Explosion in Southern Indianapolis...possible meteor fragment??

[Gimpy]

Caught sight of this, but have not read it all the way through yet:

http://www.indystar.com/article/20121128/NEWS/121128041/?sf7535014=1

7:14 PM, Nov 28, 2012 |

Authorities said Wednesday that they have served at least 15 search warrants in a widening criminal probe of a Southeastside explosion that killed two people.

The investigation includes almost daily interviews of potential witnesses who might have seen suspicious activity in the Richmond Hill subdivision Nov. 10 or might have knowledge about the explosion. More than 20 investigators are working the blast full time and still gathering evidence from the crime scene, even as the first of 33 damaged homes are being razed this week.

But so far, there have been no arrests.

“These types of investigations are exhaustive and they take time,” said Indianapolis Public Safety Director Troy Riggs. “There is a lot of potential evidence to collect and a lot of people to interview. We have had more than 20 people out there everyday.”

A law enforcement source with direct knowledge of the investigation said more than 15 sealed search warrants have been executed but would not divulge what evidence has been collected.

Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry would not comment on the warrants.

“The investigation is proceeding and we are making progress,” Curry said.

Also Wednesday, the attorney for the couple who lived in the house that exploded confirmed that a white van taken into custody by police belonged to Mark Leonard.

Leonard is the boyfriend of Monseratte Shirley and the pair were visiting a casino the night of the explosion.

“They came and took the van a couple days after the explosion and he hasn’t seen it since,” attorney Randall Cable said. “I assume police still have it.”

Leonard is the caretaker at a shuttered southwestside hotel and convention center who will “oversee” its demolition, Cable said. The van was parked there when police seized it.

Riggs said Monserrate’s home at 8349 Fieldfare Way and three others have been cordoned off and are considered a crime scene.

“There is a still a lot of (investigative) work being done there,” he said. “Some of it is just going back to look at something a second time.”

Officials said last week that someone was responsible for intentionally causing the blast.

“We not only have to determine what exactly occurred but who is responsible,” Riggs said.

Investigators have said the house was full of gas and they are exploring whether someone rigged a pipe to release gas and ignited it remotely.

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Note: bolded bits mine
Note 2: Is that last remark a Freudian Slip, or am I just being paranoid?

 

[Ca.]

I looked at a few the photos, trying to make scene, of what has taken place, and have to admit, that form what i've seen just does not (as well as what ever one has posted in making heads up of it), to draw a rational conclusion to what has caused this type of damage.

1. Something took place that was not an ordinary detonation to cause this much damage.

2.Drawing from what has been posted, and been described as possible motive, culprit, possibility's, theory's, and a reasonable explanation, has proven to lead to a dead end by many here. i too am a little stumped as well. And yet there is a cause and an explanation some where in this event.

3.The utubes are full of far out ideas, from a intentional fire, and that the point of origin was started where a divorced lady (with current restraining order against the ex-spouse) had been trying to sell here home for while and was at a casino the night that it had happen. So the authority's were grilling her pretty good try find in complicity, or involvement in the event. Or that very well could be just a cover to hide something, and divert eye's.

4.Some speculated as here that it was a possible drone strike, but no body's seeing any sign of a crater, or shrapnel, or parts that resemble a drone that i have found. Though there was a report of black helicopter the night before in the vicinity.

5.Then I thought like others here, of a possible atmospheric meteor burst, but would there this was so much fire associated with that kind of situation, that a concussion made from above does not support it, as many have already made that observation as nothing was laid down in in any one pattern of direction of it's approach. There was tale of the neighborhood hearing two explosions at the time it happen. Also, many thought that way the concussion was felt that home owners thought that they had been hit be something only to find that only been effected by a concussion. Also the sighting of lights in the sky the night before was talked about.

6.Then the gas or inner earth methane leek was also good bet but many say that did not smell any indications of such before the event, unless it was orderless, which natural gas is by nature in the raw state, and Mercaptan or similar sulfur based additive is added buy utility in most cases to help in the detection of the element. It is mandated for public safety by the Department of Transportation (DOT) at the point of residential gas use and in larger service lines, especially when these lines pass through or are in proximity to residential areas. But that could very well been eliminated ( the odar) at the source by corrupted elements, just use the imagination to figure how, and why perhaps. ( http://www.flowcontrolnetwork.com/PastIssues/jan2004/4.asp )

7.There is wild speculation (not on this forum) that it could be an intentional drone strike, to promote the continued war of fear within the population by factions within the government battling for control like those responsible for 9/11, Oklahoma, Waco, etc. I can believe that but just not seeing anything that hold weight that would be obvious. That does no mean it couldn't be possible by the gut less psychopaths in power.

8.Then there is the guy that was involved in the plasma lighting industry with a resume that if true, was pretty impressive, with an educational of background and connections, that was pretty impressive. Was there something that he had brought home with to work on that backfired. As plasma gas application were part of his successful business ventures.

Or (pure speculation on my part) was he involved in something that he was working and had come to realize that what that was, and had become a threat to it's secrecy that he had to be eliminated at any cost, collateral damage, was just a product to add to the confusion.

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So i took another look at the one popular aerial shown (that could have been altered) to look for some clues.

The showing the front fascia of the house with plastic shingles, which look like the the blast lifted therm up, from the ground up which was kind of weird.

Also the one below it would seem that that blast may have been at the back of the building given what appears to be a lot of the debris seemed towards the back as to the front. Was something planted back there, and then detonated.

Sound Explosion of Indianapolis from 15 miles away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Or0KSzyDU

Indianapolis EXPLOSION: NOT Gas Explosion ( comparisons of information )
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joCaUrRLB1Y

Indianapolis Explosion Update - Shocking info on John Dion Longworth
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxewSONvIaM

Indianapolis Explosion Home Owner "Talks" (narrative by blogger whom could be anyone)
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCZVyBbDFPE

Microwave Plasma Ignition
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH3qVUvzuk4
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=A7RFyh5ABcQ&feature=endscreen
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GiIVze2Tac
The next page has view with some lines i drew in the direction of the chard material indicating the possible direction and intensity of the pattern of the fire.

Other that, it is very puzzling to the actual cause. But there got to be evidence, that may have removed, or hidden as so many agency's were involved, any thing is possible, to suppress the truth.

 

[Ca.]

Picture #3 possible above head detonation perhaps?

 

[Serendipity]

Interesting video where guy connects gas explosions, earthquakes and sinkholes with movement of north american tectonic plate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sigV02V5yMY&feature=g-all

 

[anart]

Interesting video where guy connects gas explosions, earthquakes and sinkholes with movement of north american tectonic plate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sigV02V5yMY&feature=g-all

dutchsinse is basically a disinfo artist (though it may not be conscious on his part - no way to know at this point). He hits on some good points, but there's always a twist in his interpretation - away from the truth. In this case, it's the fact that he is completely discounting overhead bolide explosions despite the number of sightings recently. The twist is obvious.

 

[Serendipity]

The twist is obvious.

Maybe I should have put that in the description even if I thought it's obvious. Thanks for doing that instead, Anart.

 

[Gimpy]

Note: I have not read this in its entirety, I'm looking for another article about an earth slide that happened this week at a construction site:


http://www.indystar.com/article/20121201/NEWS02/212010342/Richmond-Hill-blast-Experts-examine-what-s-left-look-backward-for-the-how-why?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|SPORTS0602


5:12 PM, Dec 1, 2012

As the probe of the Richmond Hill blast that killed two people enters a third week, investigators continue to grapple with fundamental questions.

Who did it? How did they do it? Why?

Despite what is believed -- or assumed -- the answers in such cases are often elusive.

Explosions and, similarly, arson, are among the most difficult crimes to solve and prosecute, and can take years to close. Consider: Nationally, only 19.9 percent of 43,412 arsons ended in arrests in 2011, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In Indianapolis, the rate is about the same.

"This is a furtive crime and is the hardest to prove," said Peter Beering, an Indianapolis terrorism consultant, former director of the Marion County Emergency Management Agency and a Marion County prosecutor specializing in arson for 15 years. "First you have to prove what happened. Then comes the whodunit part."

While investigators pick through debris at the blast site, the investigation is entering the next stage -- the tedious work of analyzing thousands of pieces of evidence, large and small, already taken away to the Marion County and the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives crime labs.

At the same time, detectives are pounding the pavement looking for the person who caused the explosion. Authorities said the deaths of Jennifer and John "Dion" Longworth were homicides, which means someone intended the explosion. The Longworths lived next door to the house that exploded. Investigators have searched homes and cars -- of whom they won't say -- for clues that corroborate what they've found in the rubble.

Sources close to the investigation have told The Star there is a working theory. Investigators think someone filled the house with gas and then ignited it remotely. But proving that -- as well as who was behind it -- is another matter.

The biggest obstacle is that evidence in fires and explosions is often destroyed or damaged and what is left requires scientific examination.

Witnesses to the crime also are difficult to find. Often, arsons are planned, then committed at night and the perpetrator has an alibi far from the scene, experts said. The dearth of witnesses puts a burden on investigators to build a solid circumstantial case -- and on prosecutors to present lab evidence cogently to jurors.

This is the first page of this article, there are three more pages. It struck me as interesting skimming it, that with such an intense explosion, they're throwing up their hands like this. Comparing it to 9-11 just increases suspicions....but that could be me being the paranoid person I am.

 

[Gimpy]

This might be related to the theory that the earth is opening up. (Or not.)

Thought it might be relevant, but haven't read it all the way through:



http://www.indystar.com/viewart/20121130/NEWS/121130020/One-person-killed-earth-slide-Ind-25-work-site-near-Delphi

6:52 PM, Nov 30, 2012 |

One person was killed when a hillside gave way at a construction site for a segment of the Hoosier Heartland Corridor.

The deceased is Arthur Kerns, 30, who was employed by T.J. Lambrecht Construction, according to the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department.

Emergency crews in Carroll County responded to the call for help just north of Delphi around 1:15 p.m. Friday.

The earth slide occurred at an embankment near county road 300 North, where the new Hoosier Heartland will cross Deer Creek and join the existing Indiana 25 North.

Crews there were in the process of building abutments for a bridge that will span the new four-lane Hoosier Heartland.

Co-workers said Kerns’ father was at the site when the incident happened, and during the hour-long effort to recover the 30-year old’s body.

Jay Dee Cree, the Carroll County coroner, said an autopsy will be performed to determine the cause and manner of death.

Indiana State Police technicians were called in to take photos and document the scene.

Workers from INDOT, Walsh Construction, and T.J. Lambrecht were present when the earth gave way, according to Matt Deitchley, an INDOT media relations representative.

“INDOT is cooperating with local investigators and we will provide answers as best we can,” Deitchley said.

Deitchley did not know when work might resume at the location.

The subcontractor, T.J. Lambrecht, is also investigating the incident, according to a spokesman at the company headquarters in Joliet, Illinois.

T.J. Lambrecht specializes in earth moving, underground infrastructure, and project management, and was ranked #276 on the Engineering News-Record 2011 list of the top 400 contractors in the nation, according to its web site.

 

[Beau]

Gas line explodes in West Virginia:

At least five homes went up in flames Tuesday afternoon and a badly burned section of Interstate 77 in West Virginia was closed after a natural gas line exploded in an hour-long inferno.

No injuries were immediately reported, but firefighters had just begun to reach damaged structures late in the afternoon after the intense flames kept them at bay for several hours.

Several people were treated for smoke inhalation, and a shelter was set up at Sissonville High School, where Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin planned a late-afternoon press conference

State Police spokesman Sgt. Michael Baylous said a slight risk of a secondary explosion remained as long as the gas continued to leak, but people were told to stay inside their homes rather than evacuate. The explosion occurred near Sissonville just before 1 p.m.

Kent Carper, president of the Kanawha County Commission, said flames had been shooting 50 to 75 feet into the air before the fire was extinguished.

"It sounded like a Boeing 757. Just a roar," he said. "It was huge. You just couldn't hear anything. It was like a space flight."

Trevor Goins lives about a half-mile from the explosion and was watching television in his apartment when he saw a ripple in his coffee cup and the floor shook.

"I thought possibly (it was) a plane crash," said Goins, who immediately went outside with several neighbors. "It was so loud it sounded like a turbine engine. You almost had to put your hands over your ears."

He got in his car and drove closer, seeing fire that stretched as high as the hilltops.

"The flames were so high, they were so massive," he said. "I could only imagine what had happened"

Carper said the flames spanned about a quarter of a mile and ran through a culvert under the interstate.

"It actually cooked the interstate," he said. "It looks like a tar pit."

The interstate will be shut down for two days while engineers and inspectors repair the damage and assess whether a bridge was compromised, said State Police Sgt. Chris Zerkle. Route 21 will also be closed until further notice, he said.

Zerkle said a State Police helicopter team was going up to ascertain the extent of the damage while a command center was being set up nearby.

Mike Banas, communications manager for gas line owner NiSource Inc., said the company was still gathering facts.

"Our first priority is the safety of our employees and the community," he said.

Sissonville Fire Chief Tim Gooch said a nursing home is less than a mile from the site of the blast, but the patients are safe. Paramedics were sent to check on them as a precaution.

 

[Gimpy]

This popped up again this morning, thought the timing was interesting:

http://www.indystar.com/article/20121221/NEWS/121221007/Prosecutor-charges-3-with-felony-murder-in-Richmond-Hill-explosion




12:52 PM, Dec 21, 2012

Prosecutors charged three people with felony murder today in the Southeastside Indianapolis house explosion last month that killed two people and destroyed or damaged dozens of homes.

Monserrate Shirley, whose Southside home exploded killing two of her neighbors, was charged, along with her boyfriend, Mark Leonard and his brother, Robert Leonard. They were taken into custody this morning, prosecutors said.

Authorities say the trio released gas into the house by opening or removing the regulator valve on the home’s gas fireplace. Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said a microwave oven set on a timer was used to ignite the gas.

Curry said they also tried and failed to blow up the house the weekend before the explosion.

Curry said Shirley had recently increased the insurance coverage on her house to $300,000. The trio was hoping to cash in the insurance payments to pay off their sizeable debt. Curry said Robert Leonard took personal items, including photographs and financial documents, out of the house prior to the explosion.

In addition to two counts of felony murder, each of the defendants was charged with one count of conspiracy to commit arson, a Class A felony; 12 counts of arson, a Class A felony; and 33 counts of arson, a Class B felony.

Also, Shirley and Mark Leonard were each charged with an additional count of conspiracy to commit arson, a Class B felony.

The case qualifies for the death penalty or life without parole due to multiple deaths, authorities said.

Prosecutors will wait 30 days to decide whether to seek the death penalty.

“We are here today to discuss a thoroughly, thoroughly senseless act which resulted in the death of two young adults in the prime of their life,” Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry said in the first minutes of the news conference on the first floor of his office’s building in Downtown Indianapolis.

“We in the criminal justice community must devote our best efforts to see that justice is served on behalf of those victims,” he said, including those who were injured or the dozens whose homes were damaged beyond repair.

Curry was flanked by more than a dozen local officials from the prosecutor’s office, the Indianapolis Department of Public Safety, the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department, the Fire Department, the Marion County Sheriff’s Office and the Indianapolis mayor’s office. Others were there to represent the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the U.S. Secret Service, both of which played key roles in the multiple-agency investigation.


(There are two more pages to this, wanted to get it posted before I forgot it.)

Note: bold mine

 

[Calley]

I ran across this forum today in my daily search and have sat here and read everything. I want to thank you all, this is the most rational discussion on this topic I have yet to find. I post daily Explosion Updates on YouTube and in my time on-line I'm over-whelmed with information regarding the Richmond Hills explosion. I find this extremely disturbing that these 3 people have already been tried and convicted by the media.

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi Calley,

Welcome to the forum. :) We recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves. Have a read through that section to get an idea of how others have done it. Thanks.