Eric Pepin - Higher Balance Institute - Discussion

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I think we have to define what exactly is "esoteric knowledge". Or maybe better, define what is not "esoteric knowledge". I mean, do most of the people on this forum actually have esoteric knowledge themselves (me included)? I doubt it, as it can only be gained by continued and strenuous inner work.

But look at sott. The amount of info and knowledge that is on sott is not known by the majority of the people on Earth, but I don't think that makes it esoteric; semantically, maybe, but not really. Everyone has a right to that info.

If the monsters who spend their lives trying to destroy Laura were forced to give statements saying it was all lies, and then sott became a lot more well known... well, I can't even imagine what the effect would be. :shock:
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This is an important point. Due to the nature of the work (4th way), it will always have a small following. But there’s so much other information on the Cassiopaea forum and on SOTT that people need to see. The psychopathology topic alone needs as large an audience as possible.

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The key statement you made is this: "Critical thinking is something that must be learned." You can't do that for anyone, Erna.

And if the trap upon entry is too tricky to solve, how then, did I get here? How did you get here?

Hard work. There's no substitute for it. Without it what we learn won't stick with us in the face of the Control System.
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You make a valid point Gimpy. Yet, people over here don’t have that dependency on the internet that people in the West have. For most here, it’s an afterthought. It’s starting to change though. As of yet, we don’t have that ‘disease’ (I mean this in a good way) that people in the West have where they are always “plugged in” to everything. We don’t document our entire lifes online. I was amazed when I was in San Francisco and saw that practically everyone on the street is “plugged in” to an iPod. If you wanna talk to someone, you must tap them on the shoulder and then they’re annoyed cause you’re interrupting their little trance. People here, including myself in the beginning, doesn’t even know that something like cyberstalking exists. And it’s them who will step into the trap squarly. There are large parts of the planet where people aren't as 'streetwise' on the net as Westeners, and it's they who must be given a fighting chance.

Heck, maybe I'm thinking too deeply about this :rolleyes:

I only know a few other people for whom the internet is an integral part of their lifes, and it’s only because they lived in London for years and fell into the habit.

I don’t know, maybe I’m assuming everyone’s like me – very curious, feel that something isn’t right, seeking, which they are maybe not. Maybe their cups are full. Maybe it is as you say, the true seeker will find it.

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Erna:
You make a valid point Gimpy. Yet, people over here don’t have that dependency on the internet that people in the West have. For most here, it’s an afterthought. It’s starting to change though. As of yet, we don’t have that ‘disease’ (I mean this in a good way) that people in the West have where they are always “plugged in” to everything. We don’t document our entire lifes online. I was amazed when I was in San Francisco and saw that practically everyone on the street is “plugged in” to an iPod. If you wanna talk to someone, you must tap them on the shoulder and then they’re annoyed cause you’re interrupting their little trance. People here, including myself in the beginning, doesn’t even know that something like cyberstalking exists. And it’s them who will step into the trap squarly. There are large parts of the planet where people aren't as 'streetwise' on the net as Westeners, and it's they who must be given a fighting chance.


The internet is nice, but I don't see it lasting forever, especially not here in the US. Too easily it can be cut off from the rest of the world, and restricted.... It's just not true that street smarts in the world can't be translated or useful in the online 'world'. It requires patience, good boundaries, and common sense, just as it would if you were traveling cross country or abroad. :) Approached with this mindset, it's not that intimidating.

That's why its important to read read read, and apply what is learned.....once its part of you, you get to keep it, internet or no.

I really don't like the over dependence in the West on the internet, this being plugged in all the time is just too easy....I've seen people have mini-meltdowns if their cellphones don't work, or their internet connection goes down....their lives STOP.

Personally, I think people who can manage just fine without the 'net will be better off when things get hairy. They at least will have a clue
how to manage without earphones in their heads.

Oops,...wandered a bit off topic.

Even without the internet at home, people can learn a lot just by reading the recommended books. There is always a way for the determined seeker, osit. :)

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A defamatory statement is a factual assertion that subjects another to "hatred, contempt or ridicule" or tends "to diminish the esteem, respect, goodwill or confidence in which [the other] is held or to excite adverse, derogatory or unpleasant feelings or opinions against [the other]."

Well Vinnie certainly seems to have done this many times over.

[The court determines whether a statement is a factual assertion or opinion by examining]

(1) "the statement in its broad context, which includes the general tenor of the entire work, the subject of the statements, the setting, and the format of the work";

(2) "the specific context and content of the statements, analyzing the extent of figurative or hyperbolic language used and the reasonable expectations of the audience in that particular situation"; and

(3) "whether the statement itself is sufficiently factual to be susceptible of being proved true or false."

1) 'The general tenor of the entire work' on Vinnie's part appears to be unrelenting defamation, cyber-stalking. It is going on 8 or 9 years now that he has attacked Laura, Ark, their children, their works.

2) 'the reasonable expectations of the audience in that particular situation' - Vinnie seems to once again qualify here. The GLP thread is the perfect example. Early on in the GLP thread I recall the issue of Laura's trial when she was attacked as a teenager by a sexual predator. Vinnie blows smoke all over with all kinds of factual bellowing and presents that anyone can check for themselves by just sending in $65 to the court and getting the trial transcripts, (just like Manny Otto spouted in regards to Pepin). One of the readers of the thread simply reads Vinnie's words and says basically "oh gee vinnie, I didn't realize that, she got away with it". Now this is just based on Vinnie's "assertions of fact." Not a single person ever checked up on this to see that he was lying. And so the defamation continues, he gets away with it. The kicker is not one of these people has a brain to put the pieces together. How come in 8 years Vinnie himself has never spent the $65 and gotten the trial transcripts? He makes assertions of what is in them, yet in 8 years with all the trash and hundreds of pages on the Internet not once has he published a single page of these transcripts. Does anyone with two neurons believe that he wouldn't splash that all over the Internet by cutting out every single little excerpt out of context and adding to the libel and defamation if he had a copy of it? And in 8 years with the hundreds of hours he has spent attacking Laura he found no way to afford $65 to get these transcripts himself. It is the consummate act of the psychopath.


One other thing to mention in relation to Vincent Bridges and this is in regards to Eric Pepin. Both of them seem to be cut from the same cloth. From reading some of Bridges works (what a pile of psychobabble nonsense) and actually seeing how he operates lying over and over and over, it seems they come from the same psychological pool. The only thing that seems to separate them to me is that one's addiction seems to be sexual predation and the other's is purely mental and psychological predation.

I was kind of taken aback reading this thread back several pages in the portion about Pepin's Navigator Book review. I recently came across several writings by Vincent Bridges from the late 80s and early 90's and the resemblance to Pepin's Navigator garbage is remarkable. They not only use similar psychological techniques, but even some of the very same terms in espousing there nonsense,

For your enjoyment and comparison (mirth):



Vincent Bridges excerpts:

In my trance, I watched the long slow climb upward from the primal ooze, and I cheered for each lonely and forlorn outcropping of the pattern. I waded the shallow seas with the huge, almost reptiles of the saurian era; I swarmed with the hot-blood vermin as the world changed and the giants lay all around, bony islands in the fast drying mud flats; I chattered through the tops of enormous tropical hardwoods, singing a thread of clever awareness.

Through out the Universe, a level of organization and complexity results in a sudden distillation of energies that produces a negentropic "life" field that begins to self-organize and replicate, evolving toward the perfect expression of self-awareness necessary to resonate with the totality of the Spirit/Mind/Light hologram.

In this work, we do not leave our bodies behind. NOW, transcendence must be complete, moving through all five bodies. No-Form is a way of calming and comforting the Aufu, allowing this powerful physical "generator" to link in phase with the higher energies. The mechanism of this phase linkage with the higher energies is the vibration of sacred sounds, which sets up an entrainment affect within the cerebro-spinal fluid, producing the lightshow effects of kundalini. This sonic entrainment effect is most easily produced from a standing posture, which allows the entire body to resonate with the sound.

Other than these facts, there isn't a lot to be said about No-Form. It must be experienced, and allowed to become your personal connection with the Nothingness that is also everythingness. No-Form is that fertile void where all forms, all expressions evolve. As we move into ritual space, No-Form becomes our bridge from the potential to the manifest, from rest to movement.

Once, in a state of ecstasy, I saw just what that means. It began with the three sided, four-figured dance of the quarks. Their movements, in relation to themselves and their attractive boundaries, created designs, patterns, within which a panorama of particle creation occurred. A billion worlds spun off each ripple of each pattern. Some few trillions resembled the proton, neutron, electron, etc.


We live in an information rich sea of light, in which the entire experience of the universe is stores and fret over out possibility of personal extinction, about death, personal, as a species, as a planet. whatever. Is there really a spirit that animates the matter that collects and organizes the structure of the "soul" toward ever higher levels of "awareness", oneness,. the substance of we-feeling, etc.?

The voices whispered, yes. Listen to us. We come in the name of this vast organizing principle. Follow the resonance of what we are saying and you will always know that we have spoken truly.

Let me put it in very simple terms. The "keys" or code image I was given are these:


One late fall evening in 1987, I sat in the rocker by the fire at the farm, holding Deva, the E-T cat, in my lap and told someone–it could have been Susan (know it wasn't Lynda)–that if I ever starting teaching the serious stuff like I had started and talked about at the Harmonic Convergence in August, I would call it the Fifth Way. I reasoned if Mr. G constituted the fourth way, then it would only follow that the next step would be the Fifth Way. But the Fifth Way would be magical in nature, using symbols and rituals to key into... and then of course I spaced out, trying to think of a better word for what I wanted other than psycho/physics. The name stuck in my mind. The joke seemed appropriate--sort of a backhanded tribute, even in a compensation phantasy.

Things came and went after that. Things like some "channeled" material, a few pages of technical notes on the pyramid and the secret to working with earth energies, specific designs for a well we were instructed to build and other things, like a brief overview of galactic history. Things like that.

Deva disappeared in April, in the midst of the biggest UFO flap yet. The cat came back in May, pregnant. In June the well went up precisely on time for the solstice which became, for me a kaleidoscope of geometry and higher math, like some of those eldritch formulae hinted at in Lovecraft, except that I understood it perfectly. The strange signs and portents in the skies increased. Psyche and symbol on a day to day level.


But the Fifth Way would be magical in nature, using symbols and rituals to key into...

NO FORM
No-Form is a state of being. It is also a way of standing, sitting or moving.

Simply put, it is just being OK with being nothing, really being Void, but expectant.

In this work, we do not leave our bodies behind. NOW, transcendence must be complete, moving through all five bodies. No-Form is a way of calming and comforting the Aufu, allowing this powerful physical "generator" to link in phase with the higher energies. The mechanism of this phase linkage with the higher energies is the vibration of sacred sounds, which sets up an entrainment affect within the cerebro-spinal fluid, producing the lightshow effects of kundalini. This sonic entrainment effect is most easily produced from a standing posture, which allows the entire body to resonate with the sound.

Other than these facts, there isn't a lot to be said about No-Form. It must be experienced, and allowed to become your personal connection with the Nothingness that is also everythingness. No-Form is that fertile void where all forms, all expressions evolve. As we move into ritual space, No-Form becomes our bridge from the potential to the manifest, from rest to movement.

You might say that No-Form is Being in the act of Becoming.


The ability to open a direct heterodyne cascade channel between dimensions –– a door or gate to the astral –– and then use that resulting flow of energy to create the resonant structure of a metaxic monad. That is a point that is everywhere or nowhere, all at once. This is the basic skill on which all magickal, mystical, or religious ritual is based. There are, of course, many ways to accomplish this.

The pentgram is the most powerful of all magickal emblems. It is a symbolic or astral distillation of the pure divine light.

You must create a pristine container to accomodate the descend of Spirit into the space you’ve chosen for your ritual. Banishing is the first step in making your physical and psychic space sacred. It’s like cleaning up before the arrival of a highly esteemed guest.

Many problems with lower astral entities people encounter during or after ritual can be avoided by proper banishing. There’s really no excuse for poor ritual hygiene. Banishing may be accomplished before the ritual begins while the space is still being prepared. Or it can be a part of the group ceremony. The form is very simple. Begin in the East. You will be drawing an Earthbanishing Pentagram.


This pattern of working can be used in any style or type of ritual to enhance the energy and support a clear flow of archetypal presence. Remember, the clearer the Godforms, the more meaningful the ritual. Start with Ausar, Osiris, and work your way up the Tree. This supplies a magnificent overview of the entire range of archetypes. And, once the basic Egyptian forms are internalized, other Godforms can be used to deepen the experience.



EXERCISES & MEDITATIONS:
Part One The Aufu
A) Body Warm-Ups
1) Make faces, pull the face and eyes into every ridiculous position that can be imagined. Continue for at least five minutes.
2) Chatter and make strange noises. 3 minutes.
3) Shoulder pull (pulling the shoulder up to the ears, then dropping them completely) 2 minutes.
4) Take deep breaths with the mouth open. Hold stomach in and inflate only your chest. Hold, then relax, and pause before next breath. Do 10 complete cycles.
5) Turn head from side to side very slowly, going as far as you can each turn. 1 minute.
6) Lie down and lift legs and arms in the air. Stretch as much as possible, then release. 10 times.
7) Deep slow breath, 10-15. Start in belly and work up, feeling all the muscles as you breathe.
8) Get up slowly and stand in No-Form. Count to three and then let the top part of your body drop forward. Work up to exhaling on fall, inhaling on lift.
9) Breathe for a few minutes, sensing the feeling in your body, then begin to “Om.”



OPEN SECRETS FROM DR. STRANGE
Using the Egyptian Godforms
As the Neophyte magician quickly realizes, the assumption of Godforms, usually Egyptian, is one of the major keys to performing successful magick. Unfortunately, there is little of real value written on the subject. Most texts suggest that the image of the God be superimposed over the body image until one sees oneself as the God. Sounds simple, but actually it's very hard to do, and even harder to maintain, without a few simple guidelines to go by.



The "big guys," the light beings, had told me: prepare to teach this stuff. I had just spent eight years getting away from it and at the same time, delving very deeply into its essence. The challenge intrigues me. I guess the big guys knew that.

I never made any bones about the fact that all of this was very experimental. I had no doubt--still don't--that I knew what I'm doing. I just doubted that the first group was clear as to what the deal was really about.

Let me be perfectly clear. I am not perfect. I just know and have experienced more.
 
Wow, what garbage! You're right about them being cut from the same cloth. Pepin could put that right on his own site and no one would ever notice the difference. Maybe they both have the same "ghost writer."
 
I realize this is off topic and my sincere apologies but I couldn't help but notice the apparent irony that this discussion was started by a forum member named wilecoyote and that Eric Pepin seems to share many wileycoyote's character traits:

From Wikipedia:

Wile E. Coyote often obtains complex and ludicrous devices from a mail-order company, the fictitious Acme Corporation, which he hopes will help him catch the Road Runner. The devices invariably fail in improbable and spectacular ways. Whether this is result of operator error or faulty merchandise is debatable. The coyote usually ends up burnt to a crisp, squashed flat, or at the bottom of a canyon (some cartoons show him suffering a combination of these fates). Occasionally Acme products do work quite well (e.g. the Dehydrated Boulders, Bat-Man Outfit, Rocket Sled, Jet Powered Roller Skates or Earthquake Pills). In this case their success often works against the coyote - for example, the Dehydrated Boulder, upon hydration, becomes so large that it crushes him, or the Earthquake Pills bottle label fine-print states that the pills aren’t effective on Road-Runners. Other times he uses devices that are implausible as he once bought a super outfit thinking he could fly with it (obviously he doesn't).

How the coyote acquires these Acme products without any money is not explained until the 2003 movie Looney Tunes: Back in Action, in which he is shown to be an employee of Acme. In a Tiny Toon Adventures episode, Wile E. makes mention of his protege Calamity Coyote possessing an unlimited Acme credit card account, which might serve as another possible explanation. Wile E. being a "beta tester" for Acme has been another suggested explanation. Wile E. also uses war equipment such as cannon, rocket launchers, grenades, and bayonets which are "generic", not Acme products. In a Cartoon Network commercial promoting Looney Tunes, they ask the Coyote why does he insist on purchasing products from the Acme Corporation when all previous contraptions have backfired on him, to which the Coyote responds with a wooden sign (right after another item blows up in his face): "Good line of Credit".

The company name was likely chosen for its irony (acme means the highest point, as of achievement or development). The common expansion A (or American) Company that Makes (or Making) Everything is a backronym. The origin of the name might also be related to the Acme company that built a fine line of animation stands and optical printers; however, the most likely explanation is the Sears house brand called Acme that appeared in their ubiquitous early 1900s mail-order catalogues.
 
Mountain Crown said:
This has been an excellent discussion regarding what can be “seen.”

What about “unseen” forces?

Laura, the lawsuit in which you so admirably prevailed was initiated by Pepin and HBI. From where exactly is the source of the idea to take the initiative in litigation against Bridges and his gang?

What kind of opportunity would this provide, if any, for hindering your own progress?

I'm not sure I get your drift here. Are you insinuating that the "idea" to sue Vinnie could be coming from some "dark source?" And if she did indeed go through with it, she would be "hindering" her own progress? :huh:

I must be missing something... Even IF she did decide to take recourse, how can standing up for the Truth be viewed as hindering one's progress?
 
Shar said:
I'm not sure I get your drift here. Are you insinuating that the "idea" to sue Vinnie could be coming from some "dark source?"
I was asking Laura if it could be, not really suggesting it was so.

And if she did indeed go through with it, she would be "hindering" her own progress?
It would have been more precise to ask what kind of opportunity would litigation provide STS forces to hinder her. Again, it's a question for Laura's own discernment, which I profoundly respect.

As for what can be "seen", I feel Laura to be justified in suing Bridges and his cohorts, and personally would love to see them get what they deserve.

But the "unseen" implies covert forces often working with the truth.
how can standing up for the Truth be viewed as hindering one's progress?
Just as vindication on the internet could be a possible result of suing for monetary compensation, could it be used for other results against Laura personally? http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=128&lsel=A
 
Mountain Crown said:
But the "unseen" implies covert forces often working with the truth.
Just as vindication on the internet could be a possible result of suing for monetary compensation, could it be used for other results against Laura personally? http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=128&lsel=A

I went to the link above to the Cass glossery, and the word is "attack" so I guess that's what you're referring to. Yeah, I'd think just just about anything Laura does or writes has been/can be used against her as an attack.
 
Shar said:
I'd think just just about anything Laura does or writes has been/can be used against her as an attack.

This is my concern as well. If nothing else, it's draining energy away from other things.

From what I've experienced and read, psychopaths don't seem to have the capacity to learn from their mistakes or show remorse. They seem locked into behaviors that they have no ability to change.

Even if any of those guys formally apologize publicly, I doubt if the attacks would end. They'd just find some other way or person to attack.

I'm thinking of the case of "Stamp Man" in the Martha Stout book who kept robbing post offices just for the pleasure of observing all the fuss over the mess he created: the police and postal workers running around gave him so much pleasure, that each time "Stamp Man" was released, he robbed another post office again just to experience that pleasure again.

As the books say, the best way to deal with psychopaths is to have nothing to do with them.
 
Couldn't agree more with Webglider's comments. Use the money to further the QFG goals.

There are more than a few forum members who stumbled through the New Age/Conspiracy Theory labyrinth and discovered SOTT and the QFG. More than a few actually did some research and came upon Vincent Bridges, Storm Bear, Colleen Johnson, and Weidner's poorly-written, oft times whacky, undocumented, "warnings", filled with obvious lies and scurrilous personal attacks against Laura, Ark, and their work.

Sheesh, that pathetic gang of clowns haven't yet come up with a shred of evidence or spent a few measly bucks to produce solid legal documents that would give proof to their false accusations like the House raffle. All they can do is LIE...or repeat lies started by Vincent Bridges, creating a series of fake realities wherein they are victims of Laura, all the while telling gullible persons (who are too lazy to fact check) that they are in the know because they are powerful, learned, and esoterically well-connected. In Vinnie's case, it was to guys like Michael Aquino. (Aquino had the sense to deny such a "connection" to such a dark side loser...as did the rest of Vinnie's alleged contacts he name-dropped to impress Laura when first they met. Laura has the emails from these individuals to prove Vinnie's lies, along with a host of other garbage he tried to con her and Ark with.)

As others have commented, Vinnie actually helps to separate the (potential) wheat from the chaff. However, should Vincent Bridges stupidly ramp up an attack that threatens to shut down Laura's current work as Pepin attempted, my advice would be go get him...and drag his culpable buddies in for some highly entertaining interrogatories. I would gladly donate more energy (money) for such a suit were that the case. Even in this uncertain economy, there are ways to fund things that matter. Don't think I'm alone in that thinking.
 
NormaRegula said:
As others have commented, Vinnie actually helps to separate the (potential) wheat from the chaff. However, should Vincent Bridges stupidly ramp up an attack that threatens to shut down Laura's current work as Pepin attempted, my advice would be go get him...and drag his culpable buddies in for some highly entertaining interrogatories. I would gladly donate more energy (money) for such a suit were that the case. Even in this uncertain economy, there are ways to fund things that matter. Don't think I'm alone in that thinking.

I don't think you're alone either. :clap: Look at how many people were willing to donate for the legal fund! Drag all their culpable asses selves in and let the fun begin. :evil:
 
NormaRegula said:
Sheesh, that pathetic gang of clowns haven't yet come up with a shred of evidence or spent a few measly bucks to produce solid legal documents that would give proof to their false accusations like the House raffle. All they can do is LIE...or repeat lies started by Vincent Bridges, creating a series of fake realities wherein they are victims of Laura, all the while telling gullible persons (who are too lazy to fact check) that they are in the know because they are powerful, learned, and esoterically well-connected.

Exactly - which is exactly why they are legally culpable.
 
NormaRegula said:
Sheesh, that pathetic gang of clowns haven't yet come up with a shred of evidence or spent a few measly bucks to produce solid legal documents that would give proof to their false accusations....


Well, they're not about to spend money trying to produce "solid legal documents" to prove their accusations, when they know perfectly well that such "documents" do not exist. They figure that if they just keep blowing massive billows of smoke, there will always be suckers willing to believe there's an actual fire....
 
As a working hypothesis, would it be fair to superimpose some of those concepts presented by Gurdjieff, Mouravieff, and the C’s onto the question of whether or not any action “should” be taken against the type of person Vincent Bridges represents? It seems Vincent Bridges represents a conduit of ‘A’ influences. As a natural function of the General Law he consciously or unconsciously acts as one of its multitude of vectors helping to carry out its function and keep people in their place. Since this is a freewill universe the offering of such resistance may be freely opposed by those capable of some amount of critical thinking. Thus, it serves as a useful filter allowing those with the sufficient ability to discern truth from lies to pass through while keeping those less capable in their place.

In this light, Vincent Bridges dutifully serves others by offering a force of friction that may be utilized to finely tune one’s discernment skills. On the other hand, the world is filled to the brim with ‘A’ vectors. The “filtering away” of one ‘A’ vector by some opposing action may possibly increase the signal of the multitude of ‘B’ vectors. However, recognition of ‘B’ vectors seems to require some minimum skill of discernment. The question then arises what is the level of this minimum skill? And how may this level allow one to ascertain whether or not an action is worth taking? At the present moment I see two possibilities:

(1) If the minimum skill is greater than or equal to Vincent’s “friction” then the “filtering away” of this vector cannot improve the signal, it will net a zero result (a nullification).

(2) If there exists a significant probability that this minimum skill is less than the friction offered by Vincent, then the filtering away of this vector will free those minds (with minimum skill) from his illusory walls of disinformation.

If (1) is assumed to be true then the investment of energy to “filter away” Vincent’s presence may yield zero profitable result as it will not lead to an increase in the recognition of ‘B’ vectors, but merely a movement of internal ‘A’ vectors being influenced/directed via some other external ‘A’ vector (Agents wear many masks!). In essence, it would be akin to Don Quixote’s “charging of the windmills.”

If (2) has a significant probability of being true then the “Track of Access” will have a chance to be discovered more often by those currently walking on that deceitful Bridge of Vincent. Thus, an investment of energy in this case would most likely be profitable.

It is my opinion that (1) is probably more likely true than (2). Since both Mouravieff and Gurdjiefff seem to imply that ‘A’ influences increasingly appear similar and/or parallel to ‘B’ influences as one climbs the staircase, the level of discernment difficulty would also increase. Thus, an increase in the difficulty of discernment skills minimizes the likelihood of (2) being true while concomitantly increasing the likelihood of a low return if there is taken an action to invest in it.

In the Cassiopaea glossary there is the term “Impartiality.” The following is its definition/description and think its action might apply in this situation:

Impartiality as defined by the Cassiopaea Glossary said:
In the 4th Way discipline, the ideal state of perception is described as 'Impartiality'. Often mistaken for apathy or indifference, the actual connotation implies neutrality to all externalities. Knowledge of self is said to lead to a stable mind frame where the context of every situation, scenario, event, interaction, is acknowledged and ones actions follow appropriately as to conform to one's aims and the requirements of the situation.
One who embodies or strives to acquire this state of awareness is said to be stoic, unperturbed by the whims of emotions and the changes of fortune inseparable of the human condition.
What is ultimately sought is the ability to objectively experience the Universe through all centers, using thought, emotion and senses as a tool. This means that one is not swept away by automatically triggered reactions, be they physical, emotional or cognitive but that one uses all these capabilities for their "intended purpose," approaching a multifaceted and objective apprehension of the situation.
The idea to oppose the actions of people like Vincent in a “tossing of the first stone” way seems to contradict my perception of what Gurdjieff, Mouravieff, and the C’s are attempting to convey. In my heart, I think that maybe it might be best to maintain a state of impartiality unless one is cornered (as in the case of Eric Pepin). Is not attacking another via suing only a subtle means of manipulative control? I realize SOTT has nothing but the best interest of the world at heart, but I can’t seem to find a plausible motive to take action that doesn’t have a hint of revenge at its core. Perhaps someone here has found one that I can not currently see?

I just wanted to offer my perspective in the light of the teachings of Mouravieff, Gurdjieff, and the C’s (how I currently understand them anyway). Please feel free to hold up the mirror so I can work on correcting my reading instrument!

[edit: Well, to be fair the majority of my assessment is in the light of Mouravieff's teachings.]
 
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