Elon Musk: Tech Genius! Green Warrior! Biz King! Good Oligarch?

Alejo said:
That behavior by Musk is valuable and it is evidenced by the anger of those who ACTUALLY control the world.
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Can you give me some examples? I am not aware he is under attack of anyone? I see he is suported by all. Financialy and in all other means. Maybe he was only attacked when Biden didn't wanted to say TESLA? Just to mention, in case if you didn't realise that He is welocomed by all world leaders.

What it means to be attacked and disabled to do right things? TO be welcomed by all world leaders, and use their public budgets for your private projects to build battery facotires etc in their countries? Hm wish I am attacked like that ... you seasm to be more focused on telling me what to htink but I can't see it ... you rather let me know that attacks?
 
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Alejo said:
Thing is, your personal issues with Musk ....
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Okay this sentence I quoted is just kind of the title of my post here that is in general my expression of this kind of bully comunication towards me, that again was main focus, diverting the thread topic.

What do you know about my relation to Musk?

My relation to Elon and his family is more complex and personal and professional than you know and I am interested in things I AM RELATED TO OBJECTIVELY not just through media etc like most of people and you ... and one of them is ELON ... so thx for understanding

But this experience made me think again why I am here, what I do here???

Do you know how many conflicts I had in my life and experiences that I am not here to get some more, not to preach to anyone either, but simply to exchange knowledge and insights I have to see things more clearly for myself. It happend I have been involved at some htings more than others, and I want to share that, as it is valuable for people to know from the sources of control. Not just fro what some guy on youtube have to say. If I am wrong from anyone POV, it is okay, I can be wrong. I just share my insights and conclusions based on that insights. Do I force anyhting on anyone?

I am member since I htink 2014-2015 ... and in my case, I know I don't belong here like most of you do, and there is after a while always some popup needs to some how induce some kind of argue and through arguing to maybe discern truth for me as I am what ever you label me I am etc ... ? But I am not here to went, or be shocked, or whatever treatments are offered for a person in need to get out of subjective delusions, I am okay with my subjective delusion and I don't know why so desperatly any one will want to break them for me?? Let me be STS selfish learner, as that is what 100% or eartlings are, and maybe one day I figure out how to become STO kandidate, as yes it is my goal from learning from here ... and other sources … to become beter person towards others, but I am not yeat ready to be that on every cost, can that be respected?

It is kind of irritating to be on the bullets all the time ... I just want to learn more, not to be part of any movement, group, fight for freedom etc … I have my own movement and you can warn humanity about me, it is okay ... I will still keep on doing it.

So, please If there is an outer need of putting me in a forum swamp cage to show me objective reality, as my focus is spinning on all places, ok, then make one and I’ll come. As I don’t think I need it, that is why I am not making it just to please htose who think that way, and not to be baned from forum again. But yes yes this my answer shows that I do need that … blahblahblha .. blah.

Thx for bringing it up again. There is always a BAN option to ban me again.

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Well, I don't think Elon is a hero, super or otherwise, and he's done and said many things with which I disagree. But I also don't think you're on the right track thinking his plan was to shut down Twitter from the start. Much less that he's doing it as a way to cover up the crimes of pedos and others.

For one thing, he's pointed out how much of a haven Twitter was for pedophiles before his taking over. If he was trying to hush that stuff up, then he simply wouldn't say anything about it.

For another, the emails between the alphabet agencies and Twitter people revealed Twitter was more or less an extension of the government before Musk took over. There was no need to shut Twitter down because it was pretty well controlled at the time and served the purposes of the PTB just fine. Musk has upset that apple cart and revealed more of who and what are really in charge.

None of this is what a Zuckerberg-esque company man would do with that same agenda.
 
solarmind said:
My relation to Elon and his family is more complex and personal and professional than you know and I am interested in things I AM RELATED TO OBJECTIVELY not just through media etc like most of people and you ... and one of them is ELON ... so thx for understanding
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So, you know him personally? and base your claims on that personal acquaintance?

solarmind said:
It is kind of irritating to be on the bullets all the time ... I just want to learn more, not to be part of any movement, group, fight for freedom etc … I have my own movement and you can warn humanity about me, it is okay ... I will still keep on doing it.
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Not really, I haven't the need for any of it. But you should know that in a public forum, people will respond to what you post, much like you expect to be able to post whatever, there will be responses to whatever you post. This is how a forum works, not just this one, any forum.

And sometimes people will question you, no bullets. I am not trying to convince you of anything, you on the other hand seem very invested in convincing others of your vision of the situation, and when people show a tiny bit of resistance, then you overreact.

I will say it again, Elon is no deity of mine, but he's not the devil either, it's not black and white all the time. And that is what is being questioned, I don't think anyone here is invested in him being a saint, but you seem very invested in him being a devil. And dismiss any questioning simply with "well, you just see him as a hero, that's why you're wrong"
 
solarmind said:
6. I developed the TESLA WELLNESS platform, and among my work with clients on development of objective thinking, one of the most effective platforms is "Professionally guided arguing". [snip] ... Do you want to try?
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I certainly wouldn't recommend it based on your conduct and examples in this thread. If you are working with clients on the development of objective thinking, you should at least be able to display some ability in that area and your posts in this thread do not. It's jaw dropping to think that you teach 'professionally guided arguing' when your posts here are pouty, reactive, self-centred, name dropping and full of assumptions - not a hint of professionalism at all. And you call it a 'wellness' platform? Seriously?
 

'Here's What's Really Happening': Elon Musk Live Streams Chaos at US Southern Border

In search of the truth, the world's richest man has encouraged millions of his followers to become citizen journalists to uncover and share the truth about what is happening not just at the border, but across the country, while the corporate media and political elites in Washington, DC , are "distracting, pretending and dividing" Americans.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1707572888272863482

Musk held a livestream on X at the Eagle Pass border crossing Thursday evening to show "what's really going on." We reported a few days ago that Musk was planning to go to the border.
"The border crisis is worse every day! New York City is buckling under the load already".
https://t.co/m78rUDzpQl
- Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 29, 2023
https://twitter.com/x/status/1707572888272863482

I hope that people around the world will participate in citizen journalism, so that we know what is really happening and get real-time coverage on the ground.
https://t.co/m78rUDzpQl
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 29, 2023


This is how our "Hero" of this thread Elon, :whistle:, wants to do what can be done to unmask the media without losing out on his own personal or financial gain, I believe he would like to defeat the traditional corporate press by urging the use of his platform to turn the common citizen into a journalist, under the benefits of First Amendment protection thus providing some sort of guarantee and security and competing with platforms like Telgram or tik-t.
What interests us in my view is that it is inciting to some extent the balance to make the truth known, whether that ist ulterior motive or not.
 
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Les USA, la Chine, l’UE et une vingtaine d’autres pays signent une déclaration sur l’intelligence artificielle, “l’une des plus grandes menaces pour l’humanité” selon Elon Musk | FranceSoir

TECH - Pour Elon Musk, patron du réseau social X (anciennement Twitter), l’intelligence artificielle (IA) est sans doute “l’une des plus grandes menaces” pour l’humanité. Présent à Londres pour assister au premier sommet international dédié à cette technologie (1er et 2 novembre), le...
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Les USA, la Chine, l’UE et une vingtaine d’autres pays signent une déclaration sur l’intelligence artificielle, “l’une des plus grandes menaces pour l’humanité” selon Elon Musk
Présent à Londres pour assister au premier sommet international dédié à cette technologie, le milliardaire dirigeant de Tesla et SpaceX, a estimé “qu’il n’est pas certain que nous puissions réellement contrôler une telle chose” mais qu’il est possible de “la guider dans une direction qui soit bénéfique pour l’humanité”.
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The USA, China, the EU and around twenty other countries sign a declaration on artificial intelligence, “one of the greatest threats to humanity” according to Elon MuskPresent in London to attend the first international summit dedicated to this technology, the billionaire director of Tesla and SpaceX, estimated “that it is not certain that we can really control such a thing” but that it is possible to “ guide it in a direction that is beneficial for humanity”.
 
I came across this clip of his interview with Jordan Peterson that I thought was rather interesting.

See how he describes the situation in the geographical location that the Twitter HQ building is located, and he seems to be drawing a relationship between what twitter was and that social condition. But also, he goes on further to clarify his position, and his intention, the mind virus that twitter was spreading and a few other things.

Worth the watch.

 
Alejo said:
I came across this clip of his interview with Jordan Peterson that I thought was rather interesting.

See how he describes the situation in the geographical location that the Twitter HQ building is located, and he seems to be drawing a relationship between what twitter was and that social condition. But also, he goes on further to clarify his position, and his intention, the mind virus that twitter was spreading and a few other things.

Worth the watch.

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I think you meant to say Jow Rogan not Jordan Peterson?
 
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