Benjamin
The Living Force
I had a thought after posting this. It's like the white dot in the black half of the Yin/Yang swirl.
Freedom Trucker Convoy: From Canada to USA to all across the world
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I had a thought after posting this. It's like the white dot in the black half of the Yin/Yang swirl.
psychegram
The Living Force
Legally, it is more of a privilege than a right to enter a private establishment, but there's nuance. It's generally not legal to prohibit a class of people from entering due to their membership in a class. You can't say, no blacks, no gays, etc. You can say, this particular individual is a known jerk, and is banned from the premises. Or, similarly, one can say: this attire is necessary (no shirt, no shoes, no service).
Vaxx passes essentially assume the second theory applies, ie not being vaxxed is equivalent to not wearing a shirt, rather than equivalent to being a member of a class.
Of course one can easily turn this around on the demented by asking them how they'd like it if businesses started banning the vaccinated. But that would require that they're capable of reason. Which in their current state, they aren't.
Carlos Alberto
Padawan Learner
Arguing that going into a store is a privilege and not a right is a good example of paralogic. Sure, if I own a private exclusive club I can choose the members and for them it is a privilege to join. But if a store owner wants my business then we have a right to do business with each other. Why does the government have the power to prohibit me from going into the store of a private citizen who wants my business?
Another example of the paralogic of the zombies is the argument that the government is not taking away our rights and freedom because it was our choice not to get vaccinated and we have to accept the consequences of that choice. Of course, this is a false choice: do you want to lose the right not to be injected with a mystery juice or do you want to lose the right to work and travel and go to public places? So, if somebody puts a gun to your head and says: give me your money or I"ll shoot you. And you give him your money, then it was your choice and there was no wrong doing, right? Pure stupidity.
Benjamin
The Living Force
After thinking about it, I should have wrote that there were more people gathering at Achesen this weekend compared to last weekend to go to Edmonton. Although, it seems from this report, that about the same number of people (~2000) attended this rally, according to police estimates.
Protesters against COVID-19 restrictions snarl downtown Edmonton traffic, force businesses to close for the day
For the second week in a row, hundreds of people and vehicles flooded downtown streets to support Ottawa 'freedom convoy' demonstrations, prompting some businesses to close for the day.
But then you get this from the mayor of Edmonton:
Even though:
Thank you Laurentien for the pictures and your comments. You are, by the way, a beautiful couple in front of the Parlement. Thank you, thank you!
dredger
The Living Force
Telegram link with a passage of 24s of a zoom conference where the Ottawa police Chief admits 2 facts :
Here's a copy/past of the english part of the telegram post :
️️Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly admits on City Council livestream that the Mayor and his staff were responsible for getting the GoFundMe program shut down 
️️They are now going after supplies and fuel coming into the area.
There's also a link to the whole zoom conference on youtube (which last a bit less than 2h)
Seems that this "idea" that pop'ed into @candasiri 's mind + mine at almost the same time yesterday (and maybe other here) looks like valid. What i did not detailed in my previous post is that, when i wrote the sentence :
Here's a copy/past of the english part of the telegram post :
️️Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly admits on City Council livestream that the Mayor and his staff were responsible for getting the GoFundMe program shut down ️️They are now going after supplies and fuel coming into the area.There's also a link to the whole zoom conference on youtube (which last a bit less than 2h)
Seems that this "idea" that pop'ed into @candasiri 's mind + mine at almost the same time yesterday (and maybe other here) looks like valid. What i did not detailed in my previous post is that, when i wrote the sentence :
.. the "bastard" put in parenthesis is not from me, i only transcribed what came to my mind, like ... hearing/stealing another's thought ... difficult to explain better.
Benjamin
The Living Force
Just listening to a bit of the original video and a few other things said were interesting.
- (13:09 - 13:42) Counsellor Diane Deans: "They are terrorizing our residents... This group is a threat to our democracy... This is a nation wide insurrection. This is madness." (She is the one who called the meeting. Listening to this lady's opening, you get the sense that she's the type to rule with an iron fist.)
Police Chief Peter Sloly:
- Another 60 cops to be sworn in after the meeting to be sent straight to the protest area.
- Officers are tired, some "on their knees". Haven't had a day off in ~14 days.
- Calls for considerably more resources.
- (33:14) Admits that: "There's something that's changed in the democratic fabric of the nation. We have to anticipate that there will be similar type of, my words 'demonstrations', your word [from a counsellor named Sharron (Deans?)] 'insurrection', that could afflict the nations capital year in and year out. We do not have the legislation under the current Police Services Act, we do not have the resources under what is now currently described as adequate/effective policing resources, and we do not have the Justice system framework or the multilateral agreements between three levels of government in order for us to predictably and effectively manage such situations going forward."
I stopped watching after this cause I have some other things to do.
