Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[seek10]

Not a lot to report, this week’s experiences of the E-E Breathing programme are similar to previous weeks – wet eyes and micro zoning out during PotS.

I stopped reporting it out of Guilt & Shame for lack of progress in the form of 'experience'. My work ( I no longer had the work from tomorrow, but needs to look aggressively for one) conditions , the thought loops of survival, sickening politics of work conditions, narcissistic fears that comes out for the need to look for the Job are creating overwhelming narcissism, indulgence to temptations of sleep, food, cigarette, day dreams creating overwhelming narcissism and opens me for the attacks in sleep. One good thing is when I do EE , they gets cleaned up with tears, but I again forget to do it always. Many times I do 30 min.'s POTS , that helps. More or less I am very unhappy with progress, whether it is normal or not. 2 steps back ward , 2 step forward.

I often zone out while thinking or reading some thing, before I even start POTS before bed, thus skipping POTS. This is too bad and makes me more open to attacks and my predator is becoming too smart to spoil me. These attacks wipes out any progress , thus starting over again. My dreams are more vivid and they always mechanical survival stuff, In fact that scares hell out of me. Obviously constant watchfulness and WILL has to help. I fall too often while doing some pending WORK, thus resetting things.

TOO many things to do, but the time is there, but too much attack is coming my way, I am not handling properly ending up in thought loops, emotional thinking and waste of EFFORT with out even realizing.

 

[Infiniteness]

Hi everyone,

Ive been doing the daily night time "Pray of the Soul" meditation and one of the problems I have is that when I am doing the breathing my mouth starts to feel up with a lot of saliva. It distracts me because I have to keep swallowing my saliva. I did some research and came up with hyper salivation, but this only happens when I am meditating. It is said that many underlying problems can cause it like toxic build up, illnesses, or even medications. I'm also thinking it may have to do with something mentally. I think it might go away by it self or as I start being healthier so I'm going to be patient with this one, and see what happens.

With my progress I didn't do the EE program I lied :(, somethings got in the way last week so I decided not to do it. I am showing signs of releasing past emotions, whenever something sensitive or emotional pops up on the radio or in my life, I start to cry to tear up. I am going to buy the EE program lessons, and will keep at it.

Re saliva; try having a bucket or large cup ready and just spit it out, and see if it helps. The cottonwood trees are fluffing out where I am, and its been tough to do anything but snort and sneeze. ;D Battling this and caregiving for my injured Hubby has me off schedule with EE too. The important thing is not to give up or beat yourself up over it...as long as its on your mind you'll get back in the groove.

One of the longest lasting and most welcome of the changes from EE in my mind is a freeing from weird compulsions/addictions to things that I once used to get through a very stressful time in my childhood/adolescence: comic books, fan fictions, and even actors. The desire and odd obsessiveness melted away one day and its not come back. :D

I have had dreams in which vampires and other monsters and even comic characters try to bring my mind back to them.....which is generally the sign to do what I have to do for an EE session, be it decongestants if necessary. This freeing up has improved my day to day mood and helped a lot in working through programs and spotting others.

They key with EE is to not give up if you miss for whatever reason, and its a practice I think that is accumulative.

Hi Gimpy,

I will try that, right now I just swallow the saliva maybe not the best thing to do :/. Allergies are dreadful, hopefully as we get healthier we can take them out. Glad to see that you have made good progress with eliminating those programs, shows how effective the program is . Yes that's true do not over do anything.

 

[LQB]

Not a lot to report, this week’s experiences of the E-E Breathing programme are similar to previous weeks – wet eyes and micro zoning out during PotS.

I stopped reporting it out of Guilt & Shame for lack of progress in the form of 'experience'. My work ( I no longer had the work from tomorrow, but needs to look aggressively for one) conditions , the thought loops of survival, sickening politics of work conditions, narcissistic fears that comes out for the need to look for the Job are creating overwhelming narcissism, indulgence to temptations of sleep, food, cigarette, day dreams creating overwhelming narcissism and opens me for the attacks in sleep. One good thing is when I do EE , they gets cleaned up with tears, but I again forget to do it always. Many times I do 30 min.'s POTS , that helps. More or less I am very unhappy with progress, whether it is normal or not. 2 steps back ward , 2 step forward.

I often zone out while thinking or reading some thing, before I even start POTS before bed, thus skipping POTS. This is too bad and makes me more open to attacks and my predator is becoming too smart to spoil me. These attacks wipes out any progress , thus starting over again. My dreams are more vivid and they always mechanical survival stuff, In fact that scares hell out of me. Obviously constant watchfulness and WILL has to help. I fall too often while doing some pending WORK, thus resetting things.

TOO many things to do, but the time is there, but too much attack is coming my way, I am not handling properly ending up in thought loops, emotional thinking and waste of EFFORT with out even realizing.

Seek10,

To me, your words alone speak to progress - the things you must see going forward. Seeing these things is becoming aware of them. In other words, no progress would be equivalent to not seeing any of this (if that makes any sense). I have experienced some of the same that you describe, but I view it as part of the progress. It is part of the Work - and like you say: "constant watchfulness and WILL ...". I know what you mean by "resetting things" and it does seem that way, but expectations have a way of giving this perception (in my experience).

my 2 cents FWIW

 

[seek10]

Actually this recent question about "daily bread" reminds me that I have a question myself.

The phrase is "saviour of the soul". Now that we have had this prayer of the soul for nearly a year now, how are people thinking of this?

'soul smashing' perhaps

some Eastern text call GOD as "soul of the souls". that is not a bad definition in the context "our soul is 5th density and GOD (Union with every thing) is 7th density." . In this way we are addressing 7th density. At least , that's how I am interpreting it.

 

[mkrnhr]

Just a thought, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to create a separate thread about the meaning of the prayer of the soul and how we could interpret (and misinterpret) it?

 

[Breton]

Just a thought, maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to create a separate thread about the meaning of the prayer of the soul and how we could interpret (and misinterpret) it?

This could be done.

I recall that there were a lot of discussions in the original "Session 20 June 2009" where people had initial reactions to key words that were both positive and negative because of their biases and history with the words. Laura answered a lot of questions at that time and made suggestions. If I remember correctly, we gave advice to each other to just go with it, and if necessary, examine our reactions to the words as that in itself is useful for working on our machine and understanding it.

We could be assured that the words were chosen pretty carefully and it was an aid to focused meditation (maybe my way to phrase it is not the best). At that time it was new, but now with nearly 1 year of its use, many of us have gotten over our initial reactions and have had time to think on the phrases in many different ways.

 

[Laura]

Thank you all for you kind help! I'm taking magnesium 600mg and omega3 1000mg a day, stopped BAHA after Anart suggested. Being reckless i hold anger inside and carelessly let my programs cause me seethe over vain thoughts. Will check and partake in the threads and plan to quickly get a tryptophan derivative, because one night of experiencing dying and not sleeping was fun enough.

Forge, I want to encourage you to be more gentle with yourself. Just taking supplements and doing the EE program alone isn't going to fix some situations, as is apparent in your case and a few others. It can take up to a year or longer to get your system balanced via careful diet and this seems to me to be where you need to start. Diet (and some supplementation) and regular Pipe breathing and the prayer/meditation at night before sleeping.

Steady and easy as she goes is the watchword!

 

[Lucius]

EE sometimes I just know that EE program come to my life when I need It.

more self observation, diet , ee , gym , meditation , yoga , sports.
Observing myself , thinking , programs, emotions , calm-down.

day by day I learn more about myself.Recognize what I'm Doing .


at this time I have new decision : "crystal myself" talk minimum , cut off BAD "Friends", cut off EGO.

Greeting

Lucas.

 

[manitoban]

Seek10,

To me, your words alone speak to progress - the things you must see going forward. Seeing these things is becoming aware of them. In other words, no progress would be equivalent to not seeing any of this (if that makes any sense). I have experienced some of the same that you describe, but I view it as part of the progress. It is part of the Work - and like you say: "constant watchfulness and WILL ...". I know what you mean by "resetting things" and it does seem that way, but expectations have a way of giving this perception (in my experience).

my 2 cents FWIW

Seek10, I agree with LQB, in order to clear ourselves of our programs, we first have to become fully aware of them, to SEE them, before we can change anything. And when we do see them, we naturally become unhappy with ourselves and our lack of progress, as you describe, even though it is simply part of the process.

I'm glad you decided to post about your experiences - sharing this can help not only you but others too. We all have our moments of going backwards, but with the help of the group we can pick ourselves up and keep on going!

 

[Infiniteness]

This whole time that I have been doing the night time Prayer of the Soul meditation, I have been breathing through my nose even when exhaling . I think I need to re watch the instructional video, its been a while.

 

[seek10]

Seek10,

To me, your words alone speak to progress - the things you must see going forward. Seeing these things is becoming aware of them. In other words, no progress would be equivalent to not seeing any of this (if that makes any sense). I have experienced some of the same that you describe, but I view it as part of the progress. It is part of the Work - and like you say: "constant watchfulness and WILL ...". I know what you mean by "resetting things" and it does seem that way, but expectations have a way of giving this perception (in my experience).

my 2 cents FWIW

Seek10, I agree with LQB, in order to clear ourselves of our programs, we first have to become fully aware of them, to SEE them, before we can change anything. And when we do see them, we naturally become unhappy with ourselves and our lack of progress, as you describe, even though it is simply part of the process.

I'm glad you decided to post about your experiences - sharing this can help not only you but others too. We all have our moments of going backwards, but with the help of the group we can pick ourselves up and keep on going!

Well, I hope this is not self calming , thought nothing can be done being pessimistic or encouraging the negative emotions with out of control 'Should DO's ' list. I am still hopeful that I can make it. I see some confidence in that direction after my panick attack thread. so, Not all negative, just little bit overwhelming with 'Should have done better' programs.

 

[Ollie]

Not a lot to report, this week’s experiences of the E-E Breathing programme are similar to previous weeks – wet eyes and micro zoning out during PotS.

I stopped reporting it out of Guilt & Shame for lack of progress in the form of 'experience'. My work ( I no longer had the work from tomorrow, but needs to look aggressively for one) conditions , the thought loops of survival, sickening politics of work conditions, narcissistic fears that comes out for the need to look for the Job are creating overwhelming narcissism, indulgence to temptations of sleep, food, cigarette, day dreams creating overwhelming narcissism and opens me for the attacks in sleep. One good thing is when I do EE , they gets cleaned up with tears, but I again forget to do it always. Many times I do 30 min.'s POTS , that helps. More or less I am very unhappy with progress, whether it is normal or not. 2 steps back ward , 2 step forward.

I often zone out while thinking or reading some thing, before I even start POTS before bed, thus skipping POTS. This is too bad and makes me more open to attacks and my predator is becoming too smart to spoil me. These attacks wipes out any progress , thus starting over again. My dreams are more vivid and they always mechanical survival stuff, In fact that scares hell out of me. Obviously constant watchfulness and WILL has to help. I fall too often while doing some pending WORK, thus resetting things.

TOO many things to do, but the time is there, but too much attack is coming my way, I am not handling properly ending up in thought loops, emotional thinking and waste of EFFORT with out even realizing.

Seek10,

To me, your words alone speak to progress - the things you must see going forward. Seeing these things is becoming aware of them. In other words, no progress would be equivalent to not seeing any of this (if that makes any sense). I have experienced some of the same that you describe, but I view it as part of the progress. It is part of the Work - and like you say: "constant watchfulness and WILL ...". I know what you mean by "resetting things" and it does seem that way, but expectations have a way of giving this perception (in my experience).

my 2 cents FWIW

One of the key things for me is awareness of what is happening outside of the E-E breathing process, ('Seeing these things is becoming aware of them.') as well as within it. Similar experience to previous weeks within the programme is evidence of continuing progress for me. Also, it is as important to note that outside of the programme, seeing similar experience - as opposed to new 'seeings' - is also progress. As stated '... no progress would be equivalent to not seeing any of this ... 'It is part of the Work - and like you say: "constant watchfulness and WILL ...".'

 

[Ollie]

This week’s experiences of the E-E Breathing programme are similar to previous weeks – wet eyes and micro zoning out during PotS.

Otherwise, there have been a couple of sharp reminders – Sciatica – my body is telling me that work needs doing! :D

Sciatica – Being hypocritical. Fear of money and of the future.

SCIATICA

EMOTIONAL BLOCK
Sciatica may be experienced if you are insecure about your future or have an unconscious fear of lack of material abundance. I emphasize unconscious because, in my observation, sciatica is especially common in those who are materially and financially comfortable, but would have a difficult time if that were lost.
Sciatica, therefore, is located in the body at the level of having. You are probably not consciously aware of your fear of lack because you don’t think of yourself as attached to material things. Acknowledging your attachment would make you feel guilty because you believe it is spiritual to love earthly possessions. Your guilt, however, impedes your progress and prevents you from taking a leap, plunging into life head-on and taking risks. Your life has become too dull, unlike the pain in your leg.
Sciatica also indicates that you are carrying a grudge, repressed aggression, or refusing to submit to someone or an idea in relation to the material aspect of your life.

MENTAL BLOCK
If you are experiencing sciatica, your body is giving you a signal that your way of thinking is a pain and is causing you distress; it’s really getting on your nerves. Pain always indicates guilt; therefore what are you punishing yourself for? What do you feel guilty about? The degree of intensity of pain reflects the degree of punishment you feel you deserve. Acknowledge and accept that you are attached to material things and do it without guilt or self-depreciation. Be honest with yourself and admit your loss of losing these things. If risk taking is beyond your limitations, acknowledge that too, and accept it as your current state of affairs. Make a personal decision to move forward when you feel ready to do so.
It is critical to stop believing it’s ignoble to love earthly possessions. At some point, you’ll be confident enough in your ability to create all that you need when you need it, that you’ll no longer be afraid of losing your things and will be able to allow yourself to love them while remaining detached from them.

Your life has become too dull, that sounds about right just now, thanks body for reminding me! :D I know I need to move forward, on what though – that’s a work in progress, that I guess needs speeding up right now (I need to complete that dream interview for the three dreams the other night that related to this!).

 

[Infiniteness]

Hi all,

I did the EE program in full yesterday morning. At first I had some trouble keeping up with the "3-stage breathing", but after awhile it got easier and the whole thing for the most part flowed smoothly. A strange thing happened when I was doing the " BA HA" portion, my whole body felt like it was vibrating very rapidly and part of my right arms muscles kept twitching when I inhaled sharply. After the the program I felt pretty good for the rest of the day.

Last night I had very tense dreams. One of the dreams were based on my childhood experiences of me getting bullied a lot through my childhood. It was strange the same people that bullied me were in my dream . So maybe this dream is telling me that I need to resolve or release the passed hurts done by these people.

 

[Turgon]

I'm not sure if this has anything to do with HAARP, because there have been a few times where I felt I needed to take a break from doing EE since starting it last year, but lately, I've been hard-pressed to actually sit down and do the meditations. I've been coming up with a million and one reasons in my head why I can put it off until later, or do it tomorrow (of course tomorrow never comes).

So Finally, a few days ago I really wanted to dedicate myself to lying down before bed and do the POTS without the audio, and could not, for the life of me, fully concentrate on the prayer all the way through. It must have taken me 10-12 times before I was actually able to say the entire prayer in it's entirety. Every single time, roughly half-way through I would just completely lose focus where I was in the prayer and would start all over again from the beginning. It was nuts! Because in my head, I'm thinking "okay, this time I'm going to make it all the way through" but would completely lose it.

It felt as if I was losing touch, or not grooving with the prayer. Yesterday though, I was spending some time outside at a park, and started saying the POTS, and 'felt' as if I was reconnecting with the meaning behind it. Things started to become much more vivid, as in everything that was happening around me, even the spectrum of colours of the grass, sky and houses. Almost like a computer screen where you turn up the brightness of the monitor.

I think it may somehow be connected with feelings of being completely out of touch with myself lately, and everything seeming so bland around me, like there's no life to anything, if that makes sense. I guess a sense of disconnect. I'd be waking up in the mornings like I'm still in a dream, almost weirded out by my own bedroom and thoughts just racing through my head (I wonder if because I'm eating healthier these days, that when I eat something I know I shouldn't my sensitivies are more intense and throwing my systems out of whack)

But I'm not going to let this get me down, as I'm 100% sure that I'm running some programs that I can't see. Instinctually I feel something amiss and was contemplating about the last few weeks and what I can do about it. On top of that, I'm getting back into EE and not pushing it aside like I have been lately.