Donald Trump wins 2016 US presidential election

[Pierre]

Trump protests intensify, as doubts swirl about spontaneity

By Perry Chiaramonte
Published November 10, 2016
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/11/10/trump-protests-intensify-as-doubts-swirl-about-spontaneity.html

With tens of thousands of people taking to the streets to protest Donald Trump’s presidential election victory, questions are swirling about whether the anger is as organic as advertised.

From coast to coast, demonstrators are burning flags and effigies of the president-elect while declaring that they refuse to accept Trump’s victory. But observers online are claiming that, in some cases, protesters were bused to the scenes - a telltale sign of coordination.

“Anti-Trump protestors in Austin today are not as organic as they seem,” one local in the Texas capitol tweeted Wednesday, along with photos offered as evidence.

Others claimed to have found ads posted on CraigsList in which a Seattle-based non-profit was soliciting “Full-Time Activists.”

“We are looking for motivated individuals who are seeking Full-Time, Part-Time, and Permanent positions,” reads a line from the ad from Washington CAN! posted on Wednesday.

Rumors have also been circulating that the new batch of anti-Trump protesters has been bankrolled by individuals like billionaire liberal activist George Soros and groups like Moveon.org.

“WTF, @georgesoros busing in & paying #protestors to destroy cities is domestic #terrorism. #fakeProtests #BlueLivesMatter have tough days,” read one tweet in response to the viral picture of buses in Austin.

Another theory floated on social media is that many of the signs that were distributed at rallies across the country appeared to be exactly the same, indicating they were printed and distributed by an organized group.

Trump tweeted about the protesters Thursday night:

Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!

Wednesday’s protests occurred in nearly every major city, and more are expected to come in the days leading up to President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration.

Some of the most troubling dissent was in the city of New Orleans where protesters wound up defacing the Lee Memorial, spray painting “Die Whites Die” and “F--- Trump” and “F--- White People.”

Other messages scrawled on the memorial included "F--- Pence" and "We are ungovernable" next to a symbol of the letter "A" in a circle -- protester shorthand for anarchy.

In Chicago, several thousand people marched through the Loop. They gathered outside Trump Tower, chanting “Not my president!” One resident, Michael Burke, told The Associated Press that the president-elect will divide the nation and stir up a deep-seated hatred.

Hundreds of protesters gathered near Philadelphia's City Hall despite chilly, wet weather. Participants — who included both supporters of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton and independent Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who lost to Clinton in the primary — expressed anger at both Republicans and Democrats over the election's outcome.

In Boston, thousands of anti-Trump protesters streamed through downtown, chanting "Trump's a racist," and carrying signs that said "Impeach Trump" and "Abolish Electoral College." Clinton appeared to be on pace to win the popular vote, despite losing the electoral count that decides the presidential race.

In the Midwest, protesters gathered in Minneapolis, Omaha, Nebraska and Kansas City. Mo. The Des Moines Register also reported that Iowa’s capital city saw some people protest as well, though it was kept to small numbers.

On the West Coast, some of the protests became unruly with fires being started. Thousands of protesters burned a giant papier mache Trump head in Los Angeles and started fires in Oakland intersections.

Los Angeles demonstrators also beat a Trump piñata and sprayed the Los Angeles Times building and news vans with anti-Trump profanity. One protester outside LA City Hall read a sign that simply said "this is very bad."

Late in the evening Wednesday, several hundred people blocked one of the city's busiest freeways, U.S. 101 between downtown and Hollywood.

 

[Vulcan59]

Maybe he's just playing up to Bibi - Trump hails Israel as ‘beacon of hope’

US president-elect Donald Trump hailed Israel as a “beacon of hope to countless people” on Friday in his first public message to the country since his upset victory.

“Israel and America share so many of the same values, such as freedom of speech, freedom of worship and the importance of creating opportunities for all citizens to pursue their dreams,” Trump said in the message published by the Israel Hayom newspaper.

“Israel is the one true democracy and defender of human rights in the Middle East and a beacon of hope to countless people.”

He added that he hoped his administration would play a “significant role in helping the parties to achieve a just, lasting peace,” saying that any deal would have to be directly negotiated between the two sides.

France is currently pushing for an international conference to discuss peace in the Middle East, but Israel says any talks should be bilateral ones between the two sides.

The Palestinians have called for international involvement, accusing Israel of reneging on past agreements.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was among the first leaders Trump spoke to after his election victory.

Israeli right-wingers have hailed Trump’s win as an opportunity to consolidate control over the West Bank.

Meir Turgeman, chairman of the Jerusalem municipality planning committee, told Israel Radio that it provided a green light to revive suspended permits for Israeli construction in East Jerusalem.

He said the municipality intended to authorize thousands of housing units that had been frozen.

Education Minister Naftali Bennett, who heads the Jewish Home party, said on Wednesday that the US election result meant the idea of a Palestinian state was over.

 

[obyvatel]

I have my doubts that "Trump is a spellbinder". He is a far worse orator than others imo. He does display strongly narcissistic traits and has openly flaunted them. He has alienated many demographics on his campaign trail while energizing controversial and in cases pathological elements of the society (like white nationalists of the KKK brand).

Well, the video of his early interviews does show that he knows how to present himself, be calm and collected, and talk without insults. And that's why I actually suspect that his supposedly lesser than Hillary's debate skills could be another trick. Maybe exactly in order to draw a certain crowd? Unless, of course, he did get "radicalized" or "baffoonized" with years, not to mention becoming orange . What's for sure, his earlier version appears to be more "spellbinding" than the current one. But then, it probably does to his targeted audience. And as Alana said, it IS a great concern that now the white supremacy crowd will feel very comfortable...

Trump is no fool or buffoon. He has built a business empire. He knows the value of getting the right people with the right skills working for him to get what he wants. His narcissistic qualities along with business acumen means that when he gets into anything, specially when it is as important as running for POTUS, he has strategy, plan and resources in place that gives him a fair chance to come out on top. He wouldn't be getting into it otherwise. He is not a naive idealist dreaming to save the world or a phony politician pretending to save the world. He went into the campaign believing he could win and he and his team have got that result.

Remains to be seen how it goes from here on. Personally, I do not think he will encourage the white supremacist type elements after election unless his hand is forced in some ways. That is a risk with narcissistic people in power. But if he is allowed to do what he wants to do, he will try to run the country as a viable business which can go some ways in resetting the deplorable financial situation. The danger is that the white supremacists can be resourced up and manipulated to cause trouble by elements working for the status quo and against Trump which can then be blamed on him. OSIT

 

[Joe]

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The "people" are not with him - Trump lost the popular vote in the election (he just won through the US's quirky 'electoral college' system). So don't think this was a landslide.
...

The more I think about the claim that Hillary won the popular vote the more I think it's bogus, that the numbers were fudged. I mean, you have a male candidate who is lambasted primarily for being a sleeze and misogynist for the entire campaign, and his opponent is a woman, and yet a majority of women still vote for HIM?

From that I don't conclude that the women vote numbers were fudged in favor of Trump (after all, if anyone was gonna rig this one it was gonna be the Hillary camp) but that the Hispanic and African American votes were fudged against Trump.

Basically, I don't buy the perennial more or less 50-50 split in votes in Western countries. How is it that in most major votes, elections or referendums, the country is always divided down the middle? Is a large majority of the people never on the page on ANY major issue? That 50-50 split is pretty useful for the worn out 'left right' paradigm we've lived under for decades.

When one party gets 51% in an election, it's always plausible to have the other party get elected 4 or 5 years later because the last election was 'so close'. That way these bogus left/right parties can maintain control and pursue their identical policies forever.

If an outsider President or PM were ever elected in a Western nation with, say, 80% of the vote and if he/she performed decently enough, it would be pretty hard to justify why, in an election 4 years later, his/her support had plummeted and he/she was kicked out.

That's why "they" never want a truly populist and decent leader to get into power, with their left/right track record, they'd never be able to get him out, short of assassinating him. Russia is an interesting contemporary example of this, where Putin has been in power in some capacity for the last 16 years, and there's no sign of his popularity waning, and guess who really, really hates Putin and Russia.

 

[angelburst29]

A writer for the Guardian newspaper called for a “presidential assassination” in America over Twitter – then quickly deleted her account.

UK Journalist Calls for 'Presidential Assassination' (Copy of tweets)
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201611111047354252-UK-journo-calls-for-assassination/

It's about time for a presidential assassination," Monisha Rajesh tweeted to fellow journalist Mark C. O’Flaherty.

O'Flaherty responded "haaaa – that's all we’ve talked about for the last hour."

Rajesh is a freelance features writer who contributes to the Guardian and has written for a number of other major UK newspapers as well as the New York Times. O'Flaherty is a contributor to the Financial Times, the Sunday Times and other publications.

The Daily Caller reports that the Guardian gave them a statement explaining that Rajesh was an infrequent freelance contributor, not a staff writer, "and the Guardian cannot take responsibility for comments expressed by her in a personal capacity."

A few days before the election, the Los Angeles times fired freelance journalist Steven Borowiec for tweeting that he wished then-presidential candidate Donald Trump would die, saying in a statement that they found the comment "inexcusable." "The Los Angeles Times is committed to fair, evenhanded coverage of the presidential campaign, and expects all journalists representing the paper, including non-staff contributors such as Mr. Borowiec, to adhere to this standard in their articles and social media posts," the LA Times statement explained. Reports on Twitter claim Rajesh has been fired by the Guardian.

Threatening the US president is a felony in the United States; however, for charges to actually be filed, the threat has to be interpreted as a declaration of intent. Comedians, cartoonists and other public and private figures frequently speculate about presidential assassinations or suggest they are events to be wished for without demonstrating intent, and are thus protected by the right to freedom of speech.

The last time a sitting US president was assassinated was John F. Kennedy in 1963.

 

[Atreides]

Give them all more rope. Nothing shows a person's true colors like letting them speak freely. When you call someone racist, and then complain about "white america", you show who is actually racist. The same for sexism. I say we invest in shovels and short sell salt mines :)

 

[Skyfarmr]

Another driving force for Trump voters:

My husband and I got health insurance for the first time in 10 years through the Affordable Health Care Act. It was either sign up or pay a penalty which rivaled the annual premiums, so we thought, why not? After having health insurance for less than a year, we get a letter in the mail less than two weeks before the election from our Health plan provider, stating that our premium will be increasing by what amounts to 700%!! for 2017, AND our out-of-pocket cost will also increase 5 fold.

This outrageous increase didn't drive me to vote for Trump; however, after talking to many folks, that price hike was infuriating to many voters and drove many toward his camp. This topic came out and hit the election cycle about the same time the race started tightening in the last two weeks before election.

How and why these price hikes are happening has not been explained as of yet.

 

[sbeaudry]

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The "people" are not with him - Trump lost the popular vote in the election (he just won through the US's quirky 'electoral college' system). So don't think this was a landslide.
...

The more I think about this claim that Hillary won the popular vote the more I think its bogus, that the numbers WERE fudged. I mean, you have a male candidate who is lambasted primarily for being a sleeze and misogynist for the entire campaign, and his opponent is a woman, and yet a majority of women still vote for HIM? From that I don't conclude that the women vote numbers were fudged in favor of Trump, but that the Hispanic and African American votes were fudged against Trump. Basically, I don't buy the perennial more or less 50-50 split in votes and referendums in Western countries. How is it that in most major votes, elections or referendums, the country is always divided down the middle? Is a large majority of the people never on the page on ANY major issue? That 50-50 split is pretty useful for the worn out 'left right' paradigm we've lived under for decades.

When one party gets 51% in an election, it's always plausible to have the other party get elected 4 or 5 years later because the last election was 'so close'. That way these bogus left/right parties can maintain control and pursue their identical policies forever. If an outsider President or PM or whatever were ever elected in a Western nation with, say, 80% of the vote and if he performed decently enough, it would be pretty hard to justify why, in an election 4 years later, his support had plummeted and he was kicked out. That's why they never want a truly populist and decent leader to get into power, with their left/right track record, they'd never be able to get him out, short of assassinating him. Russia and Putin are an interesting example of this.

Agreed. It's extremely difficult to believe that it was this close. I tend to think this may be a reason there will be no recount. It might show falsified votes if people looked closely. They wouldn't want to expose that Trump won by more than was reported. That still leaves the electoral college though...

 

[whitecoast]

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The "people" are not with him - Trump lost the popular vote in the election (he just won through the US's quirky 'electoral college' system). So don't think this was a landslide.
...

The more I think about this claim that Hillary won the popular vote the more I think its bogus, that the numbers WERE fudged. I mean, you have a male candidate who is lambasted primarily for being a sleeze and misogynist for the entire campaign, and his opponent is a woman, and yet a majority of women still vote for HIM? From that I don't conclude that the women vote numbers were fudged in favor of Trump, but that the Hispanic and African American votes were fudged against Trump. Basically, I don't buy the perennial more or less 50-50 split in votes and referendums in Western countries. How is it that in most major votes, elections or referendums, the country is always divided down the middle? Is a large majority of the people never on the page on ANY major issue? That 50-50 split is pretty useful for the worn out 'left right' paradigm we've lived under for decades.

Agreed. It's extremely difficult to believe that it was this close. I tend to think this may be a reason there will be no recount. It might show falsified votes if people looked closely. They wouldn't want to expose that Trump won by more than was reported. That still leaves the electoral college though...

I really hope the majority of voters didn't support Killary. I don't think the cosmos would look favorably down on a majority tacit endorsement of murder and media collusion in manipulating the democratic process (which is what Killary represents). Didn't the C's say that, after tolerance of torture, tolerance of political assassination was going to be the next mark of the beast? Is that where all these public calls for Trump to be "neutralized" are going? Is that the reason they're whipping people into a frenzied fear of concentration camps for minorities?

I share Alana's concern about the neonazi groups that openly endorsed Trump becoming haughty and arrogant... they could be useful idiots and end up furthering the demonization of Trump not two days into being President-Elect. The spike in hate crimes (mostly hijab-pulling and spraypainting swastikas) isn't encouraging... although I'm sure at least some of them are hoaxes for attention.

Edit: The KKK is hosting a "victory parade" in North Carolina. In some alternate and more virtuous reality we'd see a counter-protest by Trump supporters "pouring water on the fire" as Laura suggested. I'm sure some left-wing groups may protest it, but I wonder if those who voted Trump would even be invited to march on their side???

_http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kkk-announces-north-carolina-%E2%80%98victory%E2%80%99-parade/ar-AAk9irS

 

[Cosmos]

Amongst all the Trump bashing in the media right now, this article stands out for not really going with that theme:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/10-reasons-donald-trump-might-9238054

 

[Ellipse]

If Trump do what he say he will shoot down no? Judge by yourself how far he goes in denouncing the system.

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I guess this is an assembly of Trump's sentences.

 

[angelburst29]

A few encouraging comments I've heard from people:

• "Maybe now we'll actually start fighting ISIS instead of supporting them"

This stood out to me immediately because I have just read an article stating that this was just reported:
NUSRA ON THE RUN - TRUMP INDUCES FIRST MAJOR POLICY CHANGE ON SYRIA
_http://www.blacklistednews.com/Nusra_On_The_Run_-_Trump_Induces_First_Major_Policy_Change_On_Syria/55221/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Some excerpts:
"That changed the day the president-elect Trump set foot into the White House. While Obama met Trump in the oval office, new policies, prepared beforehand, were launched. The policies were held back until after the election and would likely not have been revealed or implemented if Clinton had won.

The U.S. declared that from now on it will fight against al-Qaeda in Syria:

President Obama has ordered the Pentagon to find and kill the leaders of an al-Qaeda-linked group in Syria that the administration had largely ignored until now and that has been at the vanguard of the fight against the Syrian government, U.S. officials said.
That shift is likely to accelerate once President-elect Donald Trump takes office. ... possibly in direct cooperation with Moscow. "
.............

US President Barack Obama has ordered the Pentagon to deploy more drones in Syria with the aim of locating members of the Jabhat Fatah al Sham (also known as Nusra Front, or Jabhat al-Nusra) radical group, The Washington Post reports.

Pentagon Ordered to Deploy More Drones in Syria to Hunt for al-Nusra Militants
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201611111047318545-drones-syria-nusra-front/

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) – The US Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) will have more authority and more resources to go after Jabhat Fatah al Sham leadership, the newspaper said on Thursday citing anonymous US military officials.

According to the officials, JSOC-controlled drones were already conducting more operations in September and at least four "high-value" targets have already been killed as a result of the operations.

 

[SummerLite]

Thanks for posting Ellipse, well done video and inspiring message. Notice how Trump uses his speech patterning here. The film has a familiar quality to it and reminds me of something I've seen before but can't put my finger on it. I wonder who the creators where. Shades of Pink Floyd maybe...

 

[Cosmos]

Mabe, just maybe, we should have a fresh look at what Trump has said during the last months and years, with new eyes. Especially during the live debates, being directly confronted by a whole bunch of clear psychopaths and their media spinners:

1:

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2:

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3:

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4: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3818756/Trump-pretends-stumble-mocks-Hillary-fainting-9-11-memorial.html

5: http://www.politico.com/blogs/south-carolina-primary-2016-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/gop-debate-2016-trump-911-219260

6: http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/02/15/donald-trump-jeb-bush-george-w-bush-911-attacks.cnn

One thing is certain: If we are dealing with a human being here (in the sense of a working conscience), it must be incredibly difficult to take a direct stand against that media machine and the psychopaths that run it. It also must be putting a lot of pressure on such a person, where this person can easily be pressed to say "stupid" and even "crazy" things. Assuming of course anything like that could be true or near to reality.

If that is the case, we really have to question everything we thought we knew thus far about Trump and reexamine all the things that broght us to certain conclusions and how much of it was taken out of context or spinned by the media machine.

I have to say that I really feel quite shocked, if any of that should be true, how well the psychopathic machine has created that phantasy. If that is the case, I'm really shocked and also a bit ashamed of myself for having fallen for it.

Maybe I'm going way to far here and the Trump thing is really just another psychopathic game, but from the looks of it at the moment, it more looks like the psychopathic establishment is going crazy and makes one grand mistake after another.

As Lawrow said: We really need to judge Trump by his actions when he becomes president and it is still two months until he gets into office.

 

[Turgon]

One thing I'd like to make mention of. I was listening to CBC Radio and they were discussing the election results, and it's pathetic how they are trying to spin things around. They started out with a segment where they exhaustively repeat and discuss all of trumps sexcapades and how he is a misogynistic womanizer, his disrespect of women, etc. And the way the segment was set up was to make this portion have an impacting impression on the psyche. Because immediately afterwards, they quickly bring up, in a dismissive way, Hillary's email and Clinton foundation scandals, which I almost missed, considering how much time was spent on Trump. The kicker being, after discussing how Trump would bring both scandals up throughout the campaign, that it was compared to yet another form of sexism! Basically alluding that the reason those scandals have been brought up, is not because Hillary is a criminal involved in shady dealings, but because she's a woman! Thank DCM I don't listen to mainstream media very often. They seem to be in overdrive, fomenting a lot of race and gender division, trying harder then ever to split and pigeonhole people into pockets using a level of emotional manipulation and programming that, even though has been going on for decades and longer, seems more in-your-face, and bordering on insane right now.