Don't flatter yourselves.

[Beau]

You may want to look at this thread

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/board,39.0.html

Davey, looks like you messed up the link to the thread you wanted to share. The above link leads to the Newbies board, not to a specific thread.

 

[EricG]

Dear Menna,

I figured if there was one member who would have a problem with my post it would be you, and it appears I was correct. I'm telling you this right here and now. YOU ARE STS, NOT STO. Unable to handle any sort of criticism because you have a tiny little insecure heart that can't stand "outsiders" undermine your spiritual name that you have garnered for yourself here. Too much light (=knowledge/wisdom), too little love. The Law of One considers STS the light/love path whereas STO is the love/light path. Highly self-focused you are. All the knowledge in the world won't change that. I advise you to consider that you were wrong about your polarity, and the sooner you realize this, the faster you can transcend the ladder of STS. This is not a damnation, as one can always shift polarity. Instead it is intended as an enlightenment for yourself.

You are out of line with this post. You are acting like a jerk and that is not tolerated here.

I bolded that part because it it says it lot about DoomEtc. Seems like a clear case of projecting IMHO.

 

[Anamarija]

Dear DoomAndGloom​IsALie,
I can sympathize with (if I understood you perfectly) you because I had a moments, when I start to write regularly on this forum, why nobody answer my post and checking all the time do I have some response. I cannot claim that you have the same program, I'm just suggesting maybe you can check inside of you is that your problem?

But then I realize couple of things:
1. This is not forum for people with a big ego or people who need only attention and don't have nothing to give or don't won't to give. This is a only place to learn on quality way. Why? Because you will never get so many informations that you couldn't process for your life time.

2. Here nobody will tell you have to do this or that, they will give you guidance where to look, because you have to strengthen you desire to learn and explore by yourself - the best way to learn.

3. They don't have hierarchy like every other place on Internet or in the real life, they just have a degrees what is depend from you knowledge and your intention to grow and learn. Is there any better way to progress than that?

4. If you cannot see opportunity here each day, If you don't search by yourself and read everything that interest you here on the forum, if you don't share your life experience your opportunity will just pass by you.

So, first of all, recognize your programs and then try to answer but with open heart, this is a place where truth is must valid.

Of course, this is only my thinking. For me, this is way to HOME. :)

 

[lainey]

IMO doom and gloom probably won't be back.

I'm not so sure. DoomAndGloom​IsALie probably is enjoying himself blue by posting what he has posted. I think he will be back!

Yeah, he's baiting us. I wouldn't waste your energy.

 

[SummerLite]

Hi doom and gloom and all,

May I ask where your Law of One material is sourced from? Is this the Ra channeled by Ruekert?

From my point of view, it seems like your quite preoccupied in defending the structures you've built in your mind concerning what you consider "Truth". People here express views that don't line up with your structure and so you feel the need to attack and let them know they are wrong... This program your running has been called 'the right man' ( I wish I could remember by whom). Thinking one is right, has the knowledge (etc) and a compulsion to do battle with those they see wrong and the need to correct them. If you look at that closely, you can see an inflated ego running the show, yes? Something you yourself look down upon. I would say this whole mental pattern is the structure and expression of the predators mind.

I know what its like to be imprisoned by mental structures that have been created by others. My weakness, what made me vulnerable to being manipulated was how smart I thought I was. I considered myself well informed, having a spiritual high ground which was nicely wrapped in "specialness". Another mental program run by the unhealthy ego and so the predators mind once again.

Do you want to free your mind? Then it will be necessary to see the prison your trapped in. But the lure of "rightness" and all those chemical surges may be to intoxicating.

 

[Palinurus]

This program your running has been called 'the right man' ( I wish I could remember by whom).

Hi SummerLite,

The term Right man syndrome originates from A.E van Vogt and Colin Wilson and was further developed by Robert Anton Wilson.

Sources (among others):

_http://phinnweb.blogspot.nl/2004/10/right-man-and-fear-of-losing-face.html
_http://michaelprescott.typepad.com/michael_prescotts_blog/2013/06/the-right-man.html
_http://www.catvincent.com/?p=1021

 

[SummerLite]

Ah Ha! Thanks Palinurus. I was racking my brain on that one, thought maybe it was Wilhelm Reich and he could have spoken of it as well. At some point in my past this concept made an impression. I've read Colin Wilson so that may be the source.

Looking at the descriptions in the links you provided, I see these as the more extreme cases. I observe this behavior as being VERY common in people and shows itself regularly in less dramatic ways then those described.

"Van Vogt points out that the Right Man is an 'idealist' -- that is, he lives in his own mental world and does his best to ignore aspects of reality that conflict with it.

Liked that quote, seems to cover a broad area. -http://phinnweb.blogspot.com/2004/10/right-man-and-fear-of-losing-face.html

 

[riclapaz]

Hello DoomAndGloomIsALie, I hope to give some clues to try to calm your feelings, they seem out of control.

Now, I sometimes check in to read some topics out of nothing but sheer innocent interest yet I can't help but out my feelings on how some members seem to be operating on some kind of spiritual ego where they attribute STS behaviour on all kinds of things which are in reality NOT NECESSARILY STS at all.

That such practice EE, go for a walk to the forest, swim in the sea, something that makes you leave your emotional hijacking, which allows for more clear thoughts.

Yet y'all seem to agree that this or that is manipulative (aka STS) and if some (mostly newer) member disagrees then you even go a step further and label this person as STS.

We are all STS. ;)

If anything, since none of you have ever set foot into STO 4D reality, none of you in fact can know for certain ("Understanding is not of 3rd density" is my favorite teaching of the Law of One), therefore saying such things as if you are some kind of authority on the matter (no, the universe does not care if you have read the entire C material or not) does in fact seem a little bit manipulative don't you think? Who are you to decide what is STO and what is STS? WHO ARE YOU??

All is one and one is all.

Hence, I offer you a choice, take my message at heart and think about it with an air of acceptance

I think not necessary. :)

or judge it and ignore it and keep doing whatever it is you are doing.

done. ;)

 

[DoomAndGloomIsALie]

Man, this forum is so heavily moderated, it's almost like a prison. I had made 2 more posts but they never got through. Why then should I bother here anymore? It's almost like a prison of the mind. Good luck on your spiritual journey then guys, we'll see who gets there first. The funny thing is, it's almost never the one who thinks he's ahead! Haha... I know for sure this forum isn't the hallmarks of STO, because there is no freedom of expression here! Freedom is STO quality.

 

[sitting]

Now, I sometimes check in to read some topics out of nothing but sheer innocent interest yet I can't help but out my feelings on how some members seem to be operating on some kind of spiritual ego where they attribute STS behaviour on all kinds of things which are in reality NOT NECESSARILY STS at all.

Hi,

One more comment if I may.

Going over your post again, I understand better the thrust of your complaint. It sounds familiar because I've seen it many times before. Most recently in rather lengthy fashion--from member B588.

Laura gave a detailed answer to each of her specific points. You might find it helpful if you take some time to review that exchange. Lastly I hope you do not pull back from all this but instead, give us your thoughts, in good faith and positive intention. And hopefully without premature conclusions and accusations. You might be pleasantly surprised by the outcome.

FWIW.

 

[Soluna]

After reading this thread a few thoughts came to mind which I'd like to share, and perhaps get some feedback on to see if perhaps I am on the right track, despite perhaps the points being slightly tangential to the topic (although I do feel they may be somewhat pertinent).

I feel the majority of the forum and communities aspire to be of a more STO alignment, however as we currently are NOT STO, our aspirations are perhaps tainted and misguided in the sense that we may take the highlighting of our STS natures to heart in a negative way - and acting emotionally would respond on a negative manner to the original post.

The main theme of my thoughts - were that it is NOT WRONG to be STS, although those of us who perhaps strive to be more STO naturally find the opposite STS nature abhorrent and 'evil'. There NEEDS to be STS, just as much as there needs to be STO - the C's have said that there is no right or wrong, and that there is always balance. Just as in our current density, there must be birth and death. I think the concept that STS is not 'bad' is a very difficult thing to grasp.

Also posters like DoomandGloom, I feel should realise that as much as they are entitled to their opinions, they are also just as ignorant as the rest of us - however the tone and approach of your posting is definitely not conducive to mutual growth and learning. The members of this community are very much involved in the effort of helping one another grow and find their way, not to label rights and wrongs (unless within the boundaries of forum rules which our moderators enforce =D )

 

[T.C.]

After reading this thread a few thoughts came to mind which I'd like to share, and perhaps get some feedback on to see if perhaps I am on the right track, despite perhaps the points being slightly tangential to the topic (although I do feel they may be somewhat pertinent).

I feel the majority of the forum and communities aspire to be of a more STO alignment, however as we currently are NOT STO, our aspirations are perhaps tainted and misguided in the sense that we may take the highlighting of our STS natures to heart in a negative way - and acting emotionally would respond on a negative manner to the original post.

Hi Soluna

I think 99% of the responses were really pretty kind and externally considerate. Even when Doom... went on the offensive with Menna, Menna didn't 'bite' either. And it seems it was only after that post that some people got a bit more firm. Is it more about how it has made you feel? Did Doom...'s post hit a nerve in you that created a need to think more about the subject of STS and STO?

The main theme of my thoughts - were that it is NOT WRONG to be STS, although those of us who perhaps strive to be more STO naturally find the opposite STS nature abhorrent and 'evil'. There NEEDS to be STS, just as much as there needs to be STO - the C's have said that there is no right or wrong, and that there is always balance. Just as in our current density, there must be birth and death. I think the concept that STS is not 'bad' is a very difficult thing to grasp.

The idea that STS isn't 'bad' fits a universal, all-is-one, concept - but we use language to make our lives easier and I'm quite comfortable with labelling many of the ideals, chief traits, behaviours and actions which characterise a being as being truly STS, as 'wrong' and 'bad'. It can help to figure out the opposite, and come to a better definition of what traits and behaviours are 'better', in terms of my aim.

I guess meditating on the idea that "STS is not bad" might make for a kind of philosophical exercise, but I'd rather have a negative emotional response to an atrocity, than try to ponder it from a 'high up' level where my nature doesn't belong yet.

Hope that's helpful.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

He's accusing the forum of what he himself is doing in his post. He says don't label or judge and that's all he did. He says take heed of what others say and he did none of that. Funny how that works.

 

[SummerLite]

DoomAndGloomIsALie's last post was expected. From my experience, a persons whose thinking/beliefs are shaped firmly inside "the box" can't see anything but the box. Any suggestions that things may be different are ridiculed. Its a common situation of course and a good one to watch for in oneself. Theres got to be a crack somewhere in that box so a person can gradually move through. All things in there right time I guess.

Funny how this forum is called a prison for the mind.... :D It does nothing but study the traps that imprison the mind and show the way out is my experience.

 

[trendsetter37]

He's accusing the forum of what he himself is doing in his post. He says don't label or judge and that's all he did. He says take heed of what others say and he did none of that. Funny how that works.

This is what I noticed as well. So my conclusion was that maybe his/her intentions seem to have some ulterior motive. And in this case Doom, the way you conducted your approach (contradictory) is more telling than anything else.