Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Just an update on the post that I made last week; it is the part concerning the incident with the FIR sauna blanket.
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Staying with the sauna, another curious thing happened on the Thursday morning session (Monday and Thursday being the only days I take ‘maintenance’ saunas during the week). Just after halfway through the session, my ‘body’ seemed to be telling me to get out. At first I thought it was a repeat of a minor panic attack, something to do with suffocation (past life?). So, I decided to ‘tough it out’, refuse to give in to my fear, and see the session through to its conclusion, despite my ‘body’ indicating (shouting?) ‘get out, get out’. On packing away the sauna blanket I noticed a scorch mark on the outer lower cover (the location close to where I reported an itching shin before). On investigation inside the cover, a ‘charred rod’ was visible where it had burnt through one layer, scorching the outer and ‘dust’ marking the inner (this was intact and nothing showed inside on the surface next to my skin). Anything to do with watching the five youtube videos (Evidence of Revision: The assassination of Kennedy and Oswald) the evening before, I wonder?

Needless to say, the supplier is replacing the sauna blanket, the event seemed quite abnormal to the person I spoke to.
[…]

The supplier rang today to say that they had examined the blanket and were quite perplexed by it, and confirmed that they had never seen anything like it before!
 
Guardian said:
Vulcan59 said:
Hi Guardian,

You are not alone in reporting hunger after doing the EE breathing exercises. Others have reported similar experiences. :)

Really? Well that is comforting, thax :)

I've read through the EE thread, and I didn't notice anyone else eating everything in the house, then looking at the cat's food...but I'll check again. It is a rather long thread. :)

Interesting confirmation. I too started guiltily looking at the cup boards for some thing ready made to eat. Not many 'ready made' one's left after throwing all the allergic, glutin, candida stuff. only some nuts left.
 
Hello, during the round breathing, my nose and nasal passages really feel a 'burning' as the air rushes through, as a child, I tripped and broke my bridge of my nose and over the years, through re-breaking it as it is susseptible to that, I have a build up of scar tissue.... I usually dont breath while I eat, I really dont know if this is normal or not, the burning has not stopped me, but I wonder what causes this sensation, it is distracting to say the least. Too I have suddenly noticed my body odor, I never noticed this befor, could this be detox that EE can enhance.
I havent noticed any changes regarding 'hunger', but I can say that my habits surrounding eating have improved, I appear to take greater care in taking greater care of myself, making sure I eat proper, more balance etc. Overall, I like the EE very much.
Cheers,
Harold
 
Harold said:
Hello, during the round breathing, my nose and nasal passages really feel a 'burning' as the air rushes through, as a child, I tripped and broke my bridge of my nose and over the years, through re-breaking it as it is susseptible to that, I have a build up of scar tissue.... I usually dont breath while I eat, I really dont know if this is normal or not, the burning has not stopped me, but I wonder what causes this sensation, it is distracting to say the least. Too I have suddenly noticed my body odor, I never noticed this befor, could this be detox that EE can enhance.
I havent noticed any changes regarding 'hunger', but I can say that my habits surrounding eating have improved, I appear to take greater care in taking greater care of myself, making sure I eat proper, more balance etc. Overall, I like the EE very much.
Cheers,
Harold

Hopefully the burning will decrease as you continue eating well and continue the EE (if that is possible).
If the burning gets really painful at some point, it would be perhaps important to stop and do the meditation. But if you feel you can handle it I guess it's okay. Just take care!

Perhaps the body odor was present from sweating during the EE? It could be some kind of detox indeed.

This might be interesting:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve

This means that the vagus nerve is responsible for such varied tasks as heart rate, gastrointestinal peristalsis, sweating, and quite a few muscle movements in the mouth, including speech (via the recurrent laryngeal nerve) and keeping the larynx open for breathing (via action of the posterior cricoarytenoid muscle, the only abductor of the vocal folds).
 
I did the round breathing and the POTS last night, I almost zoned out totally during the POTS, it's kinda funny because I start to hear Laura's voice and I am trying to focus on the words themselves and suddenly I hear the music at the end :D

I had many dreams and I just recalled this one so I'll share...

One was about seeing that a person next to me, a woman not unlike Princess Diana, was about to die because of an aneurysm (?) and knowing this I convinced a waitress to call an ambulance so she could get it checked at the hospital and then she was saved before it struck...
Then I was looking out the window and the surroundings looked like London a bit, I started to see comets falling from the skies, and people looking at them, I took my digital camera (again like in another dream) and started to record it (so I could put it on the Sott :D), then I started to see silver orbs in formation but I had to struggle to see them clearly sometimes, everybody was mesmerized and it was difficult to move because there were so many people...then a young teenage girl recognize me and we start to move with a few other teenagers away from the crowd.
 
Harold said:
Hello, during the round breathing, my nose and nasal passages really feel a 'burning' as the air rushes through, as a child, I tripped and broke my bridge of my nose and over the years, through re-breaking it as it is susseptible to that, I have a build up of scar tissue.... I usually dont breath while I eat, I really dont know if this is normal or not, the burning has not stopped me, but I wonder what causes this sensation, it is distracting to say the least. Too I have suddenly noticed my body odor, I never noticed this befor, could this be detox that EE can enhance.
I havent noticed any changes regarding 'hunger', but I can say that my habits surrounding eating have improved, I appear to take greater care in taking greater care of myself, making sure I eat proper, more balance etc. Overall, I like the EE very much.

Regarding the scar tissue in your nose Harold, i wonder whether it makes any difference to you if you breath in a dry environment or a more moist one? The reason i am asking is because i recently moved to a country where the atmosphere is about a hundred times drier than where i used to live. This causes me feeling pain inside my nose when i breath, and my inner nose vessels to break almost everyday. I could not do the round breathing of the program at all at first, it felt that my nose was being pierced inside by lots of tiny tiny thorns. My roommates then gave me a humidifier/vaporizer machine, which makes the air much more comfortable for me to breath now. And i can do the whole program as before. but only when the vaporizer is on.

I don't know how it is for your nose though which was broken, so i offer the above fwiw.
 
Guardian said:
Babelfish says:

turn round turn
the world falls
the earth falls
all down for earth

Thanks, Guardian :) I actually did the babelfish thing myself before posting, but knowing how horrible and nonsensical it translates, i decided to ask for a real translation, just in case ;) But it appears that the song, in all its versions around the world does not make any sense. Which brings me to:

truth seeker said:
I looked up the song and if the information is correct, it translates into: Giro Giro tondo (Turn Turn around) end of the world, falls to the ground, all down to earth
It sounds to me like the American "Ring around the Rosie" (not sure if you're familiar with it: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mHtw-L5uy4

Thank you, Truth Seeker. I was not familiar with Ring around the Rosie, but i search it and wikipedia even has a page for it: -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_a_Ring_o%27_Roses

What i found interesting is that this song has variations in many languages (greek included, but i didn't make the connection, and curious that i remembered the italian version and not the greek in my sleep! :huh: ) and though the words differ from one region to another, the children always hold hands in a circle and go round and round, and in the last phrase, they fall/sit down on the earth. Also, wikipedia has this to say about the song too:

Plague interpretation

Many have associated the poem with the Great Plague of London in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of bubonic plague in England. Interpreters of the rhyme before World War II make no mention of this;[15] by 1951, however, it seems to have become well established as an explanation for the form of the rhyme that had become standard in the United Kingdom. Peter and Iona Opie remark: "The invariable sneezing and falling down in modern English versions have given would-be origin finders the opportunity to say that the rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, posies of herbs were carried as protection, sneezing was a final fatal symptom, and 'all fall down' was exactly what happened."[16][17] The line Ashes, Ashes in alternative versions of the rhyme is claimed to refer variously to cremation of the bodies, the burning of victims' houses, or blackening of their skin, and the theory has been adapted to be applied to other versions of the rhyme, or other plagues.[18] In its various forms, the interpretation has entered into popular culture and has been used elsewhere to make oblique reference to the plague.[19] (For 'hidden meaning' in other nursery rhymes see Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary, Humpty Dumpty, Jack Be Nimble, Little Jack Horner, Cock Robin, and Meanings of nursery rhymes.)

Folklore scholars regard the theory as baseless for several reasons:

1. the late appearance of the explanation;[15]
2. the symptoms described do not fit especially well with the Great Plague;[17][20]
3. the great variety of forms makes it unlikely that the modern form is the most ancient one, and the words on which the interpretation are based are not found in many of the earliest records of the rhyme (see above);[18][21]
4. European and 19th-century versions of the rhyme suggest that this "fall" was not a literal falling down, but a curtsy or other form of bending movement that was common in other dramatic singing games.[22]

Stormy Knight said:
Hi Alana, could it be that you have finally embraced your inner child and started healing its wounds?

Well, that's what i thought at first, but now that i am reading more about the song that i chose to sing to the child in my dream to calm it down, of all the songs and lullabies that i have stored in my head, i am wondering! Why would i sing a song that talks about going round and round to fall down in the end to my inner child? :shock: Is this a message to me from my subconscious that i am "going in rounds", and if i continue doing so i will "fall"?

truth seeker said:
For a little over the last two weeks, I've had really bad neck pain on the right side as well. In an attempt to heal it, I started doing the EE everyday for a week and this was a great help. I currently think it is a traumatic issue that is working it's way from my right shoulder and continues to the right ear and then up and "out" of the top of my head. It may also be as you said regarding past life traumas. Hope this helps.

It does. I will try to do the EE program more often myself to see what happens. I actually did it today, but because i was curious to see what will happen, nothing did. I would have to make a huge poster and put it in front of me with the words "Do not anticipate" printed in large, bolded, red fonts! In my case however, i feel only warmth there, and don't feel it to move.

In your case, it sounds that something is clearing out of your body. And since it starts from your shoulder, could it be related to something you have been carrying, and you are now letting go of?
 
Alana said:
In your case, it sounds that something is clearing out of your body. And since it starts from your shoulder, could it be related to something you have been carrying, and you are now letting go of?

Yeah, this is what I think. I wish I could remember what this trauma was.
 
Hello to all, thanks to those who are on this thread, it is interesting all the different responces and experiences to the EE program.

Alana said:
Harold said:
Hello, during the round breathing, my nose and nasal passages really feel a 'burning' as the air rushes through, as a child, I tripped and broke my bridge of my nose and over the years, through re-breaking it as it is susseptible to that, I have a build up of scar tissue.... I usually dont breath while I eat, I really dont know if this is normal or not, the burning has not stopped me, but I wonder what causes this sensation, it is distracting to say the least. Too I have suddenly noticed my body odor, I never noticed this befor, could this be detox that EE can enhance.
I havent noticed any changes regarding 'hunger', but I can say that my habits surrounding eating have improved, I appear to take greater care in taking greater care of myself, making sure I eat proper, more balance etc. Overall, I like the EE very much.

Regarding the scar tissue in your nose Harold, i wonder whether it makes any difference to you if you breath in a dry environment or a more moist one? The reason i am asking is because i recently moved to a country where the atmosphere is about a hundred times drier than where i used to live. This causes me feeling pain inside my nose when i breath, and my inner nose vessels to break almost everyday. I could not do the round breathing of the program at all at first, it felt that my nose was being pierced inside by lots of tiny tiny thorns. My roommates then gave me a humidifier/vaporizer machine, which makes the air much more comfortable for me to breath now. And i can do the whole program as before. but only when the vaporizer is on.

I don't know how it is for your nose though which was broken, so i offer the above fwiw.

Yes well, the air does have to do with nose bleeds etc. in the past I have had them when it is very dry out, I have a tendendancy to have dry skin in the winter too, all in all I can do the EE no problem, I was more or less sharing to just share, as I am curious if this is happening to others while they are doing the round breathing, I think it is just me...from the feedback Im reading here.

Oxajil said:
Harold said:
Too I have suddenly noticed my body odor, I never noticed this befor, could this be detox that EE can enhance.

Perhaps the body odor was present from sweating during the EE? It could be some kind of detox indeed.

This might be interesting:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve

This means that the vagus nerve is responsible for such varied tasks as heart rate, gastrointestinal peristalsis, sweating, and quite a few muscle movements in the mouth, including speech (via the recurrent laryngeal nerve) and keeping the larynx open for breathing (via action of the posterior cricoarytenoid muscle, the only abductor of the vocal folds).

This is what I was thinking, thanks for the info.
Cheers,
Harold
 
Psyche said:
Hi Guardian,

FWIW, the following questionnaire is very useful in assessing adrenal fatigue and other imbalances:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13258.msg97143#msg97143

Thanks bunches Psyche :flowers:
 
I just have a quick question (and apologies if it has already been mentioned). During the meditation part while listening to POTS a few days ago a woman's head with long hair suddenly appeared. Even though I had my eyes closed the person was as clear as if someone actually was there. Any thoughts what that might be?
 
rylek said:
I just have a quick question (and apologies if it has already been mentioned). During the meditation part while listening to POTS a few days ago a woman's head with long hair suddenly appeared. Even though I had my eyes closed the person was as clear as if someone actually was there. Any thoughts what that might be?

Other people had reported similar experiences. Laura wrote something about it here:

Laura said:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12837.msg99743#msg99743

Generally, when certain channels/circuits begin to clear and open, but are not yet tuned, all kinds of stuff gets picked up. It's like turning on a radio receiver or a TV that is "between stations" or receiving interference. You can see faces, hear sounds, experience all kinds of interdimensional stuff. The key is to not get distracted by that stuff. Keep your eyes and focus on the light/knowledge.

There's a lot of great material about this sort of thing in the work of Ibn al-Arabi. A good source for this is William Chittick's "The Sufi Path of Knowledge." Just ignore all the references to "the prophet" and Islam and penetrate to the cosmology and discussions of knowledge and unveiling and so on.

If anyone is familiar with this material, you can find some appropriate passages to quote about "stations" etc.
 
Oxajil said:
Perhaps the body odor was present from sweating during the EE? It could be some kind of detox indeed.

This might be interesting:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve

This means that the vagus nerve is responsible for such varied tasks as heart rate, gastrointestinal peristalsis, sweating, and quite a few muscle movements in the mouth, including speech (via the recurrent laryngeal nerve) and keeping the larynx open for breathing (via action of the posterior cricoarytenoid muscle, the only abductor of the vocal folds).

I usually sweat more into bed after an EE breathing, and regularly by taking melatonin. I agree with Psyche that a dirty colon contributes greatly to the smelling also during the day, and when you're detoxing it really get stinky at some point. To me, I've noticed that the smell varies also depending which food you've taken during the week, and people ingesting different kind of foods smell different... as that one Chinese man that said Westerners usually smell like sugar canes to him ;-))) because of milk, coffe and sweeteners in the morning probably.

I've lost a bunch of pages on this thread that I'm going to review as soon as possible. Last time I've posted any feedback about my breathing exercices I was dealing with a strange pressure located around the spleen area. Just found an article that may be interesting here:

The Spleen’s Role in Immune Function

by Peter Wisniewski

As I was driving around making sales calls today, I was amazed to hear radio talk show host, Ira Flatow, of of National Public Radio’s Science Friday speaking with Dr. Mauricio Rosas-Ballina, MD about some fascinating research about “how the immune system and brain communicate to control disease.”

His team at “The Feinstein Institute for Medical Research have identified a new anatomical path through which the brain and the spleen communicate. The spleen, once thought to be an unnecessary bit of tissue, is now regarded as an organ where important information from the nervous reaches the immune system,” according to the North Shore-Long Island Jewish Health System’s website. (1) The spleen in conventional medical science is now thought to be a reservoir for red blood cells and aids in cleaning of redundant ones.

What really is interesting is how this connection was made. The vagus nerve is the only nerve that starts in the brainstem, it supplies motor parasympathetic fibers to all organs except the adrenal glands from the neck down to the transverse colon. (2) As Dr. Rosas-Ballina followed the vagus nerve to the spleen, he found that it connected to the splenic nerve. (3) “Rosas-Ballina, MD, working with colleagues in the laboratory of Kevin J. Tracey, MD, figured out that macrophages in the spleen were making tumor necrosis factor, a powerful inflammation-producing molecule.” (1) His teams results indicate that the vagus nerve “communicates with the splenic nerve to suppress tumor necrosis factor production by macrophages in the spleen.” (1)

What this research illustrates is the inherit connection between the spleen and immune system function. What comes next for his team is developing drugs that will modulate immune response.

While this may seem like ground breaking science, Dr. Royal Lee created Spleen PMG in 1955, Dessicated Spleen in 1981, and Immuplex in 1984 which contains both the Spleen PMG and Dessicated Spleen. (4) It would seem that the health of the immune system is directly related to the health of the spleen. Luckily, three products have already been developed with no known side effects to support the spleen and immune system function.

The vascular tone of the spleen muscle wall

“The enlargement of spleen, stomach and heart because of “B” deficiency is explainable on the grounds of muscular dystrophy, known to be a specific consequence of “B” deficiency. It is that muscular weakness of the stomach walls that causes the lack of appetite in the “B” – deficiency child. The spleen has recently been demonstrated to be (before senile atrophy) a muscular organ acting as a reservoir for blood, so that a loss of muscle tone in that organ can act to cause its enlargement as well as a loss of vascular and tissue tone that is dependent upon such an “elastic” reservoir, not to speak of the loss of vascular tone due to the direct action of the deficiency on the muscular layer of the vessel walls.” (7)

Ionized calcium and nerve function

Let’s now look at nerve function support of ionized calcium in the spleen. Dr. Royal Lee said, “A study of hormones brings out similar facts. There are hormonic principles in the sex glands, spleen and suprarenal cortex, that depress the serum calcium; parathyroid hormone raises serum calcium, as also does adrenalin.” (5)

He later goes on to say, “The exception to Biost, as a source of calcium, is where alkaline calcium to form calcium bicarbonate, the ionized blood calcium, is desired. This is in the cases of acute infection (and symptoms as described above) where the calcium is to aid Vitamin C in controlling the infective agent, in the stimulation of phagocytosis. Lime water or the proprietary Kalak water are other forms of alkaline Calcium.” (9)

According to Dr. Henry Harrower M.D. “(Studies cited to show influence of spleen action simulating activity of parathyroid hormone). Removal of the spleen from dogs was followed by hypocalcemia. When a desiccated spleen extract was fed to these splenectomized dogs, the low calcium index was promptly raised to normal, although identical treatment to parathyroidectomized dogs had no such effect on the calcium figure.” (6)

JAMA said, “From the studies here discussed it appears that the spleen is likewise concerned in calcium metabolism. Furthermore, it appears that the results might even be interpreted to mean that, in the absence of the parathyroid glands, the spleen can take over their function in preventing tetany. These intricate relationships between organ systems illustrate the ends to which the organism as a whole will go in order to preserve the vital equilibrium; furthermore they indicate, in some measure, the inherent difficulties in outlining effective therapy.” (8)

In conclusion, Dr. Mauricio Rosas-Ballina, MD has shown definitive evidence that the nervous system is directly related to the spleen via the vagus nerve. We have great tools to support muscle tone of the spleen such as “B” complex. We also have tools like the Protomorphogens to control natural tissue antibodies. We have dessicated spleen to increase serum calcium. We have Calcium Lactate which converts to calcium bicarbonate in one chemical step which the body uses for nerve function of the spleen. These tools can support the spleen which in turn may support immune system function.

1) 7/21/08 Scientists Figure Out How the Immune System and Brain Communicate to Control Disease http://www.northshorelij.com/template.cfm?xyzpdqabc=0&id=204&action=detail&ref=1071

2) 7/26/08 Vagus Nerve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve

3) 7/25/08 Identification of Pathway that Brain and Immune System Speak http://feinsteininstitute.typepad.com/feinsteinweblog/2008/07/identification.html#comments

4) 2007 Standard Process Catalog

5) 10/15/34 Vitamin News Vol. 2 No. 9 Page 37 Dr. Royal Lee D.D.S. More on the metabolism of Calcium

6) Practical Endocrinology, Henry R. Harrower, M.D., pages 181 to 183

7) 3/15/1935 Vitamin News Vol. 3 No. 3 Page 47 Dr. Royal Lee D.D.S. Vitamin B Notes to Date

8) Quoting from the journal of the American Medical Association (Sept. 27, 1930, xcv, P. 937):

9) Therapeutic Food Manual pg 56 Dr. Royal Lee D.D.S.

Listen to the radio interview here
 
Thanks for sharing that, dantem. That is interesting.

Wow, that vagus nerve is really something!!!
 
Hi everyone,

When I do the pipe breathing lying down instead of sitting or standing it is quite a different experience for me. First what is interesting is that sometimes my stomach with get extremely tingly all over, I have not read anyone describe that physical symptom. It does not happen ever when I sit and do the pipe breathing, only when I am laying down. Also something I have noticed: When I am holding the air for 3 counts and then breathing it out for 9 counts it is a lot more "awkward" to do while laying down. When I am sitting up, the air for the most part naturally rests in my stomach with some in my chest and I am able to fluidly breath it out. When laying down however as soon as a stop breathing in air, my chest will often inflate hugely and my stomach deflate unless I keep the air "held" in my stomach. I countered this problem by continue to breath in on the pause for 3 counts even though my air capacity is full. If a lot of air does get into my chest I have to empty my stomach and then my chest and I actually need a half second pause to be able to achieve this.


I think someone said that laying down and doing the pipe breathing is fine... and I think so too because it is included in the meditation in the begging. they are two different experiences for me though. In general I do it all laying down because I'm lazy haha, but... it appears more natural to do it sitting for me. I have developed methods of coping with the air problem I described above but it's kind of hard to explain.
 
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