discussion. Being a curious person, as are most of us here, I used to joke that my "hell" would be to get to heaven and be escorted to my cloud and given a harp to play--for eternity! As others have said, boredom is largely related to our 3D outlook (destination vs. journey) and perceptions (or lack thereof). Since the universe is fractal in nature, seems there'll always be a level of existence or creation within the one that's currently familiar. Our sense of lack, which drives us to seek more, stems from our lack of awareness and knowledge of ourselves and creation. This lack of awareness leaves us feeling unstimulated, which is the root of boredom. But the more we become aware of the fractal nature of reality, and experience the energies composing it, within and around us, the more stimulated--and less bored-- we'll be. Someone once pointed out that the western view of heaven is "getting everything I want/need", whereas the Buddhist view is ceasing to want/need anything--an idea probably related to the comment attributed to Jesus, "The kingdom of heaven's within you". In summary, seems to me that the more we're able to fully BE, the less we'll feel compelled to DO (or be bored when there's nothing new to do).

 

[JGeropoulas]

"Divine Cosmic MInd...
Help me grow in knowledge
Of All Creation
...
That I may know and love
The Holiness of True Existence"
-- Prayer of the Soul

 

[Weontv]

I’m just lying in bed thinking about everything from 1st to 7th density. The cycle and whatnot. And then it’s rinse and repeat. This is the part I never understood but never wanted to get into.

What’s the point of experiencing consciousness over and over again? Like sure, learning and growing etc, but why so many times? Why endlessly if there is no point to anything. Why is god so bored?

The possibilities of manifestation are infinite.

Don't you think that part of why souls would recycle back to the earlier densities is to experience ignorance again? Knowing everything may get old. Like playing a video game you've beat 1000x.

You also have to keep in mind that every time the merge to 7D happens, a new universe is born that installs everything learned during that current iteration, to create a new universe with new mechanics.. new content.

I don't think there is no point. I think we are creating our "own point" as we go. God experiencing itself.

The issue I think you are experiencing, and this is probably quite common from the people on here.. myself included.. is that this planet doesn't offer much, physicality is slow and uninteresting, watching the slow evolution of our fellow man while also having access to information that we get on here further polarizes us. It is very hard.

I think a lot of people on this forum are Wanderers. They have talked about the revulsion of physicality you get here. The alienation. I would imagine that on the 4th Density some of the more interesting things we get to experience are what we are actually missing. Parapsychological ability, traversing space, having full access to the universe, merging technology with mind, actually being rewarded for merit, etc.. Things that many of us may have already had, which falls in line with you saying you aren't able to connect with higher consciousness. Because these bodies have likely been modified to be that way.

Think about how much there is to learn outside of this little 3D earthly drama we experience. The thought of being able to eventually learn/relearn these things make it all worth it imo.

 

[T.C.]

I'm maybe off with this, but here's what I wrote in that other thread:


It's also interesting what Aristotle had to say about infinity:

This quote doesn’t display properly for me. Does anyone else have the same issue?

 

[Evan]

This quote doesn’t display properly for me. Does anyone else have the same issue?


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I see it, but it’s very faint, almost invisible. I copied it and pasted it below and it looks fixed:

Aristotle as we shall see in the next chapter, did not deny the infinity of time. On the contrary, he affirmed the eternity of the world—that it has no beginning or end. But an infinite time does not exist at any one moment. Like the infinite series of whole numbers, it is only a potential, not an actual, infinite. So, too, the infinity of division is a potential, not an actual, infinite. Just as you can go on adding number after number without end, so you can go on dividing anything that is continuous without end. The number of fractions between the whole numbers two and three is infinite, just as the number of whole numbers is infinite. Both infinities, however, are potential, not actual. They do not actually exist at any moment of time.
At this or any other moment, Aristotle maintained, there cannot be an actual infinity of coexisting things, as there would be if the atomists were correct in their view. They held, it must be remembered, that at this very moment an actually infinite number of atoms coexist. It is that and that alone which Aristotle denied. His reasoning on this score ran as follows. Either the number of actually coexisting things is definite or indefinite. If it is infinite, it is indefinite. But nothing can be both actual and indefinite. Therefore, there cannot be an actual infinity of any sort—an actually infinite number of coexisting atoms, an actually infinite world, an actually infinite space that is filled with actually existing units of matter. The only infinities that there can be, according to Aristotle, are the potential infinities that are involved in the endless processes of addition or division. Since one moment of time succeeds another or precedes another, and since two moments of time do not actually coexist, time can be infinite.

 

[Menna]

I’m just lying in bed thinking about everything from 1st to 7th density. The cycle and whatnot. And then it’s rinse and repeat. This is the part I never understood but never wanted to get into.

What’s the point of experiencing consciousness over and over again? Like sure, learning and growing etc, but why so many times? Why endlessly if there is no point to anything. Why is god so bored?

You are making assumptions in your post which indicates more awareness knowledge and experience is needed.

You are a part of the larger consciousness system. Your goal is to lower your entropy thus updating and improving yourself and the system. There are other physical realities besides earth. You say go from 1st - 7th like you are going through school. This process is experienced by you and through you.

As you evolve and develop you experience different states of being non physical part physical and so on within different “rule sets” realities.

You are not 100% physical after 3D…What you know is yourself now in this “rule set” reality and the system wants you to “upgrade” what you know about yourself and how you live in this 100% physical reality as a 100% physical being…there is a lot to learn and you can experience the non physical and then come back to the physical…

It’s an interesting system and you haven’t learned everything. Your mindset is limiting and the way you are thinking will keep you in a limiting experience this is the cycle you are in and I can infer that it’s not the best.

You will move forward when you choose. The here and now can be better than it is for you right now once this happens your mindset will change because you have changed… read more and experience more

 

[aragorn]

I see it, but it’s very faint, almost invisible. I copied it and pasted it below and it looks fixed:

Aristotle as we shall see in the next chapter, did not deny the infinity of time. On the contrary, he affirmed the eternity of the world—that it has no beginning or end. But an infinite time does not exist at any one moment. Like the infinite series of whole numbers, it is only a potential, not an actual, infinite. So, too, the infinity of division is a potential, not an actual, infinite. Just as you can go on adding number after number without end, so you can go on dividing anything that is continuous without end. The number of fractions between the whole numbers two and three is infinite, just as the number of whole numbers is infinite. Both infinities, however, are potential, not actual. They do not actually exist at any moment of time.
At this or any other moment, Aristotle maintained, there cannot be an actual infinity of coexisting things, as there would be if the atomists were correct in their view. They held, it must be remembered, that at this very moment an actually infinite number of atoms coexist. It is that and that alone which Aristotle denied. His reasoning on this score ran as follows. Either the number of actually coexisting things is definite or indefinite. If it is infinite, it is indefinite. But nothing can be both actual and indefinite. Therefore, there cannot be an actual infinity of any sort—an actually infinite number of coexisting atoms, an actually infinite world, an actually infinite space that is filled with actually existing units of matter. The only infinities that there can be, according to Aristotle, are the potential infinities that are involved in the endless processes of addition or division. Since one moment of time succeeds another or precedes another, and since two moments of time do not actually coexist, time can be infinite.

Weird that the quote is faded, to myself it appears normal. Thank you for copy-pasting. To be clear, that passage is from the following book: Adler, Mortimer Jerome. Aristotle for Everybody (pp. 173-174). (Function). Kindle Edition.

 

[T.C.]

I see it, but it’s very faint, almost invisible. I copied it and pasted it below and it looks fixed:

Aristotle as we shall see in the next chapter, did not deny the infinity of time. On the contrary, he affirmed the eternity of the world—that it has no beginning or end. But an infinite time does not exist at any one moment. Like the infinite series of whole numbers, it is only a potential, not an actual, infinite. So, too, the infinity of division is a potential, not an actual, infinite. Just as you can go on adding number after number without end, so you can go on dividing anything that is continuous without end. The number of fractions between the whole numbers two and three is infinite, just as the number of whole numbers is infinite. Both infinities, however, are potential, not actual. They do not actually exist at any moment of time.
At this or any other moment, Aristotle maintained, there cannot be an actual infinity of coexisting things, as there would be if the atomists were correct in their view. They held, it must be remembered, that at this very moment an actually infinite number of atoms coexist. It is that and that alone which Aristotle denied. His reasoning on this score ran as follows. Either the number of actually coexisting things is definite or indefinite. If it is infinite, it is indefinite. But nothing can be both actual and indefinite. Therefore, there cannot be an actual infinity of any sort—an actually infinite number of coexisting atoms, an actually infinite world, an actually infinite space that is filled with actually existing units of matter. The only infinities that there can be, according to Aristotle, are the potential infinities that are involved in the endless processes of addition or division. Since one moment of time succeeds another or precedes another, and since two moments of time do not actually coexist, time can be infinite.

If there hadn’t been such a politically and religiously motivated effort to deny the existence of anything but the material world at that point in history - if he hadn’t been so biased against the theory of a formal, non-material realm of potentialities - he could have solved this problem, having the cake and eating it at the same time.