FIFA, Germanwings and VW have something in common?

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VW, one of the largest automotive groups in Germany, was accused last week by the United States to have carried out massive manipulations of the software.
The United States stated that it VW observed for a year.
Interesting is the date of publication. I was reminiscent of the raid like the US intervention in Switzerland in the case of FIFA scandal. In this case, you also stated that investigations have begun for a long time. As described herein, it was not about the FIFA but preventing the World Cup in Russia.
In the case of VW, I wonder: Is this about the rapprochement between Germany and Russia in the case of Syria?
How many scandals, the US has yet to punish its sleeve to keep the Germans on the trail or for their political behavior?


http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/volkswagen-skandal-wie-die-us-behoerden-vw-auf-die-spur-kamen-a-1053972.html
 
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France calls for investigation also:

http://www.thelocal.fr/20150922/vw-scandal-french-minister-calls-for-europ
 
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Jean d`arc said:
In the case of VW, I wonder: Is this about the rapprochement between Germany and Russia in the case of Syria?
How many scandals, the US has yet to punish its sleeve to keep the Germans on the trail or for their political behavior?


http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/volkswagen-skandal-wie-die-us-behoerden-vw-auf-die-spur-kamen-a-1053972.html

Well, I actually wonder the same: Germany moves away from the US anti-Putin alliance and joins forces with Russia in coalition to defeat ISIS

As hinted in the comment of that article, last week there also was a bomb threat in Munich central railway station.

To me it seems a bit like too many coincidences in the same direction at around the same time...

PS: Over the year, it had looked several times like Germany wanted to "break out".
 
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VW director has been resigned:

http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/sep/23/markets-chinese-economy-fears-vw-crisis-live-updates
 
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Learner said:
Jean d`arc said:
In the case of VW, I wonder: Is this about the rapprochement between Germany and Russia in the case of Syria?
How many scandals, the US has yet to punish its sleeve to keep the Germans on the trail or for their political behavior?


http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/volkswagen-skandal-wie-die-us-behoerden-vw-auf-die-spur-kamen-a-1053972.html

Well, I actually wonder the same: Germany moves away from the US anti-Putin alliance and joins forces with Russia in coalition to defeat ISIS

As hinted in the comment of that article, last week there also was a bomb threat in Munich central railway station.

To me it seems a bit like too many coincidences in the same direction at around the same time...

PS: Over the year, it had looked several times like Germany wanted to "break out".

Yeah, I wondered about this too. It really seems like a "punishment", and it kind of makes sense: If Germany "leaves" the empire even a little bit, that would be catastrophic from the US point of view I guess. BUT, I have a hard time believing that current German politicians will talk sense and do something useful. They are firmly in the grip of think tank networks and transatlantic pressure groups, if not downright psychopaths themselves (von der Leyen for example may be a good candidate I think), not to forget that the empire controls the German media, which in turn can "shoot down" every politician any day. The only way I could imagine serious moves by Germany would be that the reality of the refugees creates such a pressure from the bottom, from reasonable burocrats in the administration and the public, that the top guys are forced to find ways - and maybe Russia helps them out with that smartly.

Anyway, I guess from the perspective of the psychopathic empire, a little show of their power - especially via their control of the media - doesn't hurt to get their colonies back in line...
 
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Jean d`arc said:
VW, one of the largest automotive groups in Germany, was accused last week by the United States to have carried out massive manipulations of the software.
The United States stated that it VW observed for a year.
Interesting is the date of publication. I was reminiscent of the raid like the US intervention in Switzerland in the case of FIFA scandal. In this case, you also stated that investigations have begun for a long time. As described herein, it was not about the FIFA but preventing the World Cup in Russia.
In the case of VW, I wonder: Is this about the rapprochement between Germany and Russia in the case of Syria?
How many scandals, the US has yet to punish its sleeve to keep the Germans on the trail or for their political behavior?


http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/volkswagen-skandal-wie-die-us-behoerden-vw-auf-die-spur-kamen-a-1053972.html

I think it is possibly a very good example of the kind of 'intel' that the US/NSA has on many corporations and national governments, which the US govt. used to 'have its way'.
 
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This thing will never get old. :D

Hitler Reacts To The VW-EPA Scandal Dieselgate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKef1JFpiCA

BTW this reminds me of Toyota scandal with the "pedal entrapment/floor mat problem" a couple of years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9311_Toyota_vehicle_recalls

Which happened just after the famous collapse of US economy and automobile industry in US.
 
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THis VW issue has been interesting in comparison to how little American companies pay out in fines when a hundred or so people die from their car problems... same with Japan recently... foreign companies pay a much higher price for not following command and thinking outside of the box... in this particular case, it's been known for quite a number of years that both Germany and Japan have engines that get much better gas mileage, but Americans don't want them in this country, as they are doing quite well without it, profits flowing into the gas/oil companies and higher mileage brings less tax for the states, which is happening already due to the recession kicking in again, less jobs equal less need to drive the car... here's one blogger's comments on this issue:
Educated guess: V.W. proved that "emission controls" are more about destroying fuel economy than anything else

Volkswagen has the most fuel efficient cars on the road. Pound for pound, they get better fuel economy than all others, including an up to 300 mpg diesel not available in America. And after years and years of them being on the road, and no one noticing anything at all wrong with the emissions, Volkswagen got busted for programming certain parts of the emission control systems to turn off at all times other than when the cars were in for emission tests.

Why would Volkswagen do this? The answer is obvious - ALL American cars are programmed to waste fuel on purpose, to heat up the catalytic converters so less carbon monoxide is produced (after the catalytic converter burns it off) and as it turns out, a LOT of fuel is wasted this way, many many miles per gallon worth. A car that runs too clean won't heat the catalytic converter up enough for it to function. Having a catalytic converter is all just a corruption enforced arbitrary rule when clean emissions can be accomplished the correct way in any computer controlled car - by burning the fuel perfectly to begin with. Volkswagen basically "broke the law" by producing cars so efficient a catalytic converter was not needed, and they shut off the fuel wasting process that heats the catalytic converter up enough for it to work. No one noticed any stink, because the cars did not make any stink to begin with, and the benefit was much higher fuel economy than any other equivalent cars on the road.

So my question is, why would a corrupted government mandate cars have fuel wasting catalytic converters added to them that produce more CO2 while delivering less mileage, when carbon dioxide is the real threat they are all talking about and no excess carbon monoxide is produced by clean burning Volkswagens anyway, even without the converter? OBVIOUS ANSWER: Global warming is a HOAX, they all know it, but they are confident they can keep the people stupid, while circumventing all possibility of high fuel economy cars being made simply because they have mandated an intentional waste of fuel. This is an intentional waste which in some cases is so extreme it cuts fuel economy in half in even vehicles that were inefficient compared to VW to begin with all the while the mandated "stupidity" creates TONS of carbon dioxide, and they are doing it for a reason: THE CARBON TAX.

They make everyone feel guilty for destroying the planet and then activate their guilt trip control grid. "Guilt" is a powerful mind control weapon, and climate scamsters have milked it to the max. If this was not the case, and there was a real "carbon threat", the 300 mpg Volkswagen XL1 would be the only type of car on the road, perfectly viable transit at an official 261 mpg but well known by owners to be over 300. If emission controls on cars were not all a fuel wasting scam, fuel economy could be increased by 10x overall with ease. Don't expect to see it when Volkswagen gets punished already for creatively circumventing elite climate scamming corruption and getting 85 mpg out of large station wagons by just turning the fuel waster off. And that's diesel, which is efficient anyway but what about Volkswagen's SEAT division, which currently has in Mexico a 65 mpg gasoline car that is only slightly smaller than a Cadillac STS? That did not go away. In fact, up until 2015, Volkswagen had a cheap version of the full sized Jetta called the Jetta Clasico that easily accomplished 55 mpg on gasoline with an old school 2.0 litre engine that delivered a fair amount of spunk.

"FUEL ECONOMY" IS ALL A HOAX FOLKS, even the full sized 4 door Chevy Impala could be pushed to 58 mpg by just replacing the air box intake temperature sensor with a resistor. And that still passed emissions with all software engaged. Yep, Volkswagen is getting the shaft for improving their TDI by not following rules. And no one smelled a thing.
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gdpetti, I agree that this whole "emission control" thing is a scam, especially of course when it comes to the CO2/man-made global warming shtick. However, I don't know about the "guilt" thing - yes, it plays a role, but more in the sense that people are made to look to the government to "fix the problem".

I think when it comes to the environment, pollution etc. (forgetting so-called global warming for a moment), a little more guilt wouldn't hurt I think! You know, the kind of guilt that makes you think twice if you need that big car, that makes you buy a small, economic car that does the job equally well. But that's exactly the kind of thinking that is not encouraged - on the contrary, they tell you "oh we have this huge, fast, powerful car, and it is so environment-friendly!", which of course defies common sense and is impossible. But people love it - they can have their cake and eat it too, or so they think: they can have their new gadget, their new big status symbol, and feel good about themselves for "doing something for the environment"! And that's true here in Germany, a nation that is always presented as an example of ecologic responsibility.

So it really is no wonder that VW faked their data, and I bet that every manufacturer does this one way or the other. It's good old global capitalism: make people feel good about your product and "create a market". I always thought that if the German government was serious about ecology and even CO2-emissions, they would create massive incentives to keep your old car, repair it cheaply and drive it for decades. That is the most environment-friendly thing you can do, no matter what they tell you. Instead, of course, they do the exact opposite: in fact, here in Germany (and I guess in other countries), it became downright uneconomic to drive your car for more than a couple of years, since the repairs are hugely expensive, the cars are full of electronics that tend to fail all the time, and the regulations are such that you pay a lot more taxes for older cars, plus there are many incentives for buying new ones. It came to a point where people who want (or need) "good quality" cars are usually leasing them, so that they can get a new one every couple of years, before the car is totally devalued and the failures begin. Of course, this is a dream for the car industry!

Anyway, I thought this aspect is worth discussing now that we have this scandal.


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The sovereign wealth fund of Qatar has the VW scandal to record a loss of 4.3 billion dollars as holders of preference shares.
http://de.sputniknews.com/wirtschaft/20150924/304503877.html

Perhaps the VW scandal also serves to give Qatar a lesson.
Saudi Arabia is also made strangely in Mecca within a very short time of 2 major disasters. Especially in the Royal Exchange Year.
Both countries have, so far I am really remember strong connection to IS.
Can you see a connection here?
The automotive group is now now also suspected of manipulating the stock market noise down. Economic war?
 
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Interesting statement of the German, critical exchange professional Müller. Coincident with ideas given here.

> Nobody stirs over embellished consumption values of vehicles on even though it is known to everyone.
> Uncovering of the scandal at the time of launch of the new Passat. This should in the years to stir up the competition from GM and Ford.
> German behave unreal: make all producers under Gene Real suspicion, talk about the end of "Made in Germany" and determine the sinking of the German economy.
> Merkel argued faktenlos and shall convene special sessions.
> Why outraged the German non-billion scandal interest manipulation and real estate scandals in the billions of the German Federal Bank?
> The defective ignition locks at GM resulted in 900 million penalty. In VW, there are 18 billion due to emission levels
> At the same time a complaint from Brazil from a period of 1964 - 1985

Strange coincidences

http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Mr-Dax-VW-Skandal-ist-gar-keiner-article16002516.html
 
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Europe stands to lose a total of €100bn - according to the Austrian Institute of Economic Research in Vienna (WIFO) - from its economy due to the trade sanctions it had to place on Russia, putting around two million jobs across members states at risk.

While the American Neocon elites are trying very hard to keep EU countries and especially Germany cooperating and trading closely with Russia, the economic recession will necessitate an increase in trading between the EU and Russia.
The more the US is hitting Europe economically, the more Europeans will have to turn to Russia to compensate for their losses.

At some point in time German financial oligarchs, though traditionally very much aligned with the US, will have to jump ship and turn to Russia, China and Iran to maintain their businesses. The Minsk agreements and the recent contacts with Russia over the Syrian crisis indicate that German foreign policy is probably not totally controlled by the US.
 
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There have been some interesting technological advances recently announced by VW that seem to be in direct contrast to US economic interests.

The most fuel efficient car ever the Volkswagen XL1:

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m75t4UtX93c

Also the electric eGolf:

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVhQGke4u-w

As already stated here, the timing and the modus operandi are familiar. One positive however might be damage to the TPP prospect as far as Germany are concerned..

We will see!
 
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