Finding it difficult to smoke lately

[SolarMother]

hope i'm not too late in helping you out! if you have any other questions just ask and i promise to get back to you sooner than a month this time!!!

Chance

No problemo! It was a process in searching things out. I ended up not going w/pipe tobacco, mainly because of the prices and having to buy online (no decent pipe tobaccos in my local shoppe.) I found something else--cigarillos called 'Supreme Cigars' that are tasty, smooth and have no additives or FSC in the paper. So far, I am liking them. Thank you for all the information, I'm sure others will benefit from what you posted. Happy smokin'

 

[SolarMother]

Forgot to mention, just in case anyone else is interested, that the Supreme Cigar brand only costs 2.10 per pack, or 21.00 a carton, and that was a big deciding factor for me as well. :O

 

[Bidoche]

It's strikes me as odd that even though I live in tobacco country, in the home of RJR, local tobacco seems non-existent. I'm not sure if RJR has a clamp on most of the growing around here or what. I was hoping to come across a little farm that does some tobacco on the side but no luck so far. From what I've seen from reviews here and there on additive free tobaccos my choices are down to Kentucky Select (as mentioned), Canoe brands, and Golden Harvest. Still, being additive free doens't mean that it's grown without pesticides or other chemicals which is a bit disconcerting. Is AS the only one that is certified organic?

I've been smoking PUEBLO these past six months and find it very enjoyable as tobacco goes. On the 30g pouch (just over an ounce), it says "100% leaf tobacco produced without additives", so I take that definition as being organic. Pueblo is manufactured in the European Union and marketed by a German company. It also says "PUEBLO is a traditional blend of North American Virginia tobaccos which are grown under natural conditions also by North American Indians." I'm still trying to figure out what they mean by "also by North American Indians".

 

[Nienna]

It's strikes me as odd that even though I live in tobacco country, in the home of RJR, local tobacco seems non-existent. I'm not sure if RJR has a clamp on most of the growing around here or what. I was hoping to come across a little farm that does some tobacco on the side but no luck so far. From what I've seen from reviews here and there on additive free tobaccos my choices are down to Kentucky Select (as mentioned), Canoe brands, and Golden Harvest. Still, being additive free doens't mean that it's grown without pesticides or other chemicals which is a bit disconcerting. Is AS the only one that is certified organic?

I've been smoking PUEBLO these past six months and find it very enjoyable as tobacco goes. On the 30g pouch (just over an ounce), it says "100% leaf tobacco produced without additives", so I take that definition as being organic. Pueblo is manufactured in the European Union and marketed by a German company. It also says "PUEBLO is a traditional blend of North American Virginia tobaccos which are grown under natural conditions also by North American Indians." I'm still trying to figure out what they mean by "also by North American Indians".

I was told by the gentleman who was selling tobacco that if it says "no additives" on the pouch (tin, carton, package) it does NOT include no pesticides. The only ones who you can guarantee use no pesticides say "organic" on them. Where I am, the New England area, the only tobacco that says organic on it is American Spirit.

fwiw

 

[seek10]

It's strikes me as odd that even though I live in tobacco country, in the home of RJR, local tobacco seems non-existent. I'm not sure if RJR has a clamp on most of the growing around here or what. I was hoping to come across a little farm that does some tobacco on the side but no luck so far. From what I've seen from reviews here and there on additive free tobaccos my choices are down to Kentucky Select (as mentioned), Canoe brands, and Golden Harvest. Still, being additive free doens't mean that it's grown without pesticides or other chemicals which is a bit disconcerting. Is AS the only one that is certified organic?

I've been smoking PUEBLO these past six months and find it very enjoyable as tobacco goes. On the 30g pouch (just over an ounce), it says "100% leaf tobacco produced without additives", so I take that definition as being organic. Pueblo is manufactured in the European Union and marketed by a German company. It also says "PUEBLO is a traditional blend of North American Virginia tobaccos which are grown under natural conditions also by North American Indians." I'm still trying to figure out what they mean by "also by North American Indians".

I was told by the gentleman who was selling tobacco that if it says "no additives" on the pouch (tin, carton, package) it does NOT include no pesticides. The only ones who you can guarantee use no pesticides say "organic" on them. Where I am, the New England area, the only tobacco that says organic on it is American Spirit.

fwiw

As per American spirit brochures, Only Organic is pesticide free.

 

[Bidoche]

It's strikes me as odd that even though I live in tobacco country, in the home of RJR, local tobacco seems non-existent. I'm not sure if RJR has a clamp on most of the growing around here or what. I was hoping to come across a little farm that does some tobacco on the side but no luck so far. From what I've seen from reviews here and there on additive free tobaccos my choices are down to Kentucky Select (as mentioned), Canoe brands, and Golden Harvest. Still, being additive free doens't mean that it's grown without pesticides or other chemicals which is a bit disconcerting. Is AS the only one that is certified organic?

I've been smoking PUEBLO these past six months and find it very enjoyable as tobacco goes. On the 30g pouch (just over an ounce), it says "100% leaf tobacco produced without additives", so I take that definition as being organic. Pueblo is manufactured in the European Union and marketed by a German company. It also says "PUEBLO is a traditional blend of North American Virginia tobaccos which are grown under natural conditions also by North American Indians." I'm still trying to figure out what they mean by "also by North American Indians".

I was told by the gentleman who was selling tobacco that if it says "no additives" on the pouch (tin, carton, package) it does NOT include no pesticides. The only ones who you can guarantee use no pesticides say "organic" on them. Where I am, the New England area, the only tobacco that says organic on it is American Spirit.

fwiw

I did a bit of checking and found the following quote:

"PUEBLO is a traditional blend of American Virginia tobaccos, grown under completely natural conditions by American Indians.

Like all tobacco, this high quality blend contains natural nicotine. However, the use of chemical fertilisers or pesticides is not permitted during the growing and harvesting of our tobacco leaf.
This philosophy is maintained during the manufacturing process. We do not add moisture retainers, preservatives or other chemicals to PUEBLO fine cut tobacco."

http://churchillsofnorwich.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=79

so I would consider Pueblo to be organic too, but on my pack there is no mention of fertilizers or pesticides not being used. Maybe it's just a marketing ploy?

 

[ScottD]

Thanks for the information on Pueblo. I'll see if I can find some in the US to at least try it out. I think Kentucky Select Organic (dual-purpose) is the only other "certified" organic that I can find. I wonder if the Pueblo tobacco is not labeled as organic purely because it is manufactured outside of the US and not applicable to FDA organic labels. It's sad that we have to have labels that tell us that something is natural and not toxic soup.

 

[Bidoche]

Thanks for the information on Pueblo. I'll see if I can find some in the US to at least try it out. I think Kentucky Select Organic (dual-purpose) is the only other "certified" organic that I can find. I wonder if the Pueblo tobacco is not labeled as organic purely because it is manufactured outside of the US and not applicable to FDA organic labels. It's sad that we have to have labels that tell us that something is natural and not toxic soup.

I get the impression that Pueblo will be very hard to find in the USA although I found out that Davidoff (cigars) in Stamford CT are the American importer.

Check out this list of RYO tobacco currently available where you live:
http://ryorevolution.com/ryo-tobacco-manufacturers.html

There's certainly not much in the way of organic smokeables.

 

[Mr. Premise]

Thanks for the information on Pueblo. I'll see if I can find some in the US to at least try it out. I think Kentucky Select Organic (dual-purpose) is the only other "certified" organic that I can find. I wonder if the Pueblo tobacco is not labeled as organic purely because it is manufactured outside of the US and not applicable to FDA organic labels. It's sad that we have to have labels that tell us that something is natural and not toxic soup.

There are a lot of food growers who use organic techniques but who haven't gotten certification. Certification is VERY difficult from what I hear.

 

[Jacques]

Thanks for the information on Pueblo. I'll see if I can find some in the US to at least try it out. I think Kentucky Select Organic (dual-purpose) is the only other "certified" organic that I can find. I wonder if the Pueblo tobacco is not labeled as organic purely because it is manufactured outside of the US and not applicable to FDA organic labels. It's sad that we have to have labels that tell us that something is natural and not toxic soup.

There are a lot of food growers who use organic techniques but who haven't gotten certification. Certification is VERY difficult from what I hear.

Not only difficult but quite expensive too.

 

[cdh4r]

hope i'm not too late in helping you out! if you have any other questions just ask and i promise to get back to you sooner than a month this time!!!

Chance

No problemo! It was a process in searching things out. I ended up not going w/pipe tobacco, mainly because of the prices and having to buy online (no decent pipe tobaccos in my local shoppe.) I found something else--cigarillos called 'Supreme Cigars' that are tasty, smooth and have no additives or FSC in the paper. So far, I am liking them. Thank you for all the information, I'm sure others will benefit from what you posted. Happy smokin'

Your welcome and no problem!!!

 

[cdh4r]

Thanks for the information on Pueblo. I'll see if I can find some in the US to at least try it out. I think Kentucky Select Organic (dual-purpose) is the only other "certified" organic that I can find. I wonder if the Pueblo tobacco is not labeled as organic purely because it is manufactured outside of the US and not applicable to FDA organic labels. It's sad that we have to have labels that tell us that something is natural and not toxic soup.

i've done quite a bit of searching myself but to no avail. like you, i've only found that kentucky select organic to be the only organic brand on the market.

 

[Aeneas]

Suddenly, about 3 weeks ago, I lost the desire to smoke, but did it anyway, and found that I became quite dizzy and nauseous. Really, it was like an episode of vertigo if I tried to stand up and walk! So, I stopped.

Hi Solarmother. Not being a smoker apart from the odd cigarette over the past few months, I decided to smoke a cigar that a friend had given me a few days earlier, while reading the pages of comments to the latest session with the C's. When finished smoking I was dizzy and nauseous and feeling quite unwell. So I decided to lie down and do some breathing and the POTS. That cleared it all away. So in case it happens again, EE can work as the antidote

 

[SolarMother]

Suddenly, about 3 weeks ago, I lost the desire to smoke, but did it anyway, and found that I became quite dizzy and nauseous. Really, it was like an episode of vertigo if I tried to stand up and walk! So, I stopped.

Hi Solarmother. Not being a smoker apart from the odd cigarette over the past few months, I decided to smoke a cigar that a friend had given me a few days earlier, while reading the pages of comments to the latest session with the C's. When finished smoking I was dizzy and nauseous and feeling quite unwell. So I decided to lie down and do some breathing and the POTS. That cleared it all away. So in case it happens again, EE can work as the antidote

Hi Aeneas! Thank you for that information. That is so great!
If I ever feel that nausea and dizzyness again smoking, I will do EE.
At the top of page 3 of this thread I did post that I found a cigarillo I like that doesn't seem to affect me in the way the cigarettes (AS) did, so I am back at it again, even if only 2 cigarillos a day.
Good to know that someone else is also enjoying cigars!

 

[SunEterna]

Hello.
I cannot smoke anymore. It gives me a sore throat. Even the smoke of the cigarettes in the air of a room (from "natural" tobacco), hurts my throat (and i don't tell you when i have a cold, this is an aggression). And i smoke for two years. I cannot smoke, also, because i become too addictive with it, even if it's additive free (;)).
My body told me to stop, so i stopped.
This is hard, because my woman is a heavy smoker... i cannot stand being in the same room with her...
So, i asked myself, combustion creates carbon monoxide and a lot of different other compounds, so, maybe, i cannot stand being exposed to them.
Well, see you.