French Presidential Elections 2017: Fillon vs Macron vs Le Pen

I've kept watching also the expat voting public in Quebec who lined up (there were problems in the first round with voting). There are 85,000 odd expats eligible to vote in Quebec:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/french-election-montreal-runoff-long-lines-1.4103179

French expats wait in long lines to cast ballot in Montreal

French expats lined up for hours in the rain in Montreal to cast a ballot in their country's pivotal presidential runoff between centrist Emmanuel Macron and far-right Marine Le Pen.

Similar to the first round of voting, there was only one polling station in the city open to French citizens eligible to vote. Of the 85,000 eligible French voters in Canada, the vast majority of them were registered to vote here.

The French Consulat promised better voting conditions this time, including separate lines for expecting mothers and voters with disabilities after the first round of voting spurred complaints...
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Second round:
According to first estimates: 26% abstention. Between 10% and 13% of blank or spoiled ballots. Which means only 28 to 29,5 millions out of 46 millions electors have actually voted for one or the other candidate. Macron is said to lead with 60%. How many votes for Macron? Do the maths.
 
I only have time to write my feeling about the debate Macron/Le Pen now.

I think Macron win because:
- She played the aggressive one and him the guy in control
- She was constantly searching approval from the animators (eyes looking on the left) while he constantly look at her
- She was completely confuse on the Europe subject
- She was searching in her folders while he doesn't need (there are articles on the net saying he had an earpiece)
- Attacking him make talking of him instead her program
- Close to the end of the debate the animators said to the participants they have a white card to expose a measure of their choice they would apply. She attacked Macron, once again and finally, asked again by an animator, said something like: "I have no measure to explain for the white card". What !!!??
- She adopt a defensive posture close of the end of the debate (crossed arms)

For me she appear as she does not really want to be in command of the country, just here to disrupt. She was not at the level to confront with a psycho. Perhaps she felt in a trap because someone of Macron team announced before the debate that Macron will leave the debate after 30min if Le Pen aggressed him. If she's enough stupid to be fooled by such trick, she must be a poor advocate (her schooling) and her team should have read Sott. It was incredible how Macron never gave away, constantly answering to have the last word by using rhetoric. A machine yes or very a well trained man.
 
On Belgian press, Macron is given to be the winner with 63%
 

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Ellipse said:
I only have time to write my feeling about the debate Macron/Le Pen now.

I think Macron win because:
- She played the aggressive one and him the guy in control
- She was constantly searching approval from the animators (eyes looking on the left) while he constantly look at her
- She was completely confuse on the Europe subject
- She was searching in her folders while he doesn't need (there are articles on the net saying he had an earpiece)
- Attacking him make talking of him instead her program
- Close to the end of the debate the animators said to the participants they have a white card to expose a measure of their choice they would apply. She attacked Macron, once again and finally, asked again by an animator, said something like: "I have no measure to explain for the white card". What !!!??
- She adopt a defensive posture close of the end of the debate (crossed arms)

For me she appear as she does not really want to be in command of the country, just here to disrupt. She was not at the level to confront with a psycho. Perhaps she felt in a trap because someone of Macron team announced before the debate that Macron will leave the debate after 30min if Le Pen aggressed him. If she's enough stupid to be fooled by such trick, she must be a poor advocate (her schooling) and her team should have read Sott. It was incredible how Macron never gave away, constantly answering to have the last word by using rhetoric. A machine yes or very a well trained man.
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Whatever would have been her performances, the final result would have been the same: it's not the population who votes but the PTB
 
Don't know how they calculate the 65%. I you look here: http://lamarseillaise.soraelections.fr/ real time result give 59% vs 41%
 
Ellipse said:
Don't know how they calculate the 65%. I you look here: http://lamarseillaise.soraelections.fr/ real time result give 59% vs 41%
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See the screenshot below Ellipse.
 

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Those "results" came with the speed of light!. On RT they are saying that so far only 20% of the votes are counted, but I can't find any information on that.
 
Aragorn said:
Those "results" came with the speed of light!. On RT they are saying that so far only 20% of the votes are counted, but I can't find any information on that.
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Yeah, that's normal. In all elections they start reporting around the 20% count very early on. Normally, just with that relatively small sample they can assume who won, even if the numbers may change a bit later. Statistically, it is very difficult for the projected outcome to change in the final count - unless the difference between the candidates is very close, like 1 or 2%. But with around 20 pts difference like it is now, it is virtually impossible. Thus, Le Pen's congratulating Macron already.
 
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