I seriously doubt there are many troops left to retreat from Kursk. Russia's tactics akin to killing fish in a barrel.
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And this is entirely understood by the European arm of the WEF gang in the E.U., see the immediate reaction after Trump election win.
Von der Leyen to prepare EU for war – defense commission nominee
One of the priorities for the next European Commission will be preparing Europe for war, according to the EU’s top defense nominee
How much the Trump win is an obstacle to projected plan for the near future? If they were in a desperate mode before to attain full control of the planet prior to the wave, they must be panicking I think and they may know that 4 more years with Trump as president will greatly minimise their chance of achieving this goal. So is the article above showing the first sign of this panic in European elite who realise that maybe the American GI won’t be coming to save their hide if they start their plan to bring total chaos in Europe. Remember what the C’s told us many years ago that eventually, everyone will speak English in the E.U.
I’m very happy for Trump is win but have serious doubt that they will let him live to the inauguration. STS do not accept defeat easily and may have realised the perilous situation that Trump win brought to their plan. Was it why the C’s told us last session that we have certifiable, insane persons in position of power? They probably knew that Trump would win and saw these insane persons reaction and what they are ready to do to hold on to power and it show as well, how important the US under a democrat government is for achieving the globalist goal of global control. Time will tell and in this case, we won’t have long to wait, just a couple of months.
If it was important to pray for Trump is safety before the election, it is as important if not more than before now, I think.
In opposition to the other Russian analyst I cited (didn't catch his name) Dmitry Trenin thinks that Pentagon plans will remain basically unchanged under Trump. Both Trump and JD Vance has made statements suggesting that Team America World Police will be put to rest. But for Trenin, No MAGA/BRICS+ alignment, in economic or in military terms.
www.rt.com
Dmitry Trenin: Here’s what Trump’s victory means for the US, Russia and the world
The Repubican has defeated an enormous propaganda campaign in a massive blow to liberal globalists
Neither Russian nor analyst. It was a Finnish journalist Janus Putkonen, MV-Lehti Chief Editor. You know, despite not being Russian, he still is Russian propagandist. ;)
Keeping up with the Trump overload, time for another great, even if speculative at this point, bird's eye possibilities overview.
Skipping the domestic part, it can be read in the original article. After the US, it covers Europe, Russia and China. South America, Africa and a big part of Asia are unfortunately not covered, although Niemi analised China-India rapprochement, including in a wider context, on November 4.
Assessing preliminary consequences of US presidential elections
Skipping the domestic part, it can be read in the original article. After the US, it covers Europe, Russia and China. South America, Africa and a big part of Asia are unfortunately not covered, although Niemi analised China-India rapprochement, including in a wider context, on November 4.
Assessing preliminary consequences of US presidential elections
November 10, 2024 | Seppo Niemi
Some notes in great power politics, “Trumpquake”
As a well-known independent geopolitical analyst, Pepe Escobar, has stated: “Fasten your seatbelts: whatever happens, Trumpquake is bound to be a bumpy ride”.
With a massive victory in the US presidential election, Donald Trump can now claim a powerful mandate to implement his agenda, both foreign and domestic. Some analysts have focused the key foreign policy issue in the following way: “a grand bargain with Putin and hard pivot to China”.
The global implications of a confident and unchained Trump 2.0 will depend very much on what foreign policy path he charts and who he decides to appoint to key positions. With that in mind, there may be three possible paths a Trump administration might take on the world stage.
America First, with compromises. Having trumpeted his credentials as a peacemaker, it is possible Trump returns the US to a position of isolationism and exceptionalism, essentially being a friend and enemy to no one. That could mean either withdrawing completely from NATO or making US security assistance so conditional on transatlantic allies that Europe is essentially captive to his whims.
Robust Pivot to Asia. A confrontational approach to China, coupled with his frustration with America’s European allies, whom he believes are freeriding on US defense spending, may lead him to pivot to Asia instead. An endless trade war may require a bargain with China. If Trump does abandon America’s NATO allies, it remains to be seen how even its closest Asian partners would regard his commitment to their security or his ability to manage crises in the region.
Peace through strength. A third option would be for Trump to channel former US President Ronald Reagan, seeking to restore and maintain global US primacy. America would lead, but do so pragmatically – and with allies whose interests aligned with its own.
Regional overview
With Donald Trump returning to the White House in January 2025, Washington’s approach to the Ukraine conflict may undergo significant changes. Here it is important to look at statements by future Vice President J.D. Vance. He clearly said that they need to protect their own borders, not the Ukrainian ones. Kiev has been pushed to the back burner. This does not mean that they will simply leave it hanging. The US has a rather strong political elite, including military circles, which certainly wants everything to continue. Yet even the military wants the money to be headed their way, above all, and not to the Ukrainian.
Additionally, new differences of opinion are possible in the US’ relations with the EU and NATO allies. Europe ups defense spending but still relies on the US. A new report highlights significant gaps in Europe’s defenses, amid growing concerns about the impact of a second Trump presidency on the NATO security alliance and transatlantic defense.
Germany’s governing “traffic light” coalition, comprised of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), the Free Democratic Party (FDP) and Alliance 90/The Greens, has dissolved. On January 15, 2025 Chancellor Olaf Scholz will call a vote of confidence in the Bundestag. A no-confidence vote could lead to early parliamentary elections in March 2025. The causes of the coalition’s collapse lie in its very composition. However, as the Ukraine conflict dragged on, Germany became more involved by increasing aid to Kiev and all of this was accompanied by growing economic problems domestically.
The reshaping of policy toward China is also possible, for instance, intensifying pressure on Beijing and initiating new trade wars. The prospects of dialogue with North Korea remain unclear.
As a rather pro-Israeli politician, Trump may increase support for the Jewish state while trying to facilitate the settlement of the Middle Eastern conflict. The process of normalization in that region, however, will be complex due to Trump’s anti-Iranian stance observed during his first presidential term.
Europe and the EU
A shocking proof of massive manipulation by European mainstream (legacy) media regarding the public opinion formation in various European countries. The difference between average American voting citizen and European citizen is extremely striking.
This is indeed 100% the result of mass brainwashing by the legacy media in Europe. The EU Commission knows that and that’s why they’re attacking Elon and his X-social media.
GERMAN GOVERNMENT COLLAPSED BECAUSE OF UKRAINE!
Scholz is now ruling Germany with a minority in the parliament. Germany ran out of money to support Ukraine and is legally prevented to make more debt, that caused a clash within the government and it collapsed. There is a “debt break” law, that prevents the German government to take on debt beyond an allowed sum, which Germany exhaust already.
So, Scholz demanded from the finance minister to suspend the law and allow the take on more debt to pay for and send to Ukraine. The plan was to just make more debt for Ukraine. But the finance minister refused to do that. Scholz fired the finance minister Lindner for not obeying his wish. The party of the finance minister FDP, in reaction retracted from the ruling government
Looks like Scholz wants to push through the Ukraine funding no matter what. The opposition demands new elections quickly but Scholz wants to govern with the support of the opposition for now. It is a clown show. For now, the elections are rumored to come in March 2025. The “collective west” collapses on the back of Ukraine. The US with Trump may step back from this nonsense.
Trump’s allies in Europe hope the president-elect will quickly end the war in Ukraine — and boost their standing on the EU stage. Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán vowed to pop several bottles of Champagne if his friend, Donald Trump, won the US presidential election.
The conservative populist has long insisted that he and a growing number of his European allies would ultimately find themselves on the winning side of history with agendas that are hostile to immigration and Ukraine and committed to traditional Christian family values.
In addition to Orbán, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer are both ideologically close to Trump — although Meloni does not share Orbán’s pro-Russian stance. The Dutch ruling coalition is backed by Geert Wilders, an anti-Islam, anti-immigrant, populist politician. Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico is locked in a rule-of-law dispute with Brussels, like Orbán, and shares the Hungarian’s pro-Russian leanings. That cadre of potential wreckers is likely to be joined next year by Andrej Babiš, who is expected to return to power in the Czech Republic in elections next year.
Macron and Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski argued on Wednesday that Trump’s return to the White House should push Europe to take greater responsibility for its own security. A few days before the vote, the Polish prime minister wrote on X that the era of “geopolitical outsourcing” was coming to an end.
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban believes that US President-elect Donald Trump will cease funding military efforts in Ukraine, which could assist in peacefully resolving the conflict in that country. Discussing the Ukraine crisis, he reaffirmed that Hungary supports resolving it entirely through peaceful means and maintains that the primary barrier to progress is the “lack of interaction.” Budapest has repeatedly emphasized the need to keep communication channels with Moscow open, urging its EU counterparts to do the same.
November 10, The European Union will have to change its approach to the conflict in Ukraine as a result of Donald Trump’s victory at the presidential election in the US, Hungary’s Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said. “Europe stands on the threshold of sweeping changes,” the minister said. “The presidential election in the US changed the situation. It is obvious that the European strategy in respect of Ukraine, which has clearly failed, cannot be continued,” Szijjarto noted.
Elon Musk’s X platform was already proving a tough test for the European Union’s efforts to police social media. Donald Trump’s reelection just raised the stakes, giving the tech tycoon some powerful backing that could fuel US-EU tensions. Musk is a “super genius,” Trump said in his victory speech in the early hours of Wednesday morning. “We have to protect our geniuses.”
That genius could be heading for a European Union fine, the first under its Digital Services Act (DSA), which aims to clamp down on illegal and toxic content online. X got EU charges in July for breaching those rules over verified users, advertising transparency and giving researchers access to data.
The UK
No doubt, the “especially close relations” between the US and the UK will be under heavy stress during Trump 2.0 administration. Some insulting Trump comments by Foreign Secretary of the UK, David Lammy, have further aggravated the situation.
Ukraine
Ukraine puts the tail between its legs and prepares to do what Trump says. Ukraine prepares for its new Trump era. The Parliament of Ukraine, the Rada, is calling on Donald Trump to help end the war in order to hold parliamentary elections. In a nutshell, Ukrainian MPs beg him to intervene in Ukraine’s internal affairs.
COL. Douglas Macgregor: Ukraine: A Collapse In Slow Motion.
Judge Napolitano, November 6, 2024
All the brave narratives, propagated by the western MSM have fading away; the “stalemate” narrative has collapsed, much like the Ukraine is winning narrative, the sanctions narrative, the Nord Stream narrative etc. – We are now permitted to recognize that we are losing the war without being smeared by the media for repeating “Kremlin talking points”.
Its Over For Ukraine | 3 Scenarios For The War Ending in 2025 With Trump Re-Election
Weeb Union, November 6, 2024
No Prospect Of Hope For Kiev Regime
South Front, November 7, 2024
Trump, Musk’s Secret Plan To End Ukraine Conflict🕊 Russia AcceleratesMilitary Summary 2024.11.09
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Russians Slice Through Kurakhove
China
In the first comment, China hopes for peaceful and mutually beneficial coexistence with the US, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Mao Ning said at a briefing, commenting on the US presidential election.
“China hopes for peaceful and stable coexistence with the US on the basis of mutual benefits and respect,” the spokeswoman said. She also noted that the current presidential election is a US domestic political issue, and indicated that China “respects any choice of the American people.”
Chinese President Xi Jinping on Thursday, November 7, extended congratulations to Donald Trump on his election as president of the United States. Xi urged the two countries to find the right way to get along in the new era, so as to benefit both countries and the wider world.
History teaches that China and the United States gain from cooperation and lose from confrontation, said Xi, noting that a stable, sound and sustainable China-U.S. relationship serves the two countries’ shared interests and meets the aspiration of the international community. He expressed the hope that the two sides will uphold the principles of mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation, strengthen dialogue and communication, properly manage differences and expand mutually beneficial cooperation.
On the same day, Chinese Vice President Han Zheng extended congratulations to J.D. Vance on his election as vice president of the United States.
Global Times, November 7, states
Where are China and the US headed? The Chinese side’s answer to this question, including its attitude toward China-US relations, has been consistent. Although the situations of both countries and their relationship have undergone significant changes, China’s commitment to the goal of a stable, healthy and sustainable China-US relationship remains unchanged; its principle in handling the relationship based on mutual respect, peaceful coexistence and win-win cooperation remains unchanged; its position of firmly safeguarding the country’s sovereignty, security and development interests remains unchanged; and its efforts to carry forward the traditional friendship between the Chinese and American people remain unchanged. The four “unchanged” aspects reflect both strategic clarity and a sense of responsibility.
The China-US relationship is the most important bilateral relationship in the world. How China and the US interact will determine the future and destiny of humanity. We hope that the US side will meet the Chinese side halfway to find the right way for two different civilizations, systems, and paths to coexist peacefully and develop together on this planet, promoting stability in China-US relations and striving for improvement and progress on this basis.
Russia
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday that it is not appropriate to discuss Trump’s future policy toward Russia, as the positions of presidential candidates during the campaign do not always align with their policies once they take office. Currently, US-Russia relations are at a historical low but the Russian side is open to dialogue, he said. “It is almost impossible to worsen the Russia-US ties further, as relations are at their historically lowest point. What happens next will depend on the next US leadership,” said Peskov.
Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov has not ruled out the possibility of Russian President Vladimir Putin holding talks with US President-elect Donald Trump ahead of his swearing-in ceremony. “It is not out of the question,” the spokesman told reporters when asked about the matter. “He did say he would call Putin before the inauguration. These are his words; we have nothing else to add for now,” he added. The United States Presidential Inauguration will be held on January 20, 2025.
November 8, Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a significant statement at the plenary session of the Valdai Discussion Club in Sochi. “The world has entered the long period of turbulence and changes that will eventually result in a multi-polar world order without hegemony of the West” he said. During the discussion, the Russian president spoke about Russia’s role in global development, dialogue with West, crisis in the global sports, Ukrainian reconciliation, relations with China and India. Putin’s statement can be seen as a official declaration for the future of great power relations.
Russian President Vladimir Putin’s congratulations to Donald Trump on winning this year’s presidential election in the United States can be viewed as official, Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov said. “Everything that the president says is official, of course,” he said.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has congratulated Donald Trump on becoming the US president-elect at the plenary session of the Valdai International Discussion Club on November 7. “I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate him on his victory in the US presidential election. I have already said that we will work with any head of state who is trusted by the American people,” the Russian leader said. So far, the Russian leader has not yet sent a congratulatory letter to the president-elect.
Epilogue
According to Deutsche Bank’s 2024 World Outlook, the year 2024 will see elections in countries covering around half the world’s population. The data is back over 200 years and this is the year with the biggest percentage of elections across the globe. The mains ones to watch are:
So, with the main events of 2024 now in the rearview mirror we can conclude that this has been a catastrophic year for incumbents at elections. Not just in the US, where Democrats have lost ground relative to four years earlier but incumbents have also lost ground in the UK, France, India, Japan and South Africa as well this year. According to Deutsche Bank, it’s also the first time since the late 1800s that the incumbent party in the White House has lost three consecutive presidential elections.
- The Taiwanese election in January 2024
- Indian elections in April/May
- European Parliamentary elections in June
- The US Presidential Election in November
According to Financial Times statistics, another surprising feature: every governing party facing election in a developed country this year lost vote share, the first time this has ever happened!
One thing is certain, that people everywhere are fed up with leaders, who put globalist agendas above their own citizens and are finally voting for leaders who actually serve them.
axj
The Living Force
More about the deep state factions and possible behind-the-scenes conflicts:
It looks like there are basically three major factions in the West:
1) The globalist faction (pursuing the "Great Reset", one world government, totalitarian control, depopulation, transhumanism)
2) The nationalist faction (eg. "American Empire" faction in the US, Orban's Hungary, AfD in Germany, Le Pen in France, etc.)
3) The zionist faction (have quite a lot of power in media, finance, politics, etc.)
I wondered for a while why some of the globalist-controlled EU governments have been so outspoken against Israel and the Zionists lately, while the nationalist leaders are pretty much all in the pro-Zionist camp (including Trump, Orban, AfD, Wilders, and so on).
My theory is that the globalist faction and the Zionist faction had a falling out, maybe regarding who gets how much power in the future. And it looks like the Zionists basically switched sides to the nationalist faction, maybe thinking that together they could take on the globalist faction - which maybe sees itself as powerful enough and not willing to share that power with the Zionists.
That seems to be why Orban (nationalist faction) invites Netanyahu despite the ICC arrest warrant against him, why many of the globalist-controlled countries in the EU and elsewhere say they will arrest Netanyahu or why US-Republicans (nationalist faction) even threaten to take military action against the Netherlands if Netanyahu is arrested.
The "irony" in all this is that the dystopian globalist faction actually has the moral high ground in this, at least as far as Israel's current genocidal expansionist wars go.
It looks like there are basically three major factions in the West:
1) The globalist faction (pursuing the "Great Reset", one world government, totalitarian control, depopulation, transhumanism)
2) The nationalist faction (eg. "American Empire" faction in the US, Orban's Hungary, AfD in Germany, Le Pen in France, etc.)
3) The zionist faction (have quite a lot of power in media, finance, politics, etc.)
I wondered for a while why some of the globalist-controlled EU governments have been so outspoken against Israel and the Zionists lately, while the nationalist leaders are pretty much all in the pro-Zionist camp (including Trump, Orban, AfD, Wilders, and so on).
My theory is that the globalist faction and the Zionist faction had a falling out, maybe regarding who gets how much power in the future. And it looks like the Zionists basically switched sides to the nationalist faction, maybe thinking that together they could take on the globalist faction - which maybe sees itself as powerful enough and not willing to share that power with the Zionists.
That seems to be why Orban (nationalist faction) invites Netanyahu despite the ICC arrest warrant against him, why many of the globalist-controlled countries in the EU and elsewhere say they will arrest Netanyahu or why US-Republicans (nationalist faction) even threaten to take military action against the Netherlands if Netanyahu is arrested.
The "irony" in all this is that the dystopian globalist faction actually has the moral high ground in this, at least as far as Israel's current genocidal expansionist wars go.
Saki
Jedi
Today (16 December) is the birthday of science fiction author Arthur C[harles] Clarke (1917) born in Minehead, Somerset, England. He was known as one of the “Big Three” of sci-fi, along with Robert A. Heinlein and Isaac Asimov. His best-known work is 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968).
In 2007, on his 90th birthday, Clarke recorded a video in which he says goodbye to his friends and fans. In it, he said: “I have great faith in optimism as a guiding principle, if only because it offers us the opportunity of creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. So I hope we’ve learnt something from the most barbaric century in history — the 20th. I would like to see us overcome our tribal divisions and begin to think and act as if we were one family. That would be real globalization.” He died of respiratory failure three months later.
(Bolded text is my emphasis.)
The Writer's Almanac 12/16
In 2007, on his 90th birthday, Clarke recorded a video in which he says goodbye to his friends and fans. In it, he said: “I have great faith in optimism as a guiding principle, if only because it offers us the opportunity of creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. So I hope we’ve learnt something from the most barbaric century in history — the 20th. I would like to see us overcome our tribal divisions and begin to think and act as if we were one family. That would be real globalization.” He died of respiratory failure three months later.
(Bolded text is my emphasis.)
The Writer's Almanac 12/16
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte can't explain the lie why NATO members must spend more just to prevent "Russian attack on NATO".
Saki
Jedi
Hi Nienna. Apologies for not responding sooner. I was off line for a time and am just getting back and found the post.
I guess I have to say that on my screen the font looked pretty large because I copied and pasted from Word. I didn't want to waste space so I reduced it.
I appreciate you pointing this out to me and I'll keep a watchful eye on size in future posts.
Thanks so much
A post claiming that China has already won the information war against the USA, with lots of things I didn't know. It ends with an interesting note describing how, despite this, American stability is in China's interests - for now.
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China's Art of War - Civilized Warfare with Chinese Characteristics thanks to the superstar China's reconnaissance ship 815A
China has already won the war at China's doorsteps.
It's not me saying it. It's the US defense secretary.
The statement was made by U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth in a November 2024 interview on The Shawn Ryan Show. He said, “So if our whole power projection platform is aircraft carriers and the ability to project power that way strategically around the globe... And if 15 hypersonic missiles [of China] can take out our 10 aircraft carriers in the first 20 minutes of a conflict, what does that look like?”
In reality, China doesn’t need to fire a single shot. One Type 815A reconnaissance ship is enough to get the job done.
Have you ever found it strange? For over a decade, the United States has been bent on containing and crushing China. Thousands of missiles surround China’s coastline. Military bases encircle it like a noose. And yet—China's coastline and the South China Sea has remained eerily quiet. Not a single shot fired. No major skirmish. Just drills, flybys, and declarations.
So what’s really going on?
The answer is uncomfortable for many: an intense, invisible ghost war has been raging beneath the surface—and China has already won it.
I’ll spell out the details for you.
China’s Eye in the Sky: A New Era of War Without Warning
1. High-Resolution Satellite Reconnaissance and Real-Time Data Transmission
In 2024, a rocket rose from the plains of Changchun, roaring into the stratosphere. Its cargo? Twelve satellites from the “Jilin-1” constellation—small, civilian on paper, but lethal in capability. Each one carries the world's most advanced commercially available optical payload, boasting a jaw-dropping resolution of 0.2 meters. From 500 kilometers away, they can capture the outline of a U.S. B-2 stealth bomber. Not just the shape—but the tail number painted on its body. Not just the plane—but the exact tilt of a C-130’s spinning propellers parked on the tarmac.
And they don’t just see. They also transmit. A full-length, high-definition film the size of Avatar 2—delivered to Earth in a single second. That’s the power of China’s indigenous satellite-to-ground laser communication system, transmitting at 10Gbps. It bypasses electromagnetic interference, penetrates even 50 meters of seawater, and delivers real-time commands to submarines lurking below the ocean's surface.
Now imagine this: A Dongfeng missile takes flight. The satellite captures the exhaust plume and trajectory in real time. In that very moment, it transmits the data down to a ground control unit. The command center adjusts its flight path mid-course. Target locked. Kill order confirmed. From discovery to destruction, it all happens in one fluid loop—faster than the enemy can even react.
This isn’t theory. It’s already happening.
In 2023, the Jilin-1 satellites tracked and filmed the loading of B-52 strategic bombers on the U.S. airbase in Guam. Not once—but fourteen times. Every payload. Every switch. Each type of munition. Captured frame by frame. The footage didn’t just circulate inside Chinese command centers—it was streamed to the world during a live U.S.-Japan military exercise in the South China Sea. The Pentagon panicked and issued a late-night press release insisting they had not entered Chinese territorial waters. But China had already entered theirs—visually, digitally, tactically.
And still, this was just Level One: watching.
2. Kinetic Anti-Satellite Strikes: Silent but Lethal
Level Two? Hitting.
Back in 2007, China stunned the world by obliterating one of its own weather satellites—Fengyun-1C—using a direct kinetic anti-satellite strike. It wasn’t a blast. It was a high-speed body collision, turning a multi-million dollar satellite into a cloud of orbital debris. That was a warning. Today, it’s a guarantee.
By 2027, China’s third-generation kinetic anti-satellite system—capable of reaching geostationary orbit at 36,000 kilometers—was fully operational. This range includes America’s most precious military satellites: the GPS constellation. A single hit would shatter decades of infrastructure and leave no trace. No explosion. No shrapnel. Just silence. The satellite fails, seemingly on its own. The U.S. military now refers to this system as a "space assassin”—a kill system that leaves no fingerprint.
And it gets worse. Unlike early designs, China’s latest models use zero-debris “covert kill” technology. It doesn’t blow you up—it just turns off your light. A malfunction, they’ll say. But there’s no coming back. It’s warfare by silent unobtrusive deletion, typically civilized warfare with Chinese characteristics.
Still, satellites alone don’t win wars.
You need eyes on the sea.
That’s where the 815A comes in.
3. The Ghost Ship: 815A and the Sea-Based Information War
In the recent 12 day war between Israel and Iran, China's reconnaissance ship 815A quietly entered the Persian Gulf. Some people on X say it's a shame that the US would laissez faire and do nothing about it. Please know 815A is an old friend of the US aircraft carrier stike group in the South China see and near China's coast. It has been playing hide and seek with the US marines and the US could do nothing about it.
June 2024. The U.S., Japan, Australia, and the Philippines stage a grand Pacific war drill. The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier takes point. F-35s scream off its deck. Aegis destroyers form a lethal web around it. It’s muscle-flexing with a mission: show the Asia-Pacific who's boss.
Days later, satellite images reveal an uninvited guest shadowing the formation from less than 50 nautical miles away—a sleek silhouette tucked just outside the fleet’s blind spot. Zoom in: it’s the 815A. China’s electronic reconnaissance ship. Not just observing—but fully embedded in the battle environment.
Here’s the chilling part: not a single radar saw it coming.
The U.S. Navy was operating blind. Its radar screens flickered into static. Its comms scrambled. And by the time the public saw the photo, the warships’ crews were sweating. A vessel that size—not seen. Not tracked. Not intercepted. Not asked to leave. It's there observing the military exercise ostensibly as an uninvited invisible guest.
There’s only one explanation: the 815A’s electronic warfare suite is simply overpowering.
It doesn’t just collect signals. It distorts them.
Its phased array radars, the H/LGQ-36 system, work across multiple frequency bands—from shortwave to ultra-high frequency. Its over-the-horizon radar can monitor targets up to 8000 kilometers away—Guam deployments included. Its infrared-optical sensors and quantum communication nodes can receive, jam, and even mimic enemy systems in real time.
But most terrifying? It doesn’t just watch the enemy—it enters their minds.
In 2017, an 815A loitered off Alaska during a U.S. missile interception test. It didn’t just record. It interfered. The U.S. Department of Defense later acknowledged: “It got too close, and we couldn’t stop it.”
Years later, during a classified U.S. exercise, an F-35 vanished from radar. Its comms dropped. Its onboard navigation drifted off-course. Later analysis pointed to a 815A unit jamming and spoofing the signal chain—cutting the F-35 off from its command link and radar guidance. For all its stealth, it became a $100 million brick flying blind.
And then came the punchline.
In another test, a U.S. destroyer’s internal comms channel began broadcasting… Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf (喜羊羊与灰太狼), a Chinese children’s cartoon. It wasn’t a glitch. It was a message: you’re not just being watched—you’re being hijacked. Your war capabilities are being nullified.
That’s what makes the 815A more than a spy ship. It’s a mobile information warfare factory.
It doesn’t need guns or missiles. Its weapon is control. Control over signals. Over your strike capability. Over what you see, hear, and believe.
Most still think of the 815A as just a pair of big listening ears. They couldn’t be more wrong.
It’s a predator. It wins wars by nullifying the adversaries’ strike capability. If the adversary can't “see”, it can't strike.
And it doesn’t act alone.
4. Nine Stars Network: A Floating Constellation of Surveillance
China has now deployed a full fleet of nine 815A-class ships, nicknamed the “Nine Stars.” Each is named after a celestial body—Neptune, Sirius, Uranus, Sun Star—and together they patrol the East China Sea, South China Sea, Malacca Strait, and even the frigid waters near Alaska.
Each vessel carries the same electronic warfare suite, but the newest iterations are even harder to trace: stealthier radar profiles with prismatic tail-masts, only two spherical domes instead of four, upgraded AI signal analyzers. These ships don’t just listen—they think. They decode. They hijack. And they act as forward nodes in a vast kill chain.
Here’s how it works:
The 815A captures a signal. In real time, it sends it back to China’s high-res satellites via quantum-secure uplinks. From there, coordinates flow to land-based missile systems, sea-based platforms, and air-launched strike drones. In warzones like the South China Sea or the Taiwan Strait, this real-time information feed becomes a second pair of eyes—one second faster than the opponent. And in modern combat, that second is all that matters.
It’s not speculation. In early 2025, during a U.S. wargame in the Philippine Sea, an 815A entered the area. Then, one by one, American systems began to fail. The F-35s lost their guidance. Aegis radar phased in and out. Even the Nimitz carrier began experiencing interference across its command and control channels. The U.S. called off the drill. The reason? “Loss of information control.”
If the U.S. military is forced to interrupt a major drill because of electronic interference, it reveals a brutal truth: it cannot fight a war against China under contested electromagnetic conditions.
The Pentagon knows this. It doesn't say it out loud—but it knows.
American missiles can’t fire if their targeting systems are blinded. Jets can’t coordinate if data links are jammed. Warships become floating metal if radar and comms are spoofed or silenced. And in a real conflict—not a drill—China won’t just jam; it will hijack and redirect the missiles.
This isn’t a hypothetical. It’s the quiet nightmare behind every U.S. Pacific war game that ends early or gets “delayed due to weather.”
And here’s the lesson: China doesn’t need to fight harder. It just needs to fight smarter—by making sure you never get to fight at all. That's the invisible quiet warfare which has been going on on China's doorstep which MSM never tells you.
5. Electromagnetic Fog and Fleet Concealment
In the world of modern warfare, you don’t need to outrun your enemy—you just need to vanish before they even know you’re there.
And that’s exactly what China’s 815A did in mid-2025.
As U.S. reconnaissance satellites scoured the region for signs of China's Liaoning aircraft carrier, nothing showed. Not on infrared. Not on radar. For six days, the carrier group seemed to vanish from Earth’s surface. Pentagon analysts concluded it must still be docked in port.
Then—shock.
Six days later, the Liaoning reappeared. Not in harbor. But 30 kilometers southwest of Guam. Practically breathing on America’s forward base.
The explanation?
Electromagnetic fog. Engineered and projected by the 815A.
By spoofing signals, mimicking decoy radar sources, and injecting false echoes into the spectrum, the 815A had cloaked the entire strike group in a field of signal distortion. Satellite systems that were “seeing” the Chinese fleet were actually looking at a ghost—a mirage made of scrambled waves. By the time the truth became clear, the fleet was already at striking range, and the Americans had no time left to respond.
This wasn’t the kind of stealth that the Americans know about. It was synthetic invisibility.
And the 815A wasn’t just hiding ships—it was guiding missiles.
6. Real-Time Strike Guidance and Target Handoff
Tucked beneath the domes of the 815A is a quantum communication module. When activated, it can establish real-time uplinks with China’s high-resolution orbital satellites—forming a seamless relay between sea, sky, and space.
It doesn’t just report what it sees. It feeds coordinates directly to land-based missile forces, to J-20 stealth fighters, to unmanned aerial strike drones, to anti-ship ballistic missile systems like the DF-21D and DF-26B.
In this web, the 815A is the spearpoint. It doesn’t throw the punch. It tells the arm where to swing.
Nowhere is this more critical than in maritime warzones like the South China Sea or Taiwan Strait, where distances close rapidly and reaction time defines victory.
There, a delay of even half a second in targeting data can mean a missed shot—or a sunk fleet. And so, the 815A becomes China’s extra second. Its unfair advantage. Its invisible eye that sees, hears, and kills faster than any adversary can process.
7. A New Doctrine: Information Supremacy Over Firepower
Many still look at the 815A and see a curiosity. A radar vessel. A surveillance tool.
But that’s outdated thinking.
The 815A is a pillar of China’s evolving war doctrine—one that replaces brute force with information superiority, firepower with blindness, missiles with silence.
By now, China has built a regional web that includes:
- Jilin-1 satellite constellations with ultra-high-resolution optical capabilities
- AI-enhanced orbital constellations for pattern recognition and target classification
- Laser communication networks linking satellites to sea and shore in real-time
- Quantum encryption modules resistant to jamming or interception
- Electronic warfare ships like the 815A capable of hijacking, spoofing, and cloaking in real time
All of it knits together into what military analysts now call an integrated kill web—a fully digitized, multi-domain battle mesh. From low Earth orbit to deep sea trench, from missiles in Gansu to carriers off Hainan, China’s system is no longer reactive. It’s anticipatory.
The U.S. may still lead in sheer satellite numbers—over 50 military satellites, dozens of dedicated comms and surveillance birds—but China is building something else: an intelligent warfighting nervous system. Not just a big eye—but a big brain. A system that doesn’t just see the enemy—it blinds him, fools him, and strikes him before he knows he’s been hit.
8. Future Warfare: Seamless Integration of AI, Satellites, and Signal Control
This is not just about putting more satellites in orbit or launching bigger ships. What China is building is a multi-dimensional information suppression architecture—a new form of warfare in which perception itself is the battlefield.
Its key characteristics:
- Low-cost, high-volume deployment: systems like Jilin-1 are modular and scalable. Instead of billion-dollar orbital platforms, China focuses on dozens—soon hundreds—of smaller, AI-linked “eyes” in the sky.
- AI-based autonomous processing: raw satellite data is now processed mid-transit. No time is lost in human analysis. Objects are identified, categorized, and assigned threat levels before they even reach human eyes.
- Quantum communications: used not just for secure military comms, but to maintain satellite-to-satellite links even during signal jamming or kinetic attack.
- Integrated swarming platforms: sea-based (815A), air-based (drones), and space-based (satellite constellations) components now work in concert. Signals move freely across domains.
- Electromagnetic deception and counter-intelligence: radar invisibility is no longer about avoiding detection—it’s about ensuring the enemy sees the wrong thing at the wrong time.
This network isn’t just for spotting targets.
It’s for denying battlespace access, severing command links, and scrambling the brains of entire fleets. It forces the enemy to fight blind. Or not fight at all.
9. China’s Strategic Confidence: Owning the Signal, Controlling the Fight
As the U.S. Navy edges closer to the South China Sea, it doesn't just enter contested waters—it sails into digital transparency.
Every radar ping, every encrypted signal, every sonar pulse becomes a beacon.
It enters an electromagnetic spider web, woven by China's space-based sensors, quantum-secure networks, and land-sea-air EW platforms. There's no chance for the US Navy to start a war not to say win a war.
For every mile closer to China’s coastline, U.S. forces face exponential loss of concealment. At the same time, China’s own strike networks grow more elusive—shielded by decoys, cloaks, and electromagnetic illusions.
It’s a war of mirrors.
And in that war, the winner isn’t the one with more missiles. It’s the one who can see through the fog while controlling what the enemy sees.
10. Conclusion: The Beginning of a New Kind of War
By 2025, the phrase circulating inside Chinese defense circles was this:
“You can’t see me. But I’ve already locked onto you. [Ensured Destruction]”
This isn’t just bravado. It's already a reality recognized by US military.
It’s confidence earned not by rhetoric, but by architecture—by a real-time, real-world kill web that connects satellites in orbit to missile brigades on land, to stealth drones in air, to ghost ships at sea.
And at the tip of that spear—still gliding quietly off your coast—is the 815A.
As China’s third aircraft carrier enters full service—equipped with electromagnetic catapults and integrated into an AI-guided multi-domain force—the transformation is complete.
No longer is war defined by who can build the biggest carrier or fire the longest missile.
It will be defined by who owns the spectrum.
Who controls the signal.
Who sees first, and strikes faster.
This is not the end of war.
It’s the beginning of a new kind.
And this time, China is writing the doctrine.
11. China has already won the military war against the US. It's a quiet consensus in Washington DC and Beijing but both keep mum about it. MSM isn't telling ya. Uncle Sam isn't telling ya. Beijing isn't telling ya. But I'm telling ya.
The one country that doesn’t want the U.S. empire to collapse instantly is China itself. Why? Because such a collapse would be catastrophic. China’s economy is heavily dependent on global trade, and the United States, Europe, and other markets form the backbone of its export ecosystem. A sudden implosion of the U.S. empire would unravel the global financial and economic system, triggering a domino effect of collapsing economies.
The U.S. dollar, artificially propped up by U.S. military supremacy, would lose its status as the global reserve currency. Global investors currently view dollar-denominated assets as safe because of America's overwhelming military capacity to enforce order—or selective chaos. Destroy that confidence, and the dollar falls with it. If the USD is gone, the global trade is gone with it.
But it gets worse. Without the U.S. acting as a global sheriff, many nations will shed their shackles imposed by the USA and will act with impunity rearing their ugly heads of former empire ambitions.
There won’t just be one Israel. There will be many.
Nuclear proliferation will be uncontrollable. Genocidwars will erupt across regions.
China, for all its growing power, is not yet in a position to control that kind of global chaos. The disappearance of the US empire will create a dangerous vacuum.
Geopolitics has no morality. It’s not about good versus evil. It’s about balance and long term strategy for the greater good for the greater number of people. Just as the collapse of the Soviet Union created headaches for the United States, the collapse of America would create a dangerous geopolitical imbalance. That’s why the Cold War never truly ended—it was structurally necessary. The U.S. needs an enemy to function. Its military-industrial machine cannot stand alone without that.
So in this looming multipolar world, danger is everywhere. Multipolar doesn't mean good and righteousness. It probably means more chaos and instability.
If there is one country that wants the U.S. to stay alive—it’s China. The decline of the US empire is inevitable. But for the greater good of the humanity, hopefully it will be a slow decline spanning across a decade, a managed erosion of U.S. hegemony. Not a crash. Not a hard landing.
A managed erosion of hegemony—before something better takes its place. All regime changes require precaution especially one involving the US.
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Very good. But I think it is more complicated than that BECAUSE Communism is a Petty Tyrant. A deception.
All deceptions test discernment.
The decider is the health of the planet's ecosystems all working together and all demanding a new balance and not the power of brutal technology faster and better imposing itself on others.
And China is voracious like all STS is. It knows no limits.
When one is unaware of limitations ...one is the loser . This has always been true.
Therefore there is no winning side but a cataclysmic reset which is already unavoidable because
ours and the world's imbalance is too profound.
It can only be restored by a new equilibrium and Communism cannot provide it.
Communism is the creation and tool of top money lending predator oligarchs and masters of coercion who look into your eyes and demand your servility which aligns with Non- Being .
All deceptions test discernment.
The decider is the health of the planet's ecosystems all working together and all demanding a new balance and not the power of brutal technology faster and better imposing itself on others.
And China is voracious like all STS is. It knows no limits.
When one is unaware of limitations ...one is the loser . This has always been true.
Therefore there is no winning side but a cataclysmic reset which is already unavoidable because
ours and the world's imbalance is too profound.
It can only be restored by a new equilibrium and Communism cannot provide it.
Communism is the creation and tool of top money lending predator oligarchs and masters of coercion who look into your eyes and demand your servility which aligns with Non- Being .
Some days ago, I came across an interesting interview (the one below) and then started exploring the interviewee's YT channel. The person in question is Xueqin Jiang, a Chinese-Canadian Professor of history. His family emigrated to Canada when he was 3 y.o. so he is a Westerner (his words), but I think he's more than that. From what I understand, he's developed his own model of history as a tool to understand the present and predict the future. He says he's still testing it and updates when needed to make it more accurate so it is work in progress. Apparently so far it worked well enough to make him known as some kind of a "modern prophet" precisely because many (although not all) of his predictions came true.
I'm still working on getting to know him better, watching his "Civilization" series interchangeably with his lectures on more specific and current topics. He may have a different view on some things here and there but so far I find his way of looking at history - and the present as its continuation, if not repetition - spot on and fascinating. He has a gift of seeing the defining characteristics of civilizations, conflicts, and cultures, presenting them in a nutshell, while the same time avoiding simplifications and being sensitive to nuances. Or so I think.
The interview, recorded on July 22, 2025:
Description and timestamps:
Dubbed 'China's Nostradamus' by the media, Xueqin Jiang, Host of Predictive History on YouTube, explains his methodology using historical analogies and game theory to forecast Trump's election win, inevitable US ground involvement in an escalating Iran conflict that could trigger a global war drawing in East Asia, Russia, and NATO via Ukraine, and an expected rapprochement in US-China relations.
0:00 - Intro.
1:50 - Trump’s win prediction
4:28 - What is ‘Predictive History’?
5:39 - Midterm elections forecast
7:00 - Military intervention in Iran
10:06 - Why did analysts get Iran wrong?
12:32 - ‘Iran Trap’
14:47 - How likely is a ground invasion of Iraq?
17:09 - Geopolitical outlook
19:35 - Russian tariffs and what’s next
22:16 - China/US relations
Jiang's YT channel: Predictive History
Going to share his another video in Russia related thread as soon as I have all I need for the post.
I'm still working on getting to know him better, watching his "Civilization" series interchangeably with his lectures on more specific and current topics. He may have a different view on some things here and there but so far I find his way of looking at history - and the present as its continuation, if not repetition - spot on and fascinating. He has a gift of seeing the defining characteristics of civilizations, conflicts, and cultures, presenting them in a nutshell, while the same time avoiding simplifications and being sensitive to nuances. Or so I think.
The interview, recorded on July 22, 2025:
Description and timestamps:
Dubbed 'China's Nostradamus' by the media, Xueqin Jiang, Host of Predictive History on YouTube, explains his methodology using historical analogies and game theory to forecast Trump's election win, inevitable US ground involvement in an escalating Iran conflict that could trigger a global war drawing in East Asia, Russia, and NATO via Ukraine, and an expected rapprochement in US-China relations.
0:00 - Intro.
1:50 - Trump’s win prediction
4:28 - What is ‘Predictive History’?
5:39 - Midterm elections forecast
7:00 - Military intervention in Iran
10:06 - Why did analysts get Iran wrong?
12:32 - ‘Iran Trap’
14:47 - How likely is a ground invasion of Iraq?
17:09 - Geopolitical outlook
19:35 - Russian tariffs and what’s next
22:16 - China/US relations
Jiang's YT channel: Predictive History
Going to share his another video in Russia related thread as soon as I have all I need for the post.
Another good one, fresh, posted within last 24 hours:
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