Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[henry]

logos5x5, you might try easing up on the Beatha a bit. Doing it every day can dig up stuff we have locked in us too quickly and we can become overwhelmed. You might try it a couple of times a week for a bit and see how you feel. Or even go for a bit without the Beatha at all. We would have to be supermen/women to be able to remain in a self-observing state all the time.

What I am saying is that you might be pushing yourself too hard and putting unrealistic expectations on yourself to think that you'll be able to continue keeping a handle on the anger all the time. If you back off the Beatha, it'll give yourself time to settle down. There is no point in trying to rush through the process. We need to have faith in the process. Our bodies and our higher selves knows what we need. Doing the practice regularly, without overdoing it, it what we need. We don't need to storm the walls.

 

[Luis Miguel]

logos5x5, you might try easing up on the Beatha a bit. Doing it every day can dig up stuff we have locked in us too quickly and we can become overwhelmed. You might try it a couple of times a week for a bit and see how you feel. Or even go for a bit without the Beatha at all. We would have to be supermen/women to be able to remain in a self-observing state all the time.

What I am saying is that you might be pushing yourself too hard and putting unrealistic expectations on yourself to think that you'll be able to continue keeping a handle on the anger all the time. If you back off the Beatha, it'll give yourself time to settle down. There is no point in trying to rush through the process. We need to have faith in the process. Our bodies and our higher selves knows what we need. Doing the practice regularly, without overdoing it, it what we need. We don't need to storm the walls.

True, thanks Galahad, I did the Beatha part just three days per week for two months or so but I didn't saw results "remarkable" results, before that I made them daily too, with a strong impact in the emotional area, but that time was sadness, and yes is true that I'm trying to haste the results :S, I'll do Beatha just a couple of days per week from now on and let the things flow more naturally, thanks again.

 

[Juba]

This has been my experience too. I can't decide if I'm zoning or sleeping. If I am sleeping, I somehow always manage to wake up from time to time and then for the last time right as Laura is doing the reverse count and saying "Divine Cosmic Mind bless you all". Yesterday I did it earlier in the day but decided to get in the sauna while I ba ha'd and did the POTS. Same scenario. Next time I'll do it early and not in the blanket. :) I'd hate to think that I'm zoning when I'm really just snoozing.

It probably doesn't really matter. If in your higher self's wisdom you need sleep, then sleep. You're still absorbing the words and the intent behind them. ;)

Herondancer

That's comforting, I start to feel a bit guilty, because skipped some rounds of breathing especially with 3 stage breathing that relax me totally and same thing during POS.

This seems to happen to me too, consistently during round breathing. I'm pretty sure it's not zoning because I seem to be dreaming; or half-dreaming anyway. It's never anything I'm able to remember. Today I started to fade during round breathing so I just skipped it and skipped ahead to the POTS thinking "if I'm just going to sleep, I might as well do it to POTS". Maybe, with Herondancer's advice, it would be better to just keep with it. Next time :)

Nothing changed, still half a sleep, half lucid and this funny sensation between awaken and allready sleeping, but that must be fabulous because insomnia is gone. All these weird dreams are even more intense and I wonder if EE is allready working on my previous incarnations - lessons (and yeah, dreams are all in multi - color, most of the times (when not doing EE) dreams are more in grayish bluish colors)??!!

 

[Lucius]

Hello

new update.

I have more dreams , day by day .
- started dream work about love , people , angry
- started seeing light when sleep , FLASH of light .

- I'm more creative , perceptive , calmer .

I have more energy .

My weight still is not moving, Going to full Detox program.

 

[alphonse]

My experiences of the E-E Breathing programme this week are similar to previous weeks – wet eyes and micro zoning out during PotS

My eyes still water like crazy, every time. I don't mind though - as a contact lens wearer it feels like my eyes get a good "flush" twice a week.

I seem to only "zone"out during PotS when i do the full programme, When I do PotS on it's own I stay alert during the whole prayer
If I do zone out, while listening to the cd - I come straight back as soon as Laura starts talking

 

[SeekinTruth]

My experiences of the E-E Breathing programme this week are similar to previous weeks – wet eyes and micro zoning out during PotS

My eyes still water like crazy, every time. I don't mind though - as a contact lens wearer it feels like my eyes get a good "flush" twice a week.

I seem to only "zone"out during PotS when i do the full programme, When I do PotS on it's own I stay alert during the whole prayer
If I do zone out, while listening to the cd - I come straight back as soon as Laura starts talking

During the first couple of months of doing EE, I used to have moderate watery eyes just about every time. Then it steadily decrease and stopped. Now I get watery eyes once in a while.

The same thing happened with zoning out. It was pretty prominent in the beginning, decreased over time, both in frequency and duration, and now it happens once in a while for short periods. I've wondered what it all means.

 

[dugdeep]

Hmmm... I seem to be getting minor obstacles in the way of my EE practice that are forcing me to skip it recently. On Thursday I had a lot of work to do and ended up not getting a chance to do the breathing (although, in retrospect I feel like I could have tried harder here). Now my roommate, who is sick, just told me she's staying home from work tomorrow. I always do the EE during the day since I work from home and this is a time when I have privacy. I'm hoping my roomie will leave at some point tomorrow so I can sneak in a session...

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

During the first couple of months of doing EE, I used to have moderate watery eyes just about every time. Then it steadily decrease and stopped. Now I get watery eyes once in a while. The same thing happened with zoning out. It was pretty prominent in the beginning, decreased over time, both in frequency and duration, and now it happens once in a while for short periods. I've wondered what it all means.

In an earlier post, many pages ago in this thread, I had ventured an explanation (I think it was to Trevizent): when i started practicing kinesiology, I would get very watery eyes, and my teacher told me that it was normal, that it was a sign of integration of the work, of getting rid of toxins, etc. As I became more experienced, I got them less and less (because by doing work on others, I was working on myself). Now I get them once in a while when I work on stuff I'm not used to. So maybe it's the same in this case? You may be integrating the work, healing, getting rid of psychological and physical toxins, etc.

FWIW

 

[Gertrudes]

During the first couple of months of doing EE, I used to have moderate watery eyes just about every time. Then it steadily decrease and stopped. Now I get watery eyes once in a while. The same thing happened with zoning out. It was pretty prominent in the beginning, decreased over time, both in frequency and duration, and now it happens once in a while for short periods. I've wondered what it all means.

In an earlier post, many pages ago in this thread, I had ventured an explanation (I think it was to Trevizent): when i started practicing kinesiology, I would get very watery eyes, and my teacher told me that it was normal, that it was a sign of integration of the work, of getting rid of toxins, etc. As I became more experienced, I got them less and less (because by doing work on others, I was working on myself). Now I get them once in a while when I work on stuff I'm not used to. So maybe it's the same in this case? You may be integrating the work, healing, getting rid of psychological and physical toxins, etc.

FWIW

Mrs Tigersoap, I wonder if what you've mentioned could also explain excess mucus and catarrh.
I seem to be getting it more and more during the pipe breathing. I don't usually have it, it only shows up during the program and it seems to have slightly increased for the last 2 months.

 

[SeekinTruth]

During the first couple of months of doing EE, I used to have moderate watery eyes just about every time. Then it steadily decrease and stopped. Now I get watery eyes once in a while. The same thing happened with zoning out. It was pretty prominent in the beginning, decreased over time, both in frequency and duration, and now it happens once in a while for short periods. I've wondered what it all means.

In an earlier post, many pages ago in this thread, I had ventured an explanation (I think it was to Trevizent): when i started practicing kinesiology, I would get very watery eyes, and my teacher told me that it was normal, that it was a sign of integration of the work, of getting rid of toxins, etc. As I became more experienced, I got them less and less (because by doing work on others, I was working on myself). Now I get them once in a while when I work on stuff I'm not used to. So maybe it's the same in this case? You may be integrating the work, healing, getting rid of psychological and physical toxins, etc.

FWIW

Mrs Tigersoap, I wonder if what you've mentioned could also explain excess mucus and catarrh.
I seem to be getting it more and more during the pipe breathing. I don't usually have it, it only shows up during the program and it seems to have slightly increased for the last 2 months.

That's a pretty fascinating explanation, Mrs. Tigersoap. It certainly can be a possible similar thing going on with EE.

Gertrudes, I've had some mucus/catarrh during EE on and off, too. I also think, in my case it was more often in the first few months, but it still happens occasionally, but I've had it on and off even before the EE program came out (and it's not only when I'm doing it) so in your case it may also be tied to Mrs. Tigersoap's hypothesis.

 

[manitoban]

The same thing happened with zoning out. It was pretty prominent in the beginning, decreased over time, both in frequency and duration, and now it happens once in a while for short periods. I've wondered what it all means.

Same thing here. At first I zoned out every time, and now it only happens occasionally. I also found much more emotional release at the beginning, and now it's only occasional, although when it does happen now, it's a doozy! (Buckets of tears)

It seems to me that the whole process just kind of unfolds at the speed it's supposed to - it doesn't seem to follow an orderly pattern. I wonder if it happens in this way because as go along we are clearing deeper and deeper stored emotions and one can only clear so much at one time, thus things like zoning/emotional release happen at intervals?

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

Mrs Tigersoap, I wonder if what you've mentioned could also explain excess mucus and catarrh.

I would say yes. Excessive yawning (often with watery eyes), loud belly noises, limb twitching are other signs that the body is integrating the work. So, even if mucus and catarrh are cumbersome, it's great to experience that sort of cleansing.

That's a pretty fascinating explanation, Mrs. Tigersoap. It certainly can be a possible similar thing going on with EE.

Yes, I've read many things in this thread that I had experienced with clients (but unfortunately could not explain to them at the time). EE never ceases to amaze me...

 

[SeekinTruth]

The same thing happened with zoning out. It was pretty prominent in the beginning, decreased over time, both in frequency and duration, and now it happens once in a while for short periods. I've wondered what it all means.

Same thing here. At first I zoned out every time, and now it only happens occasionally. I also found much more emotional release at the beginning, and now it's only occasional, although when it does happen now, it's a doozy! (Buckets of tears)

It seems to me that the whole process just kind of unfolds at the speed it's supposed to - it doesn't seem to follow an orderly pattern. I wonder if it happens in this way because as go along we are clearing deeper and deeper stored emotions and one can only clear so much at one time, thus things like zoning/emotional release happen at intervals?

Yeah, I guess it could be that -- I'm pretty sure things happen as needed when we continue doing EE regularly. I also had emotional "episodes" more than releases earlier and now it's less often.

What I mean is that I've never had a full blown emotional release so far. I had very noticeable elevated mood the first 3 months or so; the things that used to effect my mood decreased in influence a lot. At the same time I felt even more irritable and annoyed at certain people's negative manifestations, especially my mother's. But I was able to observe pretty calmly what's going on as I felt the emotions, and was able not to express them.

I'd gone through about 10 years of emotional upheavals -- expressed a lot of anger especially -- so I'm wondering if that has something to do with my relatively gentle experience with EE in terms of emotional processing. I've only cried a couple times very briefly since starting EE, the sort of thing where there is a bit of a build up of undefined sadness and then a short crying spell. And a couple of other times I thought that was going to happen and it never really got started and then passed. Maybe anticipation stopped it, I don't know.

The most noticeable thing has been the relaxed alertness that's the longest lasting. I still have an elevated mood more often, interrupted by some low moods here and there, but it doesn't feel as intense as at the beginning. Perhaps it became the norm? The other things is I'm much less compulsive in behavior and thoughts. Thought loops have noticeably reduced. The only thing that is about the same -- and really annoying -- is songs / music going on in my head a lot of times when I'm not concentrating on anything in particular. It's especially annoying when a song I don't like gets stuck in my head. So that hasn't changed much yet. But I'm hoping.


Added: Just saw your post as I went to post Mrs. T.

EE never ceases to amaze many of us who are sticking with it for many months, it seems.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Another really important and long lasting effect of EE I want mention is time anxiety, that feeling of not having enough time to do what you need. I've had this most of my life and since starting EE it stopped on a dime. I just can't understand how I'm able to do more in less time and, in fact not think about time at all, especially when I'm doing things I enjoy, like reading and participating here, etc. It's a great relief not to get into a near panic over the lack of time. Just wanted to mention one more of the best things I've experienced from doing EE.

 

[Tigersoap]

Another really important and long lasting effect of EE I want mention is time anxiety, that feeling of not having enough time to do what you need. I've had this most of my life and since starting EE it stopped on a dime.

I have found the same thing as well, although I can still think that I may not have the time, the stress isn't there, or at least is considerably dimmed down. That's such a relief not feeling like a running rabbit with a giant watch in his pocket.

Another thing I've noticed, my eyes aren't as tired or I don't need to strain them to read subtitles (for example) as I used to before the EE.
I have myopia so it has always been quite difficult for me to see from afar, did anyone had good results with palming for myopia as said in the sott article here coupled with the EE ?
I'll try it out to see if it helps.