Game of Thrones Tv Show

I watched the second season on DVD. More of the same but expanding quite a lot into the fantasy/supernatural direction, which may or may not be as interesting. Yes, the appearance of the comet got me to raise an eyebrow. Though nothing was said about it (unless I missed it), I wonder if it will play some significant role.
 
PopHistorian said:
I watched the second season on DVD. More of the same but expanding quite a lot into the fantasy/supernatural direction, which may or may not be as interesting. Yes, the appearance of the comet got me to raise an eyebrow. Though nothing was said about it (unless I missed it), I wonder if it will play some significant role.

Actually, in books, this comet is pretty relevant; each main personnage looks at it with his own believes and always as a prophecy. Some says it will be blood and war, others see the arrival of dragons, etc. By reading books at this time, I am surprised to discover after watched the two seasons (and while I am looking at the third) that this comet is not very relevant in the TV show...
And of course, winter is coming...
 
MK Scarlett said:
PopHistorian said:
I watched the second season on DVD. More of the same but expanding quite a lot into the fantasy/supernatural direction, which may or may not be as interesting. Yes, the appearance of the comet got me to raise an eyebrow. Though nothing was said about it (unless I missed it), I wonder if it will play some significant role.

Actually, in books, this comet is pretty relevant; each main personnage looks at it with his own believes and always as a prophecy. Some says it will be blood and war, others see the arrival of dragons, etc. By reading books at this time, I am surprised to discover after watched the two seasons (and while I am looking at the third) that this comet is not very relevant in the TV show...
And of course, winter is coming...

I haven't seen much of the tv show but in the book (I forget which one) the comet is referred to many times. I read the last book a while ago .... and I hope this isn't too much of a spoiler .....

but he made no mention of it. It seems like it was kinda just forgotten.
 
MK Scarlett said:
PopHistorian said:

I watched the second season on DVD. More of the same but expanding quite a lot into the fantasy/supernatural direction, which may or may not be as interesting. Yes, the appearance of the comet got me to raise an eyebrow. Though nothing was said about it (unless I missed it), I wonder if it will play some significant role.


Actually, in books, this comet is pretty relevant; each main personnage looks at it with his own believes and always as a prophecy. Some says it will be blood and war, others see the arrival of dragons, etc. By reading books at this time, I am surprised to discover after watched the two seasons (and while I am looking at the third) that this comet is not very relevant in the TV show...
And of course, winter is coming...



There are a couple of things that I find interesting in relation to the comet. After stumbling across the series quite by accident, then watching it and reading the books, what stood out to me were two things. One, is in relation to Daenerys. She starts to receive drams in regards to her unknown history and bloodline and the dragon eggs. All of the symbolisim relates her to Epona or the Grugrauch. She is even the Kaleesi ( Queen) of a horse centered clan, which relate to that theme. She is known as Daenerys "Stormborn". Of course, in Laura's books we know that comets and dragons and "people of the blood" all tie in together. In the transformation scene, (h
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8zYeN9z8XY), it also ties in not to the symbolism of Epona and Grugrauch ( see Gog Magog thread -(http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,9338.0.html), but also it is heavily laden with alchemical symbolism . The middle of Drogo's funeral pyre is also an octagon, although a bit elongated, which also matches the middle of the infinity crop circle in the Gog Magog thread. It also reminds one of the pryf releasing the dragon spawn:


http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,23033.msg251201.html#msg251201


Q: Now, on a couple of occasions we have talked about trees. You have said that the trees would lead me to an answer. Then you made remarks about beechnut, and oaks, and beech and bloodlines and family trees and the Nordic Covenant. Basically, I asked about this Nordic Covenant and you said that I would find the answer, that the trees would lead me to it. I asked what literary source I should go to to find the least distorted source of information. You answered "trees" again. Then, you pointed out the leaves of the trees on this book. Later, when I read the book that was all about trees, it said that there was a need for someone of a certain bloodline to come along and free the dragon spawn. "None other than she can bring the pryf, or soul, up from the deep, no matter how they may make the serpents squirm. If she can hold her place in the gates of time." You answered me "You cannot see?" It also says that this person with this certain bloodline has the duty of creating a bridge between man and the gods to open the doorways of time. You said to me that these things had explanations that were readily apparent. Then, when I asked the question about this book and all the trees in it, that this was a clue given so that I would notice the things in this particular book, you said "certainly." Now, having gone through all the shamanic stuff, all the information about the world tree, the world axis, and your remarks about building a staircase, which is another variation on the world axis or world tree, and having some kind of mission, and the mission being piercing the spider, which relates again to the world axis and the world tree, which one climbs one step at a time. Then, you talked about Jack and the Beanstalk, which is another example of the world tree. Over and over again we are having all these representations of trees which basically has something to do with some sort of destined action, and it is almost as though you are hinting that some person has to be physically tuned as a transducer of some sort to "stand in the gates of time," for the rest of humanity. Then, you made the remark recently about lodestar. Well, there might have been a time in my life when I might have thought that it was me who could do something like that. And, if I ever did, maybe it was even ego thinking. However, I am getting a little old for that sort of thing, so I don't really think that it is my role. But, I do think that there is somebody in the world whose role that is, and I would like to know if that is somebody we are supposed to be looking for, or that we are going to find this person?A: Perhaps you shall find, or perhaps they will find you!Q: Well, it kind of takes the burden off my shoulders. I think that somebody who does something like that is never useful for anything again. Somebody who does such a thing is like a sacrifice. They have to give their life up for others to act as this transducer and it fries all their circuits. Can you comment?A: No.Q: Am I correct that somebody who does this is basically sacrificing themselves and they get fried in the process?A: In some instances.Q: But, it is true that we are looking for somebody who will stand in the gates of time and act as a bridge?
A: Maybe. You shall see...



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The books reference the appearance of the comet to the appearance of dragons. Then also, the " Undying" or evil magicians, only get their power from the birth of the dragons. They kidnap Daenerys and the dragons to control and use them to fuel their power in season two. That reminds me of controlling those with higher centers to harness their creative powers. -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMvzfPDM3m0

All subjective of course, but uncanny.
 
I don't like it :P I prefer the walking dead, zombies and the worse of them that are psychopaths trying to abuse the survivors. And I get annoyed by the erotic scenes, i got the idea that those are used to keep people interested (sex sells pretty good).

My favorite character whatsoever is the little guy, that man got some personality hehe
 
Prometeo said:
I don't like it :P I prefer the walking dead, zombies and the worse of them that are psychopaths trying to abuse the survivors. And I get annoyed by the erotic scenes, i got the idea that those are used to keep people interested (sex sells pretty good).

My favorite character whatsoever is the little guy, that man got some personality hehe


The sex scenes can be over the top and shocking, but the dynamics are interesting if you can look past the actual act.


For example, with Daenerys and Drogo, you initially have the rape of femininity if looking at the archetype. That particular scene upset me, actually, but the graphic nature of it I think really brought it home. That is followed later by her having him look her in the eye and developing a very deep love and respect for each other though.


The Lannisters, the most psychopathic of all, is mainly focused around brother/sister incest, and the mad little psycho king Geoffrey is the worst the result.


Your favorite, the dwarf Tyrion Lannister, is loved for who is really is by two prostitutes, but it is not allowed due to his noble birth within the psychopathic family he is born into.
 
I am currently reading the fifth book of A Song of Ice and Fire.

I think this is one of the best fantasy series I have ever read in my life. I have never been a fan of action movies or stories including bloody flights and sexual manipulations, but the story of the game of thrones has got much more than that.

What always amazes me is how George Martin writes each characters' dialogs with its own uniqueness. He is a really good writer/entertainer with lots of creativity. Most of the characters think and act in a way that I would never do, and I think that is what makes the story very interesting.

I think TV series are also well done, but it is not as good as books, because does not give you an oppotunities to understand what is really going on in each character's mind.
 
Aya said:
I am currently reading the fifth book of A Song of Ice and Fire.

I think this is one of the best fantasy series I have ever read in my life. I have never been a fan of action movies or stories including bloody flights and sexual manipulations, but the story of the game of thrones has got much more than that.

What always amazes me is how George Martin writes each characters' dialogs with its own uniqueness. He is a really good writer/entertainer with lots of creativity. Most of the characters think and act in a way that I would never do, and I think that is what makes the story very interesting.

I think TV series are also well done, but it is not as good as books, because does not give you an oppotunities to understand what is really going on in each character's mind.

How true this is! Actually, by reading books, we have access to thoughts, dreams and memories of each major character, which is not shared in the TV show. It is the fondamental difference between both. And how important it is, as psychological and archetypal messages...
 
Daenerys said:
Prometeo said:
I don't like it :P I prefer the walking dead, zombies and the worse of them that are psychopaths trying to abuse the survivors. And I get annoyed by the erotic scenes, i got the idea that those are used to keep people interested (sex sells pretty good).

My favorite character whatsoever is the little guy, that man got some personality hehe


The sex scenes can be over the top and shocking, but the dynamics are interesting if you can look past the actual act.


For example, with Daenerys and Drogo, you initially have the rape of femininity if looking at the archetype. That particular scene upset me, actually, but the graphic nature of it I think really brought it home. That is followed later by her having him look her in the eye and developing a very deep love and respect for each other though.


The Lannisters, the most psychopathic of all, is mainly focused around brother/sister incest, and the mad little psycho king Geoffrey is the worst the result.


Your favorite, the dwarf Tyrion Lannister, is loved for who is really is by two prostitutes, but it is not allowed due to his noble birth within the psychopathic family he is born into.

wow looks like... interesting, i've just seen two episodes, i want to watch them all but lately haven't had enough time to concentrate on it
 
The following are two very powerful scenes that ya'll might enjoy. ( loosely alchemically related )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4PPWYCqPKo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYqa3eAAYNI
 
Here is one yall might enjoy too- the "crowning" of the false king


[Mod's note: Link removed due to graphic nature of video]
 
Cyndi said:
Here is one yall might enjoy too- the "crowning" of the false king

Cyndi, posting video clips of violent scenes from TV shows is not something that would be considered "forum material". It would be noise. I don't know if you consider this "loosely alchemically related" or not, but if so, no. It's just a scene showing a really violent death. I think at this point it would be best if you took a break from posting regarding any of your video/music associations and any other random associations you make, as they are amounting to merely noise and do not contribute to this forum.
 
Heimdallr said:
Cyndi said:
Here is one yall might enjoy too- the "crowning" of the false king

Cyndi, posting video clips of violent scenes from TV shows is not something that would be considered "forum material". It would be noise. I don't know if you consider this "loosely alchemically related" or not, but if so, no. It's just a scene showing a really violent death. I think at this point it would be best if you took a break from posting regarding any of your video/music associations and any other random associations you make, as they are amounting to merely noise and do not contribute to this forum.


As you wish. As the C's said - "you're in your own boat". I respect your request.
 
Since my wife started reading the novels, we started watching the TV show too.

I really like it so far, since I like the genre - a fictional middle-age setting is a great setting to study/portray human interactions and various archetypes. It is very well done and I have to admit that after being "TV-free" for such a long time, some (hopefully) positive dissociation is a lot of fun.

Mrs. Tigersoap said:
I could do without some of the raunchy sex scenes as well. There is at least one in every episode and most of them bring nothing whatsoever to the story. I get that they want to portrait how depraved, sex-driven, etc. the characters are but a nod here and there would be enough imo. Some characters (mostly women) must not cost a lot in terms of wardrobe... :lol:

Call me conservative, but I also found the sex scenes extremely disturbing. I think you cannot produce a mainstream TV show without putting in there some serious "mind programming". My wife said that in the books, sex doesn't play a large role and is usually dealt with in a few sentences.

The show, however, kind of gets the message across (at least for those receptive to it) that all kinds of perversions and sex addictions are perfectly "normal". The most disturbing thing to me was that prostitutes are portrayed as happy, beautiful girls who just like to have some fun (yeah right). At least in the first season, I don't know if it will continue like that...
 
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