About a month ago I found the ISGP website, and read through the article on the Dutroux scandal. the main part of the article is english translations of the book the "X-Dossiers"
I cannot find the quote, but the author mentions that he is surprised, or it is an interesting fact, that a lot of the victims of Dutroux, or girls that were associated with the network Dutroux was a part of, were abused from an early age by their parents or relatives in a lot of cases.
this was also a really striking to me because it brings up the idea the child-sexual abuse is a cultural thing or normal in some families. rather than it is a network preying on children form innocent families. And my idea would be that a lot of these families that sexually abuse their children get together... and that is the network. that is disregarding the aspect of the rich, and royalty, being linked to this network.
I stumbled upon this one article from a supposed insider in the CP industry. he confirms this aspect of the family involvement in child-abuse.
I have pretty much faced everything what is happening on the Internet regarding this theme. But the gruesome images of crying, raped and even tortured children do not come from commercial producers. They come not from third parties but from bestial fathers and mothers of the children that do this to them. Most are fathers with incestuous tendencies who meet in forums and chats. One begins to make and distribute images, perhaps initially only depicting the naked child - Then, the masturbating child, then the child being raped, and perhaps the child in a forced Sadomaso game. Each parent goes always a little further because he/she always has to offer a little more than the predecessor. In other words, the violent abuse takes place almost always in the family. By publication of these pictures they end up in the Internet. Again the Russians collect the material and publish it on commercial websites.
So here there is the idea of CP industry being a result of abusive families hooking-up to share their activities.
I have been looking at the writing of Demause who is the founder of psycho-history journal. He asserts that child-abuse including sexual abuse, is endemic in societies going back to hunter-gatherer populations in Australia and in new Zealand for instance. he gives a lot of compelling evidence to show that in Europe, china and India for instance, child-abuse was a fact of life at different periods.
this is an excerpt that typed on a sott article comment recently. It is on the middle-age time period, Europe I think.
The erotic beating of children continued in Christian times, because of the anxieties of living with a child who is so full of your projections. Children were experienced as always about to turn into "changelings," those who, as St. Augustine puts it, "suffer from a demon"--which usually meant just that they cry too much, since the Malleus Maleficarum says that one can recognize changelings because they "always howl most piteously," and since Luther says they "are more obnoxious than ten children with their crapping, eating, and screaming."
That children with devils in them had to be beaten goes without saying. A panoply of beating instruments existed for that purpose, from cat-o'-nine tails and whips to shovels, canes, iron rods, bundles of sticks, the discipline (a whip made of small chains), the goad (shaped like a cobbler's knife, used to prick the child on the head or hands) and special school instruments like the flapper, which had a pear-shaped end and a round hole to raise blisters. The beatings described in the sources were almost always severe, involved bruising and bloodying of the body, began in infancy, were usually erotically tinged by being inflicted on bare parts of the body near the genitals and were a regular part of the child's daily life. Century after century of battered children grew up to batter their own children in turn. Public protest was rare. Even humanists and teachers who had a reputation for gentleness approved of the severe beating of children. Those who attempted reform did so only to prevent death. As a thirteenth-century law said, "If one beats a child until it bleeds, then it will remember, but if one beats it to death, the law applies." As Batholomew Batty put it, parents must "keep the golden mean," which is to say they should not "strike and buffet their children about the face and head, and to lace upon them like malt sacks with cudgels, staves, fork or fire shovel," for then they might die of the blows. The correct way, he said, was to "Hit him upon the sides...with the rod, he shall not die thereof."
The theory Demause puts forward as to the reasoning of wide-spread child-abuse is this, which I find really intriguing. this is mainly concerning the mother-child abuse dynamic, but It can perhaps be extrapolated to characters like Dutroux.
THE CHILD AS POISON CONTAINER
The main psychological mechanism that operates in all child abuse involves using children as what I have termed poison containers--receptacles into which adults project disowned parts of their psyches, so they can control these feelings in another body without danger to themselves. In good parenting, the child uses the caretaker as a poison container, much as it earlier used the mother's placenta as a poison container for cleansing its polluted blood. A good mother reacts with calming actions to the cries of a baby and helps it "detoxify² its dangerous emotions. But when an immature mother's baby cries, she cannot stand the screaming, and strikes out at the child. As one battering mother put it, "I have never felt loved all my life. When the baby was born, I thought he would love me. When he cried, it meant he didn't love me. So I hit him.² Rather than the child being able to use the parent to detoxify its fears and anger, the parent instead injects his or her bad feelings into the child and uses it to cleanse his or herself of depression and anger.
For further reading where he gives evidence for the long-history of child-sexual abuse, which is mostly incest, is this article:
_http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Sex/+Doc-Sex-Pedophilia&Incest/UniversalityOfIncest.htm
I'm curious what anyone thinks on this. My current ideas are that I have not determined incest in necessarily harmful as Lloyd Demause has decided. for instance, I believe he infers when a children above the age 15 in Japan or say seven years in india is sleeping with the parents that is sexual-abuse in its self - or that sexual abuse must be occurring. I'm not sure if sleeping with the parents is harmful or if any erotic behavior is displayed that it is necessarily harmful either. but to be honest, generally I accept his premise that the societies that exhibit incest are on the lower end of the scale that Demause creates on child-rearing.
Second, i believe in a Paleo society like Laura writes about in Secret History. I would be lead to believe that child-abuse was not apart of these societies. The data Lloyd gives on the abusive Paleo societies I am most interested in to research for myself, however I do accept after reading some of his papers that all hunter-gather tribes might not be necessarily 'good' which is what I had thought before-hand.
Anyways, reading about psycho-history has really changed my ideas about what our history is like. it seems there has been progress in the U.S and the west on child-rearing. in the modern day there is a lot of compounding factors to the mental health of a child but generally the family-child relationship would appear less narcissistic.
the controversy of Demaus's work seems to stem from the fact that a lot of historians hold and idealized view of history and will not believe that child-rearing has improved in modern times. And Demause makes this one of his central arguments to go out and prove--but to me this appears like a subjective endeavor and hard to do. I am interested in his evidence of what child-hood was like in the past, but do not care very much at his arguments for 'how we live in such a great society' type thing.
Although-- Demause also gives evidence for the fact that in contemporary nations, the U.S, germany, the U.K. It can be as high as 60% of girls that experience sexual abuse. 40% of boys. though not as large as scale, systematic or overt as in the past.
