Indeed. Can’t remember the last time i was so immersed in a movie.
Even started thinking about a trip to Jordan.
Dune (2020)
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Even started thinking about a trip to Jordan.
DianaRose
Jedi Master
I've only watched the 1st movie so far, but what you said was my issue. I've read the three first book in the Dune series and Dune (the 1st book is my fave novel of all time) but if I didn't have a good grasp of the story already, I would've been completely lost and I wouldn't have understood the plot. Also, I wasn't happy that the philosophical aspect and politics seems to be a bit lost. However, I thought that the acting and cinematography was excellent, though I'm not sure I was too fond of Zendaya as Chani (she's a bit one note imo).
From everything I've read about the second movie, it seems to be a good movie, but it doesn't seem to capture the essence of what Dune was about. In the books, while Paul does lie to the Fremen about his status as a messiah, he actually truly is a kind of messiah of humanity. But in order to save humanity, he will have to commit extreme atrocity and he's aware early on of the kind of atrocity needed, but the question is, is he willing to lose his own humanity in order to save the human race (end of the book 2 gives the answer). Also, the end of the movie in regard to Chani (her leaving Paul) is puzzling because Paul's love for Chani and his desire for her to escape a certain fate drives the 2nd novel, Dune Messiah. Also, the 3rd book, Children of Dune, is about the children he had with Chani.
I hope that if there's a 3rd movie, it won't turn into a girl power type of movie with Chani and Irulan against Paul because that would really not be what the book and series were about.
Yes, it feels unbalanced. For me, the focus on the 'tragic love story' (and some one-note acting) sits uncomfortably in such an overwhelmingly epic context. Shame, as there is so much else I love about the movie.
truepositive
Jedi
It's spectacle over long term story unfortunately.
Yeah this is the problem. It's a failed film, perhaps on purpose as politically, the Fremen represent the Arabs.
Pictures are nice but this part II did not transmit the spirit of the books, only on the surface.
I just finished watching part two and found it to be a good sci-fi film and a tribute to the art of war and destruction with a soundtrack that is epic with hints of Gladiator and world music.
Although it reminds us of a war where the natives try to defend their lands from the invading imperialists, it does not let the viewer forget that we are dealing with alien civilizations with ancestral culture and religion, as well as the universal myth of the savior messiah.
Although it reminds us of a war where the natives try to defend their lands from the invading imperialists, it does not let the viewer forget that we are dealing with alien civilizations with ancestral culture and religion, as well as the universal myth of the savior messiah.
I saw the second movie not too long ago and enjoyed it altogether. True, that the movie does not capture the essense of the book that well but I don’t think they can make one which would. Dune novel series is a difficult adaptation to on-screen due to the way its written and how the “plans within plans” are explained via characters’ thoughts.
I quite liked the visuals and the planet, Arrakis works for me. I just hope they keep on going and produce a few more as there is plenty of good material in the next few books. To me its a more involving and intelligent sci-fi than e.g. Star Wars, which actually borrowed a few ideas from Dune.
I quite liked the visuals and the planet, Arrakis works for me. I just hope they keep on going and produce a few more as there is plenty of good material in the next few books. To me its a more involving and intelligent sci-fi than e.g. Star Wars, which actually borrowed a few ideas from Dune.
FWIW, Dune part 3.
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Sandworms rise from the sands of Arrakis in exclusive sneak peek at 'Dune: The Graphic Novel, Book 3'
The finale of this deluxe illustrated adaptation of Frank Herbert's 'Dune' surfaces on July 16.
meadow_wind
Jedi Council Member
The game "Dune Awakening" looks epic! I've never played an MMO (Massively multiplayer online) game and I wish I had time to spare for that, but I don't 
They have just released today the 2nd interview divulging certain aspects of the game:
5:30-7:00 Introduction and Agenda
7:00-13:30 Alternate History
13:30-22:35 Narrative and Spirituality
22:35-27:38 Character Creation
27:38-29:55 Closed Beta Update
29:55-36:33 Server Structure
duneawakening.com
The game's narrative takes place in an alternative timeline where Jessica gave birth to a daughter instead of a son, and where Dr. Yueh is exposed before his betrayal, which means Duke Leto and house Atreides are still alive. The reason for Paul's removal was to allow more space and creativity for the game's narrative since the survival mechanics will not be just against Arakis (water, worms, sandstorms), but also in politics (factions, houses, guilds, etc.)
They have just released today the 2nd interview divulging certain aspects of the game:
5:30-7:00 Introduction and Agenda
7:00-13:30 Alternate History
13:30-22:35 Narrative and Spirituality
22:35-27:38 Character Creation
27:38-29:55 Closed Beta Update
29:55-36:33 Server Structure
New Story Cinematic is Live, Next Direct arrives 20 June! |
Tune in on 20 June for new details!
duneawakening.com
The game's narrative takes place in an alternative timeline where Jessica gave birth to a daughter instead of a son, and where Dr. Yueh is exposed before his betrayal, which means Duke Leto and house Atreides are still alive. The reason for Paul's removal was to allow more space and creativity for the game's narrative since the survival mechanics will not be just against Arakis (water, worms, sandstorms), but also in politics (factions, houses, guilds, etc.)
SlipNet
The Living Force
I finally got around to seeing parts 1 and 2 these last 2 nights. I admit I haven't read Herbert's novels, but overall I found the films very enjoyable. Perhaps (with the LOTR adaptations in mind), there will be extended versions released later which flesh out the characters and story a bit, because I feel like a deeper story wasn't really being done justice here. I came away feeling that certain aspects of the story were being focused on to the detriment of the larger tale. Still, having said that, it was an audio-visual feast, just not as deep as I wanted it to be. I guess there's gonna be a part 3 in around 3 years eh? Kudos to Hans Zimmer for a sensitive and evocative soundtrack, and I especially enjoyed Javier Bardem's portrayal also. I watched David Lynch's 1984 adaptation years back and hated it, they just didn't have the tech to do this type of story justice back then. Overall as a total experience I'd give it 4/5, well worth watching if anyone's still undecided.
tschai
Dagobah Resident
The first installment was fairly close to the first novel, some items were left out, but it was still very well done. Casting was excellent, and I was especially impressed with the portrayal of the ornithopters!
I read the second novel but couldn’t remember much from it, but once I watched the second film it came back to me.
In all, both are well done, very close to the books in much the same way as the Lord of the Rings movies portrayed Tolkien’s Middle Earth. Worth watching if you’re into science fiction.
SlipNet
The Living Force
What's with the whole obsession in the story's world with spice? I would have liked a little exposition on that subject, it's just left to your imagination if you're not familiar with the books. A psychoactive substance seemed to be the only explanation in the films. That and using it turned your eyes vivid blue! So a drug, basically, albeit a very powerful one. So much of the story seemed to be about which faction was in control of spice production, which is fine, but I would have appreciated this being explained in greater depth.
As an aside, in the 2010's in the UK there was a very powerful "legal high" synthetic marijuana sold in head shops called, yep, spice! I was still a pothead back then, and yes I tried it. It tasted disgusting, but it was very powerful and apparently very addictive because it was such an intense experience. The UK government eventually banned it in 2016, and for once I applauded them, because this stuff was turning people into living wrecks. There were even apocryphal tales told about heroin addicts turning to consuming spice because it was more effective and cheaper to obtain! It was utterly toxic and it caused many a death in the UK. Avoid it like the plague, I know it's still available on the black market to this day and apparently the prison systems are awash with it.
As an aside, in the 2010's in the UK there was a very powerful "legal high" synthetic marijuana sold in head shops called, yep, spice! I was still a pothead back then, and yes I tried it. It tasted disgusting, but it was very powerful and apparently very addictive because it was such an intense experience. The UK government eventually banned it in 2016, and for once I applauded them, because this stuff was turning people into living wrecks. There were even apocryphal tales told about heroin addicts turning to consuming spice because it was more effective and cheaper to obtain! It was utterly toxic and it caused many a death in the UK. Avoid it like the plague, I know it's still available on the black market to this day and apparently the prison systems are awash with it.
Ricardo
Jedi Council Member
Haven't watched the new DUNE adaptations , well over the last ten years hollowood , whenever i try to watch something out of it , i end up more often than not , disappointed , if not repulsed , there are a couple of things in the old movie adaptation that somewhat look like esoteric , eh , inspired , like the fight in a mostly gold laid room , the blue " thingy " , maybe a hint of orgone ? ( 's been a while last i saw it though )
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
Not sure if this is a satisfactory explanation but I've heard it said spice is meant to be a metaphor for oil.
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tykes
Jedi Master
Recently I was able to see part 2, when it was in theaters I didn't manage to see it and only until now I managed to have some free time to see it at last.
I liked it quite a bit, part 1 is a very good introduction for those who don't know the books, but I probably agree that its somewhat slow pace can be a bit frustrating for the general public.
However this second part has a tremendous pace, in my opinion Dennis Villeneuve is a frankly brilliant director, and apparently he is a big fan of the saga and it shows. Despite lasting around three hours, it never loses interest at any time because it is full of action and cinematic details that make it very entertaining, plus the political, philosophical and religious themes of the original work are cleverly built into the plot of the film unlike David Lynch's 80's version.
For me the film of 2024 along with The Substance.
I liked it quite a bit, part 1 is a very good introduction for those who don't know the books, but I probably agree that its somewhat slow pace can be a bit frustrating for the general public.
However this second part has a tremendous pace, in my opinion Dennis Villeneuve is a frankly brilliant director, and apparently he is a big fan of the saga and it shows. Despite lasting around three hours, it never loses interest at any time because it is full of action and cinematic details that make it very entertaining, plus the political, philosophical and religious themes of the original work are cleverly built into the plot of the film unlike David Lynch's 80's version.
For me the film of 2024 along with The Substance.
