Failed Trump Assassination Attempt

The videos of the water tower is not convincing, I don't see anything there that would resemble a person, and the resolution is so low you can see other parts of the water tower warping due to the pixelation. The audio analysis seems to be the best evidence so far of a second shooter.

I'm just wondering why they didn't use some other less obvious methods to kill Donald Trump? They could put him out to pasture without raising nearly as much "noticing" in the general public, installed their RNC / Deep State Shill Nikki Haley, and the Republicans can tell all the conservatives they beat Biden and are going to undo his damage (But not really, same as the old boss and all that).

1. 3D STS Just hate this guy that much - The media / deep staters (possible hybrids) use vitrioloic language, aggitated / aggresive body language - They just feel this rage and indignation towards Trump for trying to undo some of their plans, trying to take their power that they are so entitled to, away from them. "Yes we want to blow his brains out all over national television! That's what he gets!". They have gotten away with so much for so long, of course they'd rather have a gory public end to their #1 enemy, rather than letting him slip away after a stroke in a confy hospital bed, away from the public eye.

2. 4D STS - The ensuing chaos, with all the different out of control emotions that this assassination would've generated, would probably a nice feast for them I'm sure.
 
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SubnetUnMask said:
The videos of the water tower is not convincing, I don't see anything there that would resemble a person, and the resolution is so low you can see other parts of the water tower warping due to the pixelation. The audio analysis seems to be the best evidence so far of a second shooter.

I'm just wondering why they didn't use some other less obvious methods to kill Donald Trump? They could put him out to pasture without raising nearly as much "noticing" in the general public, installed their RNC / Deep State Shill Nikki Haley, and the Republicans can tell all the conservatives they beat Biden and are going to undo his damage (But not really, same as the old boss and all that).

1. 3D STS Just hate this guy that much - The media / deep staters (possible hybrids) use vitrioloic language, aggitated / aggresive body language - They just feel this rage and indignation towards Trump for trying to undo some of their plans, trying to take their power that they are so entitled to, away from them. "Yes we want to blow his brains out all over national television! That's what he gets!". They have gotten away with so much for so long, of course they'd rather have a gory public end to their #1 enemy, rather than letting him slip away after a stroke in a confy hospital bed, away from the public eye.

2. 4D STS - The ensuing chaos, with all the different out of control emotions that this assassination would've generated, would probably a nice feast for them I'm sure.
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Yes, they really love chaos. Also, consider how they have used these "shocks" and the following emotional mayhem for their purposes in the past. When people are completely riled up and emotional, it's easy to use that as an "entry point".

For example, perhaps their plan was to a) execute Trump in this blatant way, filmed in 4K b) ludicrously blame Iran on orchestrating the thing c) since Iran is a blindspot of both Trump and JD Vance and other Trumpists, the RINOs/Neocons could have easily used all the outrage to take back the Republican party, and organise their beloved war/sanctions/etc. against Iran. From the neocon perspective, this would have been a perfect outcome: GOP back on track with the agenda, Neocon president, excuse for more wars and chaos...
 
In the futuristic novel 1984, there was a minute of hatred, a very important way for people not only to let off steam but also to fuel hatred. And this fuel is food for those who are manipulating. That's where we are now. It's totally decadent, and all the while people continue to die from Covid injections, and the genocide in Gaza continues as if nothing had happened. People who hate are blind, they do not see the reality, they are poisoned by hate. And hate, like fear, help to manipulate people. “They” need to feed the hatred, but not on the real culprits.

During the Covid, hatred was directed at those who were not vaccinated, because those who forced people to take the injection should not be hated. Because the only way to change the situation is to love your neighbour, you have to keep up the hatred at all costs, whether it's towards Trump or Biden or Iran or Putin, or those who think different about what you think, and so on. Never love. It's really pathetic and without love humanity will die, like an insect crushed by a mastodon foot.
 
Here's the video of Crooks on the roof at the time of the first shots. It's the only video of him while the shooting is ongoing that I can find. Mrtn posted a composite video with it earlier in the thread.

I realize that there's less than a second to work with on this but in that fraction of a second Crooks is in focus when the first gunshot can be heard and I'm not seeing any recoil of the gun, muzzle flash, smoke, or anything.

The muzzle flash and smoke could've been obscured by the angle of the roof as the end of the gun barrel cannot be seen. At the same time, his gun might be more square to his chest than in the pocket of his shoulder which would cut back on recoil. Also, I don't know what modifications were on the gun that might reduce recoil. The video also wasn't the best quality because it was a zoomed in phone.

In other words, I'm not convinced I can trust what I think I'm seeing.

However, I think it's still worth noting I don't see any movement at all from Crooks or his shoulder at the time of the first gunshot.

The CNN analysis about the first three shots being from a different gun does make the observation seem more valid.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812347129265836172
 
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I’ve tried to calculate the approximate bullet speed from this photo, or rather, what I am trying to do is rule out a subsonic bullet.

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There are a lot of premises that go into the calculation. I have taken the premises in such a way to try to kind of be able to take all the worst case scenarios to “slow the bullet down” (to see, if I can reach a subsonic speed).

The first premise is, that the photo is not fake. Not sure really if that is true, to me this shot is very, very unlikely to be made, even if you were in on the deal.

I have put two lines in the front and back of his head (red). Average distance from front of face to the back is 8 inches. Trump is a beefy guy and the back marker is not exactly at his back of the head, but in his hair, which means the distance is somewhat longer. But his head is slightly rotated, which foreshortens the distance a bit - all up I have come to use 10 inches between the red two markers, or 0.254 m. On my photo this measures 31mm.

The bullet path: Between the two green lines. Of course we don’t know whether the bullet path was fully captured, as it was passing behind Trump’s head. But taking it from the exit point from behind Trump is the worst case scenario for my question, anything longer would require a higher bullet speed (so if the bullet was truly subsonic, but I took a longer path than it really did, this would lead to an apparently faster bullet). Also the bullet path could be foreshortened, but again, taking the shot as exactly perpendicular (thus no foreshortening at all) is the worst-case scenario, as foreshortening increases bullet speed. The distance on my photo is 46mm.

Thus the ratio of the two distances in the photo is 31mm/ 46mm = 0.674.

If we posit that the approximate distance between the red markers is 0.254 m, then the distance between the two green markers would be 0.254 m/ 0.674 = 0.377 m (or more)

Allegedly the shutter speed was 1/8000th - which translates to a shutter opening time of 0.000125 seconds.

Velocity is Distance/ Time, so veolcity would be 0.377 m/0.000125 s = 3016 m/s. Now that’s way too fast even for a very fast (supersonic) bullet. The fastest bullets ever produced are just below 5000 fps (or roughly 1500 m/s). The speed of sound is around 343 m/s.

From all this follows, that if my premises are vaguely correct, it is very unlikely a subsonic bullet, or else the photo is a fake, or the alleged camera settings are misreported.

For all these reasons I think this photo is fake …
 
Here is the translation of an interview of the former bodyguard of former French president Nicolas Sarkozy about the Trump assassination attempt:

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- I had the impression, above all, of a disorganized team,
of maybe amateur people, or maybe non-trained, or maybe beginners.

-He is Jean-Pierre Diot, specialist of the close-up guard.
He has notably protected Nicolas Sarkozy and Pope Jean Paul II.
He was shown the video of the assassination attempt of Donald Trump,
and here is his reaction:

- He's the one who gets down.
That is to say, he feels something in his ear.
He says, I'm going to get down, because there's something going on.
I don't know what it is.
But normally, that was the role of the evacuator.
To evacuate, to lay on the ground, to reassure him,
to say, now we're going to work, we're going to evacuate.

The guy hides, he have to changes his job, in my opinion.
He goes down, rather than going into contact, he runs away.

Guy hiding.jpg

It's the same, he lies down and he lifts him up with a view of his face,
but really flagrant in front of everyone.

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These officers are not carriers of the Kevlar suitcase.
It's a triptych, it's a suitcase that we unfold, but which is the proof of the bullets.
If there was a Kevlar or even umbrellas,
we put an umbrella, it hides everything, it makes a visual shelter,
and we don't see what's going on.

That is to say that if there was a shooter, he doesn't know where to hit,
possibly if there was a second one.
But here, it's very easy to hit him.
And here, I notice that there is no equipment.
If it is only to donate his body,
by surrounding the personality, both good and bad,
with little gabarits, with people who are agitated.
We have the impression that there is a ball of rugby in the middle,
it's a mess.
There are my hands that protect with his hand,
as if a hand could protect a 5.56.
It's long, it's long, it's long, before evacuating.

He lets him do his job,
but normally, in these cases, the personality does nothing, doesn't say anything.
He is no longer the boss.
It is those who evacuate and who want to save his life who are the bosses.
We don't let him shine like that, the point raised, etc.
No, no, we lay him down, we hide him, we evacuate him.

Once again, it's an amateur who did that, who shot.
If it had been a pro, it would have been a two,
the second one wouldn't have been in it.

The vehicle is far away, there is a kind of confusion, etc.
He shouldn't have come in through the right door,
but through the left door, hidden from where the aggression comes from.

There are a lot of little things that don't go,
which are, in my opinion, the object of a non-training
or a non-repetition of emergency evacuation, let's say.

We don't see any drones, we don't see any controls,
we don't see any external patrols, etc.

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The person, the gunman, is 150 meters away with the scope,
he sees what's going on, if he has a carry, he sees it,
with the performance glasses they have.
So, at the same time, he immediately saw that he had a weapon.
There, he didn't need an order there.
- They can shoot without an order?
- There, completely.
But there, we see that, indeed, it would seem that it lets us see
that he was observing the shooter
and that he waited for him to shoot to be able to react.
It's just an impression. Now you have to be careful with pictures.

In their defence, you have to realise that meetings are both one of the most difficult missions
for a security officer, because, precisely, there can be fireworks,
there can be a kind of diversion,
having a few seconds of interrogation.
"What's going on? Are they fireworks?
Are they fireworks?"

What's surprising is that really no one saw this shooter
go up with his gun, settle down nicely,
like in a forest party.
And that, on the other hand, there is something really that escapes me.

Apparently, it was in a farm or rather isolated.
It was quite simple, at the base.
And with a building to watch over, he didn't.
That, I can't understand.
Frankly, it's something that I...
That's it.
I would have even put a sniper on the building
to make a counter-target, a counter-sniper.
You could see him from very far away.
You could really almost feel him.
And no one, well...
That, it will be explained after the investigation.
There will be something, in my opinion.
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Joe said:
Alleged police audio on the day: "shots fired towards the blue water tank"


https://twitter.com/x/status/1814626591521083740
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Ok, if that's genuine that's certainly interesting.

On that note one things that has been on my mind and hasn't changed is the two counter sniper shots. It's made me wonder if they managed to kill one of the actual professional assassins along with Crooks.

We have the following list of possible sniper locations:
From a window below Crooks in the building he was on (need to confirm if the shot that hit the railing/people was a rising shot compared to Trump).
To the right and behind Crooks in the two story building (where the photo of him was apparently taken).
The roof of the taller building behind Crooks (from the ZeroHedge article, also my first pick when this started).
The water tower (if the shot towards it was one of the counter snipers, very interesting indeed).

So - how about they had snipers in many/all the positions? That sure as hell would make it difficult to work out who was shooting from where. Plus they'd 'be certain to get Trump'.
They'd have up to 4 'magic bullets'.

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The footage of the counter snipers we can see reacting when the first shot is fired. Did he react like that because he saw something odd?
Ok, maybe it's simple surprise. But how about he saw/'thought he saw' shots coming from somewhere completely unexpected.
 
BHelmet said:
Anybody who leads with click bait style messaging and bombast gets a Vulcan eyebrow from me these days.
"My Jaw is on the Floor."
"OMG, Insider former CIA Navy Seal Remote Viewing Body Builder from MIT will blow your mind!"
"Three Shooters? NO! Make that FIVE!"
"Absolutely Shocking Leaked Video that has the CIA quaking in their Boots!"

et cetera, et cetera, et cetera
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The valid criticisms of the PhD guy are well taken, but the clickbait stuff was posted by Benny and his words shouldn't be used to disparage the information in the video that seems to me to be balanced & questioning and open to more exploration. He used Mike Adams forensic audio examination in part and seemed to just want to get this type of investigation opened up and requested for more input.
 
Not sure if this has been posted yet, I've been trying to read everything but someone just sent it to me. Anyhow, it's from a guy who said Trump had some opera song played at the end of the RNC (I didn't watch till the end) that this guy recognized as being from a movie (I didn't see the movie) where there was an assassination attempt on the president, but it was a conspiracy and they used a patsy, and the prez figured out who it was.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1814459897079017911
 
Joe said:
How about a drone sniper?

www.businessinsider.com

Israeli firm develops an infantry drone that can fire machine guns and sniper rifles at targets while flying

The next-generation fighting drone armed with infantry weapons is called The Smash Dragon and was designed by the Israeli company Smart Shooter.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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Curiously, Crooks is now alleged to have flown a drone around the area without a problem.

nypost.com

Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks flew drone over Pa. rally site hours before deadly shooting: report

A drone was later found in Crooks’ car after he was shot dead when he opened fire on Trump.
nypost.com nypost.com
 
Mrs. Peel said:
Not sure if this has been posted yet, I've been trying to read everything but someone just sent it to me. Anyhow, it's from a guy who said Trump had some opera song played at the end of the RNC (I didn't watch till the end) that this guy recognized as being from a movie (I didn't see the movie) where there was an assassination attempt on the president, but it was a conspiracy and they used a patsy, and the prez figured out who it was.
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I haven't seen the movie either, but I did find an interesting article about the connection:

"Nessun Dorma" is an aria from the final act of Giacomo Puccini's opera "Turandot" and one of the most popular tenor arias in all of opera. The aria is sung by the character Calaf, il principe ignoto (the unknown prince), who falls in love at first sight with the beautiful but cold Princess Turandot. Any man who wishes to wed Turandot must first answer her three riddles. If he fails, he will be beheaded. In the aria, Calaf expresses his triumphant assurance that he will win the princess.

However, the aria also has a more sinister connotation beyond its original intention in the opera. It is featured in the 2002 film "The Sum of All Fears," based on Tom Clancy's 1991 novel. This political thriller, a sequel to "Clear and Present Danger" (1989), involves CIA Deputy Director Jack Ryan, who attempts to prevent a nuclear war between the U.S. and the Soviet Union circa 1985. Ryan faces entrenched bureaucrats from both sides and a missing nuclear warhead, which each side uses to further their agendas.At the end of the movie, Ryan is triumphant in preventing a nuclear holocaust, and "Nessun Dorma" plays. The camera shifts to various antagonists who meet their deaths by car bombs, throat slashing, and other means. Watch the end of "The Sum of All Fears" here.
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Source: The Greatest Troll Ever by Trump But Not Many Understood It
 
nicklebleu said:
I’ve tried to calculate the approximate bullet speed from this photo, or rather, what I am trying to do is rule out a subsonic bullet.

View attachment 98494

There are a lot of premises that go into the calculation. I have taken the premises in such a way to try to kind of be able to take all the worst case scenarios to “slow the bullet down” (to see, if I can reach a subsonic speed).

The first premise is, that the photo is not fake. Not sure really if that is true, to me this shot is very, very unlikely to be made, even if you were in on the deal.

I have put two lines in the front and back of his head (red). Average distance from front of face to the back is 8 inches. Trump is a beefy guy and the back marker is not exactly at his back of the head, but in his hair, which means the distance is somewhat longer. But his head is slightly rotated, which foreshortens the distance a bit - all up I have come to use 10 inches between the red two markers, or 0.254 m. On my photo this measures 31mm.

The bullet path: Between the two green lines. Of course we don’t know whether the bullet path was fully captured, as it was passing behind Trump’s head. But taking it from the exit point from behind Trump is the worst case scenario for my question, anything longer would require a higher bullet speed (so if the bullet was truly subsonic, but I took a longer path than it really did, this would lead to an apparently faster bullet). Also the bullet path could be foreshortened, but again, taking the shot as exactly perpendicular (thus no foreshortening at all) is the worst-case scenario, as foreshortening increases bullet speed. The distance on my photo is 46mm.

Thus the ratio of the two distances in the photo is 31mm/ 46mm = 0.674.

If we posit that the approximate distance between the red markers is 0.254 m, then the distance between the two green markers would be 0.254 m/ 0.674 = 0.377 m (or more)

Allegedly the shutter speed was 1/8000th - which translates to a shutter opening time of 0.000125 seconds.

Velocity is Distance/ Time, so veolcity would be 0.377 m/0.000125 s = 3016 m/s. Now that’s way too fast even for a very fast (supersonic) bullet. The fastest bullets ever produced are just below 5000 fps (or roughly 1500 m/s). The speed of sound is around 343 m/s.

From all this follows, that if my premises are vaguely correct, it is very unlikely a subsonic bullet, or else the photo is a fake, or the alleged camera settings are misreported.

For all these reasons I think this photo is fake …
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Thanks and very interesting. There are also other discussions/commentators, that it isn't the bullet per se, but the vapor trail of a bullet.

A lot will be made of the picture below. This is not a bullet, it is a vapor trail. This happens during very humid days where the supersonic bullet condenses the air around it into water vapor. The bullet is a few inches in front of this condensation.
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Initial thoughts about the Attempted Assassination on President Trump

Not a chance YouTube will let me talk about this
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