Egypt Boiling Over

[Laurentien2]

Did he just blame the western (foreign) power for what he did to Egyptian all those years. Blame it all on someone else. Psycho from head to toes. If this guy try to escape is fate by giving is ex associate in crime, I don't give him much time.

 

[Divide by Zero]

I don't understand why he would be doing this unless the US was sending a hidden message to stay.

Also, the huge amount of patriotism in his speech made me feel a bit sick, knowing what he has done in the past.

 

[un chien anadolu]

oh man
vice president just talked the same blind s***t

The vice president Suleyman is known as Mubarek's torturer (he is the ex-chief of the intelligence agency) .

For tomorrow there is a call for 15 million people gathering.

 

[go2]

The power struggle between Vice President Suleiman and Defense Minister Tantawi, with Suleiman backed by Israel, is likely to turn bloody.

Gordon Duff is updating the fluid situation around the Presidential Palace, as various military and paramilitary units engage in a gun battle for control
in Cairo. There are reports of military units joining the crowds and engaging Sulieman's secret police around the Presidential Palace.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Energy of the protest can't go this way indefinite time. I think that it will be settled down in the next few days. There is many little bursts and no some sole big burst, so it will wear off and get quieter. If Mubarak doesn't step down in the next 2-3 days, he will probably stay.

My 2 cents (as people say :) )

 

[Nicholas]

Interesting development:

_http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/witnesses-egyptian-army-withdraws-positions-near-presidential-palace

Witnesses: Egyptian army withdraws from positions near presidential palace

Eyewitnesses on Thursday night said the Egyptian army had troops pulled out of many locations near the presidential palace in Cairo, where they had been stationed since the beginning of the ongoing popular uprising.

Sources said army tanks had disappeared from Salah Salem Street, which is near the presidential palace and President Hosni Mubarak’s residence.

They added troops had withdrawn before today's meeting of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces from which Mubarak was absent.

The sources opined that the withdrawal of the troops could be a warning to the president that the army may not be able to protect him if protesters decided to march towards the palace.

This came shortly after Egypt’s military announced Thursday night that it was stepping in an attempt to end the three-week-old crisis.

The military declared on state television that it would take measures “to maintain the homeland and the achievements and aspirations of the great people of Egypt” and meet the demands of the protesters who have insisted on Mubarak’s ouster.

Several government officials said Mubarak was expected to announce his own resignation and pass authority to his hand-picked vice president, Omar Suleiman.

But if the military does assume formal control of the government, it remains unclear if it would give Suleiman, a former military officer, a leading role.

 

[luke wilson]

Uhmm, this is probably jumping the gun or completely fishing in the wrong lake...

But, could 1 of the cities in egypt be the purported 5D CITY ON A HILL mentioned by the C's? Well, unlikely, seeing I suppose most of egypt is on the lowlands..

(Anart) Is it a specific city that will be a "5D city on a hill"? Can we know?

A: Think big!

Big? Big protests? Big city? Big event? When was the last time a whole country erupted in revolution? Does that constitute big?

Anyways, just wanted to throw that out there. Maybe a soon to be C hit.

Hopefully rationale minds win out and mubarek realises it is game over and steps down. I dont understand his logic of clinging on to power... I read a recent report on SOTT where berlusconi was saying how mubarek is meant to be wise and how other leaders go to him for advice. Well he seemed to have made a completely unwise decision today...

 

[luke wilson]

I have been sifting through some transcripts.

Q: (Andromeda) That's an interesting... (L) Way to look at it. (Burma Jones) So then back to what Galaxia was wanting to know, is there going to be a revolution? Are people actually going to wake up and start... (Galaxia) And do something about it?

A: Oh indeed!

Q: (Galaxia) Now that's what I like to hear! (Andromeda) Is it going to be a very bloody revolution?

A: Yes.

Q: (Galaxia) On both sides?

A: Yes.

Q: (Galaxia) More for the evil side, or more for the good side?

A: Wait and see.

Q: (Perceval) Is it gonna be more concentrated in one particular area of the globe, for example in the US, as opposed to world-wide?

A: Yes. We have mentioned a 5D city on a hill.

Q: (Perceval) Is this in reference to the ice age in terms of the blame that people give to the government and that causes the revolution?

A: There are a few more steps before an ice age. Some of them not very pleasant.

Q: (Perceval) Earthquakes, volcanoes, economic collapse...(Burma Jones) Mass starvation. (Perceval) Plague. (L) Crop failure.

A: All of those and more.

Q: (Andromeda) Great! (Perceval) On that topic, is one of those steps that could happen to cause a revolution...

(L) Well, actually they're talking about steps to an ice age, not steps to a revolution.

(Ailén) They said before the revolution would start, people would only see the oil as a reason to start a revolution.

(Perceval) Yeah, I asked if the ace age was going to cause a revolution. (L) I don't think there's going to be a lot left to have a revolution once the ice age has begun! {laughter} Okay, so all that stuff like crop failure is going to lead up to the ice age.

(L) I would say that if there were crop failures, economic collapse, and so on, that those things would bring about a revolution and while you're in the middle of the revolution THEN everything goes kaflooey. That would be my guess.

A: Yes

Q: (Perceval) So they said "all of those and more". Could one of those "more" things be any revelations about 9/11?

A: That may come too, but don't hang your hopes on "revelations". Rather it will be a change in perception by the public.

Q: (L) Okay. Well, all of that is very, very cheerful. So what are we supposed to do?

A: Continue to spread the truth and program that will unite all people of good will.

Q: (L) So uniting people of good will...

A: Remember we once told you that people would unite against the "invasion" at the time just before the earth changes?

Q: (L) Well, yeah. We were talking about the Nephalim and their stun guns and that sort of thing. But it looks like psychopaths are the new Nephalim, and they're already using stun guns - tasers. And then we asked if they were going to try to stage a fake alien invasion. All of this disclosure business is trying to point people in the direction of alien invasions, trying to get them prepared for some kind of fake alien invasion. Then you said yes, but a real invasion might take place first or earth changes would happen. Now, it's just been pressing on my mind, becoming more and more clear, that we don't NEED an alien invasion with psychopaths ruling this world as their transdimensional agents. And it has occurred to me that when you said that way back when, that basically the invasion has already occurred! It's here, now. It's psychopaths in power!

Everybody is looking and waiting for some kind of aliens; well, aliens are a supernatural phenomenon. Yeah, there is a certain physicality to it, but it strikes me that that physicality doesn't have... what do I want to say? Endurance? It doesn't "vibrate" right in our reality. It can come and go, but it doesn't stay here. So they need agents. They've always needed agents. They've always needed human-looking beings to control, to manipulate, or to even "download into" in a funny sort of way, like a possession or an activation. It's like they're sitting at some control console in some hyperdimensional place controlling their agents the way we control remote control toys.

So anyhow, this is what I've been thinking. Everybody's waiting for something to happen, like disclosure, or after disclosure. But it's already happened. It's here NOW! Any so-called “disclosure” will be a fraud unless they come out and say that it is a supernatural or hyper-dimensional phenomenon, which they are NOT going to say because that completely counters their entire world view that worships the physical universe. That’s where the whole Darwinism, material science, exclusion of scientific study of the paranormal, and so forth, comes from. That sort of thing can NEVER be studied honestly because it would destroy their reality construct.

(Perceval) That's a great screen.

(L) Yeah, they're trying to prepare people for physical, material aliens – “Disclosure” - because they're going to TRY to pull the alien invasion trick or the "alien god" trick and they'll say, "Worship the alien god! Join behind us! We're his high priests!" But it's not going to work.

(Perceval) It's almost like that's been held in reserve if it's necessary. They've prepped people with the idea of aliens.

(L) It's like this gigantic counterintelligence program. And the main thing that I've seen them working to counter is the idea, the concept, the understanding that this phenomenon is a supernatural one. To make that clear, what we have always called supernatural, which is not necessarily "supernatural", is really just hyperdimensional. We've been aware of these things – this other reality – for millennia. They come and go. It's like the finger in Flatland. We're Flatland! Am I on to something with this?

A: About as accurate as you can get without making direct predictions.

Uhmm, the more I read this transcripts, considering earth changes are coming fast, the middle east seems to be the place where people are fighting against the psychopaths, so maybe that is what the Cs are referring to? It appears the middle-easterns are the ones taking up arms against the psychopaths in like an unprecedented way..

Anyways, only time will tell. Things got abit crazy tonight, hopefully mubarek see's sense.

 

[mkrnhr]

Hello LW,
The city on the hill has been discussed in the threads after the transcripts. The real bloody revolutions didn't start yet, but with the near future economic collapse and famine, it may happen everywhere. What we are seeing is just the first drops of rain before the storm.

 

[Tigersoap]

The situation there is not going to turn up good at all. The army is supposed to say where they stand very soon.

I've been listening on the radio how the situation was described by experts (no mention of Israel whatsoever) and what really striked me was how, people where calling asking questions and most revolved around the fear that Egypt would become an Islamist nation like Iran as soon as Moubarak will step down (if he does.)

As if living under a dictatorial leadership was ok ?! As if anything that happened/is happening now was ok ?!

The irrational fear about how Islam is worse than everything else seemed to have taken very well in some minds.

Edit:Typo

 

[Cosmos]

The situation there is not going to turn up good at all. The army is supposed to say where they stand very soon.

I've been listening on the radio how the situation was described by experts (no mention of Isreal whatsoever) and what really striked me was how, people where calling asking questions and most revolved around the fear that Egypt would become an Islamist nation like Iran as soon as Moubarak will step down (if he does.)

As if living under a dictatorial leadership was ok ?! As if anything that happened/is happening now was ok ?!

The irrational fear about how Islam is worse than everything else seemed to have taken very well in some minds.

unfortunately not only in some minds
and it all started with 9 11

 

[durabone]

We got all these mails earlier in the week about Egyptian citizens angry over a sweetheart gasoline deal between Mubarak and Israel, but I was leery. Something about the price Israel pays being less than the cost of Egypt to produce? Something like that? I don't see it in this thread, and I am just wondering if anybody knows anything about it? Thanks.

 

[Dirk]

Seems like he stepped down:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

 

[vaio]

It is official. Mohammad Husni Mubarak has stepped down. Reports coming in that he has left the country with his family from Sharm El Sheikh; a tourisitic city in Egypt.

 

[Nević Nenad]

The situation there is not going to turn up good at all. The army is supposed to say where they stand very soon.

I've been listening on the radio how the situation was described by experts (no mention of Isreal whatsoever) and what really striked me was how, people where calling asking questions and most revolved around the fear that Egypt would become an Islamist nation like Iran as soon as Moubarak will step down (if he does.)

As if living under a dictatorial leadership was ok ?! As if anything that happened/is happening now was ok ?!

The irrational fear about how Islam is worse than everything else seemed to have taken very well in some minds.

unfortunately not only in some minds
and it all started with 9 11

It started with 9 11 for USA and western world, for the rest of the world it was started long ago, and it wasn't just propaganda. Islam fundamentalist and mujahideen warriors really existed, of course not in so many number and not so mystified as after 9 11. There is possibility that "agencies" just took and "broaden" the idea for their needs.


Seems that it will get quieter now. Possibly with turmoils and fights for power between Mubarak's "tails". Bad thing is that does not necessarily means that people will live better in near future.