Egypt Boiling Over

luke wilson said:
I apologise again for my predators mind causing so much havoc. I know chances are nobody really cares and I should probably go back into a dark little corner so as to not cause any more trouble.
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Not at all. Quite the opposite in fact. Now is the time to look closely at your reactions and learn something more about yourself without falling into self-pity. And, of course we care. In fact, if you do care about the Egyptians who died (and it seems you do) then perhaps the best way you can 'repay' them is to use all of this to become more conscious of your 'machine'. A very similar type type of 'machine' that motivated all those Egyptians to go our protesting against their government?
 
Thanks for your input Perceval.

You are very right by saying that I failed to understand the Egyptian point of view. It is hard to come to terms with what one see's with there eyes. I know they have as much right as anyone to fight for there freedom and I shouldnt have judged, which is essentially what I was doing. I was stuck in my point of view and I see why I was accused of lacking empathy and compassion. Eventhough I can kind of get atleast an appreciation that what it is they have experienced is different from lets say what I have, I still really cant grasp there point of view. For now, I can only try and guess what it is.

It has been a hard day, I shut my eyes and wanted to keep them closed but events conspired otherwise. I dont really know if they are open now but I now know it takes alot to open ones eyes to a different level of awareness and accept it without judging it, eventhough it might mean that those locked in that level are paying a high price(which is a subjective concept). I suppose that is free will. Maybe the lesson, was a lesson in free will and developing an appreciation for it.

Anyways, it was still to much, I am just going to take some time off, relax and try and come to grips with what i've learnt. I dont know how people do it, come to grips with everything and not lose there mind or fall into self-destructive loops, it just seems so much. You get to a point where you think, this is enough, i'll put up shop here, then the next thing you know, you're being blown away by new lessons which sometimes can seem to have the power of hurricanes or tornadoes.

I've literally never had a full blown explosion of emotions in such a small space of time like I experienced today, they are so powerful and I immediately shot into black and white thinking as you said. My mind was working like crazy to try and stabalise the whole thing but it was just to much, couldnt cope, kept spiralling out of control until finally the plane hit the ground and the whole cascade stopped.

I dont know how this things work(it keeps happening time and time again), but looking at it in hindsight, I set a trap for myself with the very first post without even knowing, then there is participation from other people then the machine on my part takes over all ending up in lessons being learnt - it is like I am setting myself up. That to me seems like intelligent work but I dont understand how it can happen by itself, surely there has to be a controlling force somewhere. I feel like I have just been put through 10 rounds.
 
luke wilson said:
Anyways, it was still to much, I am just going to take some time off, relax and try and come to grips with what i've learnt. I dont know how people do it, come to grips with everything and not lose there mind or fall into self-destructive loops, it just seems so much. You get to a point where you think, this is enough, i'll put up shop here, then the next thing you know, you're being blown away by new lessons which sometimes can seem to have the power of hurricanes or tornadoes.

I've literally never had a full blown explosion of emotions in such a small space of time like I experienced today, they are so powerful and I immediately shot into black and white thinking as you said. My mind was working like crazy to try and stabalise the whole thing but it was just to much, couldnt cope, kept spiralling out of control until finally the plane hit the ground and the whole cascade stopped.
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The good news is you don't have to come to grips with everything right now. It is also good news that life is infinitely more nuanced and complex than our black and white thinking can encompass. Letting go of needing to have everything figured out and packed into convenient boxes is the platform from which life can be truly adventurous and exciting; something I need to be reminded of often.
 
Carl Jung said:
The psychological rule says that when an inner situation is not made conscious, it happens outside, as fate. That is to say, when the individual remains undivided and does not become conscious of his inner contradictions, the world must perforce act out the conflict and be torn into opposite halves.
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Luke, everyone pays for their existence. The vast majority of men and women pay automatically with their life and death. Once in a while the world turns in times of revolution and great danger. In that moment many experience the possibility of consciousness, by accident. Most blink and pick themselves up and go on living and dying automatically. They suffer starvation, manipulation, and death mechanically. Luke, you chose "voluntary suffering". You have the opportunity to make a big payment when the network "trapped the predator" for you to see. Do you see you are no different than the Egyptians?
 
Luke, this talk by Jacob Needleman was recommended to you last June.

Might do you no harm listening to it again.
 
Unbelievable!!! What in the world is gonna happen next. I expect all those people waiting to hear him speak were thinking he was going to obey the will of the people. That he isn't does not bode well. There may be a terrible reaction.
 
People are furious, and say they can't understand why Mubarak can't understand the point of their protests for the past two weeks - that he HAS to go. Sadly, they don't understand that psychopaths like Mubarak are unable to understand the normal sentiments of normal people.
 
It's all a great example of the way the elite of this world see the masses of ordinary people. If only people in so-called 'democracies' would understand that their leaders are really no different to Mubarak.
 
He really reminds me of the alleged paranoia and delusion of Hitler in his final days.
 
I smell a bloodbath on the horizon. If he isnt stepping down, as he said, then only option left is to crash the demonstrations.
 
It's unbelievable :
he said that he feels sorry for the dead people
that he can understand his folk and the demonstrations
he loves his folk :huh:
 
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